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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 26 2011 12:06 GMT
#740
On January 26 2011 20:57 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 14:33 LunarDestiny wrote:
But if Kav tells town about how many SK are there, it will help mafia as well.

If Kav only checks mafia every night, then it will only benefit town and SK. But I doubt SK threatens town more than mafia threatens town.

And how will that help mafia as well?

Mafia can already guess the number of SK's from the # of KP per night.

It will also tell them the # of vigis we have.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 26 2011 12:33 GMT
#743
On January 26 2011 21:12 CubEdIn wrote:
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On January 26 2011 21:06 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 26 2011 20:57 Nemesis wrote:
On January 26 2011 14:33 LunarDestiny wrote:
But if Kav tells town about how many SK are there, it will help mafia as well.

If Kav only checks mafia every night, then it will only benefit town and SK. But I doubt SK threatens town more than mafia threatens town.

And how will that help mafia as well?

Mafia can already guess the number of SK's from the # of KP per night.

It will also tell them the # of vigis we have.


That's not really an issue in this game.
Vigilantes get to fire a shot once per game.

That means that if Mafia doesn't hit a Vig before he fires, then it's useless to kill them afterwards, as they used up their power.

So yeah, they could maybe tell that a Vigilante did use their power, but it's useless information if you ask me.

My bad. I read that as once per night.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 26 2011 14:54 GMT
#748
If mason recruits scum do all in that circle die?
I've seen that set up in other games and wondered if that's a standard practice?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 26 2011 18:11 GMT
#758
On January 27 2011 01:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
If you have a role specific question please ask it in PM.

I had an ulterior motive. If it was set up that way would have been a good way to check alignment of our mayor and his bodyguards.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 27 2011 00:31 GMT
#771
On January 27 2011 09:04 kitaman27 wrote:
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On January 26 2011 09:29 bumatlarge wrote:
Considering there is a better chance of him being red, I guess I will. Though RoL should be more vocal. Alright RoL TIME TO WIN YOU TOWNIE.


Just curious, what indicated to you that Kavdragon was more likely scum than RoL. And since that was the case, why would you wait for someone suggesting RoL rather than voting him in the first place.

Thing is Kav started his campaign well before roles were passed out. If he is scum it's pure RNG. I'd be more concerned with the few that started to campaign after Day 1 post. Are you your brothers keeper?


Babies come from aisle 7 at WalMart. At least that's where my wife tells me ours came from.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 27 2011 01:09 GMT
#776
On January 27 2011 09:37 darmousseh wrote:
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On January 27 2011 09:31 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 27 2011 09:04 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 26 2011 09:29 bumatlarge wrote:
Considering there is a better chance of him being red, I guess I will. Though RoL should be more vocal. Alright RoL TIME TO WIN YOU TOWNIE.


Just curious, what indicated to you that Kavdragon was more likely scum than RoL. And since that was the case, why would you wait for someone suggesting RoL rather than voting him in the first place.

Thing is Kav started his campaign well before roles were passed out. If he is scum it's pure RNG. I'd be more concerned with the few that started to campaign after Day 1 post. Are you your brothers keeper?


Babies come from aisle 7 at WalMart. At least that's where my wife tells me ours came from.


I think it's time to move on past the kavdragon, ROL, bum mayor and election stuff. There simply isn't enough information to reveal anything except that bum changes his mind faster than a girl, says a few semi-contradictory like many girls and reacts emotionally to kavs accusations just like a girl.

Conclusion: Bum is a female, or an alien, or drunk.

I'm quite fluent in drunk speak. Bum is not drunk. Whether he is a female alien is irrelevant to the problem at hand.
You were one of the ones to attempt to mount a mayoral campaign. You're worthy of close observation.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 27 2011 02:05 GMT
#785
I'm already hung.




Working on clues.
I thought more than 2 would die.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 27 2011 13:52 GMT
#849
So that's 3. 2 mafia 1 SK?.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 27 2011 17:41 GMT
#863
On January 28 2011 02:16 darmousseh wrote:
I'm still really bothered with the quote from the story

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The noises inside are a mystery. The scampering in the bush, a deer? That blood-curdling scream, nothing an animal could make.


