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On December 15 2010 09:31 DarthThienAn wrote:
I agree that BB has been pretty useless this game. But do you guys think he's mafia? I don't want to just lynch another useless/inactive townie zzz.
On December 15 2010 06:51 DarthThienAn wrote:
I voted zeks, because I think he's the best chance of being mafia of the people we have now. I also haven't read the last couple pages cuz I'm busy, but I want to point out deconduo again... I'm not sure he said anything this game --useful-- other than giving a reason for his vote.
Not much to help us here.
I guess we could say that DarthTienAn might have DT checked BB.
Amber[Light] would have claimed if he stumbled on something useful.
Pandain's only post
On December 15 2010 07:31 Pandain wrote:Alright hai everyone, I'm here. And I haven't fully caught up yet but I think I would just like to share some of my thoughts. 1.I do not believe Gabriel is scum.Why would a mafia be SO active day 1, and even more so. Rather than just chillaxing in the back and letting town go vs town, he's actually actively trying to find scum. Now, what I find interesting is that if he was scum, then 1.Why haven't his scum buddies reigned him in at all. 2.Why does he keep making such long posts on day 1, which is really the best day since mafia can go afk basically. It just doesn't make sense for gabriel to be mafia. There is still a slight chance that he is, but that is overshadowed by the likes of Seraph, zeks, and DXCVILL for instance, all of those who have been "contributing without contributing"(save zeks recently.) If we do lynch zeks, not only do we lynch a potential scum, but if he flips mafia then the 11-12 outcome on day 1 will immensely help us with scum hunting. That's only a side bonus, but it is a point worth noting. Furthormore, town needs to broaden its perspectives. It is too late to go after these, but I am posting these here, those who have been "contributing without really contributing." In the interest of time I shall just post one, but there are others who I shall bring up as well. Seraph+ Show Spoiler +On December 10 2010 07:19 seRapH wrote:
PROFESSOR OAK DIED?!
NOOOOOOOOOOO spam On December 11 2010 02:41 seRapH wrote:I HAVE AWOKEN FROM MY SLUMBER Going to read through thread now  spam On December 11 2010 03:15 seRapH wrote:
Oh come on guys, 5 people voting for Gabriel out of nowhere? He hasn't really been very scummy imo. I'm keeping an eye on this bandwagon for scum, it's very likely that someone amongst these 5 are poison-type pokemon, maybe even multiple of them.
As of right now, I still don't see any obvious scum, or even likely scum, for that matter. Lynching inactive won't be a bad option at any rate, and likely a better choice than blindly following one of the two bandwagons right now. post to just get by On December 11 2010 05:25 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2010 04:50 Infundibulum wrote:On December 11 2010 04:15 Hesmyrr wrote:
There is one possible reason why I am willing to give Gabriel null-read for now, but I am going to wait for him to come and explain himself first to see if his argument agrees with mine. Am i the only one that thinks this is a rather pointless post? At the very least he's voicing his disagreement with the Gabriel bandwagon. pointless On December 11 2010 13:35 seRapH wrote:
ALL MIND GAMES
Plus it pushes people to actually post. In the end it's all about how much content we have. pointless, and whats with the "we" On December 12 2010 07:55 seRapH wrote:
I'm voting for Kenpachi now because he started the lynch Gabe wagon, and because he has no posts of substance.
No substance --> Airhead --> KOFFING irony On December 13 2010 13:38 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2010 12:45 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:you know that kind of sucks. I only got to read half the thread  This sucks for you I really want to know who the voltorb's on now... spam/fishing????? On December 13 2010 21:20 seRapH wrote:
WHAT
WE LOST MEAPAKK TOO?!
T_T
Immediate FoS on ghurur for FoS'ing Meapakk. Mafia would likely continue attacking their intended targets, especially if they were chansey'd. bad accusation, and weak one too.
Tiny bit of pressure on Seraph
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Wow, Pandain turned up blue...
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On December 16 2010 11:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Holy shit, I was so wrong about amber O_O.... Now the town is really fucked, we have to lynch the right person within this next day, meaning mewtwo if we even want to survive this at all...
Good idea
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Insanious, what do you think of Shockeyy?
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On December 16 2010 12:36 d3_crescentia wrote:
I took the fourth hit.
3 KP + 1 SK = 4
Amber[Light]=1
Brownbear=1
Pandain=2
d3_crescentia=1
1+1+2+1=5
Explain
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Ah, that makes sence.
