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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 29 2010 19:36 GMT
#703
Thank you.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 30 2010 01:47 GMT
#726
Night should be over soon no?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 30 2010 03:12 GMT
#738
On December 30 2010 12:06 seRapH wrote:
Hm, so mafia isn't bluesniping, but aiming at very experienced players. Getting LSB lynched must have made them real happy...
Going to try to get analysis in tommorow.

And how would they know who is blue? How would we know if they just missed?
Could very well be they just hit those that have experience. But how would we know?
How do you know?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 30 2010 13:10 GMT
#790
On December 30 2010 12:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
alright everyone vote insanious or my previously outlined reasons.

OK.

On December 30 2010 12:35 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Who would you propose we lynch? I am pretty sure about all 3 of you, right now I would prefer to go after Annul but I feel to get the backing on that would require very hard analysis. Tonight's hits make me think Annul is likely mafia and I can explain why. I still think you are most likely mafia but I can hold off on that judgment in favor of him.

OK

On December 30 2010 16:23 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 14:54 Insanious wrote:
Meapak_Ziphh you, just like RoL make a huge mistake. I was not 100% sure LSB was blue. I was 100% sure he was either blue or red...

Either he proves he's blue. He lives. He doesn't, he dies.

This could of happened on night 3, wouldn't of hurt the town at all. It could of only helped by saving a blue for more nights, or saved a blue for the rest of the game.

Litterally no down side for the town... so we should of waited. I would of killed him instantly on day 3 if I wasn't 100% sure he was blue.

Waiting helped the town, killing him gave us nothing.


This is what I was saying... there was no point where I KNEW he was blue. And there was no point that I said I was 100% sure he was blue until after he died... Read my posts, and don't put words in my mouth.

Just to correct his right now. This is false logic. It gave us information. a LOT of information. Redirecting a lynch last second gives us absolutely nothing except for knowing who a bunch of impulsive townies and a couple of mafia are. Like I said, look at the (day3?) lynch in Salem where they switched to Darth, Darth never defended himself or anything just the entire town switched the vote and got nothing for it. Watching that happen was terrible, considering they were about to actually lynch a mafia.

As another note, holding off a lynch is rarely a good idea. Most of the time pushing off a lynch leads to the town completely forgetting or constantly pushing off that lynch. Look at pandain in Insane mafia. He was so obviously scum and they ALMOST killed him a few times constantly pushing it off. Pandain ended up being the only player alive at the end, winning the game for the mafia. Deal with shit now, especially when there is no 100% way to confirm someone that isn't completely ass backwards retarded. The first half of my post on Seraph where I outline the importance of blue roles was a farce. I do not believe for a second we need blue roles to win this game. My creed is that behavioral analysis is the be all and end all of mafia, you either analyze and win or you don't and you lose. Blue roles can help, but at the end of the day who gives a shit about a DT check when there is a framer/miller/godfather in the game. I just wanted to try to see what the response was to that post, while outlining an analysis on a suspicious player. Unfortunately I was at work shortly after I got around to posting that so I wasn't able to see the results until I got home after 10PM when the Day was over, but I still think it served its purpose which is why I attacked you and Seraph.

OK

On December 30 2010 18:57 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Alright. So I am tired of this town being wishwashy so much. Tomorrow before I go to work I am going to decide on a lynch target. We are going to kill them, if I am wrong you guys can kill me if you so wish it. The thing is I will chose my target, I will push them relentlessly, and I will be right. I will most likely choose one of the three mentioned before, but it is going to be large analysis followed by a relentless attack until I get my way. I see three candidates going out right now with some shitty stupid reasoning. I will examine every person being suggested right now and decide which one is best. I welcome all who oppose me.

OK then,

Wishy washy much?

Right now you have my vote.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 30 2010 16:47 GMT
#791
Apparently I've killed everybody. I win. :p
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 30 2010 17:26 GMT
#794
On December 31 2010 02:12 Barundar wrote:
Discussion just died, no way we are getting anywhere like this.

Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 18:57 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Alright. So I am tired of this town being wishwashy so much. Tomorrow before I go to work I am going to decide on a lynch target. We are going to kill them, if I am wrong you guys can kill me if you so wish it. The thing is I will chose my target, I will push them relentlessly, and I will be right. I will most likely choose one of the three mentioned before, but it is going to be large analysis followed by a relentless attack until I get my way. I see three candidates going out right now with some shitty stupid reasoning. I will examine every person being suggested right now and decide which one is best. I welcome all who oppose me.

I'm not sure we need another all out war between 2 players now, even if you have been right in other games - to be honest this is the first time I have seen you alive by day 2 as town in the 2 games I've played with you.

I'm not entirely sure what the rationale behind voting Insanious is, he was very active throughout yesterday, and would a mafia really have an incentitive to put themselves in the spotlight that much for an innocent? Same reasoning kinda rules out Pandain as scum for me, why would he be so wavering to defend a blue?

