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Also, please stay caught up with the thread... just read new posts whenever you get the chance. Once you fall behind, it's much easier to just write the game off and go inactive. Let's not do that. I agree with the idea of lynching an inactive unless obvious scum turns up day one. If we had lynched our chosen inactive on day one in XXV (Brocket), we would have hit a red. Of course, you won't always get that lucky, but it's better than lynching an active townie. | ||
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On January 21 2011 04:27 LSB wrote: Abstaining is bad because it brings us closer to lylo (Assuming that the doctors don't make their protects) Hmm, what do you mean? Wouldn't abstaining mean it takes us longer to reach lylo? it'll take 4 deaths to reach lylo. If we lynch every day then we reach lylo after two days and two nights. If we abstain then we reach lylo after four days and four nights. Not that I'm advocating abstaining. But I'd think the problem with abstaining is that it hands the kills to the mafia instead of letting town get their turn. | ||
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[QUOTE]On January 21 2011 01:30 Barundar wrote: [quote]Shockeyy, you where laying really low in mafia xxxv, I hope to see more out of you in this game.[/QUOTE] Of course I was laying low seeing as all the active kids kept dying first, because everyone in that game was so dumb to realize who were the mafia either way. I was dumb as well, but hey it happens. That game actually has showed me a lot more that the way I played mafia back in the day has changed than the way we play it now. And Pandain, if you read the thread, I clearly state I can't post till I get out of work. I will try and post from my phone as much as possible, but that is such a pain in my ass. Either way, I will post some more when I do get home.[/QUOTE] You were green, why would you need to stay alive if you weren't actively posting. That's a really bad reason for 'laying low'. | ||
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On January 21 2011 05:19 GGQ wrote: You were green, why would you need to stay alive if you weren't actively posting. That's a really bad reason for 'laying low'. Fixed the quote problem | ||
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On January 21 2011 05:22 ShoCkeyy wrote: So we actually had a chance in the end to win as a town? But that didn't happen either way. How does that help you win as a town? Even if you survive to the endgame, you'll have no credibility because you haven't been active. | ||
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On January 21 2011 11:24 Pandain wrote: Because mafia will never go inactive. As for pressuring them.... For example, we can threaten to lynch people. When for 2 days in a row you only say "I'm busy", that's unnacceptable, and we lynch them. As of now though there is no one I would consider truly "inactive inactive." There really the only way to differentiate is by lynching them, such as soulfire and george clooney, who wouldn't talk even if pressured. But no one is doing that now. So for now, lynching "inactives" is not what we should be doing. You literally just finished XXV where two mafia were modkilled for inactivity... | ||
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On January 22 2011 02:08 Pandain wrote: And we don't want to be voting those who we modkill anyway, no? I got enough out of him, the point is to pressure as many people as possible in a limited amount of time. Speaking of which, why is chaoser still voting me since I've obviously spoken. And BC, I'm expecting alot out of you this game. You're certainly the most experienced one here, yet as of now have hardly said anything of real substance. Finally, I've decided that I don't think Shockkey is scum. He's playing his norm, in fact, even has contributed more with a semi analysis of Nemesis. I think Hesmyrr is a far better person to vote considering he has barely talked at all. Do you really think that's a relevant reply to what I was saying? You initial point was that we shouldn't lynch inactives because mafia are never inactive. I pointed out the undeniable fact that two mafia were inactive in the last big game, proving your point wrong. Now you are trying to say we don't want to lynch inactives because they will get modkilled (which might not even happen if they're careful enough to post once or twice and vote), and you're saying it as though that was your point all along. Maybe you just weren't keeping up with the logic, but this feels sketchy to me. Also, why so uncomfortable with having just one vote on you? Your play seems nervous to me. | ||
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On January 21 2011 19:32 Jackal58 wrote: Good morning all. So the debate rages on. I think it's now time to start attempting to identify lurkers/inactives rather than to continue debating whether or not it's wise to do so. We appear to have a clear consensus on the issue. Having everyone on board is not a requirement since the player with the most votes wins anyways. Shockeyy - Yes he may be at work. Yes he may be unable to post. Or he may be something else. In either case if he continues at his present rate of participation he is a detriment to us. BloodyC0bbler - Hello!!!! You're the worst of the bunch so far. GGQ - Your lips are moving but you're not really saying much. Yeah, I haven't done as much analysis as I would like, but honestly I could say the same thing about you. You've made a good number of posts, but almost every one is a one liner. The activity is good, but more content would be appreciated. | ||
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@LSB, I didn't have time before the deadline to explain why I thought ShocCeyy's defense was worse than anyone else's. It's too late now, but I can still explain if you want. And yes, I would like you to answer Pandain's post. | ||
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On January 23 2011 22:39 Jackal58 wrote: Yet you switched. Why couldn't we have a tie? At the point you posted this it was painfully obvious we were going to have a modkill. I'm just gonna keep sitting on you man. We have a 37% chance of lynching a red today. Unless we lynch you. Then it goes up to 100%. What is this? Is this just bluster? Over-confidence for humour's sake? Or do you really think that your post justify's calling Pandain 100% confirmed scum? | ||
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On January 23 2011 23:50 GGQ wrote: What is this? Is this just bluster? Over-confidence for humour's sake? Or do you really think that your post justify's calling Pandain 100% confirmed scum? Damnit, justifies* | ||