I feel like that is probably a clue, but I can't find anything in any profile. Also theres a bunch of stuff about noises. Anyone else have any luck?

Also
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Away from the campfire, away from the tents, away from the city. The thick, ancient trunks loom, the undisturbed bark hard as stone, the tangled roots cloying at uncareful limbs. No one knows what happens there

probably has some clue in it, but again no luck.


Other than that, we have like 33 hours until night. I'll try to see if these clues correspond to anything.

[image loading]
Fits don't it?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 27 2011 20:09 GMT
#872
With no PMs in the game that would require Mason to recruit SiNquity and a DT. Which would require DT claiming. Which would require 2 medics to keep the whole damn thing from falling apart.
It's doable but will require a gutsy dt assuming we have 2 medics.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 27 2011 20:11 GMT
#873
Scrap that. If the DT claims we don't need anything else except medic protection. And nobody knows how many of them we have.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 28 2011 13:52 GMT
#951
On January 28 2011 13:31 LunarDestiny wrote:
My input on activeness, totally my opinion. Version 1.01

Over active
Same
Under active
No color = don't know/not enough games with/forgot
BOLD = VERY

  1. Amber[LighT] (13)
  2. Beneather (13)
  3. BrownBear (31)
  4. bumatlarge (34)
  5. Coagulation (9)
  6. CubEdIn (26)
  7. darmousseh (48)
  8. Divinek (5)
  9. DoctorHelvetica (21) / d3_crescentia (4)
  10. Eti307 (4)
  11. GMarshal (22)
  12. ilovejonn (31)
  13. Impervious (13)
  14. Jackal58 (31)
  15. Kavdragon (96)
  16. Kenpachi (13)
  17. kitaman27 (38)
  18. LunarDestiny (66)
  19. Meapak_Ziphh (36)
  20. Mr. Wiggles (52)
  21. Mr.Zergling (7)
  22. Nemesis (19)
  23. Nfi (2) / Barundar (10)
  24. OriginalName (9)
  25. Pandain (9) / deconduo (4)
  26. papapanda (12)
  27. RebirthOfLeGenD (37)
  28. SiNiquity (20)
  29. TheAldo (6)
  30. tube (3)
  31. zerroth (10)
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What are you basing this on? If it's post counts from other games bear in mind that I've died on night 1 twice. Not sure this list provides anything other than a distraction.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 28 2011 19:40 GMT
#965
I haven't forgotten. I'm still quite undecided.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 28 2011 21:46 GMT
#976
On January 29 2011 06:38 BrownBear wrote:
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On January 29 2011 06:25 Coagulation wrote:
lets just lynch this coag dude and get him out of the way so town can focus on actually hunting scum


Jesus, if that's the attitude you're taking, why did you even bother signing up in the first place?

To hone his village idiot skills.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 00:37 GMT
#1025
On January 29 2011 07:52 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
There's clue analysis in Deconduo's post I quoted, stuff related to the scary movie and the thunder, lightning, rain, mostly stuff from the first day post.

If he avoids mod kill I think he's an excellent candidate for our next lynch. Not today's but tomorrow.

To you guys saying to use analysis instead of clues I say horsepucky. This game is set up in a manner that allows scum to play exactly as town. No flips allows them even more anonymity. Clues are all we can really rely on atm.
Nemesis and Mr Zergling are the two best fits to what we have atm. I'm guessing one of them is SK.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 04:42 GMT
#1083
On January 29 2011 13:27 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
-_-; seriously?

Seems to be a recurring theme with you,

WTF is with the modkills. This shit ain't that hard.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 29 2011 20:08 GMT
#1110
On January 30 2011 03:45 Kavdragon wrote:
Can someone explain to me why having the Vig claim before, or after is useful? Why does he need to claim at all?

