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On January 31 2011 11:29 Kenpachi wrote:
you could still be SK from what your saying o_O
Nemesis is the sk
I'm blue.
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Ya I was had in 10 minutes.
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On January 31 2011 11:39 LSB wrote:Can I post my PMs with you? Pretty please?
From Mini mafia? Sure. I don't mind looking like a doof. :p
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On January 31 2011 11:42 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 11:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Nemesis: I still think he's an SK. But it's just usually lurker posting and these clues that make me think so. Now hes a lot more active with his name in the light, which isnt a good comparison for his sake. If we want to drop the KP to a greater extent, he's the way to go. If we are looking for mafia, he's too self-oriented to really plop a scum sticker on. I find it hard to believe that a town could so readily differentiate between a mafia and SK. Both will lurk and the clues won't tell the difference. Calling someone a SK is more of a mafia tactic to either cast suspicion upon a town or divert the lynch from one of their own. If your vote is on jackal based on the fact that he is not a bodyguard, then why not go against someone you are pretty sure is anti-town in Nemesis. Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 11:31 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:29 Kenpachi wrote:
you could still be SK from what your saying o_O Nemesis is the sk I'm blue. Err, another blue claim? Guess it already worked for Coag since he is still around. (Shouldn't have have gotten popped during the night?) Since you are already claiming, would going into role specifics be something that could save you?
Clues fit Nemesis. Nobody defended him on day 1. Ergo SK
I'm Veteran.
But you won't know that til I'm dead. What you will know is I'm town when the next census comes back 5. The only thing blue on Coag is his balls.
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On January 31 2011 11:53 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 11:46 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:42 kitaman27 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Nemesis: I still think he's an SK. But it's just usually lurker posting and these clues that make me think so. Now hes a lot more active with his name in the light, which isnt a good comparison for his sake. If we want to drop the KP to a greater extent, he's the way to go. If we are looking for mafia, he's too self-oriented to really plop a scum sticker on. I find it hard to believe that a town could so readily differentiate between a mafia and SK. Both will lurk and the clues won't tell the difference. Calling someone a SK is more of a mafia tactic to either cast suspicion upon a town or divert the lynch from one of their own. If your vote is on jackal based on the fact that he is not a bodyguard, then why not go against someone you are pretty sure is anti-town in Nemesis. On January 31 2011 11:31 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:29 Kenpachi wrote:
you could still be SK from what your saying o_O Nemesis is the sk I'm blue. Err, another blue claim? Guess it already worked for Coag since he is still around. (Shouldn't have have gotten popped during the night?) Since you are already claiming, would going into role specifics be something that could save you? Clues fit Nemesis. Nobody defended him on day 1. Ergo SK I'm Veteran. But you won't know that til I'm dead. What you will know is I'm town when the next census comes back 5. The only thing blue on Coag is his balls. If you are a veteran, then you are the worst veteran ever. Vet's job is to take hits, and with your spammy posting which does not contribute anything, there was no way in hell you are going to take hits. Nice blue claim to try and save your ass.
I'm not responding to you anymore scum.
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On January 31 2011 11:58 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 11:55 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:53 Nemesis wrote:On January 31 2011 11:46 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:42 kitaman27 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Nemesis: I still think he's an SK. But it's just usually lurker posting and these clues that make me think so. Now hes a lot more active with his name in the light, which isnt a good comparison for his sake. If we want to drop the KP to a greater extent, he's the way to go. If we are looking for mafia, he's too self-oriented to really plop a scum sticker on. I find it hard to believe that a town could so readily differentiate between a mafia and SK. Both will lurk and the clues won't tell the difference. Calling someone a SK is more of a mafia tactic to either cast suspicion upon a town or divert the lynch from one of their own. If your vote is on jackal based on the fact that he is not a bodyguard, then why not go against someone you are pretty sure is anti-town in Nemesis. On January 31 2011 11:31 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:29 Kenpachi wrote:
you could still be SK from what your saying o_O Nemesis is the sk I'm blue. Err, another blue claim? Guess it already worked for Coag since he is still around. (Shouldn't have have gotten popped during the night?) Since you are already claiming, would going into role specifics be something that could save you? Clues fit Nemesis. Nobody defended him on day 1. Ergo SK I'm Veteran. But you won't know that til I'm dead. What you will know is I'm town when the next census comes back 5. The only thing blue on Coag is his balls. If you are a veteran, then you are the worst veteran ever. Vet's job is to take hits, and with your spammy posting which does not contribute anything, there was no way in hell you are going to take hits. Nice blue claim to try and save your ass. I'm not responding to you anymore scum. Can you display in some way what strategy you used to try and draw a hit?
