TL Mafia XXXVI - Page 4

On January 25 2011 12:40 LSB wrote:
All right. After a bit of reexaming of how the clues are going, I'll say these things. Please ignore all other posts.

Definitive Clues Post
Clues point to people with KP. This means Mafia, SK, and Vig.
Due to fairness. We cannot say much about day 1, besides the fact that there are clues. Plural.
For future days, for every kill that will occur there will be a clue pointing to the killer.

On January 28 2011 04:51 CubEdIn wrote:
That being said, I am 90% sure that SiNquity is TOWN.
Reasoning: He claimed he was hit.
Scenarios:
a) He is mafia.
He would only claim he was hit if he was mafia in order to influence what the town thinks about mafia KP. This doesn't make much sense, since mafia wouldn't know about SK kp anyway. And even if they do manage to make town believe mafia has one more kp than they do, what good does it do? It's better (imo) for mafia to try to fake LESS kp not more.

b) He is SK
Claiming he was hit would be the dumbest thing to do in this scenario. If you are informed you took a hit, then you can just lay low and see if Mafia keeps trying to kill you (absorb KPs). If you see someone try to out you, then you know that that someone is most likely mafia (and pissed that he can't kill you), so you just take him out the next night. Town won't even know who was the mafia that died anyway.
By saying "oh, I've been hit" it only puts you in the spotlight for the town. If you don't die later on, they'll wonder why (and assume you are SK, or red). You don't need medics, you just need to not-get-lynched, and that's best done by laying low. So he's most likely not SK either.

c) He is town
This makes most sense. Since he "took a hit" but didn't die, most chances are that he's vet. I don't want him to claim or anything, and I don't want doctors that might have been on him claim either. It's good that you did protect him, and he may be a nice target for protection later on.
The only downside to this is that he should have been silent about this and see if someone tries to pull something from him, thus revealing themselves, but since it's out there already, we can safely assume that we have one confirmed town.

On January 28 2011 09:09 darmousseh wrote:
There seem to be a lot of people who are not posting anything. Are people always this inactive?

On January 28 2011 09:12 LunarDestiny wrote:

Give me a list and I'll try to tell you.

On January 28 2011 13:20 GMarshal wrote:
@LunarDestiny: I think that the names wouldn't be clues because its too evident, unless their profiles are otherwise bare, I suspect that the mods would make us work harder for results, this is why I think the RoL and Nemesis clue analysis both have merits, because they aren't immediately evident, and actually required work to uncover.

On January 28 2011 13:56 Impervious wrote:
Somehow, I don't feel the need to spam up this thread like I did in the last mafia game I played in (seeing as this one is far more active). All of a sudden, I'm "under active"?

lol. Great reasoning there LunarDestiny.

On January 28 2011 13:56 Impervious wrote:
Somehow, I don't feel the need to spam up this thread like I did in the last mafia game I played in (seeing as this one is far more active). All of a sudden, I'm "under active"?

lol. Great reasoning there LunarDestiny.

On January 29 2011 03:56 Kavdragon wrote:
Just a reminder, the "all" function will disappear soon, so if you like searching through everything like me, you'll probably want to save the page in the near future.

Here is how we counter this. Everyone fucking analyze everything. Do not EVER let one person do all the work, to win this game the town has to keep analyzing. Everyone has to analyze and we have to decide what has the most merit as a collective. If you have a few people doing analysis we will lose in this game faster and harder then in any other set up. Seriously guys. This isn't a fucking boot camp, this isn't some let us baby you set up. In this set up if you are lazy, if you fuck up, you lose us the game. This game requires an effort from EVERY townie to actually win and fuck if we get a mafia mayor then we are fucked. If any single person seems to be trying to take control of the town and who we lynch that is suspicious because channeling our lynches on the thoughts of one person who we can't prove there worth is going to make us die.

also you don't get it. A decent mafia team will manipulate the masses opinion against each other, while the town is shrouded in doubt the mafia knows what they want to do and don't hesitate to do it. By not acknowledging the mafia's pull with town you are basically saying that whatever the majorities opinion is is correct, which is stupid. Just because most people want something to be done doesn't mean its the right thing to do. The more people you involve in a decision the more likely you are to fuck it up. To use a real world example to show you how the majority doesn't do what is right you need to only look at gay marriage rights in the united states. When left to a majority vote in California it failed, because the majority of people are stupid and their opinions shouldn't be taken into account.

You shouldn't say what does the majority want, you should what is right, and by voting me you can accomplish that.

VOTE ROL!

On January 29 2011 07:38 Nemesis wrote:

Yet that still doesn't give your reason for voting me.

On January 29 2011 07:43 LunarDestiny wrote:

bumatlarge did a huge analysis on you. I don't think you have yet to respond to it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184939&currentpage=44#868

On January 29 2011 13:00 Nemesis wrote:

Something to note is that is that mr.wiggles suddenly changed his vote from abstaining to me when RoL was in danger of being lynched.

Looking back at his post, he hasn't made any mentions of being suspicious of me. The only reason I can think of for his last minute change of vote is to save RoL. So if RoL flips scum, I would take a good look at this guy. His post are mostly fluff and he doesn't really take a position on anything.

I suggest Mr. Wiggles for dt check/vigi hit.

On January 29 2011 13:05 Kavdragon wrote:
We won't know if he flips red. We can only know if he flips green. (If there are 5 mafia left tonight)