EPTOn January 19 2011 11:16 kitaman27 wrote:
I rarely give these out, but double heart for you!
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I rarely give these out, but double heart for you!
<3 <3
If pod is red and used his power, we lose, right now. No joke.
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If pod is red and used his power, we lose, right now. No joke. | ||
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When fishball flipped recruited traitor, decon's story was shot, period. We just know hes a spent CC red. seriously, how have you missed this? the mafia are staring you in the face, I GAVE YOU THEM and a plan to off them / drop their NK's and instead of following said plan, a townie tries to waste his shot again, and our rbing med rb's the vig. Smart fucking, move. | ||
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On January 19 2011 11:25 CubEdIn wrote: Well, if I did rb pigg and he was town, then I would've died for nothing (as kita would've killed you). I agree following your plan the next day, if it works, and if decon doesn't prove himself. And don't call me dumb, since I was raging at decon for being red FIRST. You guys were the smart-asses who said it was UNLIKELY (you and LSB). So fuck that. We chose to trust him, then carry it to the end. If he doesn't prove anything tonight, you can fucking lynch him. The end. lynch the c p r, not the spent red. Killing decon doesn't lower kp, offing one of the two who has cpr does -_- | ||
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On January 19 2011 11:43 CubEdIn wrote: Hey, GG, I wasn't gonna protect PoD anyway, since I was hoping for a hit on him. Blame the actual roleblocker. ^_^ No, i blame you. Amber took care bum or halpo. Whichever he hit stopped a hit, as only two people died. This means he hit the cpr/sk. kita kp blocked cpr/sk blocked mafia + unblocked role of cpr/sk hits made it through. Just throwing it out there. | ||
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On January 19 2011 11:52 Ace wrote: By the way remember there are currently 12 players alive right now. and depending on the 4 night kills town loses. It comes down to if we want to let mafia or sk win. | ||
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On January 19 2011 11:57 Kenpachi wrote: I feel so doomed with only 12 people alive. the KP against town is strong as hell and at this rate, we would lose tomorrow. Kita before you die, you should take down pigsquirrel. I think the next in line would be BC and kita. the 3rd KP would probably kill me or Jimbo. I would assume that the surviving player of these lucky 4 will be mafia. If town wants to win, kita will shoot bum. Plain and simple. town can lynch pig/decon/halpo at their leisure. sk may or may not shoot one of them, but if amber followed my plan he roleblocked halpo. IE bum is the cpr (provided sk doesn't have the role). Halpo is then parity, decon is cc and pig just showed hes red / pod. kita shoots bum, mafia loses a kp, if kita gets shot like we think he will, thats two kp a night gone, leaving town ahead to lynch the mafia / sk and win this game. IT hinges on offing a kp in tonights hits though. IF sk was nice he would shoot halpo, and kita would shoot bum, but chances are kita will shoot at me again, mafia off two townies and sk coin clips on offing a townie / a red. | ||
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as for stopping their hits from going through? the plan was to drop their kp last night bum would die and flip cpr, or halpo would be blocked and if kp dropped he was cpr. pig as we can see was mafia pod. | ||
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On January 19 2011 12:53 aidnai wrote: Can our two information roles claim what they found last night? ....... parity cop is red, rolecop isn't rolecop its cpr doctor. or the sk is cpr doctor, regardless bum/halpo are red. Their claims would mean nothing. | ||
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On January 19 2011 13:22 HaploPaithan wrote: I was not roleblocked last night. So it must have been bum who was. I viewed pigsquirrel last night and got the result different. I was hoping to determine if he was scum or not based on the view. Then lynch tomorrow so they wouldn't use PoD. Too bad they used it already. This puts Jimbo and Bum as town and Pigsquirrel as Scum obviously. Right now it would seem that it is 7/4/1. BC has picked out myself, bum, pigsquirrel and deconduo as the 4 scum. If i had to guess, I'd figure that Jumbo also agrees with him. If that is the case then scum will lose without the help of the SK. If i were scum, i certainly wouldn't be relying on the SK to help me win. It would be much better to wait a day and then use PoD. Scum had no guarentee about who Kita would kill. It seemed likely that kita would potentially target Bum or Deconduo last night. This seems like a big gamble and not worth waiting another night or 2 to reveal the PoD. It would have required no roleblock on the CPR, no protections on their targets, and for Kita to not hit one of us. I think we should be looking elsewhere. I'm looking at BC pretty heavily here. He is using a scare tactic of scum outright winning if we don't do as he says. This isn't really the case. We know for sure who a scum is, pigsquirrel. Yet he doesn't want to use the town's only KP on a guaranteed scum hit. He also