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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 10 2010 02:46 GMT
#13
I thought this game wasn't going to start for a while. When do you plan on starting it?
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 10 2010 16:52 GMT
#21
I propose that for this game players and any analyzers try to establish a good learning environment. Let's attempt to replace the terms "noob/vet" with the less polarizing "junior/senior".

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 10 2010 19:14 GMT
#23
I didn't mean it as a criticism towards you RoL! I think it's more that if we use the language we tend to think that way too. "Noobs" could be intimidated by the "vets" when in fact we're all still learning.

While reading over the posts, I've been seeing "vets" use the term "newbie" or "noobs" and newcomers using "noob". In a positive teaching environment, such as this one, everybody has something that they can work on. Hence my proposition to switch to more constructive terms.

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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 15 2010 21:40 GMT
#28
=) I'm not worried.

I'm just establishing my 'meta'... j/k! Or am I? =)

No, I want everyone to feel welcome, hehe.
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 22 2010 05:12 GMT
#40
You said earlier that we can request partners or sign up in teams, right? =)
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 22 2010 15:10 GMT
#45
On December 22 2010 15:55 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 14:12 kingjames01 wrote:
You said earlier that we can request partners or sign up in teams, right? =)

yes sir! Does that mean your in KJ?

also updated.


I'll be back in time to join this. Which team would you assign me to? =)
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 23 2010 06:10 GMT
#72
I'll join in as a Senior player if there is still need for one more. If not, then I'll just sit out and watch. =)
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 24 2010 17:07 GMT
#79
hehe, brotherly love. =) <3
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 24 2010 17:45 GMT
#80
Does anyone want to be my partner?
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 05 2011 02:29 GMT
#207
Although there doesn't seem to be too much discussion so far, I disagree with the notion that we don't have enough information to analyze.

It's a little tough since there are 2 or 3 members to keep track of for each team.

In the following I'm going to compile all of the posts made by the team of Foolishness, TheMango and GMarshal.

TheMango
On January 03 2011 21:18 TheMango wrote:
Checking in, I might be away until tomorrow sometime, will be checking via phone and will be in touch with my team


Comment
  • TheMango's only post has no information relevant to the game.


Foolishness
On January 04 2011 05:24 Foolishness wrote:
From TL Mafia XXXV:

Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 11:11 LSB wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I wanted to wait for the day post before posting this but w/e


All right, in many games there was an uneventful first day. Lets not make this one of those games.

A few things to talk about:
  • Should we lynch an inactive day one? Assuming of course, there is no good alternative
  • Plans for the roles

Inactives:
A big problem in every mafia game is inactivity. I don't want another drag_ being able to squeak by with barely any posts. We should immediately show it is not okay to be inactive.

Inactive players hurt the town as they waste lynches down the road as the town will need to try to separate the mafia from the inactives.

We should therefore push to lynch an inactive day one. This will force the assassins to discuss and not be able to turtle, increasing the chance they will slip up.
The key is that we have to make sure the town knows it is not okay to just simply sit back and not do anything. This way, hopefully everyone will be active and we won't need to lynch an inactive.

Plan
Firstly. DO NOT CLAIM
DO NOT CLAIM

Good now that we got that out of the way, some other ideas.

Generic Blue Activity plan
One plan that would work is to use the blue roles to promote activity in the town.
The DTs should check the inactive people and the lurkers, as it is incredibly difficult if not impossible to tell the difference between a bored townie and a lurking mafia.
The Medics should protect active players, this way the mafia won't be able to take out the people who are contributing the most to town, so people won't be scared of trying to put forth their opinions.

Framer Issue: Framers are much better put to use framing the important townies. So any attempt by the mafia for framing the inactives would be a waste.


From this game:

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 00:37 LSB wrote:
Well... Activity isn't going to magically create itself. So...



All right, in many games there was an uneventful first day. Lets not make this one of those games.

A few things to talk about:
  • Should we lynch an inactive day one? Assuming of course, there is no good alternative
  • Plans for the roles

Inactives:
A big problem in every mafia game is inactivity. I don't want another drag_ being able to squeak by with barely any posts. We should immediately show it is not okay to be inactive.

Inactive players hurt the town as they waste lynches down the road as the town will need to try to separate the mafia from the inactives.

We should therefore push to lynch an inactive day one. This will force the assassins to discuss and not be able to turtle, increasing the chance they will slip up.
The key is that we have to make sure the town knows it is not okay to just simply sit back and not do anything. This way, hopefully everyone will be active and we won't need to lynch an inactive.

Plan
Firstly. DO NOT CLAIM
DO NOT CLAIM

Good now that we got that out of the way, some other ideas.

Generic Blue Activity plan
One plan that would work is to use the blue roles to promote activity in the town.
The DTs should check the inactive people and the lurkers, as it is incredibly difficult if not impossible to tell the difference between a bored townie and a lurking mafia.
The Medics should protect active players, this way the mafia won't be able to take out the people who are contributing the most to town, so people won't be scared of trying to put forth their opinions.

