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Not to just to jump in and FOS someone randomly, but what do people think of deconduo? After looking through his last few posts (edit he only posted 10 times in the thread :/) I see that he posts even worse than I did in the first few days. Im too lazy to quote all his posts but take a look yourself:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=deconduo
what his posts say according to me
1 /in
2 he agree with what insanious wrote for the most part
3 question
4 lurkers are bad
5 gabe is too confrontational to be mafia (contradicts post #2 with the pandain vs docH bit)
6 lol post
7 Got no time, suspicious of one bandwagon, so he will join the other
8 responds to kavdragon about post 7, restates post 7
9 Time to vote Gabe because he is scummy
10 jumps into the thread, underlines analytical post by insanious that FoS DCLXVI
I don't know how he has managed to make it this far through the game without being called out. A few people I saw briefly had (kav, LSB i think) but this is ridiculous. I may have posted bad early in the game, but if this isn't flat out the scummiest person right now then lynch me instead. Shockeyy has been making himself out to be scum for a while, d3 may be mewtwo, I may suck at contributing, but this? If you can convince me that d3 is mewtwo and why we should kill mewtwo now I'll stay voting d3, but people need to look at deconduo. At least have him as one of the two targets for tomorrow if you all think that it is too late to lynch him now. I don't want to fracture the towns voting power by introducing another target, but I am sure deconduo is scum
sorry for being so argumentative lately, I just like to argue too much I guess. More content does not mean arguing I see.
and yeah math says we need double lynch tomorrow and a hit tonight, voting
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Umm, I am a bit confused brocket. How did you go from this post
On December 16 2010 16:39 Brocket wrote:
Satisfactory analyses, well done gentlemen.
DCLXVI even bought attention to himself about the two voters against him being eliminated via analysing insanious. So it's a sign of honesty but the fact is still suss. I'm still not trusting Gabe because of kenpachi+ jcarl.
d3 hasn't been very consistent, that much is true. Why is it that townies seem to crumble when they are accused, you've got nothing to hide, don't make things worse by blurting out names and getting unnecessarily offended by accusation.
To this:
On December 17 2010 15:57 Brocket wrote:
So I heard you like double lynching.
Yeh it's going to happen. Just figure out who is suss again?
I'm a bit uneasy about DC, sure he's been helpful but he had 2 accusers that got eliminated. Gabe also has had his accusers lynched (apart from me) and escaped the noose twice.
There was LSB who said mafia may set GAbe up. But really not likely. Maybe they can make it more obvious that they're trying hard to set up gabe if they kill me night 2. Then maybe gabe is townie after all via LSB's logic. Do you really buy that?
If I am reading this right you say in the first post I look a little more innocent and gabe looks guilty, then you completely flip and say the opposite? Do you have reasons for doing so?
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Wow, there was certainly quite a bit of action while I was away. Directed at me I see Brocket starting a bandwagon with kitaman/node/chaoser buying into it with reasons given. Then again, Brocket's reasoning was "he is suss", so I guess they can just throw their votes on too. LSB then tries to get a plan together to lynch me based on that terrible fake role claim by shockeyy (yeah it is easier for me to see now but what were you guys thinking? Last minute "don't lynch me Im a doc" is so overused.) LSB posted that the brocketwagon could've been a mafia ploy to pull people off shockeyy, and kitaman/node/chaoser have been pretty inactive and no opinions for a while. My guess is that if LSB is right about that, then brocket is red along with 1-2 of the K/N/C crew. Hopefully node will flip red and this will prove likely, but we need to wait for Doc to update.
LSB's plan seems hasty and bloodthirsty, and I for one am not a fan of it. Still, he is probably going to die tonight so I won't bother to much about it since it didn't attract much attention.
So if I were to predict the people to die tonight, I would guess LSB, Brocket, Insanious, and someone else who has suspected me, since that is all that ever happens at night. Seriously, everyone points fingers at me then dies at night >_>. When the dust settles we will probably have about 3 active townies +d3 to line up the lynch targets for tomorrow (if they are still alive): Me, deconduo, brocket, d3???, 10 lurkers...
@ Gabriel - I'm not so sure of LSB calling you mostly cleared, since your posting habits have changed so much over the game. You went from being aggressive and having options to ...lurker? I can't recall you having an opinion on anything since you were a lynch target. What happened?
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On December 19 2010 13:19 Node wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2010 12:27 LSB wrote:
There goes the Brocket Idea...
It looks like everyone who voted for DCXLIV (except for Node) were killed.