I'd like to get some more people's opinion on these targets. LSB's aim was to lure out lurkers, before he got sidetracked by the debate between himself and annul. Honest opinions will atleast give us something to work with.

I don't see Insanious or Pandain as scum atm either.
I still think TheMango and Brockett are red. I'm also leaning towards ROL now after his moment of flailing about. Also Tevo has been non existant and well under the radar.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 30 2010 19:26 GMT
#801
I would add Tevo to your list Pandain.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 31 2010 03:46 GMT
#832
What the hell indeed.

Good evening all. There is no analysis or finger pointing in this post. Merely a heads up to the fact that I am now off work for the next 3 days and I fully intend to remain inebriated until Sunday night. So I may begin posting things that make less sense than I already have.

This is my second game of Mafia. My first was HP Mafia. I died the first night so I've already reached a milestone of sorts. And yes there is a reason for this rambling if you'll indulge me for a minute.

I see you guys making posts with your analysis. I do read all of it. But my own personal forum style is typically very short and to the point one liners.

I am aware that this has put some of you off. That I appear to be some type of lurker. But that is truly not the case. If you look at what I say it is typically very succinct and to the point.

If I make a point without an enormous amount of analysis behind it, it's because I have assumed you have all read the same things I have.

I don't say much but I usually speak volumes.

Happy New years eve to those of you now living in Dec 31st. I'll join you shortly.

Lynch ROL
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 31 2010 03:58 GMT
#835
As long as you're having fun
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 31 2010 04:12 GMT
#837
I have that effect on people.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 31 2010 04:19 GMT
#839
I'm going to assume that a lot of you guys know each other from the TL forums.
I'm new here. I have been aware of this place for years because of my love for Starcraft but I never joined until I was asked to in order to participate in the Mafia games.
A few of your members probably know me. Most probably don't.
This is where I live at on the internet:
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/search.php?searchid=6010406
Feel free to analyze me.
I'm all about 1 liners.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 31 2010 04:31 GMT
#841
Sorry. It works for me.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 31 2010 04:32 GMT
#842
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=11

You'll have to dig but it's the same forum. Same user name.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 31 2010 04:41 GMT
#843
Coagulation informs me Hanna Montana is performing tomorrow at Disney World.
He seems to believe this fact has relevance here.
I don't get it.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 31 2010 15:56 GMT
#871
Orgolove and annul - What possible purpose does a double lynch serve at this juncture?
I can understand why red would want a double lynch on day two but it makes no sense for town to push for a double lynch today.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 31 2010 21:05 GMT
#876
On January 01 2011 05:40 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2011 00:56 Jackal58 wrote:
Orgolove and annul - What possible purpose does a double lynch serve at this juncture?
I can understand why red would want a double lynch on day two but it makes no sense for town to push for a double lynch today.


... serious?


Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 06:04 LunarDestiny wrote:
The double lynch is for day3. It will be helpful when dt a checked a mafia and we have an extra lynch to be used for another suspects.

We have 2 double lynch total in the game. As the game continues, we will get more information on who to lynch. But we are too many losing experience players too soon. Mafia will have an easier time to defer lynch when we have an inactive, indecisive town.
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 14:42 orgolove wrote:
And don't make the mistake of... I think it was XXXIV or something like that, where town only used one. With a game where mafia has this many KP, town needs to use the double lynch - The longer we wait the larger the breath of the reds will be.

We need the double lynch.


I would agree with Lunar Destiny on a day 3 double lynch.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 31 2010 21:30 GMT
#878
On January 01 2011 06:25 GGQ wrote:
What you don't seem to understand is that voting for a double lynch today means that we have a double lynch tomorrow.

Ahh. Alright then. I assumed the vote was for today's actions.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 31 2010 23:21 GMT
#885
The person under me is annul
Honestly there is not much to analyze after his tunneling of LSB. I'm not going to revisit that.
Most of his posts since day 1 lynch are in defense of his tunneling. And since he has fallen oddly silent.
I'm assuming he got what he wanted on day 1 and is either mafia going into lurk mode or is a disappointed townie because he helped get a blue lynched.
His defense of his actions during night 1 lend themselves to the latter.
annul - most likely scum.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 02 2011 03:17 GMT
#973
Good job.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 02 2011 14:38 GMT
#1004
On January 02 2011 23:01 Node wrote:
I'm willing to bet a bajillion ESPORTS dollars that RoL is mafia -- mostly for the reasons that Barundar posted. He's right in that the mini-fight with annul after annul's lynch was practically inevitable confirms it. His attempt to gain medic protection tonight as he's a prime vigi target makes me even more sure.

My belief he is Mafia lies more with the fact that his analysis of annul came with less than an hour to vote with annul already holding the lynch lead and was "accidentally" posted in the voting thread.
It appears to be no more than a ploy to say "look I outed the GF"
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