No I can't I haven't attempted to get hit.
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On January 31 2011 12:11 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 12:00 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:58 kitaman27 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:55 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:53 Nemesis wrote:On January 31 2011 11:46 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:42 kitaman27 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Nemesis: I still think he's an SK. But it's just usually lurker posting and these clues that make me think so. Now hes a lot more active with his name in the light, which isnt a good comparison for his sake. If we want to drop the KP to a greater extent, he's the way to go. If we are looking for mafia, he's too self-oriented to really plop a scum sticker on. I find it hard to believe that a town could so readily differentiate between a mafia and SK. Both will lurk and the clues won't tell the difference. Calling someone a SK is more of a mafia tactic to either cast suspicion upon a town or divert the lynch from one of their own. If your vote is on jackal based on the fact that he is not a bodyguard, then why not go against someone you are pretty sure is anti-town in Nemesis. On January 31 2011 11:31 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:29 Kenpachi wrote:
you could still be SK from what your saying o_O Nemesis is the sk I'm blue. Err, another blue claim? Guess it already worked for Coag since he is still around. (Shouldn't have have gotten popped during the night?) Since you are already claiming, would going into role specifics be something that could save you? Clues fit Nemesis. Nobody defended him on day 1. Ergo SK I'm Veteran. But you won't know that til I'm dead. What you will know is I'm town when the next census comes back 5. The only thing blue on Coag is his balls. If you are a veteran, then you are the worst veteran ever. Vet's job is to take hits, and with your spammy posting which does not contribute anything, there was no way in hell you are going to take hits. Nice blue claim to try and save your ass. I'm not responding to you anymore scum. Can you display in some way what strategy you used to try and draw a hit? No I can't I haven't attempted to get hit. then why would you claim your role -_- it defeats the entire purpose of it
Because that option never occurred to me. I'm new at this and have a wicked habit of dying night one. First time I was something other than a vanilla townie.
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Because claiming it now is my only way of keeping town from making another mislynch.
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On January 31 2011 12:17 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 12:13 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 12:11 Divinek wrote:On January 31 2011 12:00 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:58 kitaman27 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:55 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:53 Nemesis wrote:On January 31 2011 11:46 Jackal58 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:42 kitaman27 wrote:On January 31 2011 11:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Nemesis: I still think he's an SK. But it's just usually lurker posting and these clues that make me think so. Now hes a lot more active with his name in the light, which isnt a good comparison for his sake. If we want to drop the KP to a greater extent, he's the way to go. If we are looking for mafia, he's too self-oriented to really plop a scum sticker on. I find it hard to believe that a town could so readily differentiate between a mafia and SK. Both will lurk and the clues won't tell the difference. Calling someone a SK is more of a mafia tactic to either cast suspicion upon a town or divert the lynch from one of their own. If your vote is on jackal based on the fact that he is not a bodyguard, then why not go against someone you are pretty sure is anti-town in Nemesis. On January 31 2011 11:31 Jackal58 wrote:
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Nemesis is the sk
I'm blue. Err, another blue claim? Guess it already worked for Coag since he is still around. (Shouldn't have have gotten popped during the night?) Since you are already claiming, would going into role specifics be something that could save you? Clues fit Nemesis. Nobody defended him on day 1. Ergo SK I'm Veteran. But you won't know that til I'm dead. What you will know is I'm town when the next census comes back 5. The only thing blue on Coag is his balls. If you are a veteran, then you are the worst veteran ever. Vet's job is to take hits, and with your spammy posting which does not contribute anything, there was no way in hell you are going to take hits. Nice blue claim to try and save your ass. I'm not responding to you anymore scum. Can you display in some way what strategy you used to try and draw a hit? No I can't I haven't attempted to get hit. then why would you claim your role -_- it defeats the entire purpose of it Because that option never occurred to me. I'm new at this and have a wicked habit of dying night one. First time I was something other than a vanilla townie. It seems to me someone who actually had the role of veteran would take the few seconds back to understand the purpose of their role(in reality they'd probably think about it alot since y'know it's their role). So that seems to leave you as being the person who is not actually a veteran
Seems to me I don't really give a shit what you think. The only way I can prove anything is by dying. I'd prefer to have that happen at night.