considers Deconduo to be a scum, yet again isn't pushing for his death. Instead he wants to kill off Bum with the town KP and is hoping that the SK will kill off myself. The 2 players on his list least likely to be scum. If town and SK KP are used tonight to kill off Townies, then the game will go 3/4/1. Pretty much cementing a mafia win. We need to watch out for this. Other players that are potentially scum could include Misder, Beaneather, Aidnai, or Kenpachi. Though my personal opinion is that Aidnai is a town who is being swayed by BC. I will agree that Deconduo is probably scum. So if anything we should be playing it safe and killing off pigsquirrel or deconduo. Perhaps SK will help us, perhaps not. I'd personally say to kill Pigsquirrel tonight in hopes that Deconduo is actually the SK. Deconduo tomorrow. Sorry if this post is a mess. Took awhile to write and I don't like the way it turned out. But hopefully you guys understand what I'm trying to say. Hi, im the resident asshole, posting logically is something I have done overall all game. Now, lets break your post down. BC has picked out myself, bum, pigsquirrel and deconduo as the 4 scum. If i had to guess, I'd figure that Jumbo also agrees with him. If that is the case then scum will lose without the help of the SK. Now lets look at the numbers. 7v4v1 Tonight mafia hits two players. 5v4v1 sk hits town 4v4v1 town hits mafia 4v3v1 Now, if town doesn't kill cpr in the red that dies it comes down to a lynch. Lets say town lynches a mafia 4v2v1 IF town misses cpr again 2v2v1 SK shoots a town 1v2v1 mafia controls vote basically, sk lynched mafia wins, town lynched sk wins. TOWN can't win if sk helps mafia Town vig will not live past its one hit as well. now lets start over 7v4v1 Town hits mafia sk hits mafia 7v2v1 mafia hits x2 town 5v2v1 Now, in this position, SK will not shoot a mafia as he will lose. Town must now lynch cpr mafia (lets say it does for this part). 5v1v1 mafia shoots town sk shoots town 3v1v1 Town lynches mafia 3v0v1 sk hits town 2v0v1 town lynches sk town win. IF town misses the cpr mafia in its lynching above 5v1v1 mafia x2 hits town sk hits town 2v1v1 town cannot win, mafia or sk win based off lynch. Mafia can win without SK helping them, town cannot win without sk helping them. Your logic is fundamentally incorrect. Next, kenpachi and aidnai are essentially confirmed. AS much as kita annoys the fuck out of me for shooting at me, he is confirmed almost 90%. Eiii is confirmed town based on red sniping his role (sup halpo). There are 4 confirmed of the 7 town players. My actions at this point should have put me on that list, makes 5. Now, whos left, jimbo, misder, bum, decon, beneather, halpo, and pig. Of this list, we know decon is red, as is pig. 2 red jimbo misder, bum, beneather, halpo. of these 5, we know 2 are red, 1 is sk. Bum said he was going to follow the town plan, as did halpo, both did not. Both have sat back and lurked the thread "actively reading" yet not being helpful or participating. They also both have "investigative roles" that have all been used on players who have claimed/alignment been clearly displayed before they posted, ie faked results. This makes bum and halpo the last two reds. jimbo, misder, beneather, 2 town, 1 sk. OF the three of them, beneather and jimbo could possibly be the sk, I don't believe misder is, as well, his play style just screams his regular play as town. You now push that i don't want town to off the confirmed reds. GUESS what. Unless the red cpr doctor dies, town cannot win. Period. You can say its a mafia move, but unless the mafia cpr dies, the town loses. The numbers show it. Now obviously above the mafia could fail to hit a townie and shoot the sk keeping one townie alive longer, but the numbers show if all kp goes through. Town has to play a perfect game, or it loses, and it needs the sk to help to do it. By posting that the scum needs the sk to win just proves my point that you are red. Since you explicitly state decon and pig are obviously red, then link yourself to bum as "the two most unlikely reds" while posting the most scum filled post you have posted so far you just revealed your entire team to the town, while attempting very poorly to bus me. You also post your list of "scum" who include 2 confirmed townies, and two more confirmed town. Cool thanks. With your information beneather, aidnai, kenpachi, and misder are not mafia. We know kita is town, and we know based on your role steal/"checks" aidnai is not mafia, and based on actions we know jimbo and and I aren't mafia. You confirmed your entire team, and now all we have to do is analyze the sk. Ok town, if you refuse to see everything now, I honestly don't know what else it will take. | ||
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On January 19 2011 14:03 HaploPaithan wrote: I'll respond to this in the morning/afternoon when I have more time to think. I'm tired and need to sleep. IE "ill respond to this when my team figures out how to respond to it" | ||
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On January 20 2011 08:01 kitaman27 wrote: @SK I doubt I have to explain it to you, but it is in your best interest to hit a scum. The PoD was used in an attempt to gain control of the lynch. You are the scum's number one lynch target, while the town is hunting for the cpr doctor and remaining mafia. I will be not hitting deconduo tonight. If you want to prevent hit overlap, I suggest he be your target. ........ SK shoot bum Kita shoot Halpo. For fucks sake, no overlap kills, cpr/parity die. I am writing up why bum's post is full of shit right now, but seriously kita, if you want to win this game just follow my advice this one time. | ||
