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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
As a reminder my mason partner is verified as pro-town but until I get his permission I won't claim him yet. | ||
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HaploPaithan
United States100 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:28 JimboSilvers wrote: Oh hey nice of you to come in and post! You act like I've been inactive. I feel like i've been fairly active the whole game. I had some tests and a lot of homework the last few days, so I haven't been as active as I could have been, but what can you do when you're an engineering student. I've been more active than you obviously since I haven't gotten a warning. On your list : why would we kill the SK? First off we can't kill him at night since he's bulletproof, and second we need to kill mafia, not SK. We're in a terrible position given its 16 players and 5, potentially 6 mafia, and a bunch of KP. Oops. Forgot about that. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll talk about your other point in a minute. Anything else to say about Fishball other than "likely traitor"? You mention bumatlarge and say other people seem to want to lynch him. What do YOU think? I'm not feeling conviction here. Along with the other questionable picks on your list, I'm just feeling like you're trying to pick easy candidates here. I talk about each player a little bit more in the paragraph after the list. I really want something to get done tonight. I picked the list not only based on my personal opinion but one what appears to have been the towns opinions as well. + Show Spoiler + All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch. As for bumatlarge, I personally don't feel he has been all the suspicious. TBH I put him on the list because Deconduo already said he was going to kill him. Why Misder over other lurkers like zeks? At this point, i feel town needs all the blue roles possible. Zeks had the potential to be tracker or something, so he wasn't as high on my list. I feel like if misder was a blue townie he would be more active. So he is either a scum laying low, or a green townie imo. I think him being a scum is more likely. Beneather and Pigsquirrel are also other lurkers. Why do you seem to be targeting Zeks in particular? Also: Why do you think you'll be targetted again? And why do you think you're so important that we need to save your life? Your most recent post is just atrocious. kitaman, please ignore my last request and shoot this loser instead. I already said I was biased here. I don't think I'm the best person to guard, but I'd like to give him some options. There was probably a reason why I was targeted last night, I'm not sure why, but that reason possibly still holds, so there is a chance I'm a target again tonight. As for telling about the doctor protection tonight, I've explained why I think its beneficial. It can certainly be argued otherwise as well. I'd rather not get screwed over if possible though. You propose quite a few new targets in your post. This is what I was trying to avoid. I really want town to come to a clear consensus. If you keep throwing in more targets, nothing will get done. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
And BC has upgraded to 25% town 75% mafia in my book. Shame he decided to not help at all during the first day  And should I reveal what info I have now? | ||
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HaploPaithan
United States100 Posts
On January 16 2011 00:10 HaploPaithan wrote: You act like I've been inactive. I feel like i've been fairly active the whole game. I had some tests and a lot of homework the last few days, so I haven't been as active as I could have been, but what can you do when you're an engineering student. I've been more active than you obviously since I haven't gotten a warning. Oops. Forgot about that. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll talk about your other point in a minute. I talk about each player a little bit more in the paragraph after the list. I really want something to get done tonight. I picked the list not only based on my personal opinion but one what appears to have been the towns opinions as well. + Show Spoiler + All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch. As for bumatlarge, I personally don't feel he has been all the suspicious. TBH I put him on the list because Deconduo already said he was going to kill him. At this point, i feel town needs all the blue roles possible. Zeks had the potential to be tracker or something, so he wasn't as high on my list. I feel like if misder was a blue townie he would be more active. So he is either a scum laying low, or a green townie imo. I think him being a scum is more likely. Beneather and Pigsquirrel are also other lurkers. Why do you seem to be targeting Zeks in particular? I already said I was biased here. I don't think I'm the best person to guard, but I'd like to give him some options. There was probably a reason why I was targeted last night, I'm not sure why, but that reason possibly still holds, so there is a chance I'm a target again tonight. As for telling about the doctor protection tonight, I've explained why I think its beneficial. It can certainly be argued otherwise as well. I'd rather not get screwed over if possible though. You propose quite a few new targets in your post. This is what I was trying to avoid. I really want town to come to a clear consensus. If you keep throwing in more targets, nothing will get done. EBWOP: I also made of list of decent targets to protect in case the town did decide that not revealing the protect was the best choice. | ||
