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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 15 2011 03:49 GMT
#1121
On January 15 2011 11:36 CubEdIn wrote:
Why not consider Amber too? He publicly threw away the vote and was fine with it.
Why is he always slipping under the radar?


I would like to hear an explanation from him.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 15 2011 04:44 GMT
#1122
On January 15 2011 11:33 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 11:27 CubEdIn wrote:
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
So unless mafia had both CPR to account for KP3 and JOAT to account for 1, then they couldn't have recruited traitor, right?

I am dismissing possibility of 3 x SK as that would be highly imbalanced for town


Then there is not much point going after traitor yet, so I am going to ignore the fishball/cubed thing and stick with bum.

Other candidates I think could be mafia are misder and beneather. Might be people to think about kita.


Whether or not the traitor is recruited, he still has a mafia win condition and will contribute to their lynch target (probably you). Would you consider hitting fishball? I would make the hit myself, except there is a chance I could be role blocked so you should be the one hitting the most concrete target.

Amber who do you plan to role block tonight?

BC do you still plan to make your analysis of bum before night actions are due?

Bum did you fall down the rabbits hole again? Do you have any night hit suggestions?
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 15 2011 05:28 GMT
#1123
On January 15 2011 13:44 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 11:33 deconduo wrote:
On January 15 2011 11:27 CubEdIn wrote:
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
So unless mafia had both CPR to account for KP3 and JOAT to account for 1, then they couldn't have recruited traitor, right?

I am dismissing possibility of 3 x SK as that would be highly imbalanced for town


Then there is not much point going after traitor yet, so I am going to ignore the fishball/cubed thing and stick with bum.

Other candidates I think could be mafia are misder and beneather. Might be people to think about kita.


Whether or not the traitor is recruited, he still has a mafia win condition and will contribute to their lynch target (probably you). Would you consider hitting fishball? I would make the hit myself, except there is a chance I could be role blocked so you should be the one hitting the most concrete target.

Amber who do you plan to role block tonight?

BC do you still plan to make your analysis of bum before night actions are due?

Bum did you fall down the rabbits hole again? Do you have any night hit suggestions?



Plan to yes, but only because I don't actually think I will live throughout the night. I have a gap between my staff meeting and when i have to be at work tommorrow in which I plan on doing it.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 15 2011 05:29 GMT
#1124
Kita, the only way you could be role blocked is by a med/amber as he claimed roleblocker.

As such if you publically claim who you are going to hit, and you get roleblocked, chances are pretty high amber is red.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
January 15 2011 05:38 GMT
#1125
Ok, so I missed out on a lot since I last posted (like a completely vanished from the face of the earth -.-), and I’ll put what I think about the situation. Oh, also, prob won’t post until Sunday 

@Cube
I think that Cube is most likely SK.

Cube is stupid. Really stupid. And I get a really bad vibe from him. He contradicts himself many times. He continues to say that we need to prove deconduo100%. There’s no way that we could do that without killing him.

1st Post (Cube’s fake claim)
He thinks that he’s the most important person in the game. He doesn’t want to risk dying in order to save someone. Now, the wording on this post is interesting. 1) “I have weird head issues”- I have no idea why he would want to post this at all. 2) “I may do either of the following” his wording is really weird- it seems like he claims that it will randomly choose every day. 3) “Not the most helpful in the game”- once we figure out what kind of doctor, it definitely could be helpful. Paranoid acts like a roleblocker, weak can guarantee a mafia kill.

2nd Post
Another scummy post. 1) “I was hoping to give the Mafia a reason not to hit me”- continues to think that he’s the most important person in the game. 2) “risk of killing someone -> good for mafia”- bad logic? Mafia always has a risk of killing someone? 3) “They basically have no reason not to hit me”- Uh, yeah they do now. You just said you’re too afraid to use your power. Contradiction. 4) “I’ll help you”- contradiction again. His entire reasoning day 1 he claims is that he doesn’t want to die; now he wants to die?

