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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 18 2010 09:19 GMT
#915
Sorry for the lack of posts lately, between finals, flying across the country, and being at home where much of the time the only internet is the EDGE network from my phone, I've been having a hard time keeping up with mafia. Here are my thoughts at the moment.

I really think that the best place to look for mafia at the moment is the people that voted for d3. Eiii, BrownBear, Shockeyy, and DCL all left their votes on him, and I consider all of them to be scum or quite scummy. People should notice BrownBear in particular more, as it seems like he's flipped scum in all of these games where he has been very inactive and only occasionally chimes in with not much in particular.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 19 2010 04:19 GMT
#961
On December 19 2010 12:27 LSB wrote:
There goes the Brocket Idea...

It looks like everyone who voted for DCXLIV (except for Node) were killed.

DT, can you claim?


Are you sure that's wise, seeing as all of the medics are presumably dead?
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 19 2010 05:56 GMT
#966
All right, I'm going to go ahead and claim. It'll be the death of me, but hopefully town won't waste it.

I am Alakazam.

Night 1 I checked Eiii. Night 2 I checked DCLXVI. Both came up Team Rocket. Night 3 I was roleblocked. Note that this means mafia targeted everyone voting DCL in some way, and they had 2 roleblockers. I can't see them targeting me with a roleblock unless they thought I was on to something -- thus I think DCL is TR and not Raichu.

Do what you will. My cards are on the table.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 19 2010 16:26 GMT
#1000
Now that I've seen comments from both of them, allow me to fess up. Know that I am doing this not to save myself, but to keep town from lynching DCLXVI and Eiii. First, understand where I'm coming from.

I am in fact Alakazam.

I lied about who I checked. Yeah yeah, I know, LAL, but hear me out.

Night 1 I checked Insanious. Night 2 I checked Brocket. Night 3 I was roleblocked, and Insanious and Brocket died. Everything I had done up until that point in the game was invalidated, and I had good reason to believe that I would be killed on the following night. (clearly, mafia had an inkling that I'm blue) By lying, I was hoping that a) if they were scum, they would do something stupid or b) they would be forced to roleclaim and give town more clear lynch targets.

I do believe that DCL and Eiii are innocent, now. DCL's frankness regarding his bombs, and the rise of Eiii combined with the lack of other players coming out of nowhere to defend them have me fairly certain that they're town. Think about it: town has figured out on their own that the best lynch would be me and DCL. Two town-aligned players. It would give mafia the win. That's why we've seen nothing in the way of interference so far.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 19 2010 18:36 GMT
#1003
On December 20 2010 03:08 DCLXVI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 01:26 Node wrote:
Now that I've seen comments from both of them, allow me to fess up. Know that I am doing this not to save myself, but to keep town from lynching DCLXVI and Eiii. First, understand where I'm coming from.

I am in fact Alakazam.

I lied about who I checked. Yeah yeah, I know, LAL, but hear me out.

Night 1 I checked Insanious. Night 2 I checked Brocket. Night 3 I was roleblocked, and Insanious and Brocket died. Everything I had done up until that point in the game was invalidated, and I had good reason to believe that I would be killed on the following night. (clearly, mafia had an inkling that I'm blue) By lying, I was hoping that a) if they were scum, they would do something stupid or b) they would be forced to roleclaim and give town more clear lynch targets.

I do believe that DCL and Eiii are innocent, now. DCL's frankness regarding his bombs, and the rise of Eiii combined with the lack of other players coming out of nowhere to defend them have me fairly certain that they're town. Think about it: town has figured out on their own that the best lynch would be me and DCL. Two town-aligned players. It would give mafia the win. That's why we've seen nothing in the way of interference so far.

Wait what????? You go from your half assed lie of:
"I checked 2 reds the first two nights then sat on them instead of doing what a real dt would do and reveal them day 3"
To this?
I really wish I could've posted that before you wriggled out of that lie, but I was too late. Now you are trying to shift the lynch off of you and try to make me agree with it by calling me townie? Your story now is that you checked two useless players and got roleblocked so you cannot provide us with any information? Also you plan was to fish for our roles? To see if there were any more chanseys/dt's you needed to kill? Frankly I don't buy this story either. Town do the right thing and lynch this lying scum.


As I said, I'm okay with being lynched at this point as I recanted in order to keep you and Eiii from being lynched -- I recognize that what I did was super scummy.

But surely you realize that by lynching you (presuming you are Electrode) could very well win mafia the game at the end of the day. Why would I try to prevent that at this point? The dominant thought seemed to be lynch me and you. If I was mafia and had any sense at all, I would have let that happen. I know, I know, it's WIFOM, but getting mad hatter lynched didn't win salem mafia for town, and I doubt mafia would be opposed to trying that again here.

And also ask, where is the other DT then, hm? Surely a counter-claim against mine would have held substantial credibility.

I figured I was going to die tonight anyways. If I could claim and get a couple of townies confirmed out of it, then it would be worth it.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 19 2010 21:26 GMT
#1025
On December 20 2010 05:36 Infundibulum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 03:08 DCLXVI wrote:
On December 20 2010 01:26 Node wrote:
Now that I've seen comments from both of them, allow me to fess up. Know that I am doing this not to save myself, but to keep town from lynching DCLXVI and Eiii. First, understand where I'm coming from.

