On January 15 2011 11:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
on a random note, did beneather or zeks get a prod earlier about being at risk for a modkill, cause if so, we lost 1-2 townies.

or players i should say.

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

January 15 2011 02:08 GMT

#1103

That looks like a slip lol they dont really work imo though.. I got my eyes on you

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

January 15 2011 02:09 GMT

#1104

On January 15 2011 10:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

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On January 15 2011 10:57 kitaman27 wrote:

On January 15 2011 10:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

On January 15 2011 10:49 kitaman27 wrote:

On January 15 2011 10:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

On January 15 2011 10:41 kitaman27 wrote:

On January 15 2011 10:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

On January 15 2011 10:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Why is everyone so satisfied with no lynch? Scum should be more afraid of dec since their kp can't hurt him.

EVERYONE SHOULD BE VOTING FOR FISHBALL

BC are you seriously going to bring up bum 30 minutes before the lynch? Why isn't your vote on traitor suspect.

Cube, if you want to clear yourself as traitor then I want your vote on fishball.

To those who are abstaining or voting for useless candidates, I will be hitting one of you with my kp if you decide to ignore the lynch. aka (cube, aidnai, Beneather , haplo, pig)

There are 30 minutes remaining.

Simple, Fish is smarter to keep around atm, decon is potentially helping us. As for bum, placing a vote to see if hes alive and around isn't bad, it saves me from being modkilled. I will however change my vote to whoever is most likely to die. IE be the hammer vote.

There are two remaining traitor candidates, fish or cube. The fact that they won't vote against each other may mean they are both scum. I'm not sure how keeping fish around at the moment is the smarter choice. If we eliminate one, there is a 50% chance he is scum (probably more than that). If not then we have a 100% chance to kill cube at night. Seems to me you don't want to commit. Why hammer vote when you can vote now?

Listen to fish, he is calling me a SK. Cmon now.

Fish is an intelligent player, he knows to keep alive he (if red) has to play a very dangerous game which means he has to help the town to stay alive. Decon has KP. However, amber is not off the hook for potential candidate of a traitor, nor are you until you use your KP. People need to keep in mind amber hasn't proved his role, kenpachi hasnt (although his is likely), fish hasn't claimed, and cube hasn't proved his.

Amber role blocked kenpachi, which kenpachi then confirmed via the pm from ace. Kenpachi is the godfather, you said yourself it would be silly for a forth player to select it.

I'm a vig. I'm not cleared but look at the situation. I'm pushing for a lynch while fish sits back and abstains. If he knows he isn't the traitor than surely he would be pushing the lynch on someone who does.

Keep in mind there are more than one situations to amber / kenpachi
both red / lying.
amber traitor / kenpachi red
amber legit / kenpachi legit
amber legit / kenpachi red.

Amber is not 100% confirmed as we don't know his alignment, nor do we know kenpachi's. Didn't cube also say he prot'd kenpachi? It is possible his prot roleblocked kenpachi and that is where the roleblock came from.

They aren't confirmed.

Agreed, but it didn't realize we should pass up a town lynch due to the fact that we can't confirm a player is 100% red.

5 red, 2 sk, 1 traitor, at start of day 2 with 10 townies
we now have 5/1/1/10

That is still 10v7. One dead townie is rough on us.

What is even more rough is taking another 3+ kills until our day cycle comes back around.

Since we can't decide a lynch target in 48 hours, might as well start to discuss dec and my targets for tonight.

On January 15 2011 11:02 deconduo wrote:
That brings me up to 7 which is still not enough, so you guys better suck up to me and give me good reason to play along tonight. The way I see it, you probably don't plan on keeping me alive for the next lynch.

Certainly you agree that it is in your best interest to target a mafia tonight, no? The town doesn't mind keeping you around if you are willing to target scum, however the mafia wants you dead because their kp doesn't hurt you. It would be beneficial if our hits do not overlap as well.

CubEdIn

Romania5359 Posts

January 15 2011 02:09 GMT

#1105

Well most of the time Mafia won't get modkilled, but i guess we'll see.