Copy paste ftw?


On January 05 2011 06:13 Foolishness wrote:
3 pages in almost 2 days is lol


Comments
  • Foolishness has 2 posts in the game thus far.
  • The first was made just to point out that LSB copied and pasted.
  • The second adds nothing to the game.


GMarshal
On January 05 2011 01:12 GMarshal wrote:
Well, I find this lack of information to be rather annoying, with nothing to go on, and having to vote, perhaps lynching an inactive is the only choice (lynching the most active person certainly dosn't seem like the best idea ), basically unless more information crops up I think we have to lynch an inactive.

What are we going to do if everyone posts though?


On January 05 2011 03:37 GMarshal wrote:
Alright, I counted up who has the least number of posts and by my count that would be Beneather/Bloody_C0bbler (if I counted right, I was slightly rushed as chem lecture was almost over). I'll remind you guys that TheMango is away for most of today and hence why he hasn't been posting. I understand that Beneather is having difficulty in reaching BC but that could just be a clever tactic on BC's part (then again its possible he is just busy). Also Ace, whats up with "You should just vote for whoever you think will not help you win the game."? That's a rather... interesting post.

Anyway, I have to go to calculus now, I'll probably check back in with a vote after that.


On January 05 2011 06:49 GMarshal wrote:
##Vote Beneather/BC

As I said earlier they only have two posts, neither of which seems contribution, I understand BC might be away or something, but I want to preempt any possibility of him being a cautious lurker


On January 05 2011 06:51 GMarshal wrote:
since I cant edit and grammar mistakes annoy me to no end, I meant "neither of which seem to be a contribution" as the sentence stands now it makes no sense


On January 05 2011 10:52 GMarshal wrote:
Well, this is causing quite a stir. Ace you seem to be pretty upset at the vote against orgolove. I didn't see this kind of reaction to when Beneather/BloodyC0bbler were under attack. But I like LSB's question. Who do you propose Ace?


Comments
  • GMarshal is the most active member of this team with 5 posts.
  • The first indicates his support of lynching inactive teams.
  • The second chooses the "most" inactive team and justifies why his own team is inactive. He tentatively points a finger at Ace for his "rather... interesting" post.
  • The third post is an "oh, I forgot to vote before" post.
  • The fourth post is an edit/clarification.
  • The fifth post is another finger pointed at Ace for his lack of reaction towards Beneather/BC.


I think that we should apply a little more pressure to this team.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 05 2011 02:37 GMT
#210
Well, I just read through the thread and I'm pretty sure that RoL said there would be no modkills for inactivity.

Also, I think Beneather is not mafia and his team is at risk of being lynched.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 05 2011 02:40 GMT
#211
On January 05 2011 11:34 LSB wrote:
Well, if TheMango doesn't vote soon, he's going to get modkilled, so I don't think it's going to be that big of an issue if they are mafia.

On the other hand, Ace is such an interesting candidate.


On January 05 2011 11:37 kingjames01 wrote:
Well, I just read through the thread and I'm pretty sure that RoL said there would be no modkills for inactivity.

Also, I think Beneather is not mafia and his team is at risk of being lynched.


On January 04 2011 07:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 06:36 aidnai wrote:
EBWOP

A few rules to clear up:
Are we expected to stop communicating with our senior/junior partner if they are modkilled?
Do we vote to lynch teams, or individuals?


This game will have no modkills, I have decided it is pointless because both juniors and seniors are useless without the other. If you are inactive then its your loss on a learning experience and I will ban you from future boot camps. By joining this game and going inactive you steel someone elses opportunity to learn which is a dick move.


Ace is always an interesting candidate. His philosophy for Mafia games is counter-intuitive at first sight but is very effective.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 05 2011 02:55 GMT
#214
In the following I'm going to compile all of the posts made by the team of Beneather and bloodyc0bbler.

bloodyc0bbler

Comment
  • bloodyc0bbler has not posted during this game.


Beneather
On January 04 2011 05:19 Beneather wrote:
Happy New Year everyone checking in.
I have a problem I haven't gotten a response from my partner Bloody C0bbler yet.


On January 04 2011 12:17 Beneather wrote:
LSB I did post but since you didn't see it. I was saying that I couldn't get a hold of Bloody_C0bbler. Is this a problem for the whole game or just for me?


On January 05 2011 09:06 Beneather wrote:
Sorry for being inactive and all (schoolwork and socializing)
Subversion would you mind reposting it so it is easier to read?


On January 05 2011 09:52 Beneather wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 09:44 Subversion wrote:
Oh okay, soz, that actually makes a lot of sense.

Ugh this Day 1 vote is really just.. meh. Really not much to go on. For now I'm going with:

##Vote Beneather/BC

My main reasoning here is that Beneather seems reluctant to say anything without BC being here to give him advice. Seems like a scummy junior would be scared of exposing himself without a senior to run his posts by. Also, BC yet to make an appearance.