3rd Post
Seems like hes not paying attention to what is happening, like a townie would do :/

4th Post
1) Picks out grammar- like its important when it really isn’t. 2) “they just don’t work as they should”- its not like we didn’t know that- we knew that they wouldn’t be normal as it was in the OP

5th Post
I think I’m just confused…

6th Post
1) “fake claiming would be… leading the town to believe that my role is something different than it is”- you did- you claimed that role did something extra; that’s different that what it is 2) “Explain how this would make me a more efficient Mafia”- it would lead to another excuse not to use your power… 3) “I hoped that Mafia wouldn’t reread the rules”- uhh, why not? Your logic on this is that they wouldn’t because they didn’t pick doctor. I reread the rules all the time just to make sure of things- that doesn’t make me not mafia. Actually, I knew you were lying about the bad doctor part right away before I read BC’s post without even looking at the OP again. That’s just bad logic

7th Post
1) our entire discussion before from LSB was that we probably don’t have the JOAT role.

And it goes on and on and on

I still think we can use him as a medic- if we can figure out what kind he is. I suggest he protects deconduo- mafia has a reason to kill deconduo tonight, as he is siding with the town as of now- if hes paranoid, he would roleblock deconduo’s shot that he said he would fire- if naive weak, then deconduo will probably die (theres no way to guarantee this)- if hes weak- then Cube will die.

@deconduo situation
He agreed that he would use his day vig to survive today’s lynch. We can use that as many pointed out. Deconduo would need to help the town since if mafia makes it lylo, and town loses, deconduo loses too. So the best course of action for deconduo is to help the town until we get a few of the mafia lynched. That means we can use/trust him for a while.

@BC
BC being active day 2 is unusual. He did that in my other mafia game with him where he was mafia, where he didn’t post at all basically day 1, and then day 2, he emerged and completely piled on someone who was being scummy but not mafia, as seen with Cube. Just an FoS on BC. Don’t really want to go into analysis.

@LSB
I’m still following the analysis on this guy. Not positive on any of this on him, since at first I believed him to be mafia, but now, I’m questioning.


@Fishball
He’s posted less than from day 1- I can’t say much since I’m doing the same thing- but it is another reason why he might be mafia. Meh, I’m not pushing so hard on his lynch anymore- but I still think hes pretty mafiaish.
Whaaaa?
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 15 2011 05:40 GMT
#1126
On January 15 2011 14:38 Misder wrote:
Ok, so I missed out on a lot since I last posted (like a completely vanished from the face of the earth -.-), and I’ll put what I think about the situation. Oh, also, prob won’t post until Sunday 

@Cube
I think that Cube is most likely SK.

Cube is stupid. Really stupid. And I get a really bad vibe from him. He contradicts himself many times. He continues to say that we need to prove deconduo100%. There’s no way that we could do that without killing him.

1st Post (Cube’s fake claim)
He thinks that he’s the most important person in the game. He doesn’t want to risk dying in order to save someone. Now, the wording on this post is interesting. 1) “I have weird head issues”- I have no idea why he would want to post this at all. 2) “I may do either of the following” his wording is really weird- it seems like he claims that it will randomly choose every day. 3) “Not the most helpful in the game”- once we figure out what kind of doctor, it definitely could be helpful. Paranoid acts like a roleblocker, weak can guarantee a mafia kill.

2nd Post
Another scummy post. 1) “I was hoping to give the Mafia a reason not to hit me”- continues to think that he’s the most important person in the game. 2) “risk of killing someone -> good for mafia”- bad logic? Mafia always has a risk of killing someone? 3) “They basically have no reason not to hit me”- Uh, yeah they do now. You just said you’re too afraid to use your power. Contradiction. 4) “I’ll help you”- contradiction again. His entire reasoning day 1 he claims is that he doesn’t want to die; now he wants to die?

3rd Post
Seems like hes not paying attention to what is happening, like a townie would do :/

4th Post
1) Picks out grammar- like its important when it really isn’t. 2) “they just don’t work as they should”- its not like we didn’t know that- we knew that they wouldn’t be normal as it was in the OP

5th Post
I think I’m just confused…

6th Post
1) “fake claiming would be… leading the town to believe that my role is something different than it is”- you did- you claimed that role did something extra; that’s different that what it is 2) “Explain how this would make me a more efficient Mafia”- it would lead to another excuse not to use your power… 3) “I hoped that Mafia wouldn’t reread the rules”- uhh, why not? Your logic on this is that they wouldn’t because they didn’t pick doctor. I reread the rules all the time just to make sure of things- that doesn’t make me not mafia. Actually, I knew you were lying about the bad doctor part right away before I read BC’s post without even looking at the OP again. That’s just bad logic

7th Post
1) our entire discussion before from LSB was that we probably don’t have the JOAT role.

