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aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 22 2011 07:49 GMT
#1608
i'm so confused....
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 22 2011 07:51 GMT
#1610
Damn it, I had no idea politician could buy votes more than once.
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 22 2011 07:53 GMT
#1612
Well played Jimbo, GG.

Damn it damn it damn it we had him too...
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 22 2011 07:57 GMT
#1615
Now I see why you gotta bully town sometimes... X_X

Well, yeah, it was pretty smart not to play that card early because I for one completely ignored the possibility of politician after it never showed up...
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 22 2011 08:41 GMT
#1627
On January 22 2011 16:53 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 16:51 aidnai wrote:
Damn it, I had no idea politician could buy votes more than once.


My bad, I'll make that clear next time in the OP v_v

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 16:53 aidnai wrote:
Well played Jimbo, GG.

Damn it damn it damn it we had him too...


Yea Jimbo played one hell of an SK game. He NEVER used his Politician power the entire game which was amazing patience.

Your end game analysis was really wrong though. Jimbo was right - If he is an SK Vet or Town Vet lynching him gets you no where. Really you're just giving the SK another night to shoot. You won't get any information from wasting that lynch. With 5 (4) players and 48 hours if you can't decide then what will another 48 hours with no Town Night Actions do?

However, there WAS a way out. And this is one of the very few times I'd ever say a townie should do this - Kenpachi get himself lynched. This way you get TWO flips in one day as town. Kenpachi gets flipped innocent and if he doesn't want to die you might have your SK. If he's not SK he gets lynched and shoots the Scummiest person on the wagon when he flips Godfather - that being whoever you guys convince him it is. The only hiccup in this plan is that all of you have to agree that ONE person is confirmed innocent and they can't vote. The other 3 would all have to vote and then give Kenpachi a 33% chance of shooting the SK and winning the game.


I was going for a 2v1 situation. And, as I said, if Jimbo was vet SK, then NOT lynching him was insta-loss -- plus, I have given my reasons for thinking Jimbo was the prime suspect. Kenpachi and Eiii I was pretty sure about, beneather and misder I had misgivings about, and Jimbo was numero uno. By lynching jimbo, even if he was town vet, we were headed towards 2v1 where there's a lot less wrong guesses to make.

How is any of this wrong?

The kenpachi/godfather thing is an interesting idea, but
a) would never have thought of that because SK is bulletproof, i.e. only a lynch will kill?
b) would require every single player to agree, including SK ?
c) leaves the game in the hands of kenpachi ?
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 22 2011 09:12 GMT
#1633
Hmm.. so it could have worked... but, only if misder and Eiii were active

I had no idea we were on such a precipice. But I think the errors at the end of the game were not as significant as several earlier on.

1) LSB's plan was horrible for town. I regret that I did not pay much attention during this stage of the game. I know LSB loves his plans, I didn't see anything wrong until BC did his analysis. Direct results of the plan:
-Mafia got CC and CPR doc rather safely, it only slipped away from them because of later errors.
-Mafia got a fairly accurate role list
-etc

2) Not directing Deconduo's hit night one.

3) No lynch on Deconduo day 2 wtf? There was no reason to leave an anti town KP alive (well, we thought he had KP), regardless of promises...

4) due to my poor posting day 1, I was forced to use my role early to prove myself and ended up not just wasting it, but actually saving a scum Note for the future, don't be a scumbag day 1, especially when you have a role... I could have used Witch much more effectively after night 2

Almost all of this was apathy at some level, but knowing that town is too lazy to direct deconduo's lynch and then leaving deconduo alive to do his own thing? wow...

Meh, rather than reflect on mistakes, I would like to bask in some of the glorious moments... Bum vs. BC was ecstasy for me And I liked BC in general dismantling LSB and then the scum team. I was extremely suspicious of BC until LSB flipped, then it started clicking... Great job, mad props to you BC.
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 24 2011 05:05 GMT
#1663
Thanks for taking the time to write all that BC.

I think I should be on the list too though (of people who cheated town out of the win). Since I don't really give a crap about plans and whatnot, I paid no attention whatsoever to the whole pregame discussion and drafting/role picking portions of the game. This had two horrible effects: 1) I completely missed LSB's behavioural problems, and 2) I deliberately made "modkill avoidance posts" which of course look horribly scummy. This led to me later having to use my role too early, and not only did I waste it I actually saved haplo X_X ... If I had saved barundar like I obviously should have, we would have had a MUCH more useful townie (my impression is that barundar is a fairly capable player) and one less scum to lynch later.

Ace, I had actually thrown myself in the pile of "people who are always wrong" as well, which is why I had a hard time posting forcefully this game. And, for the most part, I was wrong. I thought Jimbo was town (until near the end), I thought Haplo was coherent and/or useful day one, I thought LSB was doing his normal plan thing, I thought BC was damn suspicious, I thought Amber was scum, I thought beneather was scum, and I believed fishball's reasoning showing why he wasn't traitor. BUT I did get some things right this game too... I saw the light when LSB flipped and I reinvestigated BC. I knew his plan for bum/haplo/pig made sense and was the right thing to do. And I do think that trying to get jimbo lynched was the smartest move for town at the end when the scum were already gone, not just because he claimed vet...

Anyway, thanks for hosting Ace, GG all, play with you again soon I hope.
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