That's pretty much the whole post, except I also just said thanks to LSB for clarifying the check inactives plan, and why its good.


Well it's kinda frustrating have a teammate that is not here that you absolutely have no contact with it really ruins the experience of the game of having a senior right? You can basically say that to any other inactive team out there. I'm not going to be pointing my finger at another team since people are just voting for inactivity. But it seems like your just bandwagoning since you don't have any other person to vote for.


Comments
  • Beneather has posted that he has not been in touch with bloodyc0bbler.
  • Subversion accuses Beneather of acting "like a scummy junior" who "would be scared of exposing himself without a senior to run his posts by."
  • Subversion adds more justification to his vote by pointing out that BC has not posted yet.
  • Beneather has some experience playing TL Mafia and I think he would post without having to check with BC first.


I think that the Beneather/bloodyc0bbler team is not Mafia and we need to do something to save them. Also, Subversion's post that was quoted above makes me suspicious of him.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 05 2011 03:36 GMT
#222
On January 05 2011 12:09 Beneather wrote:
Oh yeah forgot to vote
##Vote: Aidnai


Beneather, aidnai is on my team. You are voting for him because he has been vocal against several teams. His intention was to apply pressure and draw out inactive players.

At the moment, we're working to try and save you. I know that the original voting deadline has passed but just in case we get an extension, switch it to someone who might be Mafia.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 05 2011 03:41 GMT
#224
On January 05 2011 12:06 LSB wrote:
Kingjames. So are you fingering Subversion?

Well, day is over


To be honest, I think Kavdragon is Red and, by association, you.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 06 2011 06:31 GMT
#278
On January 06 2011 14:39 Subversion wrote:
Morning everyone.

Since mafia already knows, I've been roleblocked


Forgive me if I don't believe you. If you were roleblocked, why would you even admit to that? The Roleblocker wouldn't know that he had successfully found a Blue. You could have just stayed quiet and used your power tonight.

My opinion is that you're actually Mafia and you're worried that you might get lynched today. I've pointed out that you've been suspicious and now you're panicking.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 06 2011 06:47 GMT
#281
On January 06 2011 15:42 annul wrote:
nevermind


annul, you actually won Experimental Mini Mafia as a Red. Why don't you count that one?
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 06 2011 06:58 GMT
#282
On January 06 2011 15:46 TheMango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 15:31 kingjames01 wrote:
On January 06 2011 14:39 Subversion wrote:
Morning everyone.

Since mafia already knows, I've been roleblocked


Forgive me if I don't believe you. If you were roleblocked, why would you even admit to that? The Roleblocker wouldn't know that he had successfully found a Blue. You could have just stayed quiet and used your power tonight.

My opinion is that you're actually Mafia and you're worried that you might get lynched today. I've pointed out that you've been suspicious and now you're panicking.


Shouldn't a roleblocked person always out themselves? What is there to gain by keeping quiet? Since subversion has not roleclaimed, mafia should still have no new information, while it possibly helps town.


Well, let's consider what you're saying. If he is telling the truth, then what has the Town learned by Subversion revealing that he's been Roleblocked?

It let's us know that the set-up is: 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Goon, 5 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective.

It also let's the Mafia know that Subversion is a Blue. That makes him a target for tonight.

Now consider if Subversion is Red and is lying.
A good reason for him to lie about being roleblocked is if there is no Roleblocker in the game.

That would mean that the set-up is one of:
2 Mafia Goon, 1 Medic, 6 Town
2 Mafia Goon, 1 Detective, 6 Town

He can safely lie about being roleblocked since there is 1 Blue out there.

If the true Blue reveals himself, then he's a target for tonight.

Subversion will dodge the lynch especially if he gets support from his Mafia buddies.

Too bad I can't vote or I'd register my vote now. Don't believe Subversion's sub-version of the truth.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 06 2011 07:15 GMT
#284
On January 06 2011 16:05 TheMango wrote:
I see, so you only get the mesg that you've been roleblocked if you are actually a blue? What happens if you're a green?

Show nested quote +
Don't believe Subversion's sub-version of the truth.


lol cute


As far as I understand it, you only get told that you've been roleblocked if your action doesn't go through.

Greens don't have abilities so they can't be blocked.

If Subversion was telling the truth, then he can only be a Medic or a DT.

If he was a Medic, then it only matters if he was trying to save LSB/Kavdragon.

If he was a DT, then he didn't get his check.

Anyway, I don't believe him so it doesn't matter. He's doing this to dodge the lynch.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
January 06 2011 07:54 GMT
#286
On January 06 2011 16:49 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 15:47 kingjames01 wrote:
On January 06 2011 15:42 annul wrote:
nevermind


annul, you actually won Experimental Mini Mafia as a Red. Why don't you count that one?


i dont count minis - they are a side game to me


ah, okay! That's what I figured you were doing.

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