TL Mafia XXXVI - Page 5

Yes, he's been looking pretty town now that he's started posting. What are your thoughts on the lynch?

Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD:
BrownBear is also extremely likely to be green imo.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184939&currentpage=48#944

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Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
Cool. I'm going to bed right away, but I'll be back tomorrow.

I wasn't really sure who to pick, as I haven't played with a mason set-up before.

I wanted to pick someone I was getting town vibes from, and you don't seem too scummy to me right now, but I'm still going to take anything you say with a grain of salt.

I also wanted to pick a semi-experienced player who I somewhat knew. You played in the last TL mafia, and picked out a fair number of mafia before you were killed.

My third criteria was someone who was somewhat active too, and you've at least been posting in the thread.

My choices after elimination of a bunch of other people were Meapack and you, and then I decided on you. Lucky too, considering what happened to Meapack.

So that's the short version of why I picked you. I didn't want to pick mayor right away either, so if you had won that it would have been someone else.

We also have a message board, but we don't really need that until there are more masons.

Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD:
lol there are two things I am very surprised about right now. That I am alive, and that I got mason'd. Sup wigglezzz? why did you choose me? Also I was roleblocked last night.

Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
Heyyyyy, buddy.

Ohh, well so much for keeping that secret.

Original Message From Kavdragon:
Oh excellent. In that case, yeah. Don't tell anyone.
And I think that the link to the board is given when you get the PM....Cause I got it..
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Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
Yeah, I don't plan on telling you who I'm inviting, but it automatically should tell you who gets added to the circle after it happens. We also have a message board, but I'm not planning on giving out the link until there are more masons, as mafia can spy on it.

Original Message From Kavdragon:
So...If you're ok with it, i can act as the mouth piece of the masons... So if you need to get anything out, then let me know. Btw, if you're totally convinced I'm town, (and I am..But....yeah.) then let me know who you are adding to the group. But I wouldn't let anyone else know who's in the group till it's too big to kill. Otherwise, don't tell me who you're inviting. (The advantage being that I can kill anyone who was let into the circle right before you die, the disadvantage is if I'm mafia...then your screwed. But really, if I'm mafia, masons are screwed anyways...)

Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
Awesome. I wonder if he'll claim being hit? Don't worry though, the other person in the circle was RoL >.> He's a little dead now though.

Original Message From Kavdragon:
Hey, I'd rather this not go beyond you for now.

I am a Medic. I protected GMarshal both nights. (I saved him last night)

Ok, was at school until a while ago. I'll be in the irc in the hours leading up to the lynch, you can find me there.

Original Message From Kavdragon:
Here's what's up:


The mafia's plans: (In my opinion)
The Mafia hit GMrshal last night, which means that the want to get at me. It's very likely that Beneather is scum, and they just need to get at GMarshal then pull off the hit. I think that they are willing to sack Beneather for me.

Deconduo (probaly also scum) called for a vig to hit me tonight. This is because they aren't sure if GMarshal is a SK or not. If he's not, then I've been unprotected this entire time. At worst they waste the vig hit.

Failing that, they have started to arose suspicion about me being mafia, so that they can lynch me if the above plans don't work.


My plans: (Hopefully)
I'm going to announce that I'm in contact with the Masons, and that a medic in that circle has claimed the protection that was given to GMarshal. (This medic's alignment is extremely reliable as he was invited before me(kav) and were he mafia, he would have had the chance to kill all members last night)

Since the we have a confirmed Mafia hit on GMarshal, he cannot be mafia. (There is still a small possibility that he's SK, but I really doubt that.)

Don't worry, all information that comes to me only goes one way.

What this is means is:

A. 3 medics, happy day!

B. You are lying, scum mayor, better go in a corner and cry now

C. BB is scum. I let scum in the circle, I fear for my life, dunno.

D. Bum is a liar/scum. Then he's trying to bring down LD for some reason, putting himself out there.

3 medics could possibly make sense though, as there is no role flip, and maybe there's a mininum amount of vets. With the low kp though, it does seem unlikely.