Sorry, I got excited for a sec.
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All right, I'll look over the analysis but next time dont quote spam... Or at least spoiler it
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Consider this question.
What is scummy? What is bad play?
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On December 17 2010 02:56 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 02:42 LSB wrote:
Consider this question.
What is scummy? What is bad play? In my opinion, Scummy play is play that benefits the Mafia, but not the town. Bad play is play that benefits the Mafia, AND the town. Good play is play that benefits the town, and not mafia. This asks the next question. What benefits the mafia, and Town? Town benefits from good analysis and discussion of suspects, with some emphasis on civility. Mafia benefits from everything that gets in the way of good discussion and analysis. (I.e, Spam, Bashing, etc...) I'd like to hear other's opinions though. Especially yours.
How do we tell the difference between a mafia and a scum? Do mafia always play scummly? Do town always play like townies?
According to your definition, everyone that has an analysis post is town. And this is obviously false.
What we need to look for is previous play. We need to see how they acted before. Kenpachi and Zeks were lynched because a bunch of sheep saw bad posts but didn't think.
Long story short, vote for shockeyy
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Cliffnotes on Analysis
My Thoughts
Shockeyy: (By LSB)
1) Lurks all the time
2) Does not take a position
3) Responds only when pressured
4) Profile matches with previous scum play.
D3_crescentia (By Kavdragon)
1) Critiques stuff without alternatives Yeah... because everyone offered alternatives to my plan. </sarcasm>
2) Spam Yeah... because only scum spam.</sarcasm>
3) States obvious points and mini analysis
Insanious (By DCLXVI)
1) Has a few good posts FOS DCLXVI
2) Lack of activity Yeah because you're a shining example of what it is like to be active
On December 16 2010 16:39 Brocket wrote:
Satisfactory analyses, well done gentlemen.
DCLXVI even bought attention to himself about the two voters against him being eliminated via analysing insanious. So it's a sign of honesty but the fact is still suss. I'm still not trusting Gabe because of kenpachi+ jcarl.
d3 hasn't been very consistent, that much is true. Why is it that townies seem to crumble when they are accused, you've got nothing to hide, don't make things worse by blurting out names and getting unnecessarily offended by accusation.
WTF?????? Is this sarcasm?
DCLXVI (By Insanious) Interesting, do you want to look at his previous play to confirm? I could give you Segunko PMs if you'd think they'd be useful
1) Contributed nothing to the thread, just did token posts to seem like he was participating
2) Continuously uses the "I don't read the thread much" card, even though he seems to know what's going on
3) Got FoS'd by two players who died in the last night period
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On December 15 2010 10:30 LSB wrote:All right. If Zeks flips green. Take note of this. If he's red, I will eat my words. The issue today that I don't want to lynch Zeks. We're falling with the same trap with lynching Kenpachi. They play like this all the time. Lynching zeks would just be like doing a random pick. However, mafia always has a hand in RNG. I pushed ShoCkeyy because I agreed with D3 that we need to make the lurkers more visible. Amber[Light]'s response was not only OMGUS. He was well justified. Lurker pops up. Randomly votes Amber[Light], tries to hide. So, rather than voting Gabriel, I decided that ShoCkeyy is the better lynch. And after a few observations heres a few things I found Firstly: ShoCkeyy just flat out lurked: He had one post day one that did nothing but explain that "his vote really wasn't a vote" + Show Spoiler [First post] +On December 12 2010 05:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 04:35 tree.hugger wrote:On December 11 2010 17:41 tree.hugger wrote:My hunch is that he's not going to be able to commit fully to anything, no matter how much we prod.
On December 12 2010 02:30 Kenpachi wrote:
asdf. even when i post, i get pointed scum On December 12 2010 02:35 Kenpachi wrote:
okay so yea my posts were bad but what can i say? i couldnt offer anything there and there. So i voted Gabriel for blatant bandwagon. Then he reacts and i defend. On December 12 2010 02:27 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote tree.hugger On December 12 2010 04:10 Kenpachi wrote:On December 12 2010 03:39 DCLXVI wrote:
Thank you insanious and tree.hugger, I hope to see more people post like that. I don't understand why people are letting Kenpachi off the hook for bad posting. So what if he has a history of being less than stellar for the town. We cannot allow him to spam and distract the town because even if he isn't mafia, this helps the mafia. He is playing in a way that benefits the mafia, so even if he isn't (though I think he is), he is dangerous for the town. I really don't like the defense used by darth and meepak of "oh, well this is just how he normally plays". Townies don't intentionally hurt the town by doing what kenpachi is doing.
