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On January 22 2011 17:10 LunarDestiny wrote:
Serial Killer won. Holy shit. LSB needs to take lesson from THE MAN.
Hey! I didn't count on BC being there!
I planned it around the player list, I didn't see any big mafia hunters there, so I figured out that if I could neutralize the blue threat I should be good.
Admit it, the "Lets give LSB the location of the Bulletbill and the Tracker" plan was genius.
On January 22 2011 17:16 Ace wrote:
Yea I gotta say LSB that was major balls to push that Scummy plan through. I think if you just didn't rolefish you woulda lived a bit longer.
Townies actually went a long with it and I was like oh no....Scum win in 5 days v_v
Hey hey, scum wouldn't have won that fast, I'd just mow them down with my sk gun! (Of course, after I've dealt with the Bulletbill and the Tracker)
On January 22 2011 18:12 aidnai wrote:
1) LSB's plan was horrible for town. I regret that I did not pay much attention during this stage of the game. I know LSB loves his plans, I didn't see anything wrong until BC did his analysis. Direct results of the plan:
-Mafia got CC and CPR doc rather safely, it only slipped away from them because of later errors.
-Mafia got a fairly accurate role list
-etc
Yep this was a big problem I identified. But if I was mafia I wouldn't have done that, I would have taken Godfather instead of CC.
The plan was more 'anti-mafia' than straight up randomness. However, if I was town, I'd run something that looks more like Hesmyrr's plan, and place the doctors at the bottom, so that the traitor doesn't mess with the doctor picks.
On January 22 2011 18:58 Incognito wrote:
Honestly I'm not a fan of the hider role. Its weaker than vet, and doesn't seem like that fun of a role.
It would have been useful for SK, as it allows the SK to not be tracked, and explain his bulletproofness.
I picked it, but Divinek sniped it out of my hands
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Not to take anything away from BC and jimbo, I personally played a pretty shitty game. First day we were all on an IRC chatting away about what we would do with draft picks and roles, and i thought we would have a really good team. Role-picking comes along and the first episode of miscommunication comes along :X I come late to the role picking, and I see a kinda lackluster list.
Decon: CPR
Bum: RC
Haplo: PC
zeks: mason
Pig: PoD
I thought with LSB's list we could really maneuver stuff around, but my team picked every standard role in the game...
So I went and switched me to CPR and decon to CC. I didn't give it to anyone else if they had plans with their picks. If I had a whole day with my scum buddies (who were actually a really smart crew), I think we would have had a much more solid game plan.
Anyways, Day1 initiates and viola a traitor is here! LoR does us the kindness of revealing this, so I say free lynch. I kinda would have done this anyway as town, so I didn't epect much FoS and I didn't get any. Fishball catches my eye immediately, as I think BC said, as traitor you start analyzing all these different schemes without focusing on something concrete (probably butchered that?).
Night 1 was a fucking miracle. 6 deaths and the one mafia among them is getting saved by a townie witch. Miracle. By the way divine EAT IT YOU CANT HIDE FROM ME HAHAHAHA
Now I just afk for like 2 days which BC was spot on again. Day 2 I just post some general insults to town keeping my vote on deconduo. I figure we can both look like opposite factions from this, and a lovely dayvig on LSB makes everything lovely. And a no lynch to top it off. I take a nap.
Night 2 comes along, and we might as well snipe some roles! Oh wait, kita gets protected, fucking cube. And jimbo doesnt die hmmm. And zeks gets shot. Ok OK, we can recover, zeks isn't really conneted to any of us. Of course my IRC thing expires and I cant figure out how to get on, so I think of the brilliant plan to claim RC (which I didn't really see the FoS behind picking that, I mean if I say one thing and do another, and then claim it before anyone figures it out, that should only hinder mafia in knowing what I am whatever). Except I choose the exact wrong candidate in every shape and form. Eiii. Just because I probably know his role and know he won't argue with me DOESN'T MEAN I SHOULD USE IT. I called him vanilla which was FHDISJK. I proceeded to screw over haplo and myself singlehandedly with this gift to town. As every other role above us was claimed and a lot were relatively safe to assume were confirmed.
Blahblah rest of the days I thought we would all die, but I fail to figure ot jimbo is SK til 2nd time I hit him, and we were not getting shot to hell just yet. But I definetly thought that jimbo should win as SK, so I started chatting away with BC about a bunch of stuff that never made sense in the first place. To defend BM and chez, doing that is quite fun, but only if it has a purpose.
