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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 16 2011 08:08 GMT
#11
/in ^_^
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 17 2011 02:25 GMT
#34
On January 17 2011 09:16 LSB wrote:
Please add things to your profile. The more things in your profile, the harder it would be for the town to find you if you are mafia

OriginalName
Barundar
Pandain

Please add stuff to your profile. You don't want the clues to be. "A person who's name starts with B, and rhymes with radar killed LSB".

Thanks!


That reminds me. I better update mine!

muahaha. Now if anyone wants to find clues pointing to me, they will have to suffer by reading through English literature
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2011 01:58 GMT
#136
On January 21 2011 10:55 Kavdragon wrote:
So...I'm bored. Can we start mayoral campaigns yet?


You can be like LSB and announce your scummy plan before the game has started so you have a cover once you get your anti-town alignment pm!
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2011 23:20 GMT
#196
On January 23 2011 08:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 04:46 Kavdragon wrote:
On January 23 2011 04:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
SIGN ME THE FUCK UP


That was a fast two week ban...

My rage overcame the time space continuum which hypertransmuted 2 weeks into roughly 4 days.


Actually, I think it really has been 2 weeks and these hosts just take really, really long to get this game started :p
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 23 2011 02:10 GMT
#212
/confirm
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 23 2011 02:27 GMT
#227
On January 23 2011 11:25 ilovejonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 11:23 Kavdragon wrote:
On January 23 2011 11:19 LunarDestiny wrote:
And out the blood flew. Black as night, black as blindfolds, black as... blood.

I thought the bolding of the text is suspicious, so I did some googling of "black black black."

http://www.blackblackandblack.com/

Are they basing the game on this site?

Just a small glimpse of the site.
Practice Areas - Overview
At the law offices of Black, Black, and Black, our lawyers our extensively trained and focused on four practices areas of law including personal injury, criminal, family, and medical malpractice.

Medical malpractice seemed to be the theme of this game. Any opinion?


Bolding of the words seems like it's too obvious, but that's just my opinion. (Since you asked.)

Woo, it does seem to be in theme with the scientists and stuff.


I assume black refers to the fact that their alignment is not revealed in this game. Normally, a scum would bleed red and a town would bleed green.

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 23 2011 07:25 GMT
#287
I would like to announce my intention to run for Mayor on behalf of the Kavdragon sucks Party!

Do not allow yourselves to be deceived by his well thought out posts and eagerness to lead the town to victory. I promise a campaign that delivers straight facts, rather than the propaganda spewing machine he has created.

FACT:
Kavdragon was mafia in Pokemafia.
kitaman27 has never been mafia.

FACT:
Kavdragon has never correctly landed a vig hit.
kitaman27 has never missed a vig hit*

*while not being role blocked

FACT:
First is the worst.
Second is the best.
Third is the one with the treasure chest.

Now allow me to uncover some shocking revelations:

[image loading]

Using pro-town technology, I was able to uncover an additional hidden arrow. You heard it here first folks, kavdragon is a mod-confirmed scum.

On January 23 2011 12:27 Kavdragon wrote:
(PS, i might be an invincible Vigilante, that can protect anyone, and check two people for their role per night. It'd suck to pass up that awesome role in the mayor seat.)

Первым человеком, решить мою головоломка в этой кампании будет получить мое восхищение.
--отец КавДракона



For those too lazy to translate here is what that means:

lolz this town is full of noobs. Unless a brave, handsome individual comes forth to oppose me, this game is already over. Brb, going to kill some puppies.
-Kavdragon


I'm pretty sure I've seen similar symbols in a Call of Duty game in COMMUNIST RUSSIA! That's right, Kavdragon is a COMMUNIST. And what color do communists love? Red. What color is scum? Red. What color is the communist scum Kavdragon? Red

+ Show Spoiler [Text Endorsements] +

On August 9 1974 11:63 VER wrote:
Kav's the One. Kav for mayor.


On January 20 1961 11:63 Node wrote:
I Like Kav. Vote for Kav.


On January 22 2011 11:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm Meapak_Ziphh and I approve this message.


On January 22 2011 11:26 SiNiquity wrote:
I'm SiNiquity and I approve this message.


On January 21 2011 08:42 LSB wrote:
KAV 4 MAYOR!
I'll make you a mspaint poster!!!!




Hey look, he was even kind enough to provide the entire scum team! As mayor, these would be my first 5 targets. In addition, as I predict to be the number one scum target as mayor, I nominate Kavdragon as my bodyguard to soak up all the bullets aimed in my direction.

On January 23 2011 12:27 Kavdragon wrote:
Vote for Victory!

Vote for Kav!


Has anyone noticed he never indicated which side would be victorious? How convenient. Let me fix that for you.

On January 23 2011 12:27 Kavdragon wrote:
Vote for a mafia Victory!

Vote for Kav!
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 23 2011 20:18 GMT
#323
I think the best bodyguard selection method would be to select two first-time or relatively new players who might not be the most active. This would force the mafia to choose between picking off the experienced players or the bodyguards that they would normally live to late game in a normal setup.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 23 2011 21:47 GMT
#337
In regards to the Census, I think the best course of action would be to check the number of mafia every night. We can figure out the number of serial killers based on the number of deaths during the night. Finding out the number of dt's or godfathers would be nice, but not nearly as important as the mafia number. Since the alignments will not be revealed upon death, checking the mafia count with every census would help pin down if certain deaths were mafia or not.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 23 2011 22:41 GMT
#341
On January 24 2011 07:27 Kavdragon wrote:
1 Mafia, 1 Town BG:
This is the worst setup, and is likely what would happen if we tried to choose two mafia. As has been stated, this would essentially mean that the mafia could trade one of their own, for me. Bad trade for the town.