I am in fact Alakazam.

I lied about who I checked. Yeah yeah, I know, LAL, but hear me out.

Night 1 I checked Insanious. Night 2 I checked Brocket. Night 3 I was roleblocked, and Insanious and Brocket died. Everything I had done up until that point in the game was invalidated, and I had good reason to believe that I would be killed on the following night. (clearly, mafia had an inkling that I'm blue) By lying, I was hoping that a) if they were scum, they would do something stupid or b) they would be forced to roleclaim and give town more clear lynch targets.

I do believe that DCL and Eiii are innocent, now. DCL's frankness regarding his bombs, and the rise of Eiii combined with the lack of other players coming out of nowhere to defend them have me fairly certain that they're town. Think about it: town has figured out on their own that the best lynch would be me and DCL. Two town-aligned players. It would give mafia the win. That's why we've seen nothing in the way of interference so far.

Wait what????? You go from your half assed lie of:
"I checked 2 reds the first two nights then sat on them instead of doing what a real dt would do and reveal them day 3"
To this?
I really wish I could've posted that before you wriggled out of that lie, but I was too late. Now you are trying to shift the lynch off of you and try to make me agree with it by calling me townie? Your story now is that you checked two useless players and got roleblocked so you cannot provide us with any information? Also you plan was to fish for our roles? To see if there were any more chanseys/dt's you needed to kill? Frankly I don't buy this story either. Town do the right thing and lynch this lying scum.


I don't know. I kind of agree with deconduo (who has popped out of the woodwork here) that Node's claim doesn't make much since from a mafia perspective. They are in a strong position right now and don't need to risk much, unless they're going for style. I dunno Node's meta though so IDK if he's the kind of player that does those sort of things.

What you say also makes sense though. Node's story is VERY convenient. Remember Pandain's "checks" from the Insane mafia game where he lied about very convenient checks? I get the same vibe from the checks Node says he made. Also did Node claim he was roleblocked before this post? If I was roleblocked I'd probably claim ASAP, since it gives the town information.

I'm undecided on this as of yet but either way Node lying doesn't help his case here.

I think we also need to look at inactives - BrownBear, Oceanic, chaoser, are names that have been bugging me.


I said that I was roleblocked on the 3rd night in my initial claim -- if I said otherwise mafia would've known immediately that I was bullshitting.

I'm pretty suspicious of BrownBear calling my claim legit. Not so much because he says it at all, more because he doesn't back it up in the least. I highly doubt that BB is town at this point -- I've said it before, but it feels like every game where he barely posts at all he ends up red.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 19 2010 23:29 GMT
#1033
On December 20 2010 06:47 LSB wrote:
If you checked brocket, why didn't you try to stop us from Nightkilling him?


A few reasons:

1) His death wasn't a sure thing. A lot of people were saying, "mewtwo kill Brocket tonight", but d3 never confirmed that he was going to do that.

2) It's one thing to influence a group of people. It's another thing to convince a single person. If Brocket was being lynched, I would have come to his defense. But, I couldn't be sure that d3 would listen to me. In addition, d3 wasn't posting for most of the night phase, so I didn't know if it was even possible to influence his hit.

3) I couldn't think of a way to do it without coming off scummy myself short of roleclaiming during the night. People had already said they were suspicious of me, saying "oh by the way brocket is innocent" wouldn't have done me any favors. Roleclaiming would still have gotten me killed.

4) In the end, he was a townie. If he was blue I probably would have done something drastic.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 21 2010 01:39 GMT
#1060
Seeing as nobody else has claimed Alakazam, it'd be pretty great if someone could switch their vote off me so I don't get lynched. I believe after my vote I'm tied with dinmsab, and IIRC the first player to the high number of votes (me) gets lynched.

I promise that if I don't get lynched I'll die tonight, just to satisfy you guys. <3
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 21 2010 05:05 GMT
#1075
well shit

i'm going to hate myself forever if DCL and Gabriel are TR.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 21 2010 06:18 GMT
#1094
Welp, I guess that means it's officially over for town, now.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 21 2010 06:19 GMT
#1095
Thanks, gabriel.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 22 2010 03:17 GMT
#1132
Man.

I have yet to see town win a game. I feel bad.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 22 2010 03:40 GMT
#1134
I can't believe the day 1 bandwagon on Infundibulum would actually have been a good idea. -_-
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 22 2010 06:58 GMT
#1146
Son of a bitch. I was technically correct with my false claim, but I managed to get the Gengar. I need to learn to pursue these things more -- trust my gut, stick to my guns, push what I believe and damn the consequences. The one game I really did that in (assassin in the palace) it won me the game. If I had done so this time, I may have been able to get two TR lynched. :p

Reading kingjames' post reminded me of something I heard somewhere: Poker isn't a card game, it's a betting game. On the same note, Mafia is a game of manipulation, not a game of voting / roles / etc.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 22 2010 16:00 GMT
#1159
On December 23 2010 00:35 Insanious wrote:
Also a question, did anyone know I was a blue? I got FoS'ed like 4 times, never defended my self except vs DCL (who was mafia...) and no one even looked at it. I thought people thought I was green, but LSB knew I was a blue (although might be thinking too highly of LSBs powers)


Well, I knew.
whole lies with a half smile
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