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On January 20 2011 07:47 bumatlarge wrote: I was roleblocked last night. I tried to rolecheck BC, as I am pretty sure either he or pig has CPR. So it's very clear from my perspective that the following are mafia. Deconduo HaploPaithan BC PigSquirrel This seems pretty clear now. Though I am not sure Haplo actually has parity, I don't even believe he knows how it functions. Look. "I got the result same?" I'd like for him to clarify. But he should have it. So! Decon = CC Haplo = parity (have to check this, there might be some more slight possiblities, but that would involve kita being CPR rather then vig, would be retarded for mafia to take things like parity/mason instead of extra KP) BC = PoD/CPR Pig = PoD/CPR Assuming kita gets shot, he needs to hit either of those two so we can lynch the other. BC has conveniently assumed PoD is pig, but that is completely interchangeable in every scenario. I bet every shred of my dignity that BC has PoD, and pig has CPR. I get shot this night, I pop town. BC then proceeds to get lynched, and mafia has another night of CPR. This is the obvious situation at hand. I guess I have to really defend my integrity here? BC has constantly downplayed me for my 'lack of contribution' which I find ABSURD. He hasn't pointed out anyone that someone hasn't already. Guess why deonduo is CONFIRMED NON-TOWNIE? ME MOTHER FUCKERS. WHY, on this lovely green planet would I EVER point this out? Of course he was already getting shit, and likely someone would have pointed this out, but I did keep my vote on him the rest of the day. He nearly got lynched (I did say I would have taken my vote off, but the dry wall wasnt going to do itself) when I didn't need to keep the vote there and buy mafia another day with a no lynch (which they got anyway, because certain individuals were splitting the vote on decon and fish). What was BC doing? Paving the way for a mafia victory. He really did a great job getting LSB out there and having deconduo kill him (no sarcasm, really nice catch BC  ). Speaking of that, let's see this again...Now I'm counting these out again. That's what decon said he thought it came to... LSB: 5 BC: 5-6 FB: 3 Now let me guess, both BC and FB were not going to get shot no matter how those votes went? Seems pretty obvious now in hindsight. And also, looking back on the 40-45 pages, haplo, deconduo and pig all call me town and call BC mafia. Take that as you will, but as I see it, maybe this plan was really forming after only zeks died night 2. That's pretty awesome. I can post them if people would like. And I'm not going to use real life as an excuse. There was time when I could have gotten on and did some soul-searching in this thread, but I decided not to. I started writing my visit to Eiii, but it appears more pressing matters are at hand. I'm assuming Amber RB'd me by the way, which is unfortunate, because then I could point out for certain whether Pig or BC is CPR. Good luck kita, it's your decision DONT LET THAT BC DUDE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. FIGHT THE POWER. My only response to you is going to be bolding your miscount where you directly lie. With that your fate as lying mafia gets sealed. Honestly, do you guys not read your own posts? I bolded the votes above where Bum counts aidnai's vote twice, misrepresents that amber voted both for myself and fishball. making the counts actually Fishball: 2-3 BC: 3 - 5 LSB: 4 - 5. LSB is still ahead overall in numbers as at a minimum more people wanted him dead. Now, for the rest who are interested in massive lies by him, read his last bit where he is "conveniently" roleblocked when the plan for amber was to block halpo and kita shoot bum. Amber didn't disagree with this plan he merely added that cube should pick pig over decon due to pigs role. This seems to me at least he was on board with it, as rather than fix it, he would have criticized it. Meaning if he followed the plan, bum again lies. Bum has been caught lying all game, he is lying now. Halpo promised to be back hours ago with a post to defend himself, and no show, and here we have bum trying to bus his entire team. This to me means he is trying his best to save his own ass. Which red at this point has to survive the longest for the mafia to win? the cpr doctor. He just gave himself up guys, do the right thing. | ||