DT, can you claim? Are you sure that's wise, seeing as all of the medics are presumably dead?
how did you survive? I thought I ordered all of the opposition to be killed. Seems like I have to remind a few people of their duties...
But seriously, could the mafia make it any more clear that they want me dead? Killing everyone who said a word against me. At least LSB smartened up and defended me, less fortunate were the people who voted for me. I find node suspicious just because he was the only one to survive, but that is certainly not enough to lynch someone for.
What is our plan for today? Are we going to lynch the lurker scum like gabriel seems to want? Dinmsab/brownbear/oceanic/deconduo/GGQ/ and less so (eiii/chaoser/kthez) are the really inactive players as far as I see, and I would not be surprised to see 3 or 4 mafia amongst them. How are we going to go about determining who to lynch? Gabe seems to think that dinmsab is certain scum, I think deconduo is, so what are other people's opinions on the rest? Can we afford to gamble on lynching them, or at least one that sticks out as particularly scummy? If not which active player can we afford to lynch? I am concerned that if we lynch too many active players the mafia will just be able to take over the lynch due to inactive townies. I favor either a plan that lynches two inactives or an active we are sure about and an inactive, unless we get more input from the inactives. I really don't think we can count on every single vote from the inactives as we lost a few last lynch and the holidays are kicking in.
So can anyone bring a strong case against any of the inactives to lynch? So far nominated are
dinmsab - Gabriel
Deconduo- DCLXVI
Let me think over whether or not roleclaiming now is a good idea.
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On December 19 2010 14:56 Node wrote:
All right, I'm going to go ahead and claim. It'll be the death of me, but hopefully town won't waste it.
I am Alakazam.
Night 1 I checked Eiii. Night 2 I checked DCLXVI. Both came up Team Rocket. Night 3 I was roleblocked. Note that this means mafia targeted everyone voting DCL in some way, and they had 2 roleblockers. I can't see them targeting me with a roleblock unless they thought I was on to something -- thus I think DCL is TR and not Raichu.
Do what you will. My cards are on the table.
That is a lie, you must be mafia
I am an electrode so there is no Raichu/miller doubt. You are flat out lying and trying to finish up killing me. I suppose you chose Eiii for his overall scummyness so people would believe you better, but I don't know why you persist in trying to kill me. Also I don't know why anyone would buy your story of being roleblocked last night. You have not stood out at all as a possible blue to me and I don't see why the mafia would roleblock you. I highly doubt that the mafia has 2 roleblockers leaving only 3 regular scum, further incriminating you. Town please lynch this fake claimed DT and please let there be a real DT out there still.
I conclude that Node is scum and Eiii is townie
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One was on shockeyy, on one someone I suspect. I trust you realize why I shouldn't reveal the second bomb
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I don't think I want the mafia to know that. That leaves them free to kill me tonight/todays lynch if they know it is not on one of them
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Night 1 - place on gabriel
Night 2 place on shockeyy
night 3 move from gabriel to player y
as you may have noticed I didn't participate much in the shockeyy bandwagon because I had that covered, but...
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On December 19 2010 15:45 Gabriel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2010 15:40 DCLXVI wrote:
Night 1 - place on gabriel
Night 2 place on shockeyy
night 3 move from gabriel to player y
as you may have noticed I didn't participate much in the shockeyy bandwagon because I had that covered, but... Wait. You had a bomb on shockeyy and me when shockeyy died. Why didnt you redirect the lynch on you at that stage? You could have roleclaimed at that time to clean up shockeyy and me protecting the SK that was helping the town. Never thought of it?
I wasn't around to see the last minute bandwagon on me, so that possibility never occurred to me. Also was much less suspicious of you then than the first night and me hitting a townie would be devastating.
I just ran up the numbers on LSB's plan and it doesn't look good. If I did the math correctly here are our chances
remaining players: 8 - 5 - 1
lynch node and I 7 - 4 - 1
bomb on Town 6 - 4 - 1 ---- on mafia 7 - 3 - 1
Sk hit town 3 - 4 - 1 ---- hit M 4 - 3 - 1 hit T- 4 - 3 - 1 hit M - 5 - 2 - 1
If I miss with my bomb we are pretty much screwed. Even if I hit, if SK misses then we will still be in a really tight spot with the mafia having 2 kp.
Let me know if I miscalculated
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ugh I spent all that time using spaces to align the numbers and this happens. need a <pre> tag...
if you don't understand just ask
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No, why would I bomb someone I tried to lynch? Also I don't believe my bomb would have any effect on d3 assuming he is the SK.