And it goes on and on and on

I still think we can use him as a medic- if we can figure out what kind he is. I suggest he protects deconduo- mafia has a reason to kill deconduo tonight, as he is siding with the town as of now- if hes paranoid, he would roleblock deconduo’s shot that he said he would fire- if naive weak, then deconduo will probably die (theres no way to guarantee this)- if hes weak- then Cube will die.

@deconduo situation
He agreed that he would use his day vig to survive today’s lynch. We can use that as many pointed out. Deconduo would need to help the town since if mafia makes it lylo, and town loses, deconduo loses too. So the best course of action for deconduo is to help the town until we get a few of the mafia lynched. That means we can use/trust him for a while.

@BC
BC being active day 2 is unusual. He did that in my other mafia game with him where he was mafia, where he didn’t post at all basically day 1, and then day 2, he emerged and completely piled on someone who was being scummy but not mafia, as seen with Cube. Just an FoS on BC. Don’t really want to go into analysis.

@LSB
I’m still following the analysis on this guy. Not positive on any of this on him, since at first I believed him to be mafia, but now, I’m questioning.


@Fishball
He’s posted less than from day 1- I can’t say much since I’m doing the same thing- but it is another reason why he might be mafia. Meh, I’m not pushing so hard on his lynch anymore- but I still think hes pretty mafiaish.


Its posts like this that make happy.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 15 2011 05:43 GMT
#1127
and before anyone asks what I mean. This is the best sort of information you can get on someone. A player posting "analysis" to try and blend into a crowd while not contributing well, anything new and insightful. It works much better however when the player reads the thread and stays caught up and realizes said player "hes not sure about" flipped anti town. Considering the arguments against LSB were pretty damning, I would ask you this misder.

Why did you find him less scummy? Is this because you knew he wasn't mafia?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 15 2011 05:45 GMT
#1128
On January 15 2011 14:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 14:38 Misder wrote:
Ok, so I missed out on a lot since I last posted (like a completely vanished from the face of the earth -.-), and I’ll put what I think about the situation. Oh, also, prob won’t post until Sunday 

@Cube
I think that Cube is most likely SK.

Cube is stupid. Really stupid. And I get a really bad vibe from him. He contradicts himself many times. He continues to say that we need to prove deconduo100%. There’s no way that we could do that without killing him.

1st Post (Cube’s fake claim)
He thinks that he’s the most important person in the game. He doesn’t want to risk dying in order to save someone. Now, the wording on this post is interesting. 1) “I have weird head issues”- I have no idea why he would want to post this at all. 2) “I may do either of the following” his wording is really weird- it seems like he claims that it will randomly choose every day. 3) “Not the most helpful in the game”- once we figure out what kind of doctor, it definitely could be helpful. Paranoid acts like a roleblocker, weak can guarantee a mafia kill.

2nd Post
Another scummy post. 1) “I was hoping to give the Mafia a reason not to hit me”- continues to think that he’s the most important person in the game. 2) “risk of killing someone -> good for mafia”- bad logic? Mafia always has a risk of killing someone? 3) “They basically have no reason not to hit me”- Uh, yeah they do now. You just said you’re too afraid to use your power. Contradiction. 4) “I’ll help you”- contradiction again. His entire reasoning day 1 he claims is that he doesn’t want to die; now he wants to die?

3rd Post
Seems like hes not paying attention to what is happening, like a townie would do :/

4th Post
1) Picks out grammar- like its important when it really isn’t. 2) “they just don’t work as they should”- its not like we didn’t know that- we knew that they wouldn’t be normal as it was in the OP

5th Post
I think I’m just confused…

6th Post
1) “fake claiming would be… leading the town to believe that my role is something different than it is”- you did- you claimed that role did something extra; that’s different that what it is 2) “Explain how this would make me a more efficient Mafia”- it would lead to another excuse not to use your power… 3) “I hoped that Mafia wouldn’t reread the rules”- uhh, why not? Your logic on this is that they wouldn’t because they didn’t pick doctor. I reread the rules all the time just to make sure of things- that doesn’t make me not mafia. Actually, I knew you were lying about the bad doctor part right away before I read BC’s post without even looking at the OP again. That’s just bad logic

7th Post
1) our entire discussion before from LSB was that we probably don’t have the JOAT role.