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HaploPaithan
United States100 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On January 16 2011 00:21 bumatlarge wrote: Great, an SK is going to kill me now lol? Well, he does get props for dayvig'n a fellow SK, and no he really has to gun for scum now. Well I can tell you deconduo, if this is your new goal in helping town, killing me won't be helping you. And BC has upgraded to 25% town 75% mafia in my book. Shame he decided to not help at all during the first day And should I reveal what info I have now? You haven't helped at all, so your 95% red, 5% town, yay for made up stats? | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On January 16 2011 01:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You haven't helped at all, so your 95% red, 5% town, yay for made up stats? Well if that's how you legitimately feel, I'm not going to argue with that. Doesn't help you though in the eyes of everyone else. Mafia want to kill SK a lot more desperately then town atm. Guess the next the thing on the agenda is lynching deconduo and then scouting around for anymore SKs? And name one thing in this game I haven't given a correct output on. I'm not going to argue with you further until later, because I don't have the means to get rid you. You should probably try to kill me tonight while we townies still have this deficient intelligence. Maybe your mafia squad can still save face and help lynch you. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On January 16 2011 02:35 bumatlarge wrote: Well if that's how you legitimately feel, I'm not going to argue with that. Doesn't help you though in the eyes of everyone else. Mafia want to kill SK a lot more desperately then town atm. Guess the next the thing on the agenda is lynching deconduo and then scouting around for anymore SKs? And name one thing in this game I haven't given a correct output on. I'm not going to argue with you further until later, because I don't have the means to get rid you. You should probably try to kill me tonight while we townies still have this deficient intelligence. Maybe your mafia squad can still save face and help lynch you. Your inactive dude. I know I'm not red, and have no idea of your role. HOWEVER You are a veteran player. You know behavioural analysis is what wins games, instead your just sitting back and not actively participating. You have seen the current games, or at least should have heard of them. Towns are getting slaughtered for having no idea how to analyze. You as an experienced player should be showing them how to go about this, instead your sitting back. I honestly don't care you think I'm red, my issue is that only one player has seriously laid any analysis on me, which he stopped doing once I responded to said analysis, he even said he would hold back judgement until more experienced players commented on one of my comments and no one responded. Stop lurking, start playing. You should know better. | ||
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JimboSilvers
United Kingdom167 Posts
On January 15 2011 18:49 Fishball wrote: So you think that if kitaman hits me, and I flip traitor, that mean's he is confirmed innocent? You just said there is a possibility of 3 SK's. If kitaman is a SK, then nothing is confirmed. Being/claiming vigilante is like one of the best covers a SK can get. A SK doesn't align with Town or Mafia, and is only there for himself. He can easily stick around and "follow" Town's instruction to the end. A SK won't die to Night hits, and since the Day Vig already used his hit, a SK's only threat is the Day lynch. As long as the SK is under cover as a vigilante, and utilizes his ability "in favor" of Town, he won't have to worry about getting lynched, and can wait till the time is right to make a move. Also, I don't know exactly what you mean by "doesn't contribute". If pointing out sense (like what I did just now), and being involved with catching a SK isn't contributing, then we obviously have different understands of this term. Also keep in mind, I have been in the middle of the picture for quite a few times. It's not exactly easy that I can somehow make everyone worship me and we can happily go scum hunting. If you think that yourself, popping out once or twice a day, generalizing your "facts" and accusing people is contributing, then I rest my case. Oh, and me being a "troublemaker"? Hahaha. This is exactly what I mean. SK's are not mafia. So you really don't get any brownie points for finding them. You just pop out and accuse me, maybe for accusing you. But since I've now switched to Haplo, you should be all cool with that, right? Unless you're trying to defend some mafia buddies. But we can wait on that judgment. On January 15 2011 19:21 Fishball wrote: Funny how Ace just warned Jimbosilvers is in danger of being modkilled. So this inactive guy pops out and calls 3 people useless. Huge irony there. Most of us are