Nemesis is loving this.
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On January 31 2011 12:20 LunarDestiny wrote:What is this LSB? The bold part... tell me that you modify that part and both kav and I aren't in the original pm. Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 11:05 LSB wrote:Conversation with Jackel58 + Show Spoiler +Original Message From Jackal58: Well it's not like I'm going to say it.  Show nested quote +Original Message From LSB: All it takes is one word and you are dead. OPEC Original Message From Jackal58: They ain't that smart man Original Message From LSB: It is so so so connected, and once people figure out the connection, you're dead. I'm worried. Original Message From Jackal58: I just figured out the connection. Dude you're brutal in your vagaries. :p Original Message From LSB:
You are Mafia
Your goal is to eliminate everyone else in the town. Your ability, as a group, is killing off whomever you decide on at night and knowing the role of each other player in the mafia. You may choose to kill nobody if you so choose. You MAY kill other mafia. As a whole, your KP is 1 throughout the whole game, so choose wisely!
Your Team is.
Kavdragon
LunarDestiny
Jackal58
Jackal58 is the one being mentioned in the day 1 post. My apologies if it is to obvious.
Good luck Oops
You weren't
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On January 31 2011 12:26 Kavdragon wrote:
There is a bandwagon on Jackal. Almost no one else has votes on them. Doesn't this raise flags for anyone?
It's got me quite alarmed. 
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I'm going to bed. I just wanna throw that out there before I get accused of lurking again.
NEMESIS!!!!
Just wanna throw that out there cause he only shows up when I post his name.
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On February 01 2011 03:51 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 03:21 Nemesis wrote:On February 01 2011 03:13 deconduo wrote:On February 01 2011 03:06 Nemesis wrote:On February 01 2011 02:53 deconduo wrote:
Pretty confident he's scum, clues fit well and he had motive to kill d3. Its possible that d3 fingered a large portion of the mafia team, which would be the reason they killed him off. Theres not a whole lot of other reasons for it.
Looking back at d3's list of suspects:
Nemesis
Darmousseh
Beneather
kitaman27
Eti307
LunarDestiny
GMarshal
Of these I think Nemesis and Beneather are certain mafia. Lunar is high up on the list as well, he completely ingored beneather as a possibility for the dog meat clue and tunnelled me instead. Probably trying to divert attention from beneather.
Its hard to ignore the connections to the mayor as well, the 2 picked bodyguards and one of the biggest campaigners for him.
My thoughts are to lynch Nemesis today and for vig (if we have one) to target kav tonight. If he dies it confirms Beneather and GMarshal as scum.
