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On December 04 2010 02:30 Barundar wrote:
Would speeder fit Fishballs role, since he cannot die?
What? When did I say I cannot die? Or who said I cannot die?
On December 04 2010 02:52 Barundar wrote:
It doesn’t really matter. Seems like whether it’s scenario A or scenario B, I’m a sane alignment checker, and Coa’s roleclaim is true (albeit slightly useless).
So it’s only Fishball and Jcarlsoniv who has a potential role claim conflict.
I'm surprised nobody has really been discussing this for the past few hours after I pointed it out.
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On December 04 2010 02:58 orgolove wrote:My last post: (which Fishball still hasn't responded) Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 17:52 orgolove wrote:I really haven't been too active this game at all. Unless what I said hit the mark, the reds really didn't have any other reason to hit me. On November 30 2010 07:03 Coagulation wrote:
Lets get down to business
[##]Vote Fishball
On November 30 2010 07:50 Fishball wrote:On November 30 2010 07:03 Coagulation wrote:
Lets get down to business
[##]Vote Fishball
Why would you vote for me? Wait, why would you not vote for me? [##]Vote Fishball On November 30 2010 07:52 Fishball wrote:Haha, nevermind  Just checked I can't vote for myself. So, [##]Vote RebirthOfLeGenD Look at his responses to Coagulation's first accusation. A townie would probably be incensed that he just "randomly" voted for you and it would've been understandable if he got a bit defensive. But no - despite being voted against for no reason, and as the first vote of the day, he just laughed it off and even made a gesture of voting for himself. Really smells like a red in my view. Also, if Fishball turns red, then we can be pretty sure that the vote nullifier is definitely a red role. Then his first post: Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 00:02 Fishball wrote:On December 03 2010 21:09 Coagulation wrote:
fishball you need to cut the godamn shenanigans and start helping town. No I hate you all, and I'm achieving what I want to achieve so I'm happy with that. ... I for one don't care if people lynch me or not, hence I never gave a crap on Day 1. I would have voted for myself if I could, which I actually tried. Uh huh. A "blue" who's refusing to help the town and doesn't care if you get lynched. You call yourself a townie, in a game where there's more mafia than usual? (in terms of % of total players) Oh, and then he gives us this: Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 00:05 Fishball wrote:On December 03 2010 17:45 orgolove wrote:
Nope. It was a "gimped" veteran role, in that if I'm hit, everyone knows automatically.
Anyway:
1) my first vote against fishball was nullified
2) when I revealed this and kept putting the suspicion on him, I got hit during the night
so, I think it's pretty clear who the red is this game. If you are not Mafia, please re-read your own post after this game. I wish life was that simple. Right, you suddenly become so defensive, immediately after you claim that you don't care if you're lynched or not? And just how clueless can you be, that you missed the day post a.k.a. the most important post of the game? Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 00:24 Fishball wrote:On December 04 2010 00:20 Coagulation wrote:On December 04 2010 00:05 Fishball wrote:On December 03 2010 17:45 orgolove wrote:
Nope. It was a "gimped" veteran role, in that if I'm hit, everyone knows automatically.
Anyway:
1) my first vote against fishball was nullified
2) when I revealed this and kept putting the suspicion on him, I got hit during the night
so, I think it's pretty clear who the red is this game. If you are not Mafia, please re-read your own post after this game. I wish life was that simple. What the hell are you talking about "If your not mafia" Hes been flipped a veteran... Where, I'm blind and busy and I must have missed it again. Please quote for me. I'm just saying that if he is not Mafia, based on what he said to pinpoint me as Mafia, his logic is just too easy - the type of player that can easily be manipulated. All this despite almost half the posts after my post he quoted talking about me being a veteran. Then he goes wild with accusations, first accusing jcarlsoniv, then Barundar, then trying to put up some excuse to get out of the thread and avoid the pressure now that he's sown some seeds of confusion: Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 00:02 Fishball wrote:
2. Remember where I asked Lebron to quote "jcarlsoniv" on his claim since I missed it? I waited till Night to end so I can bring this up. Very damn conveniently, based on the lines DH provided us thus far, I have a spirit inside of me too! My power is activated upon being lynched. Hmm, this sounds very familiar... Unless DH has two roles with "OooOo Spirits inside them", or one of these roles were meant for another hint/clue/lead/guide/pointer/sign/trace, jcarlsoniv is lying.
