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chaoser
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The only thing I'm worried about is the last minute switching by Pandain and Barundar to LSB though I don't know what it means. At first it looked like they were switching to save Shockeyy last minute but then he flipped green...I suggest, like LSB said, on a check of barundar and pandain but with a check on Barundar more important than Pandain. While pandain gave a reason, barundar seems like he just followed along. | ||
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So the thing that make me think Pandain isn't [r]red[/r]: 1) Both Shockey and LSB were green, why would mafia switch from one to the other? It makes no sense since a dead townie is still a dead townie. At first I thought like you too, but stepping back, I noticed it was a weird thing that happened last night. What do others think? Might be wrong lol. | ||
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He would switch in order to guarantee a lynch. There was already a guaranteed lynch though. At that point I think it was like 4 on Shockey and 1 of LSB. It was only because of Pandain's switch that caused the "tie". Which is why I'm so confused. | ||
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Yeah but if Pandain hadn't switched to LSB/posted about it GGQ's vote would have meant nothing and no tie would have happened. | ||
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On January 24 2011 11:31 Pandain wrote: Why I believe Nemesis is mafia. Summary: Nemesis to me is scum. From "contributing without really contributing", weak contribution compared to his previous game(such as lack of analysis) to his general posts this game, Nemesis has been playing scummy. Note how when he was town he would contribute alot, and I even waited a day for Nemesis to perhaps post something, but its very likely in my eyes that he's scum, and just wanted the day to go by. I'm unsure about nearly everyone, but Nemesis in my eyes is our best bet. You confuse me this game Pandain...I don't understand your logic at all and maybe that's the ploy, to do crazy random shit that no one can follow. You say Nemesis is "contributing without really contributing" but you're even worse. Before this analysis, you were basically "contributing so much that you weren't contributing at all." By jumping from target to target and playing up the fact that you were only doing this to "start up conversation", you basically had no opinion on the game because you pointed fingers at everything and everyone. You realize that isn't helping town right? Making conversation is good, making the topic change every 10 minutes is bad. We went from Nemesis to BC to Shockey to LSB. I think there was someone else in there but basically by doing that, we can't pin you down for anything. Do you see how you're doing the same thing as "contributing without really contributing"? Also, you're riding on him for not contributing today when more than half the town didn't contribute. I don't think that's a strong claim at all. Does that mean GGQ and Hesmyrr and Me are mafia too? Even you barely contributed today until a few hours ago. It's the semi finals for the NFL so maybe that's why some people aren't here? I know that's what I was doing all day. I really don't understand...I don't think you're mafia just cause you're playing so randomly and loud but at the same time that's so WIFOM...for all I know, in a few hours, you're going to jump to trying to lynch someone else...can someone else weigh in on this? I'm confused as fuck on Pandain's actions. What do you think GGQ...I just don't even...sigh Pandain, can you explain what your logic was for your actions on Day 1? Would make my life easier. | ||
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It's called creating your own information. Day 1 is all about that. In most day 1's, we have no information at all. With the exception of Nemesis, all of my accusations day 1 were not serious, they were just to get them talking as well as generate discussion from others. I do this in all my games as town, I pressure people until they talk enough. For example, the reason why I unvoted Nemesis and waited was to see if he would actually start to help scum hunt. If they weren't serious, why did you vote for Shockey? And why did you switch to LSB, not Nemesis, if he was the exception? Something's not adding up... Take me out of the equation. What information would we have had? We still have no information...just you saying that you think Nemesis is mafia with no real solid backing, in my opinion. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like you're grasping at empty straws. Post a better analysis please. And leave out the "he didn't scum hunt, only went after inactives" argument, it's getting stale. | ||
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After much deliberation I've decided to vote Pandain. It was hard but it ultimately came down to this question: If they weren't serious, why did you vote for Shockey? And why did you switch to LSB, not Nemesis, if he was the exception? Something's not adding up... If you were only serious about Nemesis, why vote for Shockey? Why switch to LSB? Could have broken the tie with a vote on Nemesis as well. If you're town, please don't play like this in the future, there are better ways of getting info and conversation. If you're mafia, nice try, but just cause you played the same style as previous games does not mean much to me. I don't enjoy looking at things from a meta-perspective and I think some games are lost solely because people depend too much on it, especially if they only looked at it in a shallow manner. ##Vote: Pandain Going to class, it ends at 9:30. Hopefully I'll be back before 10. | ||
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On January 25 2011 11:43 Jackal58 wrote: Again we are faced with a tie. Mod kill has apparently been averted. I'm going to be brutally honest and say that towns best interest atm is to allow the tie to go forward. Back from class. I concur, lets let it tie, it buys us a day and lets us have better chances at finding mafia. | ||
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On January 25 2011 13:02 GGQ wrote: Hi guys, busy as fuck today, genuinely sorry it took so long for me to get to this game. I apologize. As kitaman27 just said, I think we're in a decent spot if town survives. Barundar apparently was willing to risk at least 2/3 mafia on the chance that they'll win tonight, but the game is still going so apparently we still have hope to see the morning. When Nemesis was going to be lynched 4:3, Barundar switched over to Pandain. Pandain was green. This should be clear enough that Baranduar and Nemesis are scum (looking back at their posts, Nemesis has been pretty scummy since the start, and Barundar has stayed pretty lurky with few posts and some questionable vote switching already on day 1). It is highly likely that the last scum is also voting for Pandain, which makes it either jackal58 or chaoser. Jackal58 may be surprised to hear that I think the last mafia is almost certainly chaoser. The guy has been posting noncommittal, meaningless fluff since the start of the game. Far too cautious, he was also the first person to soft-defend Nemesis after Pandain's initial vote. chaoser has done little to no analysis, parroting things that others have already said, or making posts that say nothing at all. IF we survive, we will need each lynch correct for the rest of the game. I strongly feel that these are our targets. What do you all think? Busing your own teammates and throwing me in as the last mafia huh? How convenient of you to suddenly post right after night starts with your vote yesterday on Jackal of all people. | ||
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