You have some nice WIFOM there as your argument. Not a whole lot of reason to take out d3 other than he pointed scum? No one was even following d3's list at the time, and I doubt they anyone would follow it with how inactive he has been. Can't think of any other reason why mafia would kill d3? How about doing what you are doing now and framing the people he suspected? -In what way is that WIFOM? Its a pretty good idea to kill off someone who suspects your entire team. Obviously theres no proof of that being the reason he was killed, but its a good theory imo. On the other hand, your argument is WIFOM. -Nice chainsaw defense of beneather, I like how you completely ignored all the clues against him. I wasn't defending beneather, I was attacking your bad logic, and as I said before I don't care too much about clues. Yes, I know what I said is WIFOM, but what you said is also WIFOM, and I am pointing that out to you. I have just showed you how it is WIFOM by creating a probable scenario which contradicts your WIFOM situation. I am not going to let you bait me into an argument over WIFOM as I'm sure you would like to divert attention from important matters once again. I will however clarify my logic: -I feel that the clues point quite clearly towards beneather being the scum that killed d3. It is also much more likely that it was a mafia kill rather than an SK kill. -As d3 had already pointed out suspicions towards beneather, amongst others, this would be a good motive for the kill. OBVIOUSLY only the killer (or his team) knows the exact reasoning behind making a kill, however it does no harm to speculate especially on an unexpected kill. -I know that all the times I've been mafia, I've always tried to kill people who get too close to working out who we are. You can see I was thinking about this early when I looked over at who had been killed so far. This was before I suspected Beneather at all. Finally, lets take a look at the people who lynched RoL and saved Nemesis on day 2: bumatlarge LunarDestiny Nemesis darmousseh Beneather kitaman27 Eti307 kavdragon (switched) Notice any similarities?
Yes I do.
Nemesis
Impervious
Coagulation
Beneather
LunarDestiny
darmousseh
From this post.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7779204
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On February 01 2011 04:53 Barundar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 04:30 Kavdragon wrote:
Also, I only implied this in that post, but I think that the mafia are busing Beneather so they can kill me. And I think you are being paranoid. I have been suspecious of Beneather since his first real post, and now there is even clues to back it up. It seems like there is too strong of a resistance to push for a lynch now though, so I will try tomorrow instead. But if you are town, don't just discard him beceause you picked him as BG. For today's targets: Jackal: I still want you to answer my questions regarding the vet discussion. Deconduo: Ballsy plan suggestions are big plusses in my book. The plan was kinda scummy though, would make it easy to pick off mayor. Nemesis: I never thought he was scum, but at this point we will be strugling killing anyone else, any day, beceause of the suspecions against him. Hence we can kill him off.
Sorry I missed it. I'm at work right now and my time is limited. I'll answer when I get home tonight and can go through the thread.
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On February 01 2011 09:07 darmousseh wrote:
11-10 for nemesis. If people really want to get rid of nemesis tonight then that's fine by me since I think he's an SK. I will set it in stone. Tomorrow we should look at jackal58 closer.
Yes you should. But you and your scumbuddies are going to stack your hits on me. I'm ok with that.
To Barundar- I found your question and I decided at the time unless another vet claimed it wasn't in towns or my best interest to do so either.
I actually PMed Flamewheel regarding that scenario. He gave me pros and cons for claiming. I used his advice and my own limited experience at this to not claim. Claiming blue is a death wish. I thought my "nightlife" would be better served later in the game to take a random hit.
Nemesis
darmousseh
Beneather
Impervious
Brownbear
Divinek
All are most likely scum team or SK
Of Nemesis and Beneather one is the SK.
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I am not nor would I ask Flamewheel to confirm or deny any PMs I had with him in regards to anything.
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On February 01 2011 09:46 SiNiquity wrote:
Flashes of steel > steeler jersey. Sorry.
At the same time I don't trust Kenpachi a bit and he's dead set on Nemesis dying. Hmm. An hour to go...
The biggest issue with that connection is there are a shitpot of people in the game that have no idea who the Steelers are.
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On February 01 2011 09:56 SiNiquity wrote:
What?
Ignorant American. There are people in this game from countries all over the world.
Only an ignorant Americentric would assume the entire world follows our beloved game of football.
Or as many of them call it "hand egg"
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On February 01 2011 09:58 darmousseh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 09:54 Jackal58 wrote:On February 01 2011 09:46 SiNiquity wrote:
Flashes of steel > steeler jersey. Sorry.
At the same time I don't trust Kenpachi a bit and he's dead set on Nemesis dying. Hmm. An hour to go... The biggest issue with that connection is there are a shitpot of people in the game that have no idea who the Steelers are. Why are you still defending yourself if you are already safe from lynching today? (unless 3 people switch suddenly) If you aren't a suspect we won't find anything in the next set of clues so you should just let it go.
You mean "lurk" like you?
I am going to defend myself and town as long as I am able too.
Why do you want me to shut up?
Scum.
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