I can confirm that RoL has a vest, and Annul has the money RoL gave him in the trust. Some of the money from RoL's trust has been used.

This confirms the claims that RoL, and Annul both have protective abilities. Make of that what you will.

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 10 2011 00:47 GMT

#139

On January 10 2011 05:03 Nemesis wrote:
Things are rather getting interesting...annul claims to be unlynchable. Well let's put that theory to the test. And what exactly is his ability to protect RoL?

##Vote: annul

It's been confirmed that he is NOT unlynchable. If you are going to stick with that vote, you're going to have to explain it.

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 10 2011 01:13 GMT

#141

On January 10 2011 05:52 annul wrote:
okay. well, apparently i am not unlynchable.

Show nested quote +

Read the forum.

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 10 2011 01:13 GMT

#142

Oh, and ebwodp, he didn't lie. He was mistaken.

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 10 2011 01:54 GMT

#144

And I would like to remind everyone that both could be town, and we should be looking for two people. Not one. I strongly believe that it would be better to see if we can find someone else who is a strong lynch target. If we can't, I understand. But i think that we can find one.

Some people say there isn't a lot to analyze. I disagree. Firstly, it doesn't take tons of posts for someone to post something that is incriminating. Secondly, we have 4-5 pages of content, and only 7 players filling them. I think that's plenty of content. It's just that everyone is getting distracted by all the items/PMs. Town wins the game because of good scum hunting. We should not assume that town will use their items cleverly, and win it that way. For the town to use KP we need to know who to use it on. This requires scum hunting. So let's go scum hunt.

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 10 2011 04:58 GMT

#147

Nemesis, I'll get to your question in a second. Chip:

Look: Everyone knew that he was a day vig. This means that he's a prime target for mafia. They very likely some sort of day KP, or they could have traded for it. The only suspicious part is that it happened in the window of time when Annul knew what was going down.

Obviously LD wouldn't kill himself. That doesn't mean that one of the two is mafia. The mafia knew he was a good target, he was calling for protection, and he was scheduled to make a hit tonight. It makes sense for him to be killed at that time. Again, it's not a coincidence that he was killed before he took the shot. It's a coincidence that it happened after Annul found out that LD would be protected, and before he actually got the protection. You your self said that you expected the mafia to hit him last night

If we lynch annul, and he's town, then that doesn't mean that RoL is mafia. I think he's town. Let's not make rash assumptions.

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 10 2011 05:42 GMT

#149

You cannot share your ability descriptions with us. So how would we know that you don't have more than one ability? I believe that you have a protection ability, but how do i know that you don't have another ability that can kill?

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 10 2011 05:59 GMT

#151

But this will not include a description of your protection ability, right?

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 10 2011 18:35 GMT

#169

Ok, so just to check, LSB: Night begins at 11:00 KST, correct? KST is same a Liquid time, right?

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 10 2011 18:53 GMT

#171

This argument has officially made the transition to spam. Please stop fighting. You've both made your points. I still think that it's possible that you are both town, blinded by each other, but I concede that it's become a shrinking chance in my mind. Personally, I don't think that either of you are makeing very good/convincing arguments. However, the information that we will gain from the lynch of one of you would be valuable to the town at this point.

For now, I beg of you, RoL, and Annul: Take a step away from the argument, and consider the possibility that the other is town. You two are the strongest players we have atm, and I'd hate to lose all of you because of a blind rage towards the other.

Nemesis, I think that you are just jumping on a bandwagon that you think is safe. I've watched you for a while, and I've come to the conclusion that you look like scum. I can't post the reason just yet, but I will before the lynch. I doubt that this vote will do anything anyways, as enough people seem pretty set on lynching Annul.

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 10 2011 23:20 GMT

#193

Hey, reading the forum. Anyone who wishes to speak with me, I'll be in irc. #mercmafia

I would like to talk to everyone who is here, privatly to some. I have almost no time, so sorry if you get there too late.

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 11 2011 00:01 GMT

#194

Alright, I plan on being back later, but I have to commute right now. This is a PLACE HOLDER VOTE: I will make my final decision later, but for right now, this seems like the best course of action for the town.

RoL, it hurts to do this. Terribly sorry If I'm wrong. ##VoteRoL

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 11 2011 01:50 GMT

#197

Precious was my kill, Annul. Don't ever take precious away from me.

##Vote: Annul

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 11 2011 02:19 GMT

#220

Lol. I had a grenade on Node, and had the vote to lynch RoL. Guess I screwed up, but RoL played wonderfully. Tho, for the record, town could have won if annul hadn't given Node the protection.

Damn you RoL. You played me like the fool i was. For the record, I was still convinced that Annul and RoL were both town at the end, but my end game plan was to kill everyone, and annul had the best chance of screwing that up.

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 11 2011 02:27 GMT

#227

On January 11 2011 11:21 annul wrote:
kav you didnt think. i told you in IRC to stop this shit

your logic to me was "ROL would be pissed if i voted him, he has been my mentor and he was very angry id vote for him, i dont want him quitting TL mafia"

absolutely atrocious.

Lol, that was what i told you. I was never that honest with you in irc about my opinion. I voted RoL because the best evidence I had at the time was against RoL. You're lack of help with me was what pushed me over. I wanted information, all the info you could give me to help with the decision, and you never really told me that much.

The reason why I killed nemesis was that he accepted my item. I gave him a fallacious description that clearly stated that if someone killed you, they would also die. Unless they were mafia. That item has absolutely no use to a townie, so I figured if he wanted it enough to buy it, he could have it.

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 11 2011 02:30 GMT

#231

On January 11 2011 11:23 annul wrote:
i find it utterly inconceivable that given ALL the evidence, you believed i was more red than ROL. you knew one of us had to go. you chose me. why?

i would like to see your rationale, i really would. why did you choose me as more scummy than he, when i was claiming medic and could prove it?

I didn't think that either of you were scum. I thought that you would be able to stop me from being able to kill everyone else. I told you this was my goal earlier. That never really changed if you didn't notice.

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 11 2011 02:45 GMT

#241

Out of curiosity, who was the contract guru? Who had the most money at the end of the game?

Kavdragon

United States1251 Posts

January 11 2011 02:49 GMT

#243

Oh, and I openly admit that I made a mistake. Hind sight is 20/20, and there were a lot of contradictions having to do with what RoL said he would do, and what he did. In then end I couldn't decide which was which. The spammy arguments were a big deterant, but I won't blame it on that. With no easy decision, I decided to kill Annul, becuase he would be the biggest deterant to my plan. His protection could save everyone from me. It's unfortunet that Annul protected Node, but it wouldn't have happened to me if I hadn't switched votes.