well aware of those that are inactive, and what they have done. I've even brought up Beneather based on his other mistakes before. It's quite obvious I could be used as the perfect scapegoat, but choosing a couple more inactives for his analysis and accuse them, hardly makes him any more useful, especially when he is inactive himself. It would not surprise me if JimboSilvers had a different agenda behind his back. There's a difference between being not being omnipresent in the thread and being useless. I may not respond to every post or give my thoughts on all the nonsense you people create, but I don't need to, and I don't have the time to. Notice how every time I do post, I post content. Notice how everytime I post something there's strong resistance to everything I say. I'd say its just the mafia afraid of me. Ever notice how we aren't really getting anywhere? Especially you. Popping out and accusing me without really accusing me, and selectively reading my posts. Coolio. KP roles please read my above posts and think about it hard. I don't have to get into a shit flinging fest in order to get my point across. | ||
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JimboSilvers
United Kingdom167 Posts
At this point, i feel town needs all the blue roles possible. Zeks had the potential to be tracker or something, so he wasn't as high on my list. I feel like if misder was a blue townie he would be more active. So he is either a scum laying low, or a green townie imo. I think him being a scum is more likely. No, at this point we don't care about blue roles. We care about finding scum. Unless zeks has a good reason for his inactivity, we should shoot him because he's strong suspect imo. If you don't want to read my earlier analysis thats fine. I'm not going to repost it. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On January 16 2011 03:11 JimboSilvers wrote: This is exactly what I mean. SK's are not mafia. So you really don't get any brownie points for finding them. You just pop out and accuse me, maybe for accusing you. But since I've now switched to Haplo, you should be all cool with that, right? Unless you're trying to defend some mafia buddies. But we can wait on that judgment. There's a difference between being not being omnipresent in the thread and being useless. I may not respond to every post or give my thoughts on all the nonsense you people create, but I don't need to, and I don't have the time to. Notice how every time I do post, I post content. Notice how everytime I post something there's strong resistance to everything I say. I'd say its just the mafia afraid of me. Ever notice how we aren't really getting anywhere? Especially you. Popping out and accusing me without really accusing me, and selectively reading my posts. Coolio. KP roles please read my above posts and think about it hard. I don't have to get into a shit flinging fest in order to get my point across. You are my favorite new player! I honestly hope you keep this level of performance up in other games. | ||
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JimboSilvers
United Kingdom167 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
(I still would also like to hear from Amber about his roleblocking target and his reasons for moving off fishball in the previous lynch and from dec about his kp target so we don't overlap) On January 11 2011 22:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: ##vote layoffrage Heading off to work and won't be back tonight, but LoR is the safest lynch target for today. Out of myself, fishball and him we are most likely the three most experienced players, and I know i'm town, which means at least one of fishball and him is most likely red. Out of those two, LoR has given the most reasons as why he is most likely a better lynch target. On January 15 2011 10:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Simple, Fish is smarter to keep around atm, decon is potentially helping us. On January 15 2011 10:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Fish is an intelligent player, he knows to keep alive he (if red) has to play a very dangerous game which means he has to help the town to stay alive. First, lets contrast this questionable reasoning: Rol: Possibly a traitor. Experienced player, so probably scum. Fish: Possibly a traitor. Experienced player, so great to keep around. Ulterior motive? On January 14 2011 14:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Point 4 Two simple reasons for choice of GF. 1) deny a scummy looking player his role 2) take a role that would give me a KP to use as I don't see very many people focusing on behavioural analysis anymore. IN ANY GAME. As its a role that was less likely to be noticed for its KP purposes I went for it. It fits my style completely. This fits your style completely? You do realize that you have to be lynched in order to use this kp, right? If you are town, why would you foresee yourself getting lynched in the first place? Aren't you the type of player that gets sniped at night, not lynched during the day. What did you intend to do if you got checked by bulletbill? "Opps, its okay guys. I'm godfather. No worries!" On January 14 2011 01:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote: The reason of choosing a role purely to deny it from the mafia seems