So to haplo, I am sorry man  you are mafia MVP! :D and a better player then me lol
To BC, fantastic town play man! Hope you didn't take too much of my stuff seriously, I was just sowing seed of love. (I mean kita did try to kill you twice LOL?)
To jimbo, you my good sir deserve a...
+ Show Spoiler +
Your vet claim fucked me over, It did. I wasted 2 hits on you thinking you were town vet, when you were really an imbalanced politician. I look forward to playing in PYP4 again. But then you might have to deal with my insane townie powers!
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By the way, as mafia, you should try to set up times for about 15-30 minutes in which your whole team is active so you can talk on IRC or something. Unless you have a forum. Even then.
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On January 22 2011 18:28 flamewheel wrote:
Parity is awesome. I honestly think Role Cop is a bit more useless in PYP (and the lack of it leads to much more entertaining play) though you do need it sometimes to catch bullshit. Traitor is sick fun, but the traitor will pretty much be found early because you got people who want to take it and will announce "lol I didn't get it." It's a nice way to spice up the game though, so I like it.
Edit: oops why'd I say role cop? Anyway both Alignment and Parity are fine. I like Parity more though because I'm not too much of a fan of variants in these types of games^^
Role cop is awesome in PYP. If a Role Cop had existed and happened to check Jimbo or Bum, claiming the role basically screws over the Mafia/ SK. However, I agree that Parity was a cool change to Alignment Cop.
On January 22 2011 18:58 Incognito wrote:
Honestly I'm not a fan of the hider role. Its weaker than vet, and doesn't seem like that fun of a role.
Traitor is a fine role. Its not the mod's fault that town has bad strategy and tries to go for the traitor early.
I prefer alignment cop to parity cop. I know parity cop didn't fall into town hands this game, but I think alignment cop is nerfed enough anyway since theres the potential to be insane, and SKs show up as town.
I'll post a game analysis tomorrow.
The reason I like hider being in the game is because it's a 3rd defensive role (with Veteran and Bullet Proof). I personally like the large number of defensive roles available. They allow more flexibility for the top picks and SKs who take a hit.
On January 22 2011 19:22 Fishball wrote:
I did not want to play this game at first, but when BC joined, I also decided to sign up last moment. I gave myself two choices at that point.
1. Get Day Vigilante and kill BC the instant the game starts.
2. Destroy LSB's plan.
Getting Day Vigilante requires a very high draft. 6th wasn't high enough, plus I thought it would be a bit too lame even if I was able to pull the assassination off. It would be funny regardless. Obviously, I went with the latter.
How is 6 way too low for Day Vigi? It hasn't gone even close to that high in any game so far (18 in PYP3, 15 in PYP2, and 13 in PYP1).
On January 22 2011 19:22 Fishball wrote:
A cycle later, deconduo decides to claim to town that he in fact hit me that Night. This was a key turning point for me; I knew things would start to go downhill from here and I was really upset with the move. Basically deconduo, while his "SK claim" validity has already been briefly brought up, confirmed contact with the biggest Traitor candidate, me, where I did not die. This will raise eyebrows no matter how you look at it, and left me limited options to work with. Should I say the hit never happened? Should I claim Veteran? Can't claim RB since a SK hit would go through. Should I say another Medic protected me? Which is likely since I claimed not following the plan. Bah, It didn't matter. I was bound to die. The moment I die, deconduo's claim would be void. When my lynch was confirmed, I made that last post as a last ditch effort, to help the "team"; To create a diversion on the SK(s), to plant distrust, no matter how minor it was. The effect was minimal - "Town" doesn't know how to read.
I thought this was huge too actually. It created a situation where more people claimed to be hit than people claimed to take a hit. However, nobody really latched onto this. I thought it was a big mistake that they let this pass unchallenged.
On January 23 2011 00:54 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2011 17:10 LunarDestiny wrote:
Serial Killer won. Holy shit. LSB needs to take lesson from THE MAN. Hey! I didn't count on BC being there! I planned it around the player list, I didn't see any big mafia hunters there, so I figured out that if I could neutralize the blue threat I should be good. Admit it, the "Lets give LSB the location of the Bulletbill and the Tracker" plan was genius.
Why are you so afraid of the Tracker? Pick up ANY role and the Tracker doesn't scare you any more. If you're really that afraid of it, grab Doctor. By the way, I'm VERY amused that the best role for a SK (JOAT - it lets you explain Bullet Bill checks, blocks tracker, gives you a way to end the game instead of going to lylo, and even lets you explain why you survived that night hit) hasn't been taken in any of the PYP games.