I'll hopefully be back in a bit before the vote ends, but I feel safe in putting my vote on Kenpachi. Every vote on him is a vote to clean up the town. youre dumb. what if i happened to be DT or Medic? On December 12 2010 04:13 Kenpachi wrote:On December 12 2010 04:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 12 2010 04:10 Kenpachi wrote:On December 12 2010 03:39 DCLXVI wrote:
Thank you insanious and tree.hugger, I hope to see more people post like that. I don't understand why people are letting Kenpachi off the hook for bad posting. So what if he has a history of being less than stellar for the town. We cannot allow him to spam and distract the town because even if he isn't mafia, this helps the mafia. He is playing in a way that benefits the mafia, so even if he isn't (though I think he is), he is dangerous for the town. I really don't like the defense used by darth and meepak of "oh, well this is just how he normally plays". Townies don't intentionally hurt the town by doing what kenpachi is doing.
I'll hopefully be back in a bit before the vote ends, but I feel safe in putting my vote on Kenpachi. Every vote on him is a vote to clean up the town. youre dumb. what if i happened to be DT or Medic? Are you claiming DT or medic? no i am not Word. I suppose we'll get treated to angry defending eventually, as he's in the lead right now, but hey, that might be too committed. Alright, I feel like kenpachi is getting way to agressive here. All his post have been aggressive and not helpful in anyway. + Show Spoiler +A) 4 hours does not judge that. what if i went on TL tomorrow for the first time in the past 3 days? B) Anyone who posts would want to look active.. Why would they post if they want to look inactive? C) Why are you assuming i read the rules? how do you know i didnt just assume the KP? D) It doesnt. shh E) ?? its enlightenment F) I dont agree with you voting for Infundibulum. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=174831¤tpage=14#270When he starts saying, that why do people assume that he reads the rules, makes me question him. Everyone reads the rules and we know this because that's part of the game. If he's saying he doesn't that just seems phishy to me imo. I also feel like, he posted the DT or Medic theory in order to try and get some people off of his case cause he can possibly be a TR member. I've seen this happen plenty of times where they pull out the "I might be a DT or Medic" and they end up not being it. My two cents, maybe I am wrong, but this is what I've been able to read off of. Very problemic analysis. Firstly, it doesn’t take an actual position. All it’s saying is “everyone else seems to be voting kenpachi so I’ll join in”. Lets take a look at his points 1) Kenpachi doesn't read the rules. Therefore he is scum. 2) Kenpachi soft claimed blue. Therefore he is scum There are two big problems. 1) Not reading the rules doesn't mean you are scum. It just means that you didn’t read the rules. 2) Kenpachi did not soft claim blue. On December 15 2010 04:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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Well my reasoning on voting for Gabriel was because in the first round he dodged my vote by the way kenpachi was acting, but then seeing jcarl go now and both of them being Gabriels prime targets in the beginning kinda made me switch over to them. Either way, I find it funny that you only target a quite few of us when actually there is A LOT of people missing that are not posting at all. To name some more, Amber[Light], Tube?... Why don't you target them as well? I don't understand why would you just target a select few of us instead of them and then JUST target me right after wards. I've been busy and reading up on what I could and making my voice count when needed and voting when I needed to.