And it goes on and on and on

I still think we can use him as a medic- if we can figure out what kind he is. I suggest he protects deconduo- mafia has a reason to kill deconduo tonight, as he is siding with the town as of now- if hes paranoid, he would roleblock deconduo’s shot that he said he would fire- if naive weak, then deconduo will probably die (theres no way to guarantee this)- if hes weak- then Cube will die.

@deconduo situation
He agreed that he would use his day vig to survive today’s lynch. We can use that as many pointed out. Deconduo would need to help the town since if mafia makes it lylo, and town loses, deconduo loses too. So the best course of action for deconduo is to help the town until we get a few of the mafia lynched. That means we can use/trust him for a while.

@BC
BC being active day 2 is unusual. He did that in my other mafia game with him where he was mafia, where he didn’t post at all basically day 1, and then day 2, he emerged and completely piled on someone who was being scummy but not mafia, as seen with Cube. Just an FoS on BC. Don’t really want to go into analysis.

@LSB
I’m still following the analysis on this guy. Not positive on any of this on him, since at first I believed him to be mafia, but now, I’m questioning.


@Fishball
He’s posted less than from day 1- I can’t say much since I’m doing the same thing- but it is another reason why he might be mafia. Meh, I’m not pushing so hard on his lynch anymore- but I still think hes pretty mafiaish.


Its posts like this that make happy.


That LSB guy seems pretty suspicious to me too. I officially appoint you as our LSB watchman. If he says anything that doesn't seem right, please let us know.
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HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 15 2011 07:27 GMT
#1129
Sorry I missed the crucial voting time guys. I had some shit I had to do at that time.

We need to decide on a person for Kita to kill tonight.

List of likely targets.

Cube - Lied to town in a effort to scare the mafia. Pretty weak claim with contradictory arguments about his reasoning.

Deconduo - Claimed SK.

Fishball - Likely Traitor.

BC - Was a potential lynch target. He should still be looked into as a viable target.

Misder - Hasn't been posting much. I almost completely forgot he was in the game. He seems to be trying to sit back and stay out of sight. I think he is a likely candidate for a scum.

Bumatlarge - Some people seem to be suspicious of him. However Deconduo has already stated that he will be using is SK kill on him tonight.

Other? - Tell me who you think should be on this list. We need to try and keep the list short so we can actually get a clear decision. We don't want to leave it ambiguous. There is still a potential that Kita is a scum. We need to make sure he is killing who we want him to and not leaving up to his choice.

I will go ahead and choose Misder for my pick.

All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch.



Now then. Cube. You claim to be a doctor, but you won't use your ability. Stop being a pussy. Don't waste your ability because you're afraid. This is probably the reason I'm the most suspicious of you. A doctor who isn't protecting someone doesn't look good. You need to protect someone tonight. Who knows, it could be what prevents us from losing tonight or tomorrow.

I propose that you protect either
Kita - While he has the potential to be harmful to us, its probably best to keep him alive. If he turns out to be a scum, we probably can't win as it is.
HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here.
Eiii - Is hopefully our Parity Cop. A pretty good reason to be protected. He hasn't confirmed this, but he probably shouldn't until he can at least tell us something.

You should tell us who you will be protecting us tonight. This should pretty much guarantee that that player will not be killed. Scum will be reluctant to hit him, plus your protection should save him if they do decide to go after him. Then in the case that you are a weak cop and you die from it, we will know who you protected and that that person is scum. I think we should be able to tell if your death was from weak cop or someone's KP by the amount of deaths that will occur tonight.

So yeah everyone please let us know who you want Kita's KP to be use on. Also please mention anything that I might have overlooked.
JimboSilvers
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom167 Posts
January 15 2011 08:19 GMT
#1130
Damn this is getting interesting. So I guess since deconduo is confirmed CC now, its unlikely we have a CPR doc unless someone was ballsy enough to pick it when it was pretty clear deconduo was going to pick it. So we might have 3 SKs unless the 4th hit last night was from a JOAT.