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Answer seriously, please. | ||
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On January 24 2011 00:24 Jackal58 wrote: I was. His last minute rush to break a tie between in order to lynch Shockkey or LSB makes no sense with an obvious mod kill on the way. All 3 are town. The odds of that are reaching the point of being ridiculously improbable. I think he has to be aware of who the reds are and his rush to get a 2 for 1 deal is extremely scummy looking. Why would you not vote for someone that you consider to be 100% scum? | ||
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You said that lynching Pandain would be lynching a red 100%. I asked if that was blustering overconfidence or if you were serious. You said both, which doesn't make sense, but from your posts I gather that you were being serious. So I asked why you would not vote for him if you actually believe he is 100% mafia. It feels scummy to me, like you are scum trying to sling mud without having to back it up. You did the same thing yesterday, accusing pandain then waiting to see if anyone else would vote him first. Your play this whole game has been ringing alarm bells for me. You've been posting aggressively but with little analysis. I think your accusations of pandain are not nearly strong enough for the confidence you are saying you have in them. What gives? What do you think of Nemesis or GMartshal? | ||
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Justify yourself, please. | ||
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On January 25 2011 12:28 kitaman27 wrote: At least they revealed the Nemesis, Barundar, Jackal/chaoser scumteam with the ninja in the case that town does survive. Hi guys, busy as fuck today, genuinely sorry it took so long for me to get to this game. I apologize. As kitaman27 just said, I think we're in a decent spot if town survives. Barundar apparently was willing to risk at least 2/3 mafia on the chance that they'll win tonight, but the game is still going so apparently we still have hope to see the morning. When Nemesis was going to be lynched 4:3, Barundar switched over to Pandain. Pandain was green. This should be clear enough that Baranduar and Nemesis are scum (looking back at their posts, Nemesis has been pretty scummy since the start, and Barundar has stayed pretty lurky with few posts and some questionable vote switching already on day 1). It is highly likely that the last scum is also voting for Pandain, which makes it either jackal58 or chaoser. Jackal58 may be surprised to hear that I think the last mafia is almost certainly chaoser. The guy has been posting noncommittal, meaningless fluff since the start of the game. Far too cautious, he was also the first person to soft-defend Nemesis after Pandain's initial vote. chaoser has done little to no analysis, parroting things that others have already said, or making posts that say nothing at all. IF we survive, we will need each lynch correct for the rest of the game. I strongly feel that these are our targets. What do you all think? | ||
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I doubt you'll convince anyone, but you might as well try. | ||
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On January 26 2011 08:38 Jackal58 wrote: Don't know why they need to. It's going to be 3-3 shortly. Unless they already know their NK failed but I don't know how that half of the game works. I'm going bowling. I'll be back around 10ish to find out if I wrecked our chances to win or not. Eh, if we lose I'll take responsibility for not getting home on time yesterday to switch my vote to Nemesis. Regardless, the mods wouldn't keep the game running if we didn't have a chance to survive, so we must have a vet or doc. Keep your fingers crossed. | ||
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On January 26 2011 12:16 chaoser wrote: Well, GG lol. Isn't two vigi kinda imba? Town KP is 3 in one day... I suspect that there are no other blue roles. Thanks for not roleblocking me  | ||
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On January 26 2011 12:30 chaoser wrote: We didn't intend it at all, it was cause Hes switched out. At the point we were all like ughhhh, no way people going to think he's mafia. There's 4 hours left in the day, why would mafia leave? There's no reason to leave cause you can just leave it to the rest of your team and just vote. To be honest, I think we all had Hes as the most pro-town player in the game anyways... even if he stayed I wouldnt have thought he could be maf | ||
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On January 26 2011 12:34 chaoser wrote: What gave me away =p Any improvements/advice? I want to know what BC thought of my play lol When you first soft defended Nemesis against Pandain when I suspected Nemesis for the same reasons as Pandain, you got on my radar. When you made that big post later on and said you were uncertain and asked what I thought about stuff, I thought you seemed way to uncertain. Then I read back over your posts and noticed that the uncertainty permeated many posts, and all your other posts were either repeating things others had said or just null-tell information. Barundar was lurking but I had a soft-townie read on him for no reason up until he switched the vote to hammer Pandain. If I had gotten home on time before that lynch I would have posted my analysis of you two and finished the lynch on Nemesis. If Barundar had worked with town, he might have won later. But that's not what happened! | ||
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On January 26 2011 14:04 Nemesis wrote: Any improvements I can make with my scum game as I seemed to be in a lot of people's radar the whole time? Your first post was worded strangely and made it seem like you were contradicting yourself. That's why you got picked out right away, but if you responded well to that, I would have passed over you. The problem was that you made a quick vote on ShocKeyy. Shockeyy had already been discussed and you didn't bring anything new to the discussion. Plus it was still an inactive lynch. I guess I'd suggest either not voting for anyone, just explain your post and allow the conversation to move on (the weaker option), or make an analysis on a player with new information or insight that no one else had brought up. Either of those would have been more pro-town. After that, you were in trouble and I don't know what you should have done. | ||
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