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kitaman27
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Grats Jimbo. Well Played.
Sorry BC for the hits. I assure you they weren't things I took just a few seconds to think about, but I still guessed wrong in the end. For a town controlled kp, there was little to no control. If I had been scum, I was pretty free to pick off the person of my choosing (like that annoying townie BC!) The first time I was really thrown off by the day two mislynch. I had a pretty strong belief that fishball was the traitor, while you were arguing for a no lynch and keeping him around for the extra day. I suppose I shouldn't have looked past those who were conveniently absent. I decided to write up a post, rather than hitting you out of the blue, since I knew you said you would be around to post about bum, but you showed up for neither of them.
The second hit was probably an even poorer decision on my part. Its tough to trust a plan, when the person who presented it was the guy you tried to hit last night. It appeared you had an agenda (which turned out to be a good one) to see bum dead from day 2. You were pretty certain that he was a cpr doctor, but I didn't think the role cop claim would make sense. For him to lie about Eiii would mean that Eiii was either also part of the scum team, which didn't seem likely at that point, or he took a guess that Eiii actually followed the plan. Opps.
So deconduo, was alcohol really the result of that bizarre day one copycat claim? :p
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Nah, Decon left CRP to another mafia that the town couldn't find.
He probably realized that he couldn't "play along" with town if he picked CPR, and it was an important role so the mafia directed it towards someone else.
That being said, if I haven't had protected kita twice, game would have ended sooner for town, so I can assume that my play was pretty much the best it could be. ^__^
(and by play I mean targets during the night)
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WAIT WAIT WAIT
HOW IS THE GAME OVER? I HAD THE GAME IN MY GRASP. THE NEXT DAY I WOULD HAVE LYNCHED MYSELF TO TAKE DOWN JIMBO WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY -_-.. gg anyways
oh he was gonna shoot me. -_____-
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Definitely was banking on Kenpachi activating his lynch ability.
GG town...
This was a clusterfuck of a game and I probably contributed more than I should have to that. I did end up following LSB's plan but I wanted to take attention away (didn't work). It was clever of the mafia team to swap my role block, but it was foolish of cubed to not follow BC's night 3 plan at all.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On January 23 2011 03:00 Kenpachi wrote:WAIT WAIT WAIT HOW IS THE GAME OVER? I HAD THE GAME IN MY GRASP. THE NEXT DAY I WOULD HAVE LYNCHED MYSELF TO TAKE DOWN JIMBO WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY -_-.. gg anyways oh he was gonna shoot me. -_____-
Uh you can't shoot him unless he votes for you, and he doesn't have to do that when he buys a vote and doesn't use his.
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On January 23 2011 01:04 bumatlarge wrote:To jimbo, you my good sir deserve a... + Show Spoiler +Your vet claim fucked me over, It did. I wasted 2 hits on you thinking you were town vet, when you were really an imbalanced politician. I look forward to playing in PYP4 again. But then you might have to deal with my insane townie powers!
This is what I said earlier in the game after someone claimed BP, and JimboSilvers took a hit
On January 18 2011 06:03 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2011 05:55 aidnai wrote:Hmm... Assuming Jimbo claims vet, then he's a decent alternate medic target for cubed. I'm kinda hoping he claims bullet proof though, that'd be way more fun.  If Jimbo is Town aligned and is BP, he will have to bring this up for sure. (Proves someone is lying) If Jimbo is not Town, he can just claim veteran to avoid conflict.
I didn't think you would buy what he said...
On January 23 2011 02:09 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2011 19:22 Fishball wrote:
I did not want to play this game at first, but when BC joined, I also decided to sign up last moment. I gave myself two choices at that point.
1. Get Day Vigilante and kill BC the instant the game starts.
2. Destroy LSB's plan.
Getting Day Vigilante requires a very high draft. 6th wasn't high enough, plus I thought it would be a bit too lame even if I was able to pull the assassination off. It would be funny regardless. Obviously, I went with the latter.
How is 6 way too low for Day Vigi? It hasn't gone even close to that high in any game so far (18 in PYP3, 15 in PYP2, and 13 in PYP1).