I would gladly trade myself for a mafia. The census is nice and all, but eliminating a scum would surely be worth the loss.

On January 24 2011 07:27 Kavdragon wrote:
The first check would go to finding the number of Mafia. After that, I would decide what to do based of of what happened during the day. For instance, while I agree with Kita that checking Mafia constantly would be nice for getting information out of lynches, I think that we can squeeze more information out of it.

Knowing that someone is mafia only helps if they are connected to someone else. As such I would only check mafia consecutively if the lynch target had a convincing connection to someone else.


The problem is that the mafia are always connected to each other. They know each others identities and will attempt to manipulate the town into saving one of their own. The ability to interpret lynch results should not be sacrificed in order to receive novelty information.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 23 2011 23:09 GMT
#346
On January 24 2011 08:02 Kavdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 07:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 24 2011 07:27 Kavdragon wrote:
1 Mafia, 1 Town BG:
This is the worst setup, and is likely what would happen if we tried to choose two mafia. As has been stated, this would essentially mean that the mafia could trade one of their own, for me. Bad trade for the town.


I would gladly trade myself for a mafia. The census is nice and all, but eliminating a scum would surely be worth the loss.

On January 24 2011 07:27 Kavdragon wrote:
The first check would go to finding the number of Mafia. After that, I would decide what to do based of of what happened during the day. For instance, while I agree with Kita that checking Mafia constantly would be nice for getting information out of lynches, I think that we can squeeze more information out of it.

Knowing that someone is mafia only helps if they are connected to someone else. As such I would only check mafia consecutively if the lynch target had a convincing connection to someone else.


The problem is that the mafia are always connected to each other. They know each others identities and will attempt to manipulate the town into saving one of their own. The ability to interpret lynch results should not be sacrificed in order to receive novelty information.


Yes, trading a townie for a mafia is a good trade, but I think that the mayor was given an informational power that should not so carelessly be thrown away. I do not agree that trading any one person would be worth it however. For instance, if there was a DT in the mayor seat, i think that it would be worth one mafia. (Note, this is NOT a claim, so please don't hound me as if it were.)


Once you find a single mafia, you are much more likely to find others. Since there are clues, the dt becomes even less relied on. I still believe any person, regardless of role, would be worth the trade.

On January 24 2011 08:02 Kavdragon wrote:
Also, I'd check the number of mafia first. If the number is odd, then the number of KP shown the next night will tell us if we were right or not. It would be a waste to use the Mayor's power to double check this.


If a mafia and SK hit overlaps than it would appear as if we had decreased the kp, when in reality we did not. As a result, the next lynch would be based upon false assumptions. I don't think that it would be a waste.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 24 2011 00:50 GMT
#364
On January 24 2011 09:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
For instance in Haunted Mafia, people focused heavily on the "silver hammer" in one clue and the "baseball bat" in another when both were completely irrelevant.


Maybe if there wasn't a guy whose only picture was A DUDE WITH A BASEBALL BAT, then that wouldn't have been a problem :p
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 24 2011 03:07 GMT
#394
On January 24 2011 12:05 OriginalName wrote:
Just my two sense but remember this.

Show nested quote +
In addition. There was a red herring in this story
“...the hell? That sounds like... Spoon?”

Spoon is an indie rock band. It says in Node’s profile that he listens to indie rock. Therefore, the clue points to him.

There will not be many intentional red herrings, but as the stories become more detailed, there may be some.


Who knows maybe the Black could be such a red herring to throw us off >_>.


Wouldn't the correct response be that "cat" and "luck" are the red herrings? I don't think black is really the thing people are focused on.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 24 2011 03:52 GMT
#411
The Kavdragon Sucks Party is happy announce its official endorsement for Kavdragon as mayor!
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 24 2011 04:13 GMT
#422
On January 24 2011 13:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Kita why have you stopped running?


Kavdragon was victorious in the primary, so now we must band together against the tyranny of DrHelvetica in the general election.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#496
On January 25 2011 05:29 LSB wrote:
For clues about d3_cresentia and Deconduo, please use Pandain's and DoctorHelvetica's profiles

Clues for d3_cresentia
Clues for Deconduo


You can't fool us!

On January 24 2011 11:01 Node wrote:
We all first met at a party in Florida. A ‘pre-sailing’ party as they said.


Deconduo
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 24 2011 21:25 GMT
#507
On January 25 2011 06:23 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 06:22 zerroth wrote:
On January 25 2011 06:16 aidnai wrote:
Anyone else notice that LSB is just spamming one liners with no analysis, always discussing game setup and he only posts when called out? I didn't know it was possible to be this scummy!

## Vote: LSB



is this a serious post?

Looked serious to me.


Are you defending LSB, zerroth? You're acting pretty scummy as well.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 24 2011 21:38 GMT
#511
On January 25 2011 06:31 zerroth wrote:
LSB is already dead


You killed him, didn't you?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 25 2011 02:23 GMT
#565
On January 25 2011 11:17 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 10:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On January 25 2011 10:37 BrownBear wrote:
I would think RoL would have posted saying "NVM guys, my bad, don't want to be mayor after all..." Perhaps he's feeling apathetic about this game as well? If so, why is he still playing? Apathy shouldn't be tolerated.

I'll switch over to Kav in a second. Let's not just all agree on killing ON right now though. More discussion/analysis = better chance of killing someone. Also, ON isn't really doing a good job of defending himself if he actually is scum. Typically scum are more active in their defense, and will usually try to deflect suspicion onto someone else, or highlight someone else's scummy behavior. Basically, draw suspicion away from them, not act like the suspicion is no big deal. That speaks apathetic townie to me, not scum.