Also, consider this my post for the night.
I'll let you know who I 'protect' before day post. Hopefully.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

January 15 2011 02:10 GMT

#1106

Its:
9/5/1/1

With traitor not recruited.

9/6/1

With traitor recruited.

We have Vig, as (likely) town KP
Me as 3rd party KP
Mafia KP
JOAT/CPR as unknown/non-existant

That leaves probably 3-4 dead tomorrow.

I can't die so that leaves likely outcomes as:

8/3/1
8/4/1
7/4/1
7/5/1
6/5/1

Anything else is town/SK loss I think.

CubEdIn

Romania5359 Posts

January 15 2011 02:12 GMT

#1107

Question:
Should I protect someone who I think is scum (and die if I'm weak) or someone who I think is important to town (and risk role-blocking).

Or someone who I'm 50-50 about?

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

January 15 2011 02:14 GMT

#1108

And I'm not too worried about mafia, as they can't kill me. Its you guys turning on me (like you tried to there) that I don't want to happen obviously. If I can't trust you then its in my best interest to put town in a lylo situation where it is in no way beneficial for you to lynch me.

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

January 15 2011 02:17 GMT

#1109

On January 15 2011 11:14 deconduo wrote:
And I'm not too worried about mafia, as they can't kill me. Its you guys turning on me (like you tried to there) that I don't want to happen obviously. If I can't trust you then its in my best interest to put town in a lylo situation where it is in no way beneficial for you to lynch me.

I honestly dont want deconduo to die but the deadline is done. He already lost the game and can be lynched any day. Hes also a threat to mafia and they cant win with him alive.

CubEdIn

Romania5359 Posts

January 15 2011 02:17 GMT

#1110

No dec, that would lead to town loss for sure since we don't have any clue on other mafia members. And if KP is 1-1, with one team having all the info on the other one, you'll have to keep that balance on and on.

Plus, if certain things go certain ways, you will end the game by killing a townie tonight. Don't think you can cause lylo unless you get lucky.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

January 15 2011 02:20 GMT

#1111

Yah tonight I will try and hit mafia (bumatlarge seems like a good choice) But don't fck me over tomorrow ok? At least give me a chance

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

January 15 2011 02:21 GMT

#1112

What are the chances that traitor was recruited last night btw?

CubEdIn

Romania5359 Posts

January 15 2011 02:23 GMT

#1113

I'd say low unless mafia has CPR and JOAT.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

January 15 2011 02:25 GMT

#1114

GGQ - KP1
Barundar - KP2
Divinek - Hide Fail
HaploPaithan - KP3
Jackal58 - Me

KP1: Mafia
KP2: LSB
KP3:JOAT/CPR/3rd SK

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

January 15 2011 02:27 GMT

#1115

Cube I'll request your protection if you trust me. Mafia doesn't have to hit the traitor only target them so the odds are pretty high he was recruited, especially the way they pushed for no lynch.

CubEdIn

Romania5359 Posts

January 15 2011 02:27 GMT

#1116

Yeah that's what I'm saying.
So unless mafia had both CPR to account for KP3 and JOAT to account for 1, then they couldn't have recruited traitor, right?

I am dismissing possibility of 3 x SK as that would be highly imbalanced for town

CubEdIn

Romania5359 Posts

January 15 2011 02:29 GMT

#1117

@ kita: that's fine with me but if I roleblock the vig it would be a bad move.
I'll consider it, will announce who I chose before sunrise.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

January 15 2011 02:33 GMT

#1118

On January 15 2011 11:27 CubEdIn wrote:
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
So unless mafia had both CPR to account for KP3 and JOAT to account for 1, then they couldn't have recruited traitor, right?

I am dismissing possibility of 3 x SK as that would be highly imbalanced for town

Then there is not much point going after traitor yet, so I am going to ignore the fishball/cubed thing and stick with bum.

Other candidates I think could be mafia are misder and beneather. Might be people to think about kita.