You are very right. I had my train of thoughts mixed up there. It was like 3 am when I made that post 
There was actually a 3rd role I was considering, which is just "Vigilante". I didn't want to take Day Vigilante, kill BC, and sit on my ass for the rest of the game while taking criticism for sure regardless of what BC flips. So I considered taking Vigilante and just do my own thing, or take Traitor. Vigilante is what I actually meant when I said that my draft pick was too low to obtain.
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On January 23 2011 02:41 CubEdIn wrote:
Nah, Decon left CRP to another mafia that the town couldn't find.
He probably realized that he couldn't "play along" with town if he picked CPR, and it was an important role so the mafia directed it towards someone else.
That being said, if I haven't had protected kita twice, game would have ended sooner for town, so I can assume that my play was pretty much the best it could be. ^__^
(and by play I mean targets during the night)
If your intention of protecting kitaman27 was to stop him from hitting BC, then yes it would be a good play. However, that really isn't the case, lol.
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Haha bum, dont worry I'm not offended. Had you flipped town I'd have been surprised and think you were a retard but once you flipped red it was just a guarentee that I was right and you were trying to basically save your own hide. Overall the play on your team was too inactive and lurky. You guys really needed 1 or 2 of you to take the reigns of the town and push your own agenda, possibly bussing one of your own members in the process (like decon or halpo once fish was recruited).
If you guys had opted to be a bit more out in the open you potentially could have stopped me from pushing you all to death, and managed to instead get me or jimbo lynched by town.
As for you jimbo, you just need to learn how to make yourself really known in the thread and push your analysis. Had you been able to hit a level of thread presence that everyone would listen to you would have owned this very quickly. Just need a bit of practice at it and you will get there.
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I have not read anything but I will say this.
Suck it fishball.
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Great game. I wish I had lasted beyond night one.
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On January 23 2011 08:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I have not read anything but I will say this.
Suck it fishball.
You mad?
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haha, I am only mad you took the traitor role before I could.
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RebirthofLegend a Day 1 lynch? Not surprised lol.
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Allow two Traitors next game.
Madness solved.
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On January 23 2011 07:31 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2011 01:04 bumatlarge wrote:To jimbo, you my good sir deserve a... + Show Spoiler +Your vet claim fucked me over, It did. I wasted 2 hits on you thinking you were town vet, when you were really an imbalanced politician. I look forward to playing in PYP4 again. But then you might have to deal with my insane townie powers! This is what I said earlier in the game after someone claimed BP, and JimboSilvers took a hit Show nested quote +On January 18 2011 06:03 Fishball wrote:On January 18 2011 05:55 aidnai wrote:Hmm... Assuming Jimbo claims vet, then he's a decent alternate medic target for cubed. I'm kinda hoping he claims bullet proof though, that'd be way more fun. If Jimbo is Town aligned and is BP, he will have to bring this up for sure. (Proves someone is lying) If Jimbo is not Town, he can just claim veteran to avoid conflict. I didn't think you would buy what he said... Show nested quote +On January 23 2011 02:09 Qatol wrote:On January 22 2011 19:22 Fishball wrote:
I did not want to play this game at first, but when BC joined, I also decided to sign up last moment. I gave myself two choices at that point.
1. Get Day Vigilante and kill BC the instant the game starts.
2. Destroy LSB's plan.
Getting Day Vigilante requires a very high draft. 6th wasn't high enough, plus I thought it would be a bit too lame even if I was able to pull the assassination off. It would be funny regardless. Obviously, I went with the latter.
How is 6 way too low for Day Vigi? It hasn't gone even close to that high in any game so far (18 in PYP3, 15 in PYP2, and 13 in PYP1). You are very right. I had my train of thoughts mixed up there. It was like 3 am when I made that post There was actually a 3rd role I was considering, which is just "Vigilante". I didn't want to take Day Vigilante, kill BC, and sit on my ass for the rest of the game while taking criticism for sure regardless of what BC flips. So I considered taking Vigilante and just do my own thing, or take Traitor. Vigilante is what I actually meant when I said that my draft pick was too low to obtain.
I think I missed it then, because the first time I heard your PM concerning jimbo was when you were a day old bodybag and I had already sent in the hit for him. And a lot of people were posting legit claims, so I kinda bought jimbo's as a non-mafia. Should have added the numbers.
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On January 23 2011 08:55 Ace wrote:
RebirthofLegend a Day 1 lynch? Not surprised lol.
I THOUGHT OUR RELATIONSHIP OF HATE EVOLVED INTO SOMETHING MORE....something... meaningful?
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