I agree that we shouldn't be 100% locked into lynching ON but as Ilovejonn (can I abbreviate to ILJ?) pointed out, ON has done a couple of weakish and scummish defenses of himself. Right now I'm inclined to say he's a SK rather than mafia but either would be a good kill. However I will (and I hope Kav does as well) continue to look around to make sure we have the best fit for the clue.


Honestly, if we become convinced he's SK, we should just make him a bodyguard, and lynch him at our leisure.


I'm not sure why we would be convinced he is SK, but to put someone who is likely an outed scum into a bodyguard position doesn't seem to make much sense to me.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 25 2011 02:27 GMT
#568
On January 25 2011 11:25 Pandain wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Pandain wants YOU for the Team mini mafia replacements. Just join and vote nemesis.

Remember, only you can prevent mafia victory in the next 30 minutes


Heh I already volunteered, still waiting to hear back from Incognito
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 25 2011 03:16 GMT
#573
On January 25 2011 12:09 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 12:03 Kavdragon wrote:
On January 24 2011 11:20 Node wrote:
As LSB said, there are clues in the Day 1 post. I obviously can't say where they are now, but they will take the more "traditional" format DrH mentioned in future days.


Has anyone considered the fact that the hosts are being really ambiguous about the day 1 clue(s)? On all other days it says that there will be clues leading to the killer of the person, but what if the first day was different...Why are they being non-committal towards the first day?


Maybe they will give more information on the next day. From what it sounds like though, and the black text everywhere, my thoughts are he is a SK.


Like I said before, I believe black refers to the fact that alignment will not be revealed.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 25 2011 04:16 GMT
#587
On January 25 2011 12:17 papapanda wrote:
my thoughts are the first day clues are just an example of how the clue would be like for new players(like me:D) and are pointing towards people outside the game(like Qatol, LSB, Node...etc) In other words, not really relevent to ON?


On January 25 2011 12:52 bumatlarge wrote:
Day1 clues are always very general and abstract. I'd be very surprised if everything you are pinning on ON is actually all real clues


On January 25 2011 13:02 Nemesis wrote:
It's day 1, and I would rather not talk about clues. Clues are rather vague until we get the hang of it. It is just derailing the thread here.


Awful lot of people trying to shift attention away from our scum suspect.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 26 2011 00:32 GMT
#662
lol you are all over the place bum.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 26 2011 01:52 GMT
#672
On January 26 2011 10:47 Kavdragon wrote:
Right, so long story short, my computer crashed and I lost the response I put together over the past hour. Sucks, but I'm not going to hang on it.

Here's the short version from my memory:
RNG is stupid.
Bum is Scum.
BrownBear is being dumb for following Bum.

I'm considering lynching Bum, if the town agrees. Otherwise I will follow through with the ON lynch, so as not to upset people.


Considering you haven't provided an argument again bum and this is a last minute change, I would feel more comfortable lynching ON and keeping a careful watch on bum.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 26 2011 02:09 GMT
#685
Hi Barundar! Prepare to be confused with Beneather.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 26 2011 02:33 GMT
#689
On January 26 2011 11:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 11:12 SiNiquity wrote:
On January 26 2011 11:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hi Barundar!

So mayor should be getting mafia numbers tonight, awesome.

And if he's smart, every night.


I think if we could spare a night on SKs so we can can determine the night kills better, it would be useful, but I what your saying.


Once we have the mafia number, we also have the SK number unless there is a vig hit. Why would checking if the lynched was a SK be more helpful than checking if he was scum?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 26 2011 02:44 GMT
#692
On January 26 2011 11:43 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 11:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 26 2011 11:21 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 26 2011 11:12 SiNiquity wrote:
On January 26 2011 11:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hi Barundar!

So mayor should be getting mafia numbers tonight, awesome.

And if he's smart, every night.


I think if we could spare a night on SKs so we can can determine the night kills better, it would be useful, but I what your saying.


Once we have the mafia number, we also have the SK number unless there is a vig hit. Why would checking if the lynched was a SK be more helpful than checking if he was scum?


Almost true, but we are assuming that #ofM/2 is the formula, which may or may not be the case. If we all feel safe assuming that, then you're right


It was mod confirmed.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 26 2011 02:49 GMT
#696
On January 26 2011 11:44 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 11:44 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 26 2011 11:43 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 26 2011 11:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 26 2011 11:21 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 26 2011 11:12 SiNiquity wrote:
On January 26 2011 11:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hi Barundar!

So mayor should be getting mafia numbers tonight, awesome.

And if he's smart, every night.


I think if we could spare a night on SKs so we can can determine the night kills better, it would be useful, but I what your saying.


Once we have the mafia number, we also have the SK number unless there is a vig hit. Why would checking if the lynched was a SK be more helpful than checking if he was scum?


Almost true, but we are assuming that #ofM/2 is the formula, which may or may not be the case. If we all feel safe assuming that, then you're right


It was mod confirmed.

Don't make assumptions about the formula.


On January 20 2011 11:44 LSB wrote:
Wait... what??
I sec as I talk to node.

Mafia KP is just the standard [#Mafia Alive]/2 rounded up.


Oh, so this might not be true?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 26 2011 20:08 GMT
#761
As mentioned before, this paragraph seems very odd to me. If anyone is bored, here might be a place to start. The only connection I could find was the fact that TheAldo is from Flordia or the hero references in multiple different profiles. It seems like there could be something else though that I'm missing.

We all first met at a party in Florida. A ‘pre-sailing’ party as they said. We all applied to start a colony on an unnamed island in the Caribbeans. We were going to be heroes, the founders of a city, the explorers of the modern age.
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#765
On January 26 2011 09:29 bumatlarge wrote:
Considering there is a better chance of him being red, I guess I will. Though RoL should be more vocal. Alright RoL TIME TO WIN YOU TOWNIE.