Deconduo should hit beneather. I'm pretty sure he's scum. Why? He's damn useless and posts only questions, one liners, doubt posts, and posts that just seems like he's trying to act. He doesn't offer any strong opinions, and offers questions on pointless information. And after he poses the questions, he never follows up and offers insight. His voting record is also laughable, he votes for LayOffRage day 1, and abstains day 2. He also has no acceptable reasoning for either of his votes.

kitaman should hit Fishball. Why? First off, this confirms kitas role and targets a troublemaker. If fishball flips traitor, then kita is confirmed innocent otherwise the hit wouldn't go through and fishball would be recruited instead. This is unlikely though, as I think Fishball is just plain scum. Hes been useless, calls out a bunch of people calling them scum with little reason. Although his play can be interpreted as "he's just having fun", he is active yet doesn't contribute. He stirs the pot when there is already chaos in the air, and doesn't do anything to actually help the town. Burn his ass.

For the third hit (CPR Doc/3rd SK), I propose zeks. This just reminds me of someone who is hiding. Said some stuff earlier about LSB's plan, announced his number, and announced that "I'll say that I'll be taking one of Alignment Cop, Tracker, Mason or Witch." Well its time for him to crawl out of your cave there, because for being an investigative role hes pretty clueless. Hes obviously not the witch. Either way, if hes any of the other roles he should state which one he is right now. Otherwise we should just shoot him. The rest of his posts have a common theme with the other above targets. Useless and insightless. He votes with flimsy reasoning on day 1, and didn't vote day 2.
JimboSilvers
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom167 Posts
January 15 2011 08:28 GMT
#1131
On January 15 2011 16:27 HaploPaithan wrote:
Sorry I missed the crucial voting time guys. I had some shit I had to do at that time.

We need to decide on a person for Kita to kill tonight.

List of likely targets.

Cube - Lied to town in a effort to scare the mafia. Pretty weak claim with contradictory arguments about his reasoning.

Deconduo - Claimed SK.

Fishball - Likely Traitor.

BC - Was a potential lynch target. He should still be looked into as a viable target.

Misder - Hasn't been posting much. I almost completely forgot he was in the game. He seems to be trying to sit back and stay out of sight. I think he is a likely candidate for a scum.

Bumatlarge - Some people seem to be suspicious of him. However Deconduo has already stated that he will be using is SK kill on him tonight.

Other? - Tell me who you think should be on this list. We need to try and keep the list short so we can actually get a clear decision. We don't want to leave it ambiguous. There is still a potential that Kita is a scum. We need to make sure he is killing who we want him to and not leaving up to his choice.

I will go ahead and choose Misder for my pick.

All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch.



Now then. Cube. You claim to be a doctor, but you won't use your ability. Stop being a pussy. Don't waste your ability because you're afraid. This is probably the reason I'm the most suspicious of you. A doctor who isn't protecting someone doesn't look good. You need to protect someone tonight. Who knows, it could be what prevents us from losing tonight or tomorrow.

I propose that you protect either
Kita - While he has the potential to be harmful to us, its probably best to keep him alive. If he turns out to be a scum, we probably can't win as it is.
HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here.
Eiii - Is hopefully our Parity Cop. A pretty good reason to be protected. He hasn't confirmed this, but he probably shouldn't until he can at least tell us something.

You should tell us who you will be protecting us tonight. This should pretty much guarantee that that player will not be killed. Scum will be reluctant to hit him, plus your protection should save him if they do decide to go after him. Then in the case that you are a weak cop and you die from it, we will know who you protected and that that person is scum. I think we should be able to tell if your death was from weak cop or someone's KP by the amount of deaths that will occur tonight.

So yeah everyone please let us know who you want Kita's KP to be use on. Also please mention anything that I might have overlooked.


Oh hey nice of you to come in and post!

On your list : why would we kill the SK? First off we can't kill him at night since he's bulletproof, and second we need to kill mafia, not SK. We're in a terrible position given its 16 players and 5, potentially 6 mafia, and a bunch of KP.

Anything else to say about Fishball other than "likely traitor"?

Why Misder over other lurkers like zeks?

You mention bumatlarge and say other people seem to want to lynch him. What do YOU think? I'm not feeling conviction here. Along with the other questionable picks on your list, I'm just feeling like you're trying to pick easy candidates here.