Interesting defense. Immediately he starts attacking the person who pointed out that he wasn't doing anything. And these aren't actually good attacks. Take note that Amber[Light] and Tube were pretty active day 1. Secondly I could and making my voice count when needed Is just lol ShoCkeyy has been incredibly self centered. He does nothing but protect himself and justify However. every single one of his posts today were either defending himself, or attacking the people questioning him. Instead of not taking a position. ShoCkey starts going all out, accusing everyone. Doing anything he can to try to not become lynched. This is completely different from the ShoCkeyy we know. This could be an overdefensive townie. But far more likely it is a mafia trying not to attract attention day 1. Thirdly: ShoCkeyy had made no mention of Zeks.This is the most important subject today, and he still hasn't talked about Zeks? ShoCkeyy is obviously cutting ties because he knows that Zeks is green. + Show Spoiler +If Zeks is green, lynch ShoCkeyy
On December 15 2010 11:46 LSB wrote:ShoCkey Previous Game Analysis Caller's Red Army Mafyia: Role: Medic Posted 99% one liners. Got angry and warned for flaming. Mafia XVI: Role: Townie: Takes positions, especially on Xelin. Defends himself mostly civily. Mostly one-liners. + Show Spoiler +On January 21 2010 08:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2010 08:34 QuickStriker wrote:On January 21 2010 08:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On January 21 2010 08:17 QuickStriker wrote:On January 21 2010 08:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:
O_o we haven't started yet right? Uhh... yes we did??? And like no one is around to discuss and talk about the game in contrast to the other mafia game where it's way more active.... =/ Well I posted in the voting thread already since I couldn't find it till now ._. Hmm... well welcome!!! Glad to have at least one more active member of our little town.... it seems the mafias have put some poison gas or some sort of gas which is why everyone is silent or sleeping right now.... o.O Well QuickStriker, I will support you in this. I don't think you're the Mafia. Show nested quote +On January 20 2010 17:01 XeliN wrote:On January 20 2010 12:52 no_re wrote:Well hi everyone, my first mafia game, not entirely sure how it works so bare with me if Im doing it wrong, however relating to the "clues" posted everyday here is what I got from the above entry. My first thought when dissecting the post was this rather obvious quote: With a quick attack, the Sheriff Ace collapsed to the ground. A quick attack? Well with a player named QuickStriker in the game this looks like a kind of obvious clue. Also he was the first to respond to the first Sheriff Candidacy anouncement of Fulgrim, drawing attention to himself being "amused" by Fulgrim's "I'm not a mafia" comment. This intruiged me. I think that analysis overall was extremely good, from reading up on some earlier Mafia games it seems that the host often likes the come up with elaborate or entertaining deaths. This in itself makes the " With a quick attack " stand out far more in my eyes, and somewhat exonerates the other as possibly just being a whimsical choice by the host. In all honesty this by itself is enough to make me fairly suspicious and Quickstriker I am still more suspicious when I see some of what you have typed. In particular your reaction to no_re's non-serious accusation where you are essentially saying we must "hold off any action untill the DT comes forward and leads us through the valley of death and into the promised land" - I paraphrased, This however, as far as I can tell is an exceptionally bad strategy, the point of electing a mayor or sherrif is someone who seems active, discerning and importantly decisive, and your suggestion of sit and wait reeks to me on manipulation at an early stage. p.s. am i doin it rite? I think Xelin is the Mafia. He's already accusing you of being mafia even though the game hasn't started. Not only that, he's trying to submit himself as the Mayor, trying to find his way around from being lynched off. He knows that if he is able to be the mayor, then we're screwed. On January 21 2010 09:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Hmm, I don't like this whole vote for me thing. Seems fishy, and especially the way he words it. He tries to win you over, so he can make sure he wins. I like his style no lie. But I won't be able to vote for him. Laaan, sorry, but my vote remains the same.
All you out of towners better stay in ya'll wreckin area. We don't like you hippie folks round hea. On January 22 2010 00:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok, so I see some of you think I should be lynched. Well for one, I'm typing off my phone, so bare with me. Second, I voted for quikstriker, cause he seems like the right canidate for the mayor position out of everyone else here who is trying to be mayor. I rather choose some one who didn't impose themselves into trying to be mayor. Brings me to my reason as to why I would want xelin lynched.
Xelin saw that quikstriker was being the most helpful in this thread. He didn't like that, so he quickly picks quikstriker to be lynched. Then soon after post that he wants to be mayor, the reason as to why I don't want to vote for some one that says "I'm running for mayor." They seem more fake than anybody else here. Now I can tell you, I vote for xelin to be lynched 75% of the way.
The other 25% go to those who are quietly coming in that have watched us argue about who to lynch first. I feel like they watched us bicker to see and now that we have some what of an idea who we're going to lynch first. Now the mafia come in to back them up so we an lynch a townie. Which brings me to my other conclusion. Decafchicken I'm watching you. And one more that Shockeyy left out TL Mafia XVIII: Role: Mafia: Shockey was under heavy clue suspicion. He responded mostly civilly. However, most noticeably Shockey has essentially only one post that isn't either spam or defending himself (included below). Shockey shys away from taking any positions, besides defending himself. + Show Spoiler +On February 28 2010 07:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I think it's pretty clear right now that the town should not be voting to kill Scamp. He is right in that at best all L has is some shaky clue analysis. In fact, most of L's clue analysis is directed at other players (Chez, johnny, me) and not at Scamp, go read his posts if you don't believe me.