I see no point in it. It would actually be a good vehicle for an SK to try to hide behind. Especially late in the game.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2011 00:32 GMT
#1134
On January 30 2011 08:25 Kavdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 07:51 BrownBear wrote:
On January 30 2011 07:50 Kavdragon wrote:
On January 30 2011 07:37 d3_crescentia wrote:
I find it ridiculous that you don't take my illness seriously.


I find it ridiculous that you don't take this game seriously.

Don't sign up/replace if you are sick, and won't be able to post.


Dude, chill. He probably didn't know he was going to get sick when he signed up as a replacement.


You're right. D3, I apologize for my flippant comment.


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On January 30 2011 07:37 d3_crescentia wrote:
Given that your reads are usually incorrect, I'd say the probability that you're red is low, but not low enough for me to discount you.

Would you mind explaining this sentance? Are you basing the accuracy of my reads off of this game or my past games? Do you know something about my "reads" this game that we don't? Also, why would me being NOT red be a reason for you to discount me?


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WHY lynch RoL when he was likely town and the strongest player we have? Then again that's been the most ridiculous pattern of towns in general - lynch RoL, find out he's town and then get fucked in the ass. When he hasn't been town he's generally been less lazy, but whatever - this isn't about him.

Agreed. RoL should NOT have been lynched today. I originally voted that, but thought better of it and asked the town to put off lynching him till tomorrow at the earliest.

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Speaking of patterns - it's been town pattern to let the other dude off after Day 1 lynch and not pay attention to him until late game again. Happened with brocket last game; would've happened with Annul on Day 2 if there was no extended day. If we can see what he's doing you'll notice that he's hasn't said anything since he dodged the lynch. That's my concern now - he'll disappear now that he's no longer in danger.

A valid concern. I personally think that he's not mafia because his play reminds me of his previous town play, and because there weren't very many people defending him. (Something that he mafia can afford to do in this game to a much greater extent than other games) however, I am not the entire town, and they seemed to think that he was very suspicious. Why don't you keep an eye on him, and make sure he doesn't fall off the board?

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If Nemesis dies, census is taken to check his alignment -> we start looking at his vote list. The only bad thing about this plan is wasting a vig shot on someone that should be dead anyway. Fact is that even when no one stepped up to actively defend him we ACTUALLY have bunch of dumb soft defends by GMarshal (who even said after some point "no one's defending him" and switched his vote to zergling) IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE THREAD. Soft defends are treacherous territory at any rate, so it doesn't really say anything about anyone... yet.

I many people in the town thought that he might be a SK, in which case the shot would be wasted. I think that he's best left as a lynch candidate, and not a vig candidate.

Show nested quote +

As for Ace/Ver - they basically confirmed that I made the right play as mafia last game, regardless of however disgusting I felt about doing so. It's lame when town kills itself out of inactivity, so if you think I'm inactive and worth a bullet then KILL me NOW.

Are you over your illness? If not, you might ask about getting a replacement. If you are better, you'd better be up to posting and contributing, cause I'm not happy with inactivity, and I WILL push for the death of any who lurk or go inactive.

If you're that sure of RoL why not ask for the number of SK we are dealing with in your census tonight? We know we started with 5 reds. Knowing how many Sk are amongst us is going to remove a lot of kp questions. I understand mafia would love to know this too but we have to get a number at some point.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2011 00:48 GMT
#1137
I hadn't considered the mod kills. Disregard.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 30 2011 02:32 GMT
#1169
On January 30 2011 11:24 Coagulation wrote:
the only clue i could find
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He looked up and saw a masked man with a blood-spattered black apron tied around his waist. The man masterfully handled his instruments, hands moving at a blur, flashes of steel rising and falling, leaving perfectly sized morsels behind. He lifted a finger to his mouth and sucked.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Jackal58

Steeler picture in profile

If that were the case d3's death would have been by cheese grater.

From Nemesis' profile:
From Nemesis' profile:
"I am the bone of my sword.
Steel is my body, and fire is my blood.
I have created over a thousand blades.
Unknown to death.
Nor known to life.
Have withstood pain to create many weapons.
Yet, these hands will never hold anything.
So as I pray, 'Unlimited Blade Works'."

Nemesis hasn't been here all day.
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