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On January 17 2011 07:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I will speak from experience. When I was Traitor back when the role was first introduced to TL, I knew If i got intouch with the mafia I could help them, except I also had to be active enough and not appear as scum. To this regards I analyzed. Pointing out people you think are "red" but not pushing them to a lynch is a good sign for reds to spot you and make contact. Fishball has "analyzed" multiple people this game but never pushed for a lynch. If you believe he is traitor these would be the signs you are looking for, subtle clues in thread to reveal who he is. With a list of 5-6 players it woudl take mafia forever to find him on their own without luck. Him giving signs (finding a few of them, or giving off tell tale signs) would be what they need. The fatal mistake in your thinking is that just because hes traitor (in a no pm game no less) that he will just sit back and wait for them to find him, he has to meet them halfway, or find them. IF fishball is the traitor, I can almost guarentee you that decon is mafia by association. I say this because if an SK is going to shoot who everyone thinks the traitor is, mafia wouldn't waste their med on the cause as any mafia action would auto recruit him, (would take two meds or fishball having bulletproof/vet to live). As such, if fish is traitor, it would make more sense for decon to be red, claim he is going to hit him, mafia any powerrole that isnt kp targets fish and recruits him. They now lie about the hit. This leaves mafia two kp to use (keep in mind if decon is red, cpr is going to be 100% in mafia hands). Mafia takes a shot at kita hoping to take out a town kp role, and shoots jimbo for being smart, the second sk shoots zeks as it benefits him completely (zeks claimed mason). That situation seems the most plausible to me. IT also means that if the situation I just outlined is correct that kita/amber/kenpachi/cube are all instantly confirmed as town. You can say you proved decon was anti town bum, but my post proved he was mafia. However, your post merely played off of this anyway On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote: Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo Guess what, jimbo posted first, and in that post he analyzed decon and found him anti town. Guess what your post did, helped narrow down who had the CC, not an antitown your post helped find our CC. Good job though bum. Keep in mind that you can try your best to take credit for things, but anyone who wants to read can see decon was getting votes, lsb pinned him on CC, and had detailed analysis on him before you even appeared. Stop lying and die already. | ||
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On January 20 2011 08:39 bumatlarge wrote: Oh, I did count Aidnai twice. My bad. Doesn't matter as you were never going to get hit anyway. Didn't you tell amber to RB me? I was to busy NOT FOLLOWING YOUR PLAN. I got Roleblocked, plain and simple. I never lied intentionally this entire game. I just make mistakes counting abstract votes that never really mattered. I think kita plans on shooting you anyway, which is good. But I'm still convinced Pig is the CPR. The fact that you assume I am the CPR in your theory is so shortsighted, that it's fairly clear what your agenda is. How is it 100% certain that I am CPR? Because you already know who it is, and for this to work, I have to die first, and then you get lynched, viola CPR is alive. Am I right BC? I mean, you weren't roleblocked this night and it went off? Pig was roleblocked night 2 and only zeks died? Maybe I'm misinterpreting how you positioned everything. And I said LSB's list was a good guideline I didn't pick RC because LSB told me to. Funny how you make that one of my main flaws. And now you are getting desperate because either:1) Pig gets hit, and you lost any chance of winning 2) You get hit, and pop PoD and we lynch Pig then Your room for accusing me of lying and then making my choice to take Role Cop is closed off now  No, no it isnt. You specifically said you weren't going to follow it and did, factor in we know either you or halpo has parity, factor in we have pig not only claim red but pod. Decon is CC, bam we have 3 mafia roles on 4 players. As halpo was the one on the slate to be roleblocked (why would amber rb you if you were supposed to be vigi'd) and we have our cpr. Funny how you bring me up for a lynch target. I am town, I have found your entire team, pinned you each to your roles, and you bring up a lynch? I expect to get shot either by your team or sk. If kita shoots me again he guarentee's town loss which is what you, halpo, pig, and decon have been aiming for all game. Who in this game has pushed the hardest for me to die? You, Pig, Halpo, Decon, Aidnai, Fishball. Fishball flipped red traitor Aidnai has said he believes i am town now pig has claimed mafia Decon is Mafia Halpo linked you and he as only legit townies this game (yet doesn't try to check you to prove that?) Links to red by many people, you just bussed him You claim halpo is red and are red on more than 1 person's list. Wow, 5 of 6 red players have been accusing me for ages. Yes, I am obviously red, that is why my team has been busing me all game. Now to catch you again. You mention pig was rb'd night 2 and only zeks died? Guess what Kita shot at me and was rb'd jimbo took a hit kita took a hit zeks died 4 hits. Voila, you again try to pin cpr on me, but all the hits were accounted 4. You try to change lie into mistake, however, purposeful misrepresentation of facts are indeed lies. I feel bad for you bum, you guys tried to play this game the same way as every other red team in recent games, idle by and do dick all and let town off itself. You must not have expected to have to deal with someone capable of analyzing you and calling you out, let alone someone who could defend theirself while revealing your lies in the process. | ||
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