far too unlikely. Either he has an ulterior motive on top of that, or huge FoS on him. You actually say it best yourself. The godfather role has far more scum applications than town. I'm not sure I buy that you selected it to deny the role and use a lynch kp, over the possible remaining pro-town roles. On January 14 2011 01:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Now we move onto LSB. I can't fault him too terribly for not speaking up about gf as well, I didn't get it either and was waiting to see if he spoke up saying he got it before bringing it up, however. Yet you did. Many times. It's great you helped find a SK, but as a scum desperate to quickly find a day vig target, LSB would have been the best choice. On January 14 2011 14:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: the way I hit people as mafia is unique compared to most players. Guess what, none of the people who died fit my criteria for night 1 hits. Huh? What is this even supposed to mean? Since the death list doesn't match your "system" you are supposed to be given a free pass? On January 14 2011 14:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: No excuse at all. If you have convictions that someone is town, you don't vote for them, period. On January 15 2011 10:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I will however change my vote to whoever is most likely to die. IE be the hammer vote. You contradict yourself here. You don't vote for fish because you don't have a strong enough belief he is scum and don't want to accidentally vote off an innocent town. Yet now you agree if majority is about to be reached, you will join the bandwagon, regardless of your personal beliefs. Sounds as if you are just providing an excuse for yourself why you won't commit. On January 16 2011 03:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You are my favorite new player! I honestly hope you keep this level of performance up in other games. Heh flatery. I'm sure we've all seen this used before. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On January 16 2011 02:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Your inactive dude. I know I'm not red, and have no idea of your role. HOWEVER You are a veteran player. You know behavioural analysis is what wins games, instead your just sitting back and not actively participating. You have seen the current games, or at least should have heard of them. Towns are getting slaughtered for having no idea how to analyze. You as an experienced player should be showing them how to go about this, instead your sitting back. I honestly don't care you think I'm red, my issue is that only one player has seriously laid any analysis on me, which he stopped doing once I responded to said analysis, he even said he would hold back judgement until more experienced players commented on one of my comments and no one responded. Stop lurking, start playing. You should know better. That's good advice, even though I'd think PYP can be tons more information based, but that for every piece of information given, you can form now analysis around it. I will try to analyze a player I find suspicious, but as of this moment, analysis involves opportunity to lynch. Assuming we do lynch deconduo or not (our relationship with him is completely information based as of now since he is playing for his survival), we do not get a lynch til say day 4. I take some blame for not being here for the end of the day to help persuade those to actually push a lynch through. But really to anyone who abstained on that day or didn't think that was important, that is either obvious scum play or everyone is daft. Also BC... On January 16 2011 03:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You are my favorite new player! I honestly hope you keep this level of performance up in other games. I've said this twice now about Jimbo during day 1. Have you really been paying attention this game? -_- Stop stealing my compliments! | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On January 15 2011 19:55 Fishball wrote: See, players like you are the ones that make me frown, and shouldn't even be playing. First I had to deal with Kenpachi and now you. Obviously you weren't here last night, did not follow the thread, skimmed through most of it, saw Ace's post and made your comment. Hey, look what I found regarding my vote? + Show Spoiler + On January 15 2011 09:34 Fishball wrote: #vote Abstain for now. I'm willing to let Deconduo live for now, as he did do Town a favor, and he didn't lie about the Day Vig role. On January 15 2011 11:04 Fishball wrote: I hate to say this, but how hard headed are you? Look at the list. What other options do I have? I won't vote myself, I decided to not vote for deconduo. So ok, I try to go for the Traitor. What options do I have? Kenpachi kitaman27 Amber[Light] CubEdIn None of you are exactly voted for, and basically I would have to build an entire case against one of you, and hope that the remaining Town will somehow magically listen to me, and swap votes within 30 minutes. I already frowned upon the "last minute train" when aidnai pulled this. Basically you're telling me to eat my own words. More importantly, I don't know who is the Traitor, and I've said many times, I'm not focused on the Traitor. If I were forced to choose and go for