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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 01:08 GMT
#269
believer i close you sleepy so sleepy
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 01:09 GMT
#270
Ahh 4 Post in row nice see?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 03:11 GMT
#291
Analysis of ACE

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On February 11 2011 12:15 Ace wrote:
oh and just to make things easier

Vote: Coagulation. Lets not take any chances with silly players :D



ok so game hasnt even started yet. no day post or anything i havnt even posted a seriouse post regarding the game and boom hes out the gates trying to get someone lynched


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On February 11 2011 13:04 Ace wrote:
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On February 11 2011 13:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
Coag is actually very good at scum hunting. He played ton of games.

He just don't like to write long post to convince others.


that means he's not good at scum hunting


people try to reason with him about his pretty lame vote attempt how its a bad start etc. pretty much ignores anyones opinion on it as shown here.



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On February 11 2011 13:24 Ace wrote:
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On February 11 2011 13:21 Coagulation wrote:
i dont know where you get this i dont wanna convince people shit.


cool so you aren't actually trying to help us find Scum then are you?

twists my words to make them sound negative.
maybe it was a bad phrasing on my part but im pretty sure anyone who reads that with a town outlook would read "i dont know where you get this "i dont wanna convince people" shit.
Hounding me about lack of scumhunting.
lets see how much scumhunting he has contributed as the game goes on shall we.


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On February 11 2011 13:32 Ace wrote:
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On February 11 2011 13:29 GMarshal wrote:
On February 11 2011 13:26 Coagulation wrote:
At this point in the game has ANYONE made an attempt to find scum??


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We are a whole 15 minutes into the game, by now you should have a very solid idea of who the scum team is and have come up a list that we can use to hunt them, the fact that you have failed to produce such a list makes you most suspicious in my eyes.


word

Ok no scumhunting here lets move on


On February 11 2011 14:10 Ace wrote:
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On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
Rofl...I see Kenpachi and Pandain are not playing, so I hate to say it Coag but you're our only viable day 1 lynch.

I see that there are only 3 scum, and there's no abstaining. We're almost certainly gonna be lynching a lot of townies this game. KP will be our best indicator of lynch success it looks like, though if we kill the GF we may not realize immediately.

I'm most interested in getting to know the new guys pevergreen brought over, so let's get down to business:
Vote: ELITECubWarman8
for being new and having such a long fricking name.


3 Scum vs 27 Townies is pretty much auto loss for Scum. So expect multiple Scum factions, Cults(ughh) or some really strong Scum powers.


pretty obvious statement here. anyone who has played more than 2 games of mafia will realize this right away. doesnt help us find scum at all.



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On February 11 2011 15:27 Ace wrote:
well people get accused all of the time. Why panic?

Besides I don't see what the voting rules are in the OP. Is it Majority lynch or most votes to lynch?

zero scumhunting.
and heres a little bit of what is commonly known as a scum tactic.
ask general and irrelevent questions regarding the game in a attempt to look like your providing content to the town.


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On February 11 2011 17:37 Ace wrote:
actually gryffindor he answered your question - even though if it was terrible since he never defended Coagulation. What he did wasn't even buddying. Why so jumpy sir? And it only took you 2 minutes between reading Misder's post and voting to come firm to this conclusion?

Are you voting just to vote or do you honestly think Node is scummy?


pretty much the only real post he has made so far with any substance.
however notice it is slightly tinted in a negative contrast. far from solid analysis or scumhunting that i would expect from a vet player like him.



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On February 11 2011 17:47 Ace wrote:
Actually a hard to read player is still bad

If you don't appear Pro-Town to me why would I want to keep you alive?


more contentless smalltalk. Zero scumhunting here folks.


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On February 11 2011 17:59 Ace wrote:
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On February 11 2011 17:56 Node wrote:
On February 11 2011 17:47 Ace wrote:
Actually a hard to read player is still bad


Speak for yourself.


if you dont agree then tell me why :D


Another Zero content fluff post with general conversation to make it look like hes contributing.
no suprise there is Zero scumhunting here


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On February 12 2011 06:54 Ace wrote:
The people voting for Zerroth should be DT checked on Night 1 for sure.

Anyway since our characters are based on what went on in the Totalwar forums, players from the totalwar website can you post and give us the characteristics or play style of some of the players there?

ALARM BELLS GOING OFF
YEAH SURE WE WILL CHECK WHOEVER YOU SAY. CAUSE CLEARLY JUDGING FROM YOUR POST HISTORY YOU HAVE AN INVESTED INTEREST IN FINDING SCUM. WE BETTER LISTEN.
also asking other people to scumhunt.
Fantastic work ace.
zero scumhunting here.


On February 12 2011 08:37 Ace wrote:
Unvote Coagulation


MORE ALARM BELLS. was so fucking dedicated to vote me that he couldnt even wait for the fucking day post to get my name on the board. now he unvotes me and doesnt say a word about it.
You know what kind of players dont feel compelled to explain their reasoning behind their decision making. If you guessed scum you are correct.















Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 03:18 GMT
#294
On February 12 2011 12:13 Ace wrote:
you're trying too hard. Stop it. This is also why I said I never believed you were any good at catching Scum.



hey i did a post by post analysis of a player. why on earth should i stop it?

let town be the one who decide if im trying too hard.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 03:22 GMT
#295
Also i would like to point out that i never gave a Scum verdict at the end of my analysis because i didnt feel it was warranted its still far too early to properly get a read on you. however i think you are the first person i have ever seen post "stop doing post by post analysis on players"


I recall last mafia game everyone pissing and moaning that i "wasnt trying hard enough" (brownbear/node can verify this) Now im getting the "your trying too hard"
Fuck my life.
Mind = blown.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 03:38 GMT
#301
nope
I dont hold personal grudges from game to game.
theres not a single person in this game that i dislike.
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[image loading]

the majority of players here i actually love very much.
including both people i have did analysis on so far.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 04:02 GMT
#311
On February 12 2011 12:41 Ace wrote:
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On February 12 2011 12:22 Coagulation wrote:
Also i would like to point out that i never gave a Scum verdict at the end of my analysis because i didnt feel it was warranted its still far too early to properly get a read on you. however i think you are the first person i have ever seen post "stop doing post by post analysis on players"


I recall last mafia game everyone pissing and moaning that i "wasnt trying hard enough" (brownbear/node can verify this) Now im getting the "your trying too hard"
Fuck my life.
Mind = blown.


I don't usually support PBPA. You're looking at someone's post trying to find scum qualities instead of reading them with an objective head. Look at the terrible justifications you have for the posts I made. You aren't scum hunting you're just posting shit.



just one question
Have you posted any scumhunting related content or any analysis on anyone?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 04:12 GMT
#315
regardless of whether you personaly think my analysis has any merit. you cant deny the fact that it is making you post with substance and conviction that is otherwise lacking from you so far giving us more to read.
dont try to tell me there is no value in that.

Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 04:26 GMT
#320
On February 12 2011 13:13 aidnai wrote:
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On February 12 2011 12:36 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
Rofl...I see Kenpachi and Pandain are not playing, so I hate to say it Coag but you're our only viable day 1 lynch.


Jumps on the day one Coag bandwagon. Yet doesn't place his vote on him until the lynch gains more steam.

On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
I'm most interested in getting to know the new guys pevergreen brought over, so let's get down to business:
Vote: ELITECubWarman8
for being new and having such a long fricking name.


His reason for the lynch is because he doesn't like his name? What kind of excuse is that?

On February 11 2011 14:34 aidnai wrote:
I'm tempted to browse pevergreen's games at the other site since I have a feeling he's run this exact setup before... No time for that at the moment unfortunately.


What does this post even mean?

"Hey guys, I was thinking of doing something, but I just want to let you all know that I'm not"

Thanks for the info!

On February 11 2011 15:37 aidnai wrote:
First off, don't edit. It's a cardinal sin, or perhaps a mortal sin (anyone know which is worse?). Second, before you start defending Coag, I'd go look at some of his prior games. His play style is hard to read at best, and harmful to town at worst...


Again, pushes the Coag bandwagon based on the fact that he is a tough player to read. While we are at it, why not lynch Ace too?

On February 11 2011 17:44 aidnai wrote:
Node is correct about Coag by the way, whether or not either of them is scum. Coag has done nothing unusual for his own 'meta' so far this game.


In other words: Leave coag alone! He has done nothing wrong this game. Why are people pushing for his lynch?

On February 11 2011 17:44 aidnai wrote:
FOS on gryffindor. I won't change my vote yet, until more people have posted and I have reads on more people. But your logic for voting Node is suspect to say the least.


Meaning: I won't change my vote.......until its safe enough to do so.

On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:
On February 12 2011 06:09 SouthRawrea wrote:
I'm not sure if you're all aware but the point of this game is to scumhunt, find and then subsequently lynch the mafia. I highly recommend any newer players to ask questions early on before we get into deep shit because we want you to learn whilst also not having you as a liability. That being said with this vote count it's not hard to see that we're largely divided on votes right now:
Vote Count
Misder:1
EliteClubwarman:1
theflufflyone93:1
Node:1
zerroth:4
Brownbear:1
bumatlarge:1
Lunargotnodestiny:1

At this point, it's most likely that the rest of the town is going to bandwagon zerroth unless a new development arises. I ask of you zerroth to help us help you help us by trying to contribute or by simply responding. If you're unsure of what you should be saying, we can direct you to some guides in this section of the teamliquid forums and try and point you in a general direction of what you want to achieve in this game. Leave no man behind .

1) generic advice to town
Overall this feels like a forced post, aka, scum trying to figure out something town-like to post.


On February 12 2011 07:49 aidnai wrote:
directing DT checks at the people voting zerroth is really a great option I believe.