Just curious, what indicated to you that Kavdragon was more likely scum than RoL. And since that was the case, why would you wait for someone suggesting RoL rather than voting him in the first place.
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January 27 2011 00:21 GMT
#767
On January 27 2011 09:17 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 09:04 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 26 2011 09:29 bumatlarge wrote:
Considering there is a better chance of him being red, I guess I will. Though RoL should be more vocal. Alright RoL TIME TO WIN YOU TOWNIE.


Just curious, what indicated to you that Kavdragon was more likely scum than RoL. And since that was the case, why would you wait for someone suggesting RoL rather than voting him in the first place.


After night ends, I want to try to spend the time I have left looking at clues and analyzing, so I'd prefer to answer curious people right now.


Uncle bum, where to babies come from?
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January 27 2011 02:17 GMT
#797
RoL's Profile
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.


Every city has its dark place, the area that no one in their right mind will go. Ours is the forest, the woods that loom in the center. Away from the campfire, away from the tents, away from the city. The thick, ancient trunks loom, the undisturbed bark hard as stone, the tangled roots cloying at uncareful limbs. No one knows what happens there, and certainly no one would venture there in the night.

But tonight, the forest stirs. Its solitude is intruded upon.


First thing that comes to mind points to RoL. Murder scene could be the road less traveled.
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January 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#806
On January 27 2011 11:24 Kavdragon wrote:
I'll make a longer post on this, but I'm pretty sure that TheAldo was an SK hit. It makes no sense for the mafia to hit him, and some sense for an SK who wants to sit this out till he can figure out who is winning.

Btw, people seem to think that SK would be willing to ally with the town. Very unlikely. The only way they die is lynch, so they have nothing to fear from mafia, and everything to fear from town. We are their biggest threat, so they will more likely sit on the side till one side gains the upper hand, or try to snipe townies.


Any particular reason you haven't immediately posted the census results? Waiting to hear who may or may not have absorbed a hit gives more room for manipulation.
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#809
On January 27 2011 11:42 ilovejonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 11:40 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 27 2011 11:24 Kavdragon wrote:
I'll make a longer post on this, but I'm pretty sure that TheAldo was an SK hit. It makes no sense for the mafia to hit him, and some sense for an SK who wants to sit this out till he can figure out who is winning.

Btw, people seem to think that SK would be willing to ally with the town. Very unlikely. The only way they die is lynch, so they have nothing to fear from mafia, and everything to fear from town. We are their biggest threat, so they will more likely sit on the side till one side gains the upper hand, or try to snipe townies.


Any particular reason you haven't immediately posted the census results? Waiting to hear who may or may not have absorbed a hit gives more room for manipulation.

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 11:13 Kavdragon wrote:
Rest in peace brother Meapak_Ziph. See you in another life.

In other news, I've been informed that there are 5 mafia.



Oh, thanks.
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January 27 2011 04:18 GMT
#824
On January 27 2011 13:12 Kavdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 13:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I was roleblocked last night.


Anyone going to counterclaim? Not that there can't be two role blockers, but it does make things more interesting. (Actually, Has anyone seen a setup with 2 role blockers?)


Doesn't really clear him either way. A day one team roleblock to give credibility to their failed mayoral candidate is not out of the question. If you think about it, if RoL was town, giving one of the two mayoral candidates a sense of credibility would be one of the last things the mafia would want to do.
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January 27 2011 04:26 GMT
#826
@bum, I question the timing of your analysis. With exception of the clues, all that information was available pre-election. Yet until now, you have insisted kavdragon was the more scummy of the two. Why wait until now to jump on your target?

-Your good friend kita
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#859
On January 28 2011 01:55 darmousseh wrote:
Nemsis, then by elimination, is the scum. He is desperately trying to combat all information we gather in clues. Here are some recent posts.

Show nested quote +
5 mafia according to him.


Show nested quote +

sigh, do I even have to point out why this analysis is crap?

Fine, I guess I will. First of all, the clues are divided into two parts: the two seperate deaths....


Show nested quote +
Next day, I think it might be more beneficial to check the number of SK's.


Show nested quote +
kitaman, I would rather not depend on clues over post analysis.


Show nested quote +
And fine, if you think the clue leads to him, and want him lynched for the first day. Don't you already have kavdragon's support? Why discuss it further if kav has already decided to lynch him?


Show nested quote +
I don't really have time to delve hardcore into this day's clue right now, but let me just give you what I could find in a short amount of time.


Almost all of his posts have a negative attitude towards the value of clues and the value of things which would help townies get more information about SKs.


Anyone find it hypocritical that Nemesis spends so much time bashing the clue analysis and then proceeds to attempt to find two weak clue references to myself and GMarshal?

It should also be noted that Nemesis was one of the more vocal RoL supporters for mayor and neither suspect has attempted to turn on each other yet.

On January 28 2011 01:55 darmousseh wrote:
If we want, a vig can hit RoL, but I think we should save the Vig for later so we can doubly check to make sure he is actually the SK.


I believe SK block vig hits since they are bulletproof, so if you are sure he is a SK then a vig hit would be more of a confirmation shot, than a kill shot. If you believe he is mafia, then a vig shot would certainly be appropriate, however.
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#885
On January 28 2011 09:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2011 09:09 darmousseh wrote:
There seem to be a lot of people who are not posting anything. Are people always this inactive?

Give me a list and I'll try to tell you.


*Gives a gold star for trying to follow BC's advice
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#893
Amber has not posted since page 31 before the election was decided. Since then, he has contributed literally nothing. I find it suspicious that a normally active player is on the verge of mod-kill.