a Traitor lynch, I would have picked CubEdIn due to all that incoherent fuss earlier, but like I said, none of you are viable candidates anymore given the time frame. So what's wrong with abstaining? The only reason why Ace missed my vote, was because he searched for ##, instead of #, a wrong format I used. Obviously. No, I was here last night at the last minute, hilariously scrambling around trying to get SOMEONE lynched so we didn't just waste a day. I didn't remember you voting and took ace's post to be accurate, yeah, and you certainly explained away your non-vote in another post when someone pointed it out, but it doesn't change the fact that missing a lynch is seriously bad for town, and you didn't even try to keep it from happening. On January 15 2011 19:55 Fishball wrote: I've been refraining from using any swear words, even calling people stupid in this game, but it's late at night and you're pushing it. Reread my post. I never argued about or denied how suspicious Beneather and zeks looked. I even said most of us knows, so what you're saying is just pointing out the obvious. My main point, was to question JimboSilvers's motives in general, the big picture itself. You "agreeing" with him, is a pointless reply to my message. I'm talking about apples, you're talking about oranges. ...this part of the post doesn't even have anything to do with you. Yeah, apparently we agree on this point. Why are you yelling at me again? On January 15 2011 19:55 Fishball wrote: So you just repeated what JimboSilvers said, just with different wording. No personal opinions, nothing. I don't feel like talking about this for the Nth time, especially when I'm clearly just wasting my own energy. [/quote] Let's look allll the way back to the beginning of the thread... On January 11 2011 09:43 Eiii wrote: Fish if you're a master of switching personalities or whatever, could you try and make this one a bit more useful as the game goes on? No offense, but town has lost the last two games I've played because of inciteful, spammy posters that basically just distracted them and gave a bunch of false leads. ... Hey look! It's exactly the same opinion I'm expressing now, but a couple days from the past! Man that's crazy. And you haven't changed. I call you out on something anti-town you've done, so you yell at me. I throw my hat in with jimbo and agree with you on a few points, so you insult me and yell at me. I reiterate an opinion on you that I've held for the entire game, and that others are picking up on, so you yell at me again. Along with most of the rest of your posts this game, I just don't see what this accomplishes. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
If mafia wants to convert Fishball he must be targeted by mafia (peace out mafia night KP). If SK wants to shoot Fishball, then that's fine. We can use this to once again confirm Deconduo is a serial killer, and not mafia. Or I could roleblock Fishball so if mafia was intending on converting he would just die instead (wasteful). We need to keep the players we have alive around until we obtain additional information. Also to the doctors, please be smart about protection. There are certain roles we need to keep around, but roles don't equate alignment. Think about who you want to see around for future days, not who's role is most important. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On January 16 2011 03:11 JimboSilvers wrote: This is exactly what I mean. SK's are not mafia. So you really don't get any brownie points for finding them. You just pop out and accuse me, maybe for accusing you. But since I've now switched to Haplo, you should be all cool with that, right? Unless you're trying to defend some mafia buddies. But we can wait on that judgment. There's a difference between being not being omnipresent in the thread and being useless. I may not respond to every post or give my thoughts on all the nonsense you people create, but I don't need to, and I don't have the time to. Notice how every time I do post, I post content. Notice how everytime I post something there's strong resistance to everything I say. I'd say its just the mafia afraid of me. Ever notice how we aren't really getting anywhere? Especially you. Popping out and accusing me without really accusing me, and selectively reading my posts. Coolio. KP roles please read my above posts and think about it hard. I don't have to get into a shit flinging fest in order to get my point across. In all the games I play, I will almost never make an extended case against anyone and relentlessly attack unless it is extremely obvious. All that I usually do is to point things out and mainly let Town decide. Check "Insane Mafia" being one of the latest games I've played. This game, there is no difference, but I had used a different attitude approach; Huge reception difference from your average player. Adding the SK scenario and players who like to comment after skimming through posts, bam, you have a targeted Fishball all game. On January 16 2011 03:11 JimboSilvers wrote: Notice how every time I do post, I post content. Like me, you can have your very own concept of "contributing". I've already commented on your "content" so I'm not going to repeat myself here. On January 16 2011 03:11 JimboSilvers wrote: Popping out and accusing me without really accusing me, and selectively reading my posts. One thing you got wrong here for sure. You're the one "popping out" from inactivity, not me. As for me accusing you without really accusing you, that's subjective and is really up to Town. All that I'm doing is questioning your agenda and bringing it up to light. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On January 16 2011 06:13 Eiii wrote: I hate to post this so long after the fact, but... Obviously. No, I was here last night at the last minute, hilariously scrambling around trying to get SOMEONE lynched so we didn't just waste a day. I didn't remember you voting and took ace's post to be accurate, yeah, and you certainly explained away your non-vote in another post when someone pointed it out, but it doesn't change the fact that missing a lynch is seriously bad for town, and you didn't even try to keep it from happening. ...this part of the post doesn't even have anything to do with you. Yeah, apparently we agree on this point. Why are you yelling at me again? Let's look allll the way back to the beginning of the thread... Hey look! It's exactly the same opinion I'm expressing now, but a couple days from the past! Man that's crazy. And you haven't changed. I call you out on something anti-town you've done, so you yell at me. I throw my hat in with jimbo and agree with you on a few points, so you insult me and yell at me. I reiterate an opinion on you that I've held for the entire game, and that others are picking up on, so you yell at me again. Along with most of the rest of your posts this game, I just don't see what this accomplishes. Your fault for not reading. You jumped the gun, so who is it to blame? You even said I had explained why I choose to abstain. Yet you still try to argue why "it is bad for Town for not lynching". What? Even if you ignore my post, this has already been explained by other players as well. Just so you think "a lynch is always good for town, regardless of outcome", doesn't mean it is right, and that everyone will agree with you. On January 16 2011 06:13 Eiii wrote: I call you out on something anti-town you've done Really? You called me out on something I've done? This is the only thing you said about me. + Show Spoiler + On January 15 2011 19:29 Eiii wrote: fishball has been obnoxious and unhelpful. Hey, you can regard everything I've said thus far falls into that category all you want, but it only proves that we're not even talking on the same level of logic if that is what you truly think. On January 16 2011 06:13 Eiii wrote: I throw my hat in with jimbo and agree with you on a few points, so you insult me and yell at me. You agreed with me? Which part? I insulted and yelled at you? Quote me. On January 16 2011 06:13 Eiii wrote: I reiterate an opinion on you that I've held for the entire game, and that others are picking up on, so you yell at me again. Along with most of the rest of your posts this game, I just don't see what this accomplishes. So you reiterate "your opinion", something that Jimbo just talked about, and I've replied, something that I in fact replied to multiple times. Yet you just have the urge of saying that I'm "obnoxious and unhelpful" a couple post later. I should be the one saying: + Show Spoiler + On January 16 2011 06:13 Eiii wrote: I just don't see what this accomplishes. Maybe you should post once in every page and say that I suck. I'm pretty sure that accomplishes something. Oh, and again, where is the yelling? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 16 2011 06:18 Amber[LighT] wrote: Keeping Fishball alive even if he's the traitor does not give mafia anything beneficial. If mafia wants to convert Fishball he must be targeted by mafia (peace out mafia night KP). If SK wants to shoot Fishball, then that's fine. We can use this to once again confirm Deconduo is a serial killer, and not mafia. Or I could roleblock Fishball so if mafia was intending on converting he would just die instead (wasteful). Traitor - You hold no allegiance to the town. If you are targeted by Scum at night with any action, instead of that action happening you'll be recruited by them instead. You lose if the Mafia lose. However you are part of the town count before recruitment. I strongly disagree that keeping the traitor alive doesn't benefit mafia. He still wants mafia to win and counts as an extra vote on their side. In addition, he may distract the town from scum hunting and even take a lynch in place of a real scum. Also, to convert the traitor, a night kp does not need to be used. Any night action will convert him. For example, if the scum happens to select role cop, doctor, mason, joat, cpr, role blocker, tracker, or parity cop they can use their role on the obvious traitor candidates. Odds are pretty high that the traitor is already recruited. On January 16 2011 06:18 Amber[LighT] wrote: We need to keep the players we have alive around until we obtain additional information. Also to the doctors, please be smart about protection. There are certain roles we need to keep around, but roles don't equate alignment. Think about who you want to see around for future days, not who's role is most important. Hmm? Does this mean you advocate not using my night kp? | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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