I also like how jcarlsoniv said "don't lynch me just yet, I would like to see how other people think". I for one don't care if people lynch me or not, hence I never gave a crap on Day 1. I would have voted for myself if I could, which I actually tried. Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 00:20 Fishball wrote:Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies. On December 03 2010 16:16 Barundar wrote:
TL seems to go down randomly. I checked Coa, and got a green result. He didn't have visitors. So Barundar checks Coagulation and he gets a green result. (Alignment) Coagulation checks someone else, and I get the other result. (Role) If there are no more DT's in the game, and DH meant what he said, one of them is lying, or at the very least, the results they provided is false. This is an interesting situation, since Barundar checked our other DT. If Barundar is sane/telling the truth, Coagulation would be Town aligned, but the results I get from his check would be false. Although I'm not entirely sure how a host can "fake" a role check, unless he just gives a totally random role back as a result, which is very not likely. The consequences is just too big, especially in a small game setup like this one. If Barundar is insane/not telling the truth, Coagulation would either be Mafia, and has the ability to plant false messages like mentioned in my previous post, or Barunder is Mafia and trying to frame Coagulation. Then there is the possibility that we misinterpreted DH's hint/clue/lead/guide/pointer/sign/trace entirely and both DT's are legit, but hey... who knows. Now a lot of this doesn't really add up, and there is more I want to talk about, but I have to start getting some work done here so I'll leave you guys with the information above. It is very important that if there is a 3rd DT, he should speak up now. Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 00:31 Fishball wrote:
Anyways people, I'll be gone for a while, so I'll leave the discussion to you guys. And yet he's still here, trying to seem as townie as possible. Here's a hint: Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 14:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:There is no misinformation in mod posts or role PM's. There IS no 3rd DT, and it's highly likely that both of these guys are lying compared to the possibility that Fishball is lying. Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 00:02 Fishball wrote:On December 03 2010 21:09 Coagulation wrote:
fishball you need to cut the godamn shenanigans and start helping town. No I hate you all, and I'm achieving what I want to achieve so I'm happy with that. He is so openly hostile to the town, and he claims that he has a role that activates upon death. The first KP of mafia was wasted, basically letting us free with one lynch. Why not have it be a guy whose death can potentially benefit us, if he's lying? This is ridiculous. It's pretty fucking clear we're dealing with either a mafia or a disillusioned townie who doesn't really feel like participating in the game. He never responds to my second post, instead focusing on my first post immediately after being hit and selectively ignoring anything that pressures him. He tries to deflect accusations to discussion about fake roleclaims, and always leaves a hole to run away with his posts of "oh, I'm busy, so I'll let you guys talk." If you really are a guy with a spirit inside, then we're gonna benefit even more from your lynch. From what the town's gotten from you, you're more beneficial to us lynched than alive.
I give you four words. R-O-F-L.
If you are Mafia, I'm not going to bother, but if you are town, refer to my previous post. I don't have time for merry-go-round rides.
Hey, lynch me if you must, I'm not going anywhere.
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On December 04 2010 03:06 Coagulation wrote:fishball can you read this Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 01:21 deconduo wrote:On December 04 2010 01:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 04 2010 00:55 LSB wrote:On December 04 2010 00:52 deconduo wrote:
Fishball should say who the person is, so coag can verify. Fishball could easily be faking. Very risky, remeber, they probably checked a doctor. And fishball is very certantly not lieing I'd rather it go, Fishball reveals the role. Coag Decides whether or not to flip who it is. I like this idea. It will let us utilize our information. Well then, coag decides whether or not to flip, but Fishball has to reveal the name first if coag chooses yes.
No I can't read this.
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On December 04 2010 03:00 orgolove wrote:
I mean it's highly UNLIKELY that both are lying compared to just fishball who's in a web of lies.
And I bet he's going to come back any second now despite
On December 04 2010 00:31 Fishball wrote:
Anyways people, I'll be gone for a while, so I'll leave the discussion to you guys. [/QUOTE]
I check the thread periodically in between work, I'm in the office and the computer is right in front. It's not like I have to run 10 miles to reply.