Coagulation does not have a single post of value. His greatest contribution so far has been wishing Pandain happy birthday.

Divinek has mentioned in past conversation that he loves to lurk as scum. 4 posts, none of which provide a trace of analysis.
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#896
On January 28 2011 11:59 Coagulation wrote:
its not that i dont read the thread
i just dont post unless i see something worth posting about.


Quick response. So there has been nothing this entire game that has been worth posting about? Not a single person that seems fishy? Not a single clue you could find that relates to someones profile?
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#899
On January 28 2011 12:07 Coagulation wrote:
umm do you read my post's?


+ Show Spoiler +
On January 26 2011 15:38 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 14:24 Beneather wrote:
On January 26 2011 14:15 TheAldo wrote:
On January 26 2011 13:10 Nemesis wrote:
Hi barundar

and obviously kav is going to check the number of mafias tonight right?

Next day, I think it might be more beneficial to check the number of SK's.


Why is it beneficial to check the number of SK's?


It's more beneficial because we then know how many KP a night we're going to have. Since the regular mafia games have 5-6 mafia members and we know the formula then it would be atleast 3-4 KPs a night. I think knowing the number of SK will benefit the town to prepare for the number of KPs at night.




referes to the mafia Kp count as "we're"
and refers to the "town" in an outside perspective.

Badly worded post or scumslip?


Posts? As in plural? Is there a second example?
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January 28 2011 03:16 GMT
#901
On January 28 2011 12:13 Coagulation wrote:
sure like now i can point out how extremely aggressive kitaman27 is pushing suspicion on me for no reason and say its starting to look scummy.

+ Show Spoiler +
"So there has been nothing this entire game that has been worth posting about? Not a single person that seems fishy?"


i gave you an example that proves your blowing things out of proportion.


I wouldn't say its suspicion for no reason. The fact that haven't contributed anything is what makes you look suspicious. The fact that you can provide only a single weak post out of 900 posts in the thread doesn't really seem like blowing things out of proportion.
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#903
On January 28 2011 12:17 Coagulation wrote:
when town its usually best to lay low unless theres a reason not to.
when late game comes i post more.


also many people will confirm that i post 100x more when im mafia.


What reason is there a reason to lay low? Is there something to hide from?

An active thread provides more information so when you get to late game, you actually have something to go by.
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#912
On January 28 2011 12:56 GMarshal wrote:
Hence I think we should pressure and, if we don't get satisfactory results, lynch them. For now, I'm going to vote Coagulation , I may switch over to another equaly inactive player later, but for now Coagulation's pro inactive attitude seems highly suspicious to me.


Despite me poking at coag, I still think we should focus the lynch between nemesis and RoL rather than spread it out between a bunch of people. RoL has been laying low relative to how he started and nemesis hasn't really defended himself adequately either.
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#924
On January 28 2011 13:20 GMarshal wrote:
@LunarDestiny: I think that the names wouldn't be clues because its too evident, unless their profiles are otherwise bare, I suspect that the mods would make us work harder for results, this is why I think the RoL and Nemesis clue analysis both have merits, because they aren't immediately evident, and actually required work to uncover.


From past clue games I'm pretty sure there have always been at least one or two name references that get mixed in. That doesn't necessarily mean they will be present in this game, but its a possibility.
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January 28 2011 04:34 GMT
#926
On January 28 2011 13:33 Coagulation wrote:
CubEdIn
tube
Kenpachi
Divinek

scum be there


Cool, now you just have to provide reasoning rather than selecting 4 members and posting that some might be scum.
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January 28 2011 21:49 GMT
#977
On January 29 2011 06:41 Nemesis wrote:
If you think, I'm scum, say why. I feel like clues just let people FoS someone without giving a good reason for their votes.


bum provided an analysis against you. Do you plan to respond to that?
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#991
On January 24 2011 18:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I generally obsess over mafia games and read it for hours and hours each day until I die. As town I tend to post whenever I feel like it but as mafia I only post when I feel it is necessary. IE: I will feign inactivity to avoid commenting on a situation, or make sure I wait until its too late to reverse a stupid band wagon. Usually if I do the latter I will purposely try to divert the lynch to a team mate that way if either one of us dies it makes the other look better via wifom.


This post doesn't help his case. He is active during the mayoral election ("when he feels it is necessary"), disappears after the day post ("feign inactivity") until the votes start to pile up against coag ("until its too late to reverse a stupid band wagon")
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January 28 2011 23:33 GMT
#1012
Modkills hurt the town even more than usually because there will be no way to tell if our lynch was correct when there are a bunch of other deaths mixed into the census.
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January 29 2011 01:41 GMT
#1033
With 20 minutes remaining, the mafia controls who gets lynched. Splitting votes across four candidates allows a single vote to change the lynch results. Coag, I don't know why you would vote for zerroth when you have four votes against you and leave yourself vulnerable to being lynched.
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January 29 2011 02:01 GMT
#1036
On January 29 2011 11:00 Kavdragon wrote:
Wait. The night post is going to be two hours late, does this mean that we have two more hours on this lynch?


I don't think so. 6 modkills is disgusting :/
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#1042
On January 29 2011 11:03 ilovejonn wrote:
Yes we do. Node said Day ends 11 EST. which is 2 hours from this post.


Are you sure he didn't mean the night post at 11EST? It he said 2 and a half hours remaining for the day, which would have ended 7 minutes ago.

On January 29 2011 08:25 Node wrote:
2 and a half hours to go. Seeing as both hosts are busy and there's rampant inactivity, the night post will be delayed for two hours. That means 20:00 PST / 23:00 EST / 13:00 KST.

d3_crescentia, ilovejonn, tube, Jackal58, Mr.Zergling, zerroth, and CubEdIn all need to vote or will face a modkill.