Something I've noticed is that Scamp has actually taken the time to legitimately defend himself. I remember when we were going to lynch Mystlord, he hardly said a thing and most of what he said only incriminated him more. Right now the only thing incriminating Scamp is L. Also when QS was going to be lynched he came up with the stupid modkill plan that had no way working. Scamp hasn't tried to pull anything of that caliber. It seems to me he's arguing as a townsperson.
To the town, L has already convinced you to lynch our Mayor/medic. What's going to happen when Scamp turns up innocent? We'll be in a bigger mindfuck than we are right now. tree.hugger is clearly the safer vote right now. It's no doubt that if Scamp does not get lynched, L will continue to incriminate him. If Scamp is indeed mafia, he's going to slip up somewhere. Do you agree? Or any objections?
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I would like to encourage everyone to vote for the double lynch because this increases Town KP. And Town KP is always better than Mafia/SK KP
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The key difference is the post history. Kenpachi and Zeks were consitant. Just a small 5 minute foray into their post history would allow you to see this result.
However, as town Shockeyy at least makes the effort to take positions and do things other than viciously defend himself. Shockeyy's mafia play fits his current play now.
Now that we know both kenpachi and zeks were green, we can predict the voting pattern of the mafia on the first day.
It makes sense for the mafia to not switch votes at the last second, mainly because they know both lynch candidates were town, and that switching votes would put the FoS on them.
I personally think that the mafia manipulated the voting so that there would be a close tie between the two candidates, thus FoSing people who change the vote. Basically, I think the most mafia are within the 3rd to 7th votes on the lynchees day one. (A better method would be to look at the vote timestamps)
The reason I brought this up is because this evidence may be
DCLXVI, Eiii were the only ones who voted both zeks and Kenpachi. However this isn't a big issue since Day 2, it was pretty clear that all the sheep were voting for zeks. We probably cannot receive any meaningful voting analysis day 2
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On December 17 2010 11:21 d3_crescentia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 11:10 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm not going to lie, this is starting to get real hard to follow with these huge walls of text. For example, quoting 4 separate blocks of text and replying "Meh." "Okay." "Don't care." and "But true." really takes away from your argument. Highlighting your main ideas, rather than responding to every single comment is definitely appreciated to keep the spam count low.
Also, I would like to remind everyone that we really should push for a double lynch today. I haven't seen a valid argument why this isn't a good idea.
Kavdragon, deconduo, ShoCkeyy all voted without requesting a double lynch and should be pressured to do so.
If we don't have two good lynch targets, then it's a waste and shortens the town day count by 1, IF we continue to miss lynches. And with our track record so far, that's pretty likely. The point of discussion here should be if we have two good targets, i.e. are any of myself/DCLXVI/Shockeyy/Gabriel worth being lynched? There also is the case of if we can find Mewtwo, whom if we lynch buys us another day.
Town KP is Always better than mafia KP. A double lynch has twice the likelyhood of netting a mafia. In addition it basically denies the mafia a night. That's four lives saved.
I think you and Shockeyy are good lynch targets tomorrow if neither of you are lynched today. Especially if you're going against a double lynch.
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On December 17 2010 12:00 d3_crescentia wrote:
Take this list and analyze the person that is immediately below you. Since I am at the bottom of the list I'll wrap things around and do deconduo. Use DECISIVE language in your posts; either say YES this person is scum and here's why or NO this person is not. Then the person who is TWO above you should analyze your analysis. This should get things rolling.
This is an incredible waste of time. What we need to do is focus on one or two people.
This is a great way for mafia to lurk, post an 'analysis', say the person is town, and then move away. Although interesting, we need to work on having a well thought out lynch. Unlike yesterday.
What everyone needs to do is give their opinion of Shockeyy. D3, I noticed that you were willing to lynch Shockeyy. Why not now?