Also:
HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here.


Why do you think you'll be targetted again? And why do you think you're so important that we need to save your life? Your most recent post is just atrocious. kitaman, please ignore my last request and shoot this loser instead.
JimboSilvers
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom167 Posts
January 15 2011 08:31 GMT
#1132
EBWOP: Medic should NOT announce who they're protecting. That just lets mafia hit whoever they want, which gets us closer to losing.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 08:33:38
January 15 2011 08:32 GMT
#1133
Day 2 Votes
With 16 alive, it is 9 to lynch!

deconduo (5)
HaploPaithan
JimboSilvers
Misder
bumatlarge
deconduo
bumatlarge
aidnai
Eiii
BloodyC0bbler
BloodyC0bbler


Amber[light] (0)
aidnai


CubeDin (0)
BloodyC0bbler
CubeDin


BloodyC0bbler (3)
HaploPaithan
Pigsquirrel
Amber[LighT]



Fishball (5)
kitaman27
Amber[LighT]
deconduo
Kenpachi
Cubedin
Eiii

LSB (0)
BloodyC0bbler


aidnai (0)
BloodyC0bbler


bumatlarge (0)
BloodyC0bbler


No Lynch/Abstain (1)
Kenpachi
aidnai
Beneather
Cubedin


Not Voting (2) - zeks, Fishball,

Day 2 results in a No Lynch since majority wasn't reached.


It is now Night 2. All Night Actions are due at 9PM ET/ 11KST Saturday January 15th in 18.5 hours

Jimbosilvers is in danger of being modkilled
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 15 2011 09:49 GMT
#1134
On January 15 2011 17:19 JimboSilvers wrote:
Damn this is getting interesting. So I guess since deconduo is confirmed CC now, its unlikely we have a CPR doc unless someone was ballsy enough to pick it when it was pretty clear deconduo was going to pick it. So we might have 3 SKs unless the 4th hit last night was from a JOAT.

Deconduo should hit beneather. I'm pretty sure he's scum. Why? He's damn useless and posts only questions, one liners, doubt posts, and posts that just seems like he's trying to act. He doesn't offer any strong opinions, and offers questions on pointless information. And after he poses the questions, he never follows up and offers insight. His voting record is also laughable, he votes for LayOffRage day 1, and abstains day 2. He also has no acceptable reasoning for either of his votes.

kitaman should hit Fishball. Why? First off, this confirms kitas role and targets a troublemaker. If fishball flips traitor, then kita is confirmed innocent otherwise the hit wouldn't go through and fishball would be recruited instead. This is unlikely though, as I think Fishball is just plain scum. Hes been useless, calls out a bunch of people calling them scum with little reason. Although his play can be interpreted as "he's just having fun", he is active yet doesn't contribute. He stirs the pot when there is already chaos in the air, and doesn't do anything to actually help the town. Burn his ass.

For the third hit (CPR Doc/3rd SK), I propose zeks. This just reminds me of someone who is hiding. Said some stuff earlier about LSB's plan, announced his number, and announced that "I'll say that I'll be taking one of Alignment Cop, Tracker, Mason or Witch." Well its time for him to crawl out of your cave there, because for being an investigative role hes pretty clueless. Hes obviously not the witch. Either way, if hes any of the other roles he should state which one he is right now. Otherwise we should just shoot him. The rest of his posts have a common theme with the other above targets. Useless and insightless. He votes with flimsy reasoning on day 1, and didn't vote day 2.


So you think that if kitaman hits me, and I flip traitor, that mean's he is confirmed innocent? You just said there is a possibility of 3 SK's. If kitaman is a SK, then nothing is confirmed. Being/claiming vigilante is like one of the best covers a SK can get. A SK doesn't align with Town or Mafia, and is only there for himself. He can easily stick around and "follow" Town's instruction to the end. A SK won't die to Night hits, and since the Day Vig already used his hit, a SK's only threat is the Day lynch. As long as the SK is under cover as a vigilante, and utilizes his ability "in favor" of Town, he won't have to worry about getting lynched, and can wait till the time is right to make a move.