I do this every game. You played with me last game, you know my pattern. All of a sudden you're questioning this? Also, "a while" is a relevant thing. Right now you're trying so hard, its really funny from my perspective.
Hmm, I wonder if Zombie is a Town Aligned role or not
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On December 04 2010 03:07 Coagulation wrote:
can you please release role of the person i checked.
No one else knows who i checked so the information is safe.
I'll have to reread a few pages in 45 mins -1 hour during lunch.
Right now I'm skimming a lot of stuff, so I don't want to make any decisions based on any incomplete information on my part.
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Alright, time for some action.
On December 04 2010 03:42 Coagulation wrote:
im telling you hes gonna be converted to mafia if hes lynched. i was on to him 6 pages back.
@ Coagulation - No, I will not be converted, I will not come back to life, I will die. Let me word it this way. If I get lynched, and I am still alive, feel free to kill me again.
On December 04 2010 03:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
K, Fishball, even if you are town, you are not acting remotely in any way to help town at all. You need to go.
##vote Fishball
@ jcarlsoniv - This cannot get more typical. Out of all reasons, you choose "you're not helping town, you have to die". We've seen this a million times, where Mafia tries to soft play and blend in with their vote, killing an innocent while wasting the Town's lynch. Also, you haven't even replied to the contradiction of your claim to mine at all.
On December 04 2010 03:11 Aeres wrote:
After reading Orgolove's post, I'm inclined to agree that Fishball is definitely acting unusually. Perhaps it's not conclusive evidence yet, but this inconsistency with Jcarlsoniv and Fishball is of too much import to ignore. That, and Fishball's not acting in the interest of town, which is a red flag right there. I'm going to vote for him, until/unless future events cause me to rethink this.
@ Aeres - Think of it. If I weren't in the interest of town, why would I reveal two pieces of crucial information? That I know who Coagulation checked and the role of said player, and pointing out jcarlsoniv's role is contradicting with mine? Why would I want to draw more myself further more into the middle of attention? If I die and flip Mafia, everything I say can be disregarded. Why would I want to put myself in such position and waste my own effort, and get myself killed in the process? Think about it.
With that being said, keep your vote on me.
On December 04 2010 01:32 Barundar wrote:
Noone else has commented on it, but Coagulation confirmed it could be the case:
Me and SouthRawrea (psychic) have the ability to check alignment. We therefore are the 2 with the “third eye”
Coagulation have the ability to check roles. He get his answers from the heavens. Therefore probably the preacher.
It was your post that made me think of this possibility, after I have been mistrusting Coagulation all day.
@ Barundar - Coagulation is NOT the preacher. I am. I will not further reveal my role, but I'm 99.99% sure I am the preacher. I'll admit I'm guilty of not reading much of DH's posts since the game started, in fact, I haven't read much of the thread at all until Day 2 started, due to my little personal experiment (which worked), and slack.
This is one of DH's comment:
On December 03 2010 02:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
im annoyed by how far off everyone is with these hammer clues, damn
Which means everyone so far was off with his clues regarding the Hammer. Now time for my turn.
The Hammer is the person who voted last during a lynch, the person who activated the kill.
This is what DH said:
"A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer "
Basically, it means there are 4 players that have their roles tied with the lynch. Now I have two different understandings regarding this statement.
1. Among these 4 players, some benefits from the hammer, some don't.
2. Among these 4 players, some can be the hammer (as in voting last), some can't. Why do I say that? Because my role description prohibits me from being the hammer, or I will be mod-killed. (Oh I just revealed more of my role!)
I think it's likely #2. It would be hard to benefit if you are lynched and dead. Yes, a player might have certain abilities that occurs upon being lynched, but that doesn't really benefit the player in any way, since he is dead. He can't play anymore. The term "fear" and "love" is also hard to apply in this case.
If it were #2, everything would make sense. Certain players have to be the hammer every time, and some can never be the hammer, like me.
I suggest everyone to closely observe the voting patterns from here on. Even if the town figure who these 4 players are, we'll still need to figure out the alignment from these players.
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Here are my top suspects for now.
1. jcarlsoniv - Instant kill if I were a vigilante.
