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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 09 2011 20:54 GMT
#372
I'll see if I can get in touch with gmarshall
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 09 2011 20:57 GMT
#375
On January 10 2011 05:55 Ace wrote:
Mango take your vote off of Nemesis. It's majority lynch and you could end up costing us the game. If you think you may switch later take your vote off now. If you aren't sure DONT VOTE.


what? I dont understand, as long as I switch before day is over, should I change my mind, its still safe right?
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 09 2011 21:06 GMT
#379
On January 10 2011 06:04 Ace wrote:
I can't vote remember?

So if you are claiming you were responsible for Orgo's lynch, and appeared on another innocent lynch wagon then why should I believe you? I just quoted a post of yours where you said you don't really think myself or LSB are scum but don't exactly trust us. You say Nemesis is fishy but you didn't vote for him. That's wishy washy.

If you believe you are the most outstanding figure in this game and we haven't caught any mafia then yea, I think it's safe to say I don't mind lynching you. If you can present a scenario where Subversion is telling the truth about being role blocked and Nemesis must be a fake DT then show it.

@Mango: If your vote is there and someone else comes in and quickvotes then it's an instant lynch.


Moderators, can you please confirm? I thought votes didn't count until day was over? Ace's explanation doesn't make sense to me...
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 10 2011 22:44 GMT
#414
Just got done with work, so I've been reading the recent posts. I'm really surprised the aidnai is suddenly switching to subversion, when he was dead set on nemesis...

basically it comes down to this for me: Nemesis/Chaos & Meapak/Ace are mafia team, or it's aidnai/KJ & Subversion/Incognito are mafia team.

Although I was suspicious of aidnai, the last couple posts had me leaning towards him being town, and Nemesis DT claim is more suspicious to me than Subversion roleblocked claim. I think Subversion is more likely just a really inactive townie, while Nemesis claim of DT seems like a desperate measure to win the game. I'm currently writing up an analysis of why I think Nenemsis/Chaos & Meapak/Ace are mafia, might take me 15 mins or so.
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 10 2011 23:55 GMT
#421
Ok, so I was in the middle of typing up a long analysis on Nemesis's voting/posting pattern, but I'm going to do a setup analysis first:

Set Up:
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 1 Mafia Goon, 5 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective (Not likely, that means, 2 of the 5 teams are blue, and we haven't had a save yet, nor do we have people claiming themselves at this critical day period)

1 Mafia Role Blocker, 1 Mafia Goon, 7 Town (The most likely scenario if Subversion roleblock claim is correct, and Nemsis is fake claiming DT)

2 Mafia Goon, 1 Medic, 6 Town. (Not likely at all, since then both Subversion AND Nemesis are lying, which makes zero sense)

2 Mafia Goon, 1 Detective, 6 Town. (The most likely scenario if Subversion is lying and Nemesis is actually DT)

Here is my 'read' on Subversion. He just doesn't care and is super inactive. The role block claim was legit. I think a fake roleblock claim by an inactive mafia makes so sense, and him being inactive actually reinforces my opinion that he is in fact green. Everything points to someone that just doesn't care enough to be active (btw mods, I think he should at least get a warning for this game at least, because his inactivity is borderline modkill level.)

I'll post a more detailed post on Nemesis after I eat dinner, but looking at both team pairs as a whole, I have to go with the nemesis/chaose & meapak/ace over kj/aidnai & subversion/incog. Basically it comes down to the latter team feeling way more green than the first team pair.
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 10 2011 23:57 GMT
#422
On January 11 2011 08:31 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 07:44 TheMango wrote:
Just got done with work, so I've been reading the recent posts. I'm really surprised the aidnai is suddenly switching to subversion, when he was dead set on nemesis...

basically it comes down to this for me: Nemesis/Chaos & Meapak/Ace are mafia team, or it's aidnai/KJ & Subversion/Incognito are mafia team.

Although I was suspicious of aidnai, the last couple posts had me leaning towards him being town, and Nemesis DT claim is more suspicious to me than Subversion roleblocked claim. I think Subversion is more likely just a really inactive townie, while Nemesis claim of DT seems like a desperate measure to win the game. I'm currently writing up an analysis of why I think Nenemsis/Chaos & Meapak/Ace are mafia, might take me 15 mins or so.