Also, I don't know exactly what you mean by "doesn't contribute". If pointing out sense (like what I did just now), and being involved with catching a SK isn't contributing, then we obviously have different understands of this term. Also keep in mind, I have been in the middle of the picture for quite a few times. It's not exactly easy that I can somehow make everyone worship me and we can happily go scum hunting. If you think that yourself, popping out once or twice a day, generalizing your "facts" and accusing people is contributing, then I rest my case.

Oh, and me being a "troublemaker"? Hahaha.
靈魂交響曲
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 15 2011 10:21 GMT
#1135
Funny how Ace just warned Jimbosilvers is in danger of being modkilled.

So this inactive guy pops out and calls 3 people useless. Huge irony there.
On January 15 2011 17:19 JimboSilvers wrote:
beneather. He's damn useless

Fishball. Hes been useless

zeks - Useless and insightless.


Most of us are well aware of those that are inactive, and what they have done. I've even brought up Beneather based on his other mistakes before.

It's quite obvious I could be used as the perfect scapegoat, but choosing a couple more inactives for his analysis and accuse them, hardly makes him any more useful, especially when he is inactive himself. It would not surprise me if JimboSilvers had a different agenda behind his back.
靈魂交響曲
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 10:29 GMT
#1136
I'd be willing to bet this game on the fact that there would only be two SK, personally.

Jimbo's plan seems just fine to me, as well-- zeks and beneather have been flying under the radar, and fishball has been obnoxious and unhelpful, not to mention not voting yesterday when he was clearly active.
:3
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 15 2011 10:34 GMT
#1137
I lol'd.

This page is full of win.

Misder, I may be stupid, because I didn't read the OP as well as I should have, but at least I'm not a fking retard.

Jimbo, I like you, really. You posted some nice stuff earlier, but now you go afk and come back like 1 minute before the night post, prolly because Ace PMed you. Please be more active in the game.

I don't think we should argue much though, just wait and see if we live through the night.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 15 2011 10:55 GMT
#1138
On January 15 2011 19:29 Eiii wrote:
I'd be willing to bet this game on the fact that there would only be two SK, personally.

Jimbo's plan seems just fine to me, as well-- zeks and beneather have been flying under the radar, and fishball has been obnoxious and unhelpful, not to mention not voting yesterday when he was clearly active.


See, players like you are the ones that make me frown, and shouldn't even be playing. First I had to deal with Kenpachi and now you.
Obviously you weren't here last night, did not follow the thread, skimmed through most of it, saw Ace's post and made your comment. Hey, look what I found regarding my vote?
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 15 2011 09:34 Fishball wrote:
#vote Abstain for now.

I'm willing to let Deconduo live for now, as he did do Town a favor, and he didn't lie about the Day Vig role.


On January 15 2011 11:04 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 10:49 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm a vig. I'm not cleared but look at the situation. I'm pushing for a lynch while fish sits back and abstains. If he knows he isn't the traitor than surely he would be pushing the lynch on someone who does.


I hate to say this, but how hard headed are you?

Look at the list. What other options do I have? I won't vote myself, I decided to not vote for deconduo. So ok, I try to go for the Traitor. What options do I have?

Kenpachi
kitaman27
Amber[Light]
CubEdIn

None of you are exactly voted for, and basically I would have to build an entire case against one of you, and hope that the remaining Town will somehow magically listen to me, and swap votes within 30 minutes. I already frowned upon the "last minute train" when aidnai pulled this. Basically you're telling me to eat my own words. More importantly, I don't know who is the Traitor, and I've said many times, I'm not focused on the Traitor. If I were forced to choose and go for a Traitor lynch, I would have picked CubEdIn due to all that incoherent fuss earlier, but like I said, none of you are viable candidates anymore given the time frame. So what's wrong with abstaining?

The only reason why Ace missed my vote, was because he searched for ##, instead of #, a wrong format I used.

On January 15 2011 19:29 Eiii wrote:
Jimbo's plan seems just fine to me, as well-- zeks and beneather have been flying under the radar


I've been refraining from using any swear words, even calling people stupid in this game, but it's late at night and you're pushing it. Reread my post. I never argued about or denied how suspicious Beneather and zeks looked. I even said most of us knows, so what you're saying is just pointing out the obvious. My main point, was to question JimboSilvers's motives in general, the big picture itself. You "agreeing" with him, is a pointless reply to my message. I'm talking about apples, you're talking about oranges.