Calls out SouthRawrea for giving generic advice to the town and then does so himself. Comes off hypocritical.

On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:
If access is not granted soon, I hope Pevergreen would consider extending day some more.


Lets lynch this scum. If you are unsure about the day one vote, then here is our best option. Most people on the Eastern Coast will be going to bed soon so its important we all agree on a target before night. Otherwise, 3 votes might be enough to get someone lynched.

VOTE FOR THE SCUM
VOTE aidnai



This is rich Kita, really rich...
Let's summarize your case, if that's possible.
1) Jumps on the lynch Coag day 1 bandwagon with an obvious joke post that is followed by me later saying 'Coag is hard to read, don't waste your time defending him' and 'Coag is within his normal meta'.
2) gives generic town advice actually saying DT's should check the zerroth vote list is pretty specific, but unfortunately I can't take credit for the idea :/
3) FoSing and pressuring people is a bad thing? I should be vote hopping instead? lol...

You know what, this really feels like an Annul vs LSB situation from, uh, what mafia was hmm.. it's slipped my mind. You remember, when Annul was godfather and tunneled LSB to his day one lynch with the expectation of not being held accountable later.



i am also extremely perplexed how he had come to the conclusion that you are a good lynch target from his analysis

and to make matters even more intriguing he is going to what i would consider extreme lengths in PM land to see your ass hang tonight.

cant say im too inclined to step my ass in the line of fire to save you from his apparently out of nowhere vendetta considering you previously seemed to find it logical to policy lynch me day one.

but i doubt your mafia.. at least i doubt theres enough substantial evidence to justify lynching you.

Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 04:29 GMT
#321
To be honest
I dont think that anyone who has posted in the last 5 or so pages is mafia

I feel like we got a pretty good textbook example of mafia sitting back and watching town take turns fucking each other in the ass.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 04:40 GMT
#324
On February 12 2011 13:37 Misder wrote:


How is PM land going for everyone btw? I'm lonely.


PM Kita
he needs a friend.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 05:32 GMT
#331
Hi welcome to tl.net mafia.
thanks for the omgus
i dont think ace is scum btw just a jerk.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 06:38 GMT
#344
looks like kita has had his eye specifically on aidnai for no apparent reason from the get go.
check out top of page 8
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186653&currentpage=8#142

On February 11 2011 13:57 kitaman27 wrote:
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On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
Rofl...I see Kenpachi and Pandain are not playing, so I hate to say it Coag but you're our only viable day 1 lynch.

I see that there are only 3 scum, and there's no abstaining. We're almost certainly gonna be lynching a lot of townies this game. KP will be our best indicator of lynch success it looks like, though if we kill the GF we may not realize immediately.

I'm most interested in getting to know the new guys pevergreen brought over, so let's get down to business:
Vote: ELITECubWarman8
for being new and having such a long fricking name.


You suck....twice.

If we were to select one of the newer guys to lynch, I would choose Project Psycho. He certainly gets on my nerves.

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On February 11 2011 13:50 Coagulation wrote:
We should lynch zerroth
because the last game
completely inactive
only posted/vote to avoid modkill etc

Lets get the inactives out now


Agreed. In Haunted Mafia, he publicly claimed mafia directly resulting in a town loss.


anyone else see it?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 06:40 GMT
#346
im thinking its a role condition that has made him attack aidnai the way he did.
now im just trying to figure out what the condition is.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 06:55 GMT
#349
this is probably the most lenient game of mafia in regards to modkills i have ever seen.
and you know what i bet theres still 5-6 people who get modkilled in the end.
anyway. it looks like we are gonna have to deal with lurkers inactives with lynches
otherwise mafia will hide all game and have zero incentive to post.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 06:58 GMT
#351
On February 12 2011 15:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Going to bed now, won't be back until a few hours after lynch. I don't want to hop onto the Zerroth bandwagon in case he actually shows up sometime and I won't be around to change my vote.

##Unvote: Mr. Wiggles
##Vote: kitaman27

Voting for kita, I want to see an explanation of the very quick tunneling of aidnai. It might have something to do with your red text, but honestly this could mean anything from getting a new power to forming a new faction based off a quick skim through some of pever's other games. I want to see what you have to say now that others are questioning you, not just aidnai.

So long, see you guys tomorrow.


Kita isnt gonna tell anyone anything
and zerroth isnt gonna jump into the thread and start contributing anytime soon we might as well get rid of him.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 07:04 GMT
#353
can we get a ratification on the inactivity rules.. if people dont at least make the effort to Vote every lynch session then are they even actually playing the game?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 07:28 GMT
#358
thats the problem tho
you cant analyze someone who posted nothing.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 07:30 GMT
#359
kita apparently has to quote 50 random posts that have nothing in common and then write a line that has nothing to do with anything.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 12 2011 07:50 GMT
#365
hell his single post with his vote on himself alone has pretty much bumped his contribution level above 50% of players in this game.
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