EPTTL Mafia XXXIV: Pokemafia - Page 2
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On December 15 2010 06:51 Kavdragon wrote: One quick note. I was(am) writting up an analysis of this day's voting, and I'd like to remind people that we do have two double lynches. I actually think that we should use one right now, but if it get the town to stop bickering about Zeks and Gabe, then perhaps it will be of benefit. What do you guys think? Do we have a strategy for double lynches? Generally we want to use a double lynch before the mafia has a lot of vote swinging power. I like to start double lynching on Day 3 or 4 (remember, if we vote for double lynch on Day 3 it doesn't come active until Day 4) because around this time detectives have usually hit at least 1 red if they are playing well. In addition, if we miss the lynch today we will almost have to vote for double lynch tomorrow in order to increase our chances of catching up to the mafia in terms of kills, especially since we can't count on M2 and there is no vigilante role that is town aligned. | ||
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On December 15 2010 06:51 DarthThienAn wrote: I voted zeks, because I think he's the best chance of being mafia of the people we have now. I also haven't read the last couple pages cuz I'm busy, but I want to point out deconduo again... I'm not sure he said anything this game --useful-- other than giving a reason for his vote. good call on deconduo. notice his vote for gabe with a very short justification post in the thread. He was a bit more active Day 1 so I agree with your suspicion. | ||
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On December 15 2010 06:53 Brocket wrote: Good post Infund. Well as I said, I'm happy to vote myself day 3 should gabe be a red. I've never supported Zeks, I only suggested Gabe was a higher priority because there is evidence (set up or otherwise) pointing against him. I'll thrown in an extra. Whether zeks or gabe gets voted out as townie, I'll vote myself day 3. No worries. i think you mean should gabe be a town? in any case voting for yourself doesn't do anything, so I don't know what you're trying to prove. | ||
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On December 15 2010 07:31 Pandain wrote:\ But first, can someone just link me like a post or tell me exactly why zeks is a good lynch suspect. Sure, I can go over it: Day 1: he talked about me "slipping up" without explaining it much later when asked about it. He then gets really defensive and accuses people of overreacting to his votes, changes his vote to an inactive, and doesn't post as much for the rest of the day. But before the day ends he makes his "I think I'm dead post." GGQ correctly explained all the problems with that. Day 2: He very quickly goes after Gabriel, who as I explained before is an easy target and a good way to incite the town into an argument that can escalate out of control quickly. Aside from that I havent seen much of him. One big thing is that there's almost nobody defending him which i think is really surprising. Someone pointed out before that when a townie is going to be lynched, mafia like to defend him so they look good after the townie is lynched. So maybe zeks is red and is being bussed? | ||
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On December 15 2010 08:32 BrownBear wrote: I am here, voting for myself again because I'm not superconvinced by any arguments so far. That said, having Hesmyrr as a (mostly) confirmed town voice is nice. That is seriously all you have to say? What is not convincing? Do you have any better alternatives?? | ||
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i'd like to, but i don't think there's enough time. i think zeks is more likely to be red anyway. | ||
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On December 16 2010 13:33 LSB wrote: 3 KP + 1 SK = 4 Amber[Light]=1 Brownbear=1 Pandain=2 d3_crescentia=1 1+1+2+1=5 Explain Hesmyrr had claimed he took a hit before he was swapped out by Pandain. If that is true (which it seems like it must be true, since Hesmyrr(pandain) was blue and therefore presumably would not lie about taking a hit), then the hits do add up and d3 must have taken the hit. | ||
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He could be Mewtwo, or he could be a mafia hit by mewtwo and was protected by a medic (the latter is unlikely, i know) | ||
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The obvious lynch here is Shockeyy, I think it's possible that the people voting on DC without reasons are trying to split the town. As for d3: if you want to hunt scum for us, here are my suggestions: tube deconduo Brocket | ||
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On December 18 2010 10:41 LSB wrote: All right, got it. Finalized Plan. Day 3: Lynch DCXLIV Night 3: D3 attacks ShoCkeyy. ShoCkeyy self protects A few attempts could happen. Mafia could stack against ShoCkeyy, or Mafia could roleblock D3. D3 will receive a notification if he is roleblocked. Anyone else up for this? no because the plan has so many ways of being fucked with, as you readily admit. i would rather lynch Shockeyy or d3 and just figure out who is lying. | ||