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#1108
On January 30 2011 03:52 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh and can someone save a vig for night 3 please small request


Reasoning?
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January 30 2011 00:29 GMT
#1133
It seems most people are against the vig claim, but if I were a vig then I would certainly claim once I decided to use my shot. In a perfect world, analysis would be able to save you, but when there is a hard clue against you, the mafia will surely be pushing hard to pin the lynch against you. Yes, it leaves room for a fake claim, but if a scum is willing to risk all that extra attention, then go right ahead.
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January 30 2011 01:50 GMT
#1148
On January 30 2011 10:35 Coagulation wrote:
if i die kill CubEdIn and zerroth


Err nice job calling out the mason? o.O
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#1149
On January 30 2011 10:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 10:35 Coagulation wrote:
if i die kill CubEdIn and zerroth


Err nice job calling out the mason? o.O


Or are you refering to because they voted for you?
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January 30 2011 02:12 GMT
#1153
That was the first thing that came to mind when he said you two should die as if he role claimed or something. I didn't realize you two had votes on him until afterward.
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#1154
On January 30 2011 11:12 kitaman27 wrote:
That was the first thing that came to mind when he said you two should die as if he role claimed or something. I didn't realize you two had votes on him until afterward.


Opps, that was in response to zerroth.

Cool only one night death.
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January 30 2011 02:58 GMT
#1192
At least the night post basically confirms the existence of a serial killer without us having to check it with the census. I'll try to take a look at the clues later tonight.
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January 30 2011 04:15 GMT
#1215
On January 30 2011 13:09 Coagulation wrote:
blocked you say?
Kinda like they do in football?
STEELers


Or there is always the man whose body is made of steel.
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January 30 2011 07:55 GMT
#1225
On January 30 2011 16:55 d3_crescentia wrote:
Sorry for crapping out on you guys, but when my crap is full of blood I think my priorities should be elsewhere. Thanks mafia for killing me; one less thing to worry about. GL town.


At least you were a tasty meal!
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January 30 2011 07:59 GMT
#1226
By the way, is anyone going to claim taking the hit? Unless the mafia had only 1 kp from the start, there shouldn't have been a kp reduction last night if kavdragon speaks the truth about the mafia count. It is kinda unsettling that the mafia hasn't attempted to cast doubt upon our mayor. Well, besides bum.
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January 30 2011 08:39 GMT
#1229
On January 30 2011 17:32 Coagulation wrote:
if you dont want to vote jackal at least vote for beneather.


So now cube, zerroth, jackal, and beneather are scum?
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January 30 2011 08:54 GMT
#1231
On January 30 2011 17:49 Coagulation wrote:
Yep

theres room for 1 more

Didnt you vote off ROL?

......?


Pretty impressive that you can nail the entire team. Maybe I did vote ROL, but at least I committed to my vote rather than abstaining.
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January 30 2011 20:33 GMT
#1269
Another possibility is that the mafia doubled up on their hit. I'm not sure if that would reduce the clues against them or not. If you were hit, you should claim. Not saying anything makes the mafia think you are a SK, which will probably end up getting you lynched down the line.

Here is another look at the clues against Nemesis.

Nemesis
Lee Young Ho fighting! (flash)


Nemesis
Steel is my body


On January 30 2011 11:11 Node wrote:
flashes of steel rising


On January 27 2011 11:01 Node wrote:
And then the flash of steel from real guns


Flash of steel is repeated twice in the post. I doubt the mods would purposely repeated a clue we were discussing if it was a red herring.

-------------------------------


Some nights I thirst for real blood
For real knives
For real cries
And then the flash of steel from real guns
In real life
Really fills my mind


Reality Marble reference in profile

------------------------------------------

Nemesis
I have created over a thousand blades.
So as I pray, 'Unlimited Blade Works'."


Wikipedia reference of "unlimited blade works"
allowing Archer to reconstruct any bladed weapon merely by seeing it. Furthermore, his tracing allows him to inherit the combat skills of those who previously used his weapon, granting him instant proficiency with whatever he traces.


On January 30 2011 11:11 Node wrote:
The man masterfully handled his instruments, hands moving at a blur, flashes of steel rising and falling, leaving perfectly sized morsels behind.


--------------------------

On January 27 2011 11:01 Node wrote:
only a hand-length away...


Nemesis
Yet, these hands will never hold anything.


-------------------------------------
Nemesis
Unknown to death.
Nor known to life.


On January 30 2011 11:11 Node wrote:
We never found the chef afterwards.


-------------------------------------

I'm not sure how "Steel" and "black" are harder evidence against jackal than all these are against nemesis.

Now take a look at the series of events it took to save Nemesis the previous lynch:

On January 29 2011 10:28 Coagulation wrote:
##unvote Nemesis

##Vote zerroth


On January 29 2011 11:20 Nemesis wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote RebirthofLegend


On January 29 2011 11:31 CubEdIn wrote:
##unvote Nemesis
##Vote CubEdIn


On January 29 2011 11:51 darmousseh wrote:
##Unvote nemesis
##Vote RebirthofLegend


Three votes came off him right before the end to barely save him.
If Nemesis was green, wouldn't the mafia continue to push his case, rather than give him a free pass for the day?
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January 30 2011 21:20 GMT
#1277
On January 31 2011 06:19 Kavdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 06:16 GMarshal wrote:
My apologies for disappearing for almost two days, my computer was broken and I was unable to get online, (on the bright side, new graphics card an ram), I'll catch up with the thread ASAP, but for now I wanted to point out that I was saved from a hit last night. That is all until I catch up with the thread


Lol, and the missing hit finally shows up.