On January 15 2011 19:29 Eiii wrote:
fishball has been obnoxious and unhelpful.


So you just repeated what JimboSilvers said, just with different wording. No personal opinions, nothing. I don't feel like talking about this for the Nth time, especially when I'm clearly just wasting my own energy.
靈魂交響曲
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 15 2011 11:41 GMT
#1139
On January 15 2011 19:34 CubEdIn wrote:


Misder, I may be stupid, because I didn't read the OP as well as I should have, but at least I'm not a fking retard.



This is even funnier because you're from Romania
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 15 2011 13:31 GMT
#1140
On January 15 2011 17:28 JimboSilvers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 16:27 HaploPaithan wrote:
Sorry I missed the crucial voting time guys. I had some shit I had to do at that time.

We need to decide on a person for Kita to kill tonight.

List of likely targets.

Cube - Lied to town in a effort to scare the mafia. Pretty weak claim with contradictory arguments about his reasoning.

Deconduo - Claimed SK.

Fishball - Likely Traitor.

BC - Was a potential lynch target. He should still be looked into as a viable target.

Misder - Hasn't been posting much. I almost completely forgot he was in the game. He seems to be trying to sit back and stay out of sight. I think he is a likely candidate for a scum.

Bumatlarge - Some people seem to be suspicious of him. However Deconduo has already stated that he will be using is SK kill on him tonight.

Other? - Tell me who you think should be on this list. We need to try and keep the list short so we can actually get a clear decision. We don't want to leave it ambiguous. There is still a potential that Kita is a scum. We need to make sure he is killing who we want him to and not leaving up to his choice.

I will go ahead and choose Misder for my pick.

All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch.



Now then. Cube. You claim to be a doctor, but you won't use your ability. Stop being a pussy. Don't waste your ability because you're afraid. This is probably the reason I'm the most suspicious of you. A doctor who isn't protecting someone doesn't look good. You need to protect someone tonight. Who knows, it could be what prevents us from losing tonight or tomorrow.

I propose that you protect either
Kita - While he has the potential to be harmful to us, its probably best to keep him alive. If he turns out to be a scum, we probably can't win as it is.
HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here.
Eiii - Is hopefully our Parity Cop. A pretty good reason to be protected. He hasn't confirmed this, but he probably shouldn't until he can at least tell us something.

You should tell us who you will be protecting us tonight. This should pretty much guarantee that that player will not be killed. Scum will be reluctant to hit him, plus your protection should save him if they do decide to go after him. Then in the case that you are a weak cop and you die from it, we will know who you protected and that that person is scum. I think we should be able to tell if your death was from weak cop or someone's KP by the amount of deaths that will occur tonight.

So yeah everyone please let us know who you want Kita's KP to be use on. Also please mention anything that I might have overlooked.


Oh hey nice of you to come in and post!

On your list : why would we kill the SK? First off we can't kill him at night since he's bulletproof, and second we need to kill mafia, not SK. We're in a terrible position given its 16 players and 5, potentially 6 mafia, and a bunch of KP.

Anything else to say about Fishball other than "likely traitor"?

Why Misder over other lurkers like zeks?

You mention bumatlarge and say other people seem to want to lynch him. What do YOU think? I'm not feeling conviction here. Along with the other questionable picks on your list, I'm just feeling like you're trying to pick easy candidates here.

Also:
Show nested quote +
HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here.


Why do you think you'll be targetted again? And why do you think you're so important that we need to save your life? Your most recent post is just atrocious. kitaman, please ignore my last request and shoot this loser instead.



Keep in mind if he shoots halpo and he flips red the chances are that aidnai is red as well!

seriously though, I am about to jet to a staff meeting and be back in an hour or two, but I think anyone with half a brain can see some of the either worst town/mafia play ever. People who are completely inactive come in and post the most half assed "recap" of a days events? I am amused I am on every one of those lists pretty well.

But I have to ask. Why am I still a core lynch target? I wasn't on anyone's list for a target until after my analysis on lsb and my FoS on cube and ken. The analysis I made and pushed turned out legit, cube admitted he shouldn't have fake claimed and ken has been tore apart for his role pick by many players. So where is the sketchyness now?

When I come back I shall start digging up posts on bum and possibly amber/misder as I have a high chance of dying tonight.
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