Original Message From Kavdragon:
Hey, in case he hasn't told you, BrownBear claims Medic.

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I am the other medic (assuming only 2 in this setup). My night actions so far:

Night 1: Protected GMarshal, he didn't die.
Night 2: Protected Barundar, got roleblocked, didn't matter (this was a gut feeling more than anything, I think he might be blue)
Night 3: Decided bodyguards were more important, protected GMarshal again.
Tonight: Going to protect bum for sure. The longer he lives, the better shot we have at succeeding.


This is pretty DANG big news. Please don't tell him that I am the other medic. The chances of there being three medics are not very good, so it's likely that BB or Bum are lying, possibly both. Hopefully we can catch one of them.

But yeah. Please don't let him know that I'm a medic. The possibility that he's scum is too great imo. (Also, I guess this also throws me into the suspect light, but I would hope that my actions (and all masons not dying) would convince you that I am indeed telling the truth.)

K.

By the way, I'm treating BB as scum, but I do think he's town. Medic is a dumb thing for mafia to claim, and his play doesn't raise any flags. I don't think that you know if you were protected, unless you get hit, but feel free to check with the hosts.

Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
Well you're notified if a medic protects you I think. So I'd get a message saying the medic protected me. I'll send him a PM asking what he thinks. I won't give him any specifics on who you're protecting though, just that he should do me.

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Original Message From Kavdragon:
Hmm. I've never played with masons before, and I don't know general strategy, but just thinking about it, I would say that they want to kill you this game.

The biggest advantage they have is the ability to communicate and share information. They don't want to let the town in on that. If this were a private board that all masons could see, then yes, they would probably want to spy on it. But as it is, me and you have private conversations without brownbear knowing. That's dangerous to the Mafia.

The other important thing is that you are a confirmed townie, so we can all put our information into you, without fear. That means that you hold more information than anyone else right now, and that information will become increasingly useful as the game progresses. For this reason we NEED to make sure you surive.

Having brownbear protect you wouldn't confirm him as town, unless you are hit while he's protecting you. However, if he's protecting you it doesn't matter. If you die, then he's lying. There's no reason for mafia to stack hits on you, so there's no way you would die if he's actually a medic. If he's mafia then the mafia can't hit you because it would show BB for his true colors. So either way, you're protected.

So, yeah. The more I think about it, the more I like BB protecting you (You are important whether you like it or not) and me protecting GMarshal. Ask BB what he thinks.

Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
That could work, and would also confirm BB as town.

Question though, do mafia normally want to target the mason? Or is it more of a game by game thing. I always thought they might want to keep the mason to be able to monitor people and fish for information in PM, or am I wrong?

Original Message From Kavdragon:
Hey, I've role claimed to him. I'm not positive that he's town, but I'll be making it public soon, so i thought I might as well fish for responses and get a conversation going. Hopefully he's town, or he slips up in PM. In either case we need to figure out what to do with our protection.

Assumeing he's scum, like we should, we need to have me protect the more important of two people. I'm in favor of protecting GMarshal, and having BB protect you. I haven't had a lot of time to think about it, so I'd love to hear your opinion on this.

ounds good to me. I will send that action in unless the situation changes.

Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
So me and Kav were talking earlier. What we think for the next night, is that Kav will protect his target, and we'll get you to protect me.

This is for a couple reasons. Firstly, it would confirm you as town or scum.

If I'm protected, we'll know it was you and that you're town.
If I die, Kav will be able to tell you're scum for sure. There's no reason for mafia to stack hits on me either, so that isn't an excuse.

This is also to keep the mason alive and give me another night of recruiting.

What do you think? Give back your thoughts to us.

Will do.

Original Message From Kavdragon:
Hey, GMarshal wouldn't be a bad one to have in the circle, but I'll leave it up to you.

I've asked BB to protect you, and I'll be protecting GMarshal.

Well I was getting a town vibe out of you haha. I actually had you picked before you suspected me.

Original Message From Barundar:
Your the mason? Bold to recruit me while I suspect you!

I'm green.