And possibly the reason the SK hit wasn't sent in :p
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#1304
On January 31 2011 08:42 Nemesis wrote:
I'm not even going to bother arguing anymore as I think it is pretty obvious you are red at this point.

It's time to discuss next day's target then, while waiting for jackal to be lynched.


Getting a bit ahead of ourselves, aren't we?
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#1318
On January 31 2011 11:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Nemesis: I still think he's an SK. But it's just usually lurker posting and these clues that make me think so. Now hes a lot more active with his name in the light, which isnt a good comparison for his sake. If we want to drop the KP to a greater extent, he's the way to go. If we are looking for mafia, he's too self-oriented to really plop a scum sticker on.


I find it hard to believe that a town could so readily differentiate between a mafia and SK. Both will lurk and the clues won't tell the difference. Calling someone a SK is more of a mafia tactic to either cast suspicion upon a town or divert the lynch from one of their own. If your vote is on jackal based on the fact that he is not a bodyguard, then why not go against someone you are pretty sure is anti-town in Nemesis.


On January 31 2011 11:31 Jackal58 wrote:
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On January 31 2011 11:29 Kenpachi wrote:
you could still be SK from what your saying o_O

Nemesis is the sk
I'm blue.


Err, another blue claim? Guess it already worked for Coag since he is still around. (Shouldn't have have gotten popped during the night?)

Since you are already claiming, would going into role specifics be something that could save you?
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kitaman27 *
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January 31 2011 02:58 GMT
#1323
On January 31 2011 11:55 Jackal58 wrote:
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On January 31 2011 11:53 Nemesis wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:46 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:42 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Nemesis: I still think he's an SK. But it's just usually lurker posting and these clues that make me think so. Now hes a lot more active with his name in the light, which isnt a good comparison for his sake. If we want to drop the KP to a greater extent, he's the way to go. If we are looking for mafia, he's too self-oriented to really plop a scum sticker on.


I find it hard to believe that a town could so readily differentiate between a mafia and SK. Both will lurk and the clues won't tell the difference. Calling someone a SK is more of a mafia tactic to either cast suspicion upon a town or divert the lynch from one of their own. If your vote is on jackal based on the fact that he is not a bodyguard, then why not go against someone you are pretty sure is anti-town in Nemesis.


On January 31 2011 11:31 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:29 Kenpachi wrote:
you could still be SK from what your saying o_O

Nemesis is the sk
I'm blue.


Err, another blue claim? Guess it already worked for Coag since he is still around. (Shouldn't have have gotten popped during the night?)

Since you are already claiming, would going into role specifics be something that could save you?

Clues fit Nemesis. Nobody defended him on day 1. Ergo SK

I'm Veteran.
But you won't know that til I'm dead. What you will know is I'm town when the next census comes back 5. The only thing blue on Coag is his balls.

If you are a veteran, then you are the worst veteran ever. Vet's job is to take hits, and with your spammy posting which does not contribute anything, there was no way in hell you are going to take hits.

Nice blue claim to try and save your ass.

I'm not responding to you anymore scum.


Can you display in some way what strategy you used to try and draw a hit?
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kitaman27 *
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January 31 2011 03:34 GMT
#1336
On January 31 2011 12:32 LunarDestiny wrote:
I am going to analyze LSB, the inspector here.

We know Mini Mafia V starts after XXXVI.

Lets say, Jackal IS mafia. Do you think LSB will be "HERP DERP. Lets make him mafia in my game as well."

I do not think so.


Scum teams are RNG o.O

On January 31 2011 12:26 Kavdragon wrote:
There is a bandwagon on Jackal. Almost no one else has votes on them. Doesn't this raise flags for anyone?


Still 24 hours remaining. Any suggestions for alternate candidates?

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kitaman27 *
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January 31 2011 03:44 GMT
#1343
On January 31 2011 12:39 Impervious wrote:
It's raising red flags to me as well.....

Options are Nemesis and Jackal atm, because of the clues. Beneather is a bodyguard, so we really shouldn't be lynching him yet, regardless of his role.....

Unless I've missed something.....

Why not lynch one now, and get the other tomorrow?


If it raises red flags, why would you want both lynched? That doesn't make sense.
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kitaman27 *
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January 31 2011 04:19 GMT
#1352
On January 31 2011 13:17 Nemesis wrote:
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On January 31 2011 13:14 Coagulation wrote:
On January 31 2011 13:09 Nemesis wrote:
On January 31 2011 12:26 Kavdragon wrote:
There is a bandwagon on Jackal. Almost no one else has votes on them. Doesn't this raise flags for anyone?

It's obvious that none of his teammates will risk themselves to defend him at this point. The best they can probably do is subtly try to divert the lynch to someone else.



your like being 1000x times more aggressive than a townie who was like 1 vote away from getting lynched yesterday.


That was because I had no clear suspect last day phase, but now I do.


Why wasn't jackal a suspect last day phase? Steel was a clue in the day 2 post, its not like its new.
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kitaman27 *
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January 31 2011 04:33 GMT
#1355
On January 31 2011 13:23 Nemesis wrote:
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On January 31 2011 13:19 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 31 2011 13:17 Nemesis wrote:
On January 31 2011 13:14 Coagulation wrote:
On January 31 2011 13:09 Nemesis wrote:
On January 31 2011 12:26 Kavdragon wrote:
There is a bandwagon on Jackal. Almost no one else has votes on them. Doesn't this raise flags for anyone?

It's obvious that none of his teammates will risk themselves to defend him at this point. The best they can probably do is subtly try to divert the lynch to someone else.



your like being 1000x times more aggressive than a townie who was like 1 vote away from getting lynched yesterday.


That was because I had no clear suspect last day phase, but now I do.


Why wasn't jackal a suspect last day phase? Steel was a clue in the day 2 post, its not like its new.

1. I wasn't really paying attention to jackal last day phase. And I haven't analyzed him until now.
2. I don't really rely on clues if you've been keeping up with my post. I rather prefer on good old behavioral analysis. I think that clues should only be used as a support argument, but not the main argument to use to lynch someone.


Well I guess what I'm asking is what triggered you to pay attention to him today, when he was not a suspect the day before. What was the behavioral difference between day two and day three?
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kitaman27 *
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January 31 2011 18:08 GMT
#1387
On February 01 2011 03:01 bumatlarge wrote:
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On February 01 2011 02:53 deconduo wrote:
Pretty confident he's scum, clues fit well and he had motive to kill d3. Its possible that d3 fingered a large portion of the mafia team, which would be the reason they killed him off. Theres not a whole lot of other reasons for it.

Looking back at d3's list of suspects:
Nemesis
Darmousseh
Beneather
kitaman27
Eti307
LunarDestiny
GMarshal

Of these I think Nemesis and Beneather are certain mafia. Lunar is high up on the list as well, he completely ingored beneather as a possibility for the dog meat clue and tunnelled me instead. Probably trying to divert attention from beneather.

Its hard to ignore the connections to the mayor as well, the 2 picked bodyguards and one of the biggest campaigners for him.

My thoughts are to lynch Nemesis today and for vig (if we have one) to target kav tonight. If he dies it confirms Beneather and GMarshal as scum.


:X Thats pretty ballsy. I think if both BGs were scum and mayor was not... wouldnt he be dead already? Well perhaps it might be better to wait for one to die... Still using a vig on the chance TWO people might be scum is a little risky. Better off lynching the more incriminated one, and seeing what he flips.


We also have to consider the fact that GMarshal claims to have taken a hit last night. So for GMarshal to be scum, either a SK would have had to hit him, which is unlikely since the SK hit wasn't sent in or GMarshal is lying about being hit, which would mean a kp is still uncounted for.

Alternately, a vig could shoot jackal. If he lives then his vet claim is confirmed, if he dies then he is probably lying. We could still run into a situation where jackal claims to take a hit or a scumbuddy fake claims as vig, which would present problems to this plan.
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kitaman27 *
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January 31 2011 20:23 GMT
#1430
On February 01 2011 05:10 Kavdragon wrote:
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On February 01 2011 04:53 Barundar wrote:
On February 01 2011 04:30 Kavdragon wrote:
Also, I only implied this in that post, but I think that the mafia are busing Beneather so they can kill me.

And I think you are being paranoid. I have been suspecious of Beneather since his first real post, and now there is even clues to back it up. It seems like there is too strong of a resistance to push for a lynch now though, so I will try tomorrow instead. But if you are town, don't just discard him beceause you picked him as BG.


Sorry, I didn't mean that they were busing him, JUST to get at me. I agree that Beneather is scummy looking, and I think that the rest of the town is too, so it's not much of a loss to bus him.


I would like to know what the town thinks of my theory of the night actions, because If I'm right, then the clues are about the SK and a Vig. NOT mafia.


I'm not sure I follow. Do you have additional information we do not? What would make you think the second hit is a vig?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
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January 31 2011 20:33 GMT
#1431
Another thing to think about is do we believe that our day one lynch ON was scum? In a 31 man set-up, 6 scum wouldn't be unreasonable. If so, then there were several people who defended him to some extent before the lynch.

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On January 25 2011 12:17 papapanda wrote:
my thoughts are the first day clues are just an example of how the clue would be like for new players(like me:D) and are pointing towards people outside the game(like Qatol, LSB, Node...etc) In other words, not really relevent to ON?


On January 25 2011 12:52 bumatlarge wrote:
Day1 clues are always very general and abstract. I'd be very surprised if everything you are pinning on ON is actually all real clues


On January 25 2011 13:02 Nemesis wrote:
It's day 1, and I would rather not talk about clues. Clues are rather vague until we get the hang of it. It is just derailing the thread here.



Another thing that hasn't been brought up in a while was the day one clue for god that was in Italian. The fact that the mafia hasn't pushed that clue might mean it points to a scum.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 31 2011 23:55 GMT
#1461
Quick look at voting trends:

RebirthOfLeGenD: 7
Beneather
bumatlarge
LunarDestiny
kitaman27
Eti307
Nemesis
darmousseh

Jackal58: 9
Nemesis
Beneather
zerroth
darmousseh
Eti307
BrownBear
bumatlarge
Divinek
GMarshal

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 01 2011 01:00 GMT
#1473
Roethlisberger has far more entertaining references than Steel, like maybe Motorcycles or sexual assault :p
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 01 2011 01:54 GMT
#1493
On February 01 2011 10:52 Coagulation wrote:
if nemesis was actually town he would have roleclaimed at this point.


He already claimed green I believe.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 01 2011 03:56 GMT
#1506
I say check mafia again. Anything other than that would be pretty suspicious.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 02 2011 02:25 GMT
#1565
lol coag. Well done. <3
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 02 2011 02:28 GMT
#1567
Parting is such a sweet sorrow :o

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 02 2011 03:16 GMT
#1588
On February 02 2011 12:16 darmousseh wrote:
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On February 02 2011 12:13 GMarshal wrote:
Did you have to reveal that kitaman is a Medic? That puts him at risk, although if you are telling the truth we have to hang Lunar.


kita is dead.


But I live on in all of your hearts.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 11 2011 02:53 GMT
#2285
Yay town.

Thanks for hosting Node/LSB ^_^
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