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On December 17 2010 12:07 d3_crescentia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 12:00 LSB wrote:On December 17 2010 11:21 d3_crescentia wrote:On December 17 2010 11:10 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm not going to lie, this is starting to get real hard to follow with these huge walls of text. For example, quoting 4 separate blocks of text and replying "Meh." "Okay." "Don't care." and "But true." really takes away from your argument. Highlighting your main ideas, rather than responding to every single comment is definitely appreciated to keep the spam count low.
Also, I would like to remind everyone that we really should push for a double lynch today. I haven't seen a valid argument why this isn't a good idea.
Kavdragon, deconduo, ShoCkeyy all voted without requesting a double lynch and should be pressured to do so.
If we don't have two good lynch targets, then it's a waste and shortens the town day count by 1, IF we continue to miss lynches. And with our track record so far, that's pretty likely. The point of discussion here should be if we have two good targets, i.e. are any of myself/DCLXVI/Shockeyy/Gabriel worth being lynched? There also is the case of if we can find Mewtwo, whom if we lynch buys us another day. Town KP is Always better than mafia KP. A double lynch has twice the likelyhood of netting a mafia. In addition it basically denies the mafia a night. That's four lives saved. I think you and Shockeyy are good lynch targets tomorrow if neither of you are lynched today. Especially if you're going against a double lynch. I agree that Town KP > Mafia KP. It only has twice the likelihood if we pick at random. I don't have any confidence in this town's ability to find scum, given our overall track record and participation thus far. I don't understand what you mean by "it basically denies the mafia a night."
Right now, for every lynch, we have to sacrifice four townies at night.
Would you rather trust the mafia to kill the own, or the town to randomly guess correctly?
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On December 17 2010 12:22 d3_crescentia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 12:17 LSB wrote:On December 17 2010 12:07 d3_crescentia wrote:On December 17 2010 12:00 LSB wrote:On December 17 2010 11:21 d3_crescentia wrote:On December 17 2010 11:10 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm not going to lie, this is starting to get real hard to follow with these huge walls of text. For example, quoting 4 separate blocks of text and replying "Meh." "Okay." "Don't care." and "But true." really takes away from your argument. Highlighting your main ideas, rather than responding to every single comment is definitely appreciated to keep the spam count low.
Also, I would like to remind everyone that we really should push for a double lynch today. I haven't seen a valid argument why this isn't a good idea.
Kavdragon, deconduo, ShoCkeyy all voted without requesting a double lynch and should be pressured to do so.
If we don't have two good lynch targets, then it's a waste and shortens the town day count by 1, IF we continue to miss lynches. And with our track record so far, that's pretty likely. The point of discussion here should be if we have two good targets, i.e. are any of myself/DCLXVI/Shockeyy/Gabriel worth being lynched? There also is the case of if we can find Mewtwo, whom if we lynch buys us another day. Town KP is Always better than mafia KP. A double lynch has twice the likelyhood of netting a mafia. In addition it basically denies the mafia a night. That's four lives saved. I think you and Shockeyy are good lynch targets tomorrow if neither of you are lynched today. Especially if you're going against a double lynch. I agree that Town KP > Mafia KP. It only has twice the likelihood if we pick at random. I don't have any confidence in this town's ability to find scum, given our overall track record and participation thus far. I don't understand what you mean by "it basically denies the mafia a night." Right now, for every lynch, we have to sacrifice four townies at night. Would you rather trust the mafia to kill the own, or the town to randomly guess correctly? I trust mafia to kill people that are trying to be active in helping the town. Would you have the town go to RNG now? If everyone is more active and more aggressive in their play, then there would be more information available for analysis and (I think) a better chance at catching scum. Maybe picking 2-3 people for everyone to analyze is better; maybe not. Maybe I'm just retardedly wrong.
So killing people who actively try to help out the town is a good thing and we should have more of it?
D3 is SK
Remember. There is NO REASON to lynch D3. The mafia will take care of it by themselves
If the Mafia Uses a roleblock and a kill on the serial killer. Will the serial killer die?
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nvm about that. Apparently mewtoo can't be killed by the mafia
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Just pick up a piece of paper and do the math.
1 lynch + 4 kp + 1 lynch + 4 kp = 2 lynches +8 kp
2 lynches + 4 kp = 2 lynches + 4 kp.
You're reasoning is that during night the mafia will shoot for the active players... o.o
Just claim SK and be done with it.
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I'd rather let Mewtoo win then give mafia a perfect game.
This will be the game where Town/SK wins.
Please vote Shockeyy and double lynch everyone.
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