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On December 20 2010 05:11 LSB wrote: Analysis of dinmsab. He hasn't helped town at all. I went through his posts and haven't found anything worth mentioning. Maybe this. All right, now to look at how he played other games Incognito's TL Mafia XVI Townie. He makes 3 worthless posts. + Show Spoiler + On January 22 2010 02:14 dinmsab wrote: Yeah, you just sealed your fate right there. On January 23 2010 00:04 dinmsab wrote: Almost anything would get you lynched in this game, except for when your actually asking for it.  On January 25 2010 22:47 dinmsab wrote: Clues help indeed, just don't trust them 100% for certain. Ignoring clues would be a total waste imo. Red Army Mafia Spam, but I don’t know his alignment, so any read is probably usless [GG] Team Liquid Mafia – Resurrection Mafia Leader. Well he actually was active this game. And played good townie who listens to the town circle by supporting Ace. + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2008 06:50 dinmsab wrote: I was going to vote for Folca, but you Hyperbola changed my mind. Its true Folca is a jerk, but we cant just go kill off random townies if we're planning to win this. Good work Hyperbola. Spammny Vote reasons On December 16 2008 07:57 dinmsab wrote: imo, at this rate mafia could be acting as either one of those... and i believe that blues are more likely to stay in the shadows and avoid the spotlight rather than mafia. Killing off inactive players is indeed a good move when you dont have any clues on what to do next, but that doesnt mean your going to get a guaranteed mafia kill. Right people should just do whatever Ace tells them too since he's the one making the most sense, but that doesnt mean we can trust him completely with a list of blues. Supports Ace, a townie, and his circle On December 17 2008 06:47 dinmsab wrote: Well, it cant be helped.. we were on a very good start when we got ver lynched with the help of ace, and now suddenly out of nowhere 2 DTs just got owned. Its just natural that people will shift their blame to someone.. and since Ace did most of the decision making and he was working with an "anonymous" dt, not to mention he is also likely to be with contact with most of the blues at this moment, people would shift their attention to him. Although i'd say we put our suspicions of ace on hold, and first continue to deal with the list that the dt gave us. Continues to support ace On December 18 2008 19:23 dinmsab wrote: Clear out the list first, like ace said its a guaranteed mafia hit. Then we can move on with the other suspects. Btw, assuming ace isnt lying to us, and indeed another medic appeared... then wouldnt it be wise if we kill atkzerg first? I dont think that townie claiming to be a medic would have any reason to lie about his position, unless he is a bored townie and just wants to see another medic dead. Follows Ace Conclusion: Probably town: As mafia he put some effort into his posts. I don't know. It seems to me that behavior is dependent on the context of the game, and it's hard to draw conclusions from just a couple games. I'm actually more suspicious of BrownBear. I know that he tends to be a lot more active and participatory as town. | ||
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On December 20 2010 03:08 DCLXVI wrote: Wait what????? You go from your half assed lie of: "I checked 2 reds the first two nights then sat on them instead of doing what a real dt would do and reveal them day 3" To this? I really wish I could've posted that before you wriggled out of that lie, but I was too late. Now you are trying to shift the lynch off of you and try to make me agree with it by calling me townie? Your story now is that you checked two useless players and got roleblocked so you cannot provide us with any information? Also you plan was to fish for our roles? To see if there were any more chanseys/dt's you needed to kill? Frankly I don't buy this story either. Town do the right thing and lynch this lying scum. I don't know. I kind of agree with deconduo (who has popped out of the woodwork here) that Node's claim doesn't make much since from a mafia perspective. They are in a strong position right now and don't need to risk much, unless they're going for style. I dunno Node's meta though so IDK if he's the kind of player that does those sort of things. What you say also makes sense though. Node's story is VERY convenient. Remember Pandain's "checks" from the Insane mafia game where he lied about very convenient checks? I get the same vibe from the checks Node says he made. Also did Node claim he was roleblocked before this post? If I was roleblocked I'd probably claim ASAP, since it gives the town information. I'm undecided on this as of yet but either way Node lying doesn't help his case here. I think we also need to look at inactives - BrownBear, Oceanic, chaoser, are names that have been bugging me. | ||
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On December 21 2010 13:47 d3_crescentia wrote: lawlawlawlawlawlawl I'm killing infundibulum tonite what did i ever do to you? | ||
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I would hate to see Mewtwo go 0% success rate on hitting scum. | ||
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On December 21 2010 15:25 LSB wrote: I still think Infun, GGQ, and KtheZ should be modkilled... At least infun and GGQ should be mafia... Dunno what to think about KtheZ Uh, what? It isn't up to you. | ||
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