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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 01 2011 02:42 GMT
#186
On February 01 2011 11:41 GMarshal wrote:
A passing thought, the pictures could be a kind of puzzle with each picture standing for a word and then 4 out of the 5 words making a relevant phrase, I've been trying some permutations but haven't come up with anything yet.



Yeah I'm trying the same thing. The other thought is that they simply relate to 4 clues from the person.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 01 2011 16:51 GMT
#198
On February 01 2011 23:30 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
3. Apocalypse now -> The Motion Picture Soundtrack (song on OST of Apocalypse Now, the movie) was made by Radiohead, and guess who is the lead singer for Radiohead? Thom Yorke.


I can't seem to find this anywhere. I mean, I can find the song and I know when you google it+radiohead you get a video of the sound+AN but I can't seem to find the track listed on any of the OST



It seems it's reverse. Radiohead has a song named "Motion Picture Soundtrack", however that youtube video is just a homemade video and not the official video. I couldn't find the original.

Here's the album though. It was released in 2000. Highly unlikely it was used in a movie that existed 20 years before the album.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kid_A


Another thing to note is that the word "Lego" means "play well" in danish
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Lego

I'm still stuck on these clues :p
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 01 2011 16:54 GMT
#199
My guess at the method of how he came up with the clues is something like

"W X Y Z" is a sentence about a very specific character.

google W "find a semi related photo
google X "find a semi related photo
google Y "find a semi related photo
google Z "find a semi related photo"
google something else and add it to confuse people.


So our goal should be to find the keywords for each photo and make a sentence or statement out of it.

This is how I'm going to approach it unless someone finds something better.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 01 2011 17:26 GMT
#200
This is freaking hard. This is the best I've come up with so far. I've spent like 2 hours on this thing.

Analysis of Raiden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiden_(Mortal_Kombat)#In_other_media

Clue #1
Apocalypse Now note saying "drop the bomb". This makes me think of the word "armageddon" which is the title of one of the mortal kombat games. Also someone mentioned his abilities that sound like an explosion.

Clue #2
Legos. Lego means "play well" in danish. Mortal Kombat is a game that you play. Both are things you play with.

Clue #3
Snow. Nothing yet.

Clue #4
Magic. "Raiden commands many supernatural abilities" directly from the wikipedia link

Clue #5
Music. Nothing yet.


So that is only 3 clues out of 5, but it's the best I've got. I found various references to other people (music to thom yorke, etc), but so far this is the only one I found with more than 1 possible reference.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 01 2011 17:44 GMT
#203
Analysis of CubEdIn

Hi everyone.

First of all, the Raiden reference. I don't see how it connects to the body disappearances. If you mean the ability to teleport, Raiden has the ability to teleport himself, not other things (at least in the games and movies, but I guess it can be interpreted).

Second of all, I got Kenpachi covered, I watched bleach and I liked the character. A few main traits are:
- loves battle, lives for it, but is fair, would not kill people with arrows or a wall
- uses his sword and that's about it
- is really fast and really really powerful, especially when he removes his eye-patch
- has a skewed view on honor, I can't really explain this, but basically he'll follow "honor" rules, but doesn't respect many things in general.
Also, if he would be killing something, there would be A LOT of blood around.

I did a quick look at the profiles and Gaara seems to be the strongest clue (with the crushing and sand and all), but I didn't have time to carefully analyze all of them yet.

Will be back in the evening for more hunting.


Suggesting gaara is the strongest clue, but then saying he doesn't have time to analyze yet.



Crap.

Sorry for missing the vote. I've been working on my dissertation paper all night. I forgot to check this as well.
I'm really sorry Elesbee.


Didn't do any more analysis or contribute and missed the lynching vote.


you're right. I'm bad at weekends. And this time i had a horrible monday as well. I'll try and pick up the pace tomorrow.


Still inactive

On February 01 2011 19:30 CubEdIn wrote:
Actually it's god of thunder, so that one is more than a bit of a stretch, but I agree the other two can point to me, somewhat.

Some relation to Gaara:
"he was rejected by his peers and fellow villagers for being the host of a tailed beast" - legos
"Gaara's development from this state into a highly withdrawn, sadistic character" - exterminate them all
Also, the snow trails could represent his lonely path to finding adversaries worthy of battling.

But ignore that, let's get to the good part.
Dr.H.

1. Music -> Thom Yorke - check
2. Legos -> Thom Yorke is in a band, might imply that
3. Apocalypse now -> The Motion Picture Soundtrack (song on OST of Apocalypse Now, the movie) was made by Radiohead, and guess who is the lead singer for Radiohead? Thom Yorke.
4. Hocus Pocus / Cards -> Radiohead has a song called "House of Cards"

Need I find more?


Some suspicion is put out and he is the first to respond (so much for being inactive). Also reraises suspecion on gaara for no apparent reason other than to divert attention away from himself. Then immediately finds a few random references (even an obscure one based on a homemade youtube video) and suggests he doesn't need to find more evidence.

erm...
P.S.:
##Vote DoctorHelvetica


7 minutes later votes for DrH.

On February 01 2011 23:42 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 23:30 chaoser wrote:
3. Apocalypse now -> The Motion Picture Soundtrack (song on OST of Apocalypse Now, the movie) was made by Radiohead, and guess who is the lead singer for Radiohead? Thom Yorke.


I can't seem to find this anywhere. I mean, I can find the song and I know when you google it+radiohead you get a video of the sound+AN but I can't seem to find the track listed on any of the OST


Yeah, you're right, it doesn't seem to be in the official OST.
I just saw the video posted on youtube, vimeo, and other sites.

But it still can't be dismissed as a clue just because it's not on the OST, just not that strong of a clue. Which is what you'd expect from LSB in the first place.


Admits he just randomly found the video (which is only possible if you search for the words "radiohead apocolypse now") then suggests that LSB made the clues very obscure, but from the previous day, it seems once you find the overall reference or theme, the clues just roll together quickly.


Analysis, plus 3 clues in my previous post.

CubEdIn is mafia


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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 01 2011 17:48 GMT
#204
On February 02 2011 02:42 CubEdIn wrote:
P.S.:
Q from Star Treck also fits all your findings:
#1. He could end all life, give life, etc. => He could easily cause apocalypse
#2. Legos! He was playing with Picard, changing the flow of time, etc.
#3. Magic... well... supernatural abilities, like you said.

Is anyone seriously buying this? Dr.H is clearly tied due to Music + Apocalypse now. There's no way that both of them are wrong.
Show me a better connection than Apocalypse Now / Radiohead video. How the hell does "Apocalypse sounds like Armageddon which is part of the tile of a MK movie" fit better than googling: Apocalypse Now Radiohead -> BAM.



I think the fact that it's from apocalypse now is actually irrelevant. The note suggests dropping the bomb and killing everyone. From the wikipedia "In Raiden's ending, he becomes extremely powerful after defeating Blaze. To make sure no other realm will possibly threaten Earthrealm again, he destroys them all."
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 01 2011 17:55 GMT
#206
On February 02 2011 02:51 CubEdIn wrote:
Ok. Fine. Since you're so sure, we'll lynch me first. Then, when I flip green, town lynches you and DrH. Deal?


Eh i'm not 100% sure about anything yet which is why I haven't voted.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 01 2011 21:45 GMT
#230
We still have 30 hours until we have to decide who we lynch. If anyone can find more clues please do so. We lost our best clue analyzer so far so someone needs to step up (including myself). If we can't find better clues I would vote for cubed not only because the clues seem to fit him the most, but because he is acting very awkwardly even if he is an aggressive townie. Something makes me think it's someone else though.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 01 2011 22:35 GMT
#240
Dang I think we are looking at these clues all wrong. Something else has got to give. Something tells me that there is a high likelihood that we are going to accidentally lynch green simply because the clues are getting us nowhere.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 01 2011 22:53 GMT
#251
Alright, well I gotta do some work and I think there's been enough said for today. I am going to vote now just in case I get distracted by the other mafia game and the conversation is going nowhere right now. If anyone finds any other possible clues I will help research into them more, just send me a pm.

##Vote: CubEdIn
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 02 2011 17:25 GMT
#261
Only 9 hours to go, where is all of the analysis guys? Just because we lost mr wiggles doesn't mean we can't look at clues ourselves. We gotta have something more to go on :/

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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#284
My guess is that chaoser, DrH and kenpachi are all green. We did well voting based on clues day 1, no reason to vote based on thread analysis just yet. If cubedin ends up green, then we should start examining other options. I suspect that cubedin will turn up red though.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 02 2011 22:23 GMT
#300
On February 03 2011 06:46 chaoser wrote:
Oops, I mean, right now we're at
7 to 2

if Cube flips green
we'll be 5 to 2

if I get lynched
we'll be at 3 to 2 (assuming I'm green)

I hope at THIS point, you guys lynch Kenpachi/Dr. H if both cubedin and I flip green.



So basically we gets 2 mess ups total. Also we will get a ton of information based on who gets killed at night. Also we have veterans (not sure how many). As long as we don't lynch veterans we will get 1 extra chance to find a red. Cubed hasn't claimed vet so I think he is the safest vote we can go with based on clues. If it doesn't work out and we can't find definitive clues tomorrow, then we should go with analysis.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 03 2011 05:00 GMT
#327
Do you think you could update the OP to list those who are alive and dead I accidently spent like 10 minutes analyzing catch-22 :p
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 03 2011 05:37 GMT
#328
Ok this is another attempt at identifying the person in the clues. These are a little better than the ones on cubed so here it goes.


Clue #1:
“Mistah Wiggles, He dead.” is a reference from Heart of Darkness


Clue #2
And at that moment, LSB had a terrible heart attack


Picture #1:
Apocolypse Now reference which is based on Heart of Darkness


Picture #2:
Two dead aliens. Possible dead of a heart attack


Nothing on the other the 3 pictures yet, but those could probably narrow it down.


In general there is a common theme which is the word heart.

I have found two people whom have the word heart in their wikipedia page and mean something specific

Pandain Ling Ling
Ling ling died of a heart attack.


Chaoser: Holden Caulfield
While the cause of death in "Catcher" is leukemia, here it is due to an unspecified heart condition.



I'm only putting these up in case I get killed tonight :p. I will be adding further clues as I find them. I think analyzing these people's posts would be good too. Pandain has barely contributed and it's possible pic #3 are bear tracks.

Any help would be much appreciated.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 04 2011 04:20 GMT
#360
On February 04 2011 12:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Doesn't everyone have to send a message? If not then I propose

Myself: AB
Node: CD
Darmousseh: E



This sounds good to me if not every has to give a message. If everyone does have to give a message then I'm looking at other methods, but the best plan i can come up with has a 60% chance of success by default and a 75% chance of success if node and DrH are both townies. We can also separate people whom we suspect are colluding together to increase the odds even more.

That plan is
Myself ABC
Node D
DrH E

Randomly assign D to 2 others and E to the other 2.

The premuation to figure out the percentages is below.

+ Show Spoiler +

M is for Mafia, T is for townie
M D D D D D D D D D D E E E E E E E E E E
M D D D D E E E E E E D D D D D D E E E E
T D E E E D D D E E E D D D E E E D D D E
T E D E E D E E D D E D E E D D E D D E D
T E E D E E D E D E D E D E D E D D E D D
T E E E D E E D E D D E E D E D D E D D D

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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 04 2011 04:28 GMT
#361
Darmousseh's perfect plan

Actually I came up with a better plan

Myself ABC
Node CD
Everyone else
CE

A good (1 - 0)
B good (1 - 0)
C good (5 - 2)
D good (1 - 0)
E good (3 - 2)
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 04 2011 04:36 GMT
#362
If both of us are townies then we get the name of a mafia and lynch.

If node is by chance mafia, then D will be corrupt which will lead to a townie. We lynch that person and find hes townie and then lynch node next day.

If i'm mafia (which i'm not, but for the purpose of the plan) then the clues will be corrupt and we end up lynching the townie and node and finally myself.

If both of us are mafia then town wins! after lynching the townie on the first night.

In all 3 cases we discover at least 1 mafia and lose at most 2 townies (if i'm lying).

I think this is definitely the best plan since we get 100% guaranteed information.

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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 04 2011 04:43 GMT
#365
On February 04 2011 13:40 LSB wrote:
Because there exists a solution that would result in instant town win, I will add in a rule.

"In order for Bloodycobbler to be able to accept a clue, there must be at least 3 messengers sending in a message" (Note the messages can be corrupted/uncorrupted. So 2 townies, and 1 mafia sending a message would be fine)



Dangit LSB I spent like 15 minutes figuring out the perfect plan lol.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 04 2011 04:44 GMT
#369
On February 04 2011 13:43 LSB wrote:
Ignore that I figured out a way to counter it



uh oh, now I have to think of how it could be possibly countered.
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