Also I doubt eiii will check the thread at 2 am randomly, unless he is in some other timezone.
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Also, how did you manage to determine d3 was SK and get him to claim?
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I'd take the rock any day 
So what do the numbers look like if we lynch node+a scummy player vs me and a scummy player. Is there anyway where it is not so likely to go into a lylo situation, or does that all just depend on trusting one of us?
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So if we can hit a really scummy player and node, if either of them flips red then we pretty much win right? Since if the scummy player flips red then d3 shoots eiii or me, and if node flips red we have several more confirmed townies to narrow down the suspect list. 5/3/1 and a good idea of everyones roles would win it for us right?
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And I don't really want to place the towns victory condition in the hands of my bomb if I couldn't even see d3 as SK.
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On December 19 2010 16:37 Gabriel wrote:
I think Node and Dinmsab do the trick for me. Suggestions?
would you mind restating your suspicion on dinmsab? Not to knock on your scum hunting, but this is too important to risk on a hunch. What makes dinmsab stand out?
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On December 20 2010 01:26 Node wrote:
Now that I've seen comments from both of them, allow me to fess up. Know that I am doing this not to save myself, but to keep town from lynching DCLXVI and Eiii. First, understand where I'm coming from.
I am in fact Alakazam.
I lied about who I checked. Yeah yeah, I know, LAL, but hear me out.
Night 1 I checked Insanious. Night 2 I checked Brocket. Night 3 I was roleblocked, and Insanious and Brocket died. Everything I had done up until that point in the game was invalidated, and I had good reason to believe that I would be killed on the following night. (clearly, mafia had an inkling that I'm blue) By lying, I was hoping that a) if they were scum, they would do something stupid or b) they would be forced to roleclaim and give town more clear lynch targets.
I do believe that DCL and Eiii are innocent, now. DCL's frankness regarding his bombs, and the rise of Eiii combined with the lack of other players coming out of nowhere to defend them have me fairly certain that they're town. Think about it: town has figured out on their own that the best lynch would be me and DCL. Two town-aligned players. It would give mafia the win. That's why we've seen nothing in the way of interference so far.
Wait what????? You go from your half assed lie of:
"I checked 2 reds the first two nights then sat on them instead of doing what a real dt would do and reveal them day 3"
To this?
I really wish I could've posted that before you wriggled out of that lie, but I was too late. Now you are trying to shift the lynch off of you and try to make me agree with it by calling me townie? Your story now is that you checked two useless players and got roleblocked so you cannot provide us with any information? Also you plan was to fish for our roles? To see if there were any more chanseys/dt's you needed to kill? Frankly I don't buy this story either. Town do the right thing and lynch this lying scum.
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On December 19 2010 21:47 dinmsab wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2010 16:41 DCLXVI wrote:On December 19 2010 16:37 Gabriel wrote:
I think Node and Dinmsab do the trick for me. Suggestions? would you mind restating your suspicion on dinmsab? Not to knock on your scum hunting, but this is too important to risk on a hunch. What makes dinmsab stand out? Gabe hates me for voting him, that is all there is to it. I've always voted gabe because early on non of the arguments were convincing to me, I was probably the only dude or so actually voting for the dude to get lynched. Despite how much hate he gives me, deep inside I still love gabe and his silly arguments. Gabe for president. <3
Nice to see you say something. We haven't heard from in you in what, a dozen pages? Your defense is "this is just an OMGUS vote". Very convincing. How about elaborating on your play style or his? Just saying "he is scummy" and then voting for him every day is not something I would expect from a townie. Time to pressure you into actually taking a stance on something important.
*Time to vote
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No, if you really are a DT you would not be ok with being lynched. Read LSB's posts on how it will turn out for us if we lynch a blue/green today. We go into a LYLO situation if we mess up the lynches today. Confirming a few greens is not worth lynching a townie at this point, so I cannot believe you were trying to help the town.
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On December 20 2010 04:10 LSB wrote:
Actually, if he's the dt, he knows that he's dead tonight.
I still don't trust DCLXVI.
My point is that it is infinitely better for him to die at mafia kp then town kp if he is town. Saying he is ok with being lynched is just wrong. He is just trying to confirm himself so he survives the lynch now, after his failed plan to get two townies lynched.
And what are you suspicious of now? Was this some elaborate plot where both of us are mafia and this was a method to confirm us? If that is the case then lynch him first, and if I am lying then you can have d3 hit me at night.
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