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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 16 2011 13:07 GMT
#710
First off, a DT (darmousseh) claims to me without realizing it was illegal. He gets modkilled.

Now a medic just claimed to me.....


Fuck

My

Life
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 16 2011 13:13 GMT
#712
Oh, and I think Reenk is not a pro-town role. Not necessarily mafia, but I'd guess him and kita were a separate faction.

Logic behind this: Why would a townie kill Mr.Wiggles? I don't think he has done anything particularly scummy so far, and he's one of the few people who are active/contributing.

One exception: The ability is a one off that kills the person that killed kita. Still, I find this unlikely.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 16 2011 13:16 GMT
#713
On February 16 2011 22:10 Believer wrote:
Have you notified pever about this?

Or is it someone who already have been WoG'ed?


Yah I told pever.

I probably should have kept this out of the thread but I'm just fucking frustrated right now.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 16 2011 13:16 GMT
#714
EBWOP: Sorry for cursing
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 16 2011 18:00 GMT
#725
On February 17 2011 02:55 GMarshal wrote:
ok, now that darmousseh name has been revealed I have excellent news, from my pm I know that the player with the name atheotes is almost certainly mafia.


So you think darmousseh was mafia? Can you elaborate more?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 16 2011 18:27 GMT
#728
Original Message From darmousseh:
hey, so far you seem to be the most townlike person. Without flipping this game it makes it a lot harder to trust anyone. I came to you because I know you are GeneralHankerchief and probably have a really awesome ability. I can check the name of any player in the game once per night. I asked for mr wiggles night 1. Mr. Wiggles is Seamus Fermanagh (Seamus for short) and asked for your name night 2.

I really hope you are town and so far you seem to be doing a good job of analyzing. I'm trying to not stand out too much since I have a pretty good ability for town.

If you have any suggestions for whom I should name check next I will ask.


Wiggles has been confirmed as Seamus, and I know I'm GeneralHankerchief. In addition no one has counterclaimed me. That leads me to believe he was legit. It just seems odd that mafia would get a DT, but maybe I'm reading too much into it.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 16 2011 18:47 GMT
#734
deconduo GenHank
Coagulation Tosalnu
GMarshal Beskar
aidnai Kage
Beefy187 Chaotix

SiNiquity
JBright
gryffindor
Believer
Insanious
thefluffyone93
chaoser
ilovejonn

Unknown:
Reenk
Beefy (Japanese, friend of pevergreen, lynched when innocent and survives when mafia)
fluffy (spammy)
Sasaki Kojiro (Always suspicious. He votes for Csargo)
Romanic (analyzer)
Secura (Beskars friend)

Also beefy posted this:

atheotes (always mafia. Always)
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 16 2011 18:51 GMT
#736
EBWOP:
Sasaki Kojiro (Always suspicious. He votes for Csargo)


Sasaki is probably thefluffyone. He voted for Misder(Csargo) first thing both days.

Possibly a mafia candidate too?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 16 2011 18:54 GMT
#737
Also @Reenk Roink

If you are town, please come forward and explain why you killed Mr. Wiggles. You can PM me if you don't want to claim in the open. If you don't I'm going to continue with my assumption that you are not on town's side.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 17 2011 01:06 GMT
#768
On February 17 2011 10:03 beefy187 wrote:
Renata is a very nice lady. And I think its a female name

I see theres a lot of new developments.
atheotes being mafia all the time is true. But for us Org players, that will make it too easy if atheotes is really mafia.



Thats just WIFOM though....
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 17 2011 19:16 GMT
#817
@bumatlarge

On February 17 2011 22:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Look at the kill list. Unless someone from totalwar did a ridiculous amount of research, the kills are such an obvious pattern.

That leaves:
deconduo
Insanious
chaoser
GMarshal
ilovejonn

Of those who would do this, deonduo and chaoser fit the bill pretty well. I've been mafia with both of them, and they are prone to get rid of experienced players they know first. Everyone on the kill list are experienced players they know. Deconduo can take a bit of a leadership role, and chaoser not so much. It is possible for it to be the other TLers, but then they put some work into changing up their style and deserve to win.

It has deconduo written all over it. I'm not really going to argue it too much, as I don't feel too much of a drive to help town anymore, but I'd feel guilty if I didn't do anything since I can talk.

I'd also be surprised if anyone left actually did any analysis or penalty guessing. Look at night kills too, please. You have to figure out how much KP mafia have. I'm guessing they are at 1 grunt 1 GF, and a third party might have KP. I bet decon and chaoser are on different sides.


First of all, thank you for helping out, even if it is a half assed effort. However, you are wrong. As scum I don't go for the experienced players, I go for the middle of the road guys. I want to take out better than average players with little/no risk of the kill being blocked by a medic. You can look over all my games as mafia to see this is the case. I would never risk going after Ace/Node etc. early on as they are too likely to be protected.

Secondly, coag posted this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186653&currentpage=11#202

No research needed by anyone. In fact I find it much more likely that mafia would be either new or used to a different style of play to risk targeting veteran TL players. Especially on night 2 when I specifically called for medics to protect them:

On February 13 2011 23:13 deconduo wrote:
Medics should be looking at veteran players as they are being targetted.


As such, I think theres a good chance Beefy and fluffy are both mafia. For today, I think that thefluffyone93 would be a decent lynch. He hasn't contributed much, (though there's plenty of people alive that are the same) but we also have the slip with the role PM.

In addition, look at these posts by Beefy:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 14 2011 22:47 beefy187 wrote:
Well losing Project Psycho (Kommodus) was a big blow.
He probably had a investigation ability as Kommodus had a nickname "Holmes" on the Org.

We're already down to 19 so I'll share my thoughts so far.
iirc we are using the God Father system, or something very close to it.
Which means the host picks one God Father who chooses two grunts.

Three men killed so far has all been teamliquid players. As mafias are more likely to kill people who they are comfortable killing, I think the mafias are teamliquid players as well. If I were God Father, I would like to use two men I can definitely count on so I would'nt use any outsiders. So the mafia can't be me or fluffy.

If the mafias are in this to win, they would've hired vets. On the Org, controlling the discussion is a double edged sword, as the town may call for your head if you make the wrong call, but on this place you lot seem to go after those who doesn't contribute. I'll be looking at people who constantly posts and discusses, but does nothing controversial.


On February 17 2011 23:15 beefy187 wrote:
Vote: Gryffindor
Regardless of his alignment, he must die.

I wouldn't cross off the Org players just from the kill pattern. Mafia can have a Quick topic where all the team members can discuss stuff. But I believe me and Fluffy is innocent because who ever was chosen GF wouldn't choose a outsider

Same goes for the style of writing.





He is very adamant that the mafia must be TL players and he and fluffy are definitely innocent. He has been contributing somewhat by giving information on personalities, but that could just be because he knows personalities and alignment don't have any connection? Or he could be holding back anything relatively important to give the impression that he is helping. Also look at this: 'If I were God Father, I would like to use two men I can definitely count on so I would'nt use any outsiders.' Would make sense that one of them would be very likely to pick the other.


Next:

Insanious
gryffindor
SiNiquity

These are the only unknown names right now. One of these is Reenk Roink, killed Mr. Wiggles and I'm pretty certain is anti-town. Note that both kita and Mr. Wiggles were killed during the day, and both deaths are connected. There is definitely something going on here but I'm not too sure what. I would like all three to nameclaim ASAP.


Final thoughts:

2 KP last night so either:

No mafia dead, unknown KP not used/dead or 1KP saved/blocked
1 Grunt dead + 1 unknown KP
2 Grunts dead, unknown KP not used/dead or 1KP saved/blocked



We know there is at least one unknown KP, but not the conditions on it. It is possible that on night one or last night someone was medic saved or took a hit as a veteran. If so, I would ask you to come forward so we can better understand the situation we are in.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 17 2011 19:46 GMT
#820
On February 18 2011 04:43 darmousseh wrote:
How has gryffindor not been lynched yet?


Do you not think that fluffy is a better lynch right now?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 17 2011 19:56 GMT
#821
Ok, kill style analysis:

node ace coag: Killed walking the street at night
why aidnai: Killed while using laptop
kitaman: Killed while using laptop, daykill
bum brownbear: Killed in their room, food connection
wiggles: camel, twilight kill

zerroth misder: camel, lynched
GGQ: cliff, lynched

deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 17 2011 20:47 GMT
#824
On February 18 2011 05:01 darmousseh wrote:
His posts are terrible. No analysis, short, only responds when he needs to. Either bad mafia or bad town.

This game is really confusing.


Yes, but he's not the only one. We have two people that posted Role PMs that have obvious errors. Believer did it on purpose, fuffy did not.

I do find gryffindor very scummy, and he would be #3 on my lynch list. Fluffy and Beefy are above him though.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 17 2011 22:29 GMT
#839
On February 18 2011 07:28 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 07:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Why
You are Andres.

You have a Beautiful Mind, but you want to share your gift with others! Once per day you must post a cryptic message completely void of meaning. You and pevergreen form the feared mentally unstable scum fighting duo!

You are Town
Victory condition: You win when you can convince someone of a secret communist plot buried in old newspaper clippings.



Wouldn't the part
Show nested quote +
Victory condition: You win when you can convince someone of a secret communist plot buried in old newspaper clippings.
be in red?


?

Why?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 17 2011 22:42 GMT
#844
On February 18 2011 07:38 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 06:14 Coagulation wrote:
deconduo
SiNiquity
JBright
gryffindor
Believer
Insanious
thefluffyone93
Beefy187
chaoser
GMarshal
ilovejonn
aidnai


deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 18 2011 08:28 GMT
#889
Vote:thefluffyone93

deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 18 2011 14:18 GMT
#898
On February 18 2011 23:08 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 23:04 Believer wrote:
On February 18 2011 22:59 bumatlarge wrote:
That you are a massive sheep regardless of your alignment. I even forgot to put you in the list. Vig deconduo or chaoser. Hear my townie voice and OBEY.


Now now, let's not be mean.

From my standpoint we should go after mafia long before we go after vigs. How 'bout them bananas?


What. And people wonder why dead people don't want to contribute anything this game. Believer made a similar mistake as fluffy, right? You mulled over believer's claim like fine wine. Fluffy makes his bad PM paste, and he's lynched fairly promptly. Hopefully Ace was mafia, or this game would already be over.

deconduo
believer

Do yourselves a favor and try to win, town.


-You haven't responded to my previous post, you just started throwing out accusations again.

-Believer told two people that he was going to fake claim, myself and coag. His PM had mistakes on purpose. In fact fluffy probably copied his one thinking it was legit.



Original Message From Believer:
The deed is done, I have released my fake claim. Please back me if needed.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From deconduo:
I am GeneralHankerchief. Please do not reveal this to anyone unless I say you can.

I hope your plan goes well. Good luck.

Original Message From Believer:
According to the rules of this game I can only reveal my name in PM, the rest has to be via the thread.

I am Beirut.

I am currently working the Org forums for a true townie character that would propably feature.

Seeing as how the inactivity has caused us harm in the past and we are down to only 19 players without any solid reads coming from any veteran player I am ready to throw myself under the wagon if I can spark a discussion with claims or out a mafioso.

For the sake of trust, what is your character name?

Original Message From deconduo:
Um, yes but a few things:

-Have you thought over this plan? Its probably not in our interest to have a DT or medic out in the open.

-LAL is a rule for a reason. I will back you up but only with the facts. I am not advocating this course of action unless you feel like giving me more details.

Original Message From Believer:
I'm thinking about faking a role claim to draw out a sure townie. Will you back me on this if they turn on me once I am revealed not to be that person?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 18 2011 15:27 GMT
#899
Depending on what happens tonight, I would guess beefy is the last mafia. Unless theres been a fake name claim, (could be likely) SiNiquity or gryffindor is our 3rd party (Reenk)
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 19 2011 13:22 GMT
#932
Ah well, it was bound to happen eventually.

Lynch insanious for the win, he is the 3rd party killer.
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