Hmm...it's been over half an hour, nice analysis.


I got interrupted couple times IRL, don't you worry, analysis on you is incoming.
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 10 2011 23:58 GMT
#423
On January 11 2011 08:36 aidnai wrote:
remember Mango, once you switch your vote it's final, because of the tie situation. So don't do it until you're absolutely certain. Just saying.


yea, I dont want to get vote sniped either, but I'm pretty certain that Nemesis/Chaoser & meapak/Ace are mafia team, pending some explanations from Subversion/Incog (they better show up)
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 10 2011 23:58 GMT
#424
brb dinner
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 11 2011 01:06 GMT
#427
Nemesis vote history (counting the ones he retracted)

Vote: TheMango/Gmarshal/Foolishness (Day 1 vote) - retracted
##Vote: Team 9 Flamewheel/Orgolove (Day 1 vote) - townie
##Vote Team 6 Kingjames01/Aidnai (Day 2 vote) - townie
##Vote Team 7 Subversion/Incognito (Day 3 vote) - based on DT claim checks

small game/small sample size, could have easily just made wrong votes as a townie, I think some of us may have similar records, so not really too suspicious by itself...

Day 1 Votes - Votes on the 'inactives', which to be fair, both me and Gmarshall were inactive for most of Day 1, then he switches to another town team.

Day 2 Votes - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=175638&currentpage=16#316

says Subversion is NOT scummy, then votes KJ/aidnai, and then 'CHECKS' subversion???

Day 3 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=175638&currentpage=16#316 and read the post right below. Looks like mafia team work to me imo.

I've had my suspicions about Meapak/Ace as well, due to Meapak's suspicious inactivity around the time he got killed in the Mafia game (he was active on the IRC channel even after his death, but was inactive in this game for at least a day or so). But other than that, my case on them is pretty weak. My main suspicion is on Nemesis, and by association, I'm saying Meapak/Ace has to be mafia for obvious reasons.

It looks like the swing vote rests with KJ/aidnai. I do not want to make a mistake and lose the game at this point, so I hope Subversion/Incog shows up ASAP and says something. Also, it would help if KJ spoke up, being the senior on that team.
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 11 2011 01:08 GMT
#428
I'm going to be playing sc2 for about 2 hours so brb, but I'll definitely be here for the last 2 hours or so.
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 11 2011 01:24 GMT
#429
Sorry, noticed I put the same link for the Day 3, here is the correct one:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=175638&currentpage=18#351
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 11 2011 02:23 GMT
#432
becoming desperate? so now I'm obviously mafia since I called you guys out? The truth is, my analysis doesnt prove 100% on way or the other, or we wouldnt be in this situation. But im now convinced based on your reaction.
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 11 2011 02:24 GMT
#433
I have irc logs that prove you were chatting in that channel while people were wondering where you were in our game. I dont think I can even post them here, but I'm not the only one that called you out on it.
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 11 2011 02:44 GMT
#437
? whats so lol about it. I wish gmarshal was here so he could back me up, or tell me I'm being stupid. But you're acting very scummy right now. I like how you ask the DT to come out, as someone wouldnt have come out already if they were DT, LOL
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 11 2011 03:34 GMT
#440
people better start coming on and posting because this would be really sad if we lost cause of lack of information due to inactives. Need gmarshal, subversion to post asap, and seniors KJ and foolishness would be of great help right now.
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 11 2011 03:38 GMT
#442
1.5 hours... I'm not hopeful, if they haven't shown up by now, its unlikely they will show up last minute. Means vote lies with aidnai, which is why I'm praying KJ will log on and advise.
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-11 07:38:55
January 11 2011 07:17 GMT
#481
wheeeee Personally I really like the smaller games. 30 person games is ridiculous to me, and its hard to wade through like 10pages a day worth of text a day and do meaningful analysis on everyone.

Thx to my mafia teammates, even though you guys all went semi afk on me at the very end, lol. A win is a win amirite?

I especially like the multiple role possibility setup, as it gives mafia some room to maneuver.

Overall, great game setup. Only negative point is that activity could have been better from some people.
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TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
January 11 2011 21:24 GMT
#488
On January 12 2011 06:21 LSB wrote:
I get killed way to early...


hahaha, too vocal, had to get rid of you asap! :D
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