2. Orgolove - He can very well be a naive Townie, but coming from my perspective, he is trying too hard, way too hard. I also don't like the idea of the Zombie role coming back to life. Let me ask you people something. What do Zombies eat? Brains. Who has Brains? The other players.
Regarding the rest of the players, it's just quite hard and too many to get a read right now. Hell I haven't even been tracking the lurkers.
Barundar/Coagulation - Now regarding the quote "Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies", we don't know if DH means sane/insane, or deliberately lying from the players. Let's assume Barundar and SR (who is dead) are the two men with a third eye, we still can't throw out the fact that we can't put Barundar in the clear just yet. If it is Barundar and Coagulation that has the third eye, same scenario applies. I'm not exactly pointing fingers at anyone here, but certain players can't just ignore certain facts and make a conclusion.
deconduo - I don't know. He claims he is the Axe and have ended the Day early. Everything makes sense, but something just doesn't add up with the Hammer thing. I'll have to think about it more later.
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On December 04 2010 05:04 kingjames01 wrote:
jcarlsoniv has already told us what happens when he dies. Fishball, what do you gain from your lynch?
What does he gain when he dies?
Can you quote that for me please?
Sorry I'm all over the place right now.
Also, just to say it upfront I won't reveal my ability regardless.
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On December 04 2010 03:10 Coagulation wrote:
remember i said my role relies on my ability to run a town circle.
all your doing is shitting all over my efforts.
Have some patience ok?
You checked annul.
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One thing I just noticed after reading the last page.
kingjames or someone, can you help me do a count on the clues regarding each roles. Do they add up to 15? (One per player)
The way I see it, the quote "A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer " is just an extra hint regarding the relationship between certain players and the hammer, on top of the 15 role clues.
This is why I claimed Preacher and Spirit, I think they are the same role.
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On December 04 2010 05:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Fishball, what do you get when you die? What happens? The difference between our claims is that I have told everyone what happens to me, but you have kept all information from the thread. If you truly are town, stop being worthless.
Why would I want to let the Mafia know?
You're worthless.
On December 04 2010 05:42 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 05:39 Fishball wrote:
One thing I just noticed after reading the last page.
kingjames or someone, can you help me do a count on the clues regarding each roles. Do they add up to 15? (One per player)
The way I see it, the quote "A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer " is just an extra hint regarding the relationship between certain players and the hammer, on top of the 15 role clues.
This is why I claimed Preacher and Spirit, I think they are the same role.
This is the list of clues. It doesn't include any of the updated information about who has claimed. It should help in this discussion though. I think the Spirit and the Preacher are separate roles. What does your Role PM indicate? Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 15:35 kingjames01 wrote:
So we know that DrH has given us clues to every role. I'm going to continue the list that deconduo started with the latest clues:
Someone has a spirit inside them waiting to come out. (1)
Ability activated upon death.
Somebody fell in love.
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love. (2, maybe 3)
Lovers
A child is playing in the yard. (4)
Innocent Child
A man with a black hood stands in an alley.
The man in the black hood found his axe. (5)
Mason
Someone just got a pharmacology degree from Liquidia University.
Another student got his Pharmocology degree. (6,7)
Pharmacists/Nerfed Medics
A man begs in the street. (8)
Hobo?
Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies (9,10)
Sane/Insane detective
Somewhere on a wall the words are spraypainted. "Sometimes the day is over before you think"
Sometimes the hammer strikes back and it almost struck evil (11)
Ability to end day early?
Someone got caught speeding in a car. (12)
Speeder?
A guy has brains on his mind but doesn't know why. (13)
Brain Surgeon?
Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia? (14)
Possibly a disease carrier, a la Insane.
A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer (15)
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I'm not sure if this is the same person as number 11, but they both refer to a hammer. If so, then I'm missing a clue.
There are a few roles that I haven't figured out yet. Also, from this list, I don't know which roles are likely to be anti-town. Any thoughts?
As has been previously mentioned in the thread, one of these roles is supposed to be a Vote Nullifier. I don't see that in this list so I've probably missed a clue.
Why did I claim the spirit? Because an ability is activated after the lynch.
Why did I claim preacher? Because my role name is Priest, I can give you that, and I fear the hammer.
The way DH worded his disappointment of wrong interpretations of the Hammer, plus the clue itself, which adