• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:23
CET 06:23
KST 14:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool47Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Soulkey's decision to leave C9 JaeDong's form before ASL
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group C 2026 Changsha Offline Cup [ASL21] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6368 users

TL Mafia XXXV - Page 3

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 19:41 GMT
#472
vet: cant prove it unless you are hit, no guarantee
hatter: cant prove it unless you die
vig: cant prove it within the rules
medic: cant prove it (actually you can, but its ridic difficult to do)
DT: cant prove it (framers/GF/etc not to mention potential for "checking" your mafia teammate who of course will confirm)
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 19:43 GMT
#476
On December 29 2010 04:42 Insanious wrote:
I don't see LSB as a red, he doesn't look red to me


then this is your real reson. its not his blue claim, its "i do not believe annul's analysis."
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 20:00 GMT
#481
in scenario 1, even if KP doesnt go down, it means we only have 1 more kill to go to drop it, instead of 2.

in scenario 2, yes this is true.

in scenario 3, 1. fuck me; 2. this won't happen.

i also think the "1 blue > 2 green" is flawed -- you cannot assume it will be extra greens who get night killed. it is more than probable to include at least 1 other blue (if LSB is blue himself). so you trade 1 blue 1 green for 1 blue?

assume there are 6 mafia. 24 town. assume there are 10 blues. 1-((14/24)*(13/23)) = 67.03% chance to kill at least 1 blue using purely RNG kills.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 20:03 GMT
#483
then im wrong, and so are all the people who see what i see.

also means his defense to my attack was pretty horrible
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 20:42 GMT
#498
On December 29 2010 05:31 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
but can you disprove by showing games where an active mafia is lynched on day1 and they did not say they can prove their innocence.

Harry Potter Mafia
Yours truely


rofl

it was a bus

of course you arent going to claim blue because you are being bussed! your goal was death.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 20:47 GMT
#502
On December 29 2010 05:44 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 05:42 annul wrote:
On December 29 2010 05:31 LSB wrote:
but can you disprove by showing games where an active mafia is lynched on day1 and they did not say they can prove their innocence.

Harry Potter Mafia
Yours truely


rofl

it was a bus

of course you arent going to claim blue because you are being bussed! your goal was death.

So do you think I'm mafia? It doesn't sound like it.


no, ive only been sitting on you the entire game because i dont think youre mafia
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 21:39 GMT
#511
On December 29 2010 06:33 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm sure that LSB wouldn't lie if he wasn't scum


what?

FOS bumatlarge ;\
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 22:01 GMT
#523
On December 29 2010 06:51 bumatlarge wrote:
Speaking of which annul, why are you against this? By all means LSB shouldnt be able to kill you since he is scum, right? If he is vig then there is a better chance of you being scum then most people.


i am not for or against any plan yet

i am against a contention that scum wont lie
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 22:06 GMT
#525
i really do not know what pandain is talking about here

ill copy what i told him in PMs here too:

Original Message From annul:
there is nobody better to kill today than LSB.

if you agree LSB is 99% mafia then find me someone who is 99.1% mafia to go after instead. its not like sengoku where you do not have to vote someone each day cycle.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Pandain:
?
IF he doesn't give proof by start of day 2, we lynch him.
Plain and simple.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
theres a 100% kill somewhere?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Pandain:
unvote lsb
we'll be able to lynch him tommorow, or at the very least vigi him tommorow night.

I think he's scum, but let's go for the 100%
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 22:08 GMT
#527
i mean this is the critical theme between all of these posts trying to save LSB

"I THINK HES SCUM, BUT..."

but what? if you think hes scum, kill him.

if he really had a plan that he could reveal at the start of day 2 he could reveal it now. nothing changes in night 1 that cant be solved for (medic protection on him if he is really so important), etc. realize night 1 is the only period of time passing from now and when he says he will reveal his master plan
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 22:10 GMT
#528
in fact it almost looks to me like mafia trying to half-save their partner, but cover their ass when he does flip red

"OH NO NO NO i wasnt really trying to defend him, see im saying hes scum to me!"
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 22:22 GMT
#534
btw he isnt godfather yet - there is no godfather yet
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 22:31 GMT
#538
"clearly" a bad idea -- clear to whom? even pandain says you are 99% mafia
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 22:39 GMT
#541
you do not seem to understand math

if there is a "99%" chance he is mafia, the only thing you can gain is 1% certainty by waiting.

in exchange for this 1% certainty, assume we attack someone on RNG basis. we give up 80% certainty today and, in exchange for ONE PERCENT chance to save a blue, we take a ~33% chance of randoming a "different" blue. an actual blue.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 22:43 GMT
#544
i do not play this game RNG. if this game was entirely RNG then what is the point of playing at all, of analysis, etc?

i do not have a 6/30 chance of feeling correctly. my "feelings" are not RNG-based.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 23:15 GMT
#549
okay well

unless something actually changes, you all have my case, you all have LSB's case. you all have what has transpired to go through. go forth and vote, we have 3.75 hours
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 28 2010 23:25 GMT
#551
uhhhhh

what is with this push for brocket all of a sudden? what has brocket even done?

stop going off target. LSB is a much better kill than brocket.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 29 2010 01:30 GMT
#595
seriously the brocket vote has to be the dumbest idea possible at this stage in the game

why are we effectively giving up our day 1 vote? this is such a horrible idea it isnt even funny. what will killing brocket gain us? what information? none. none whatsoever.

taking down LSB however will give us a multitude of information.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 29 2010 01:33 GMT
#599
On December 29 2010 10:31 Insanious wrote:
and since there have been 4 people comming out of no where to defend Brocket it makes me think Brocket is even more red.


maybe its people coming out against horrible ideas with no basis in fact or analysis?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 29 2010 01:34 GMT
#601
btw look at the voting thread.

shockey, georgeclooney, d3_crescentia, tevo

all gonna be modkilled for illegal voting too
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#74
PiGStarcraft225
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech126
Livibee 80
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 4729
Soulkey 370
ggaemo 76
Bale 31
Noble 21
ajuk12(nOOB) 19
Icarus 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever687
febbydoto19
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K594
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox319
C9.Mang0300
Mew2King15
Other Games
PiGStarcraft225
Maynarde93
RuFF_SC285
ViBE57
Temp05
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick988
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream54
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH174
• practicex 34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra1685
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 37m
Afreeca Starleague
4h 37m
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
5h 37m
Replay Cast
18h 37m
KCM Race Survival
1d 3h
The PondCast
1d 4h
WardiTV Team League
1d 6h
OSC
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
WardiTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Platinum Heroes Events
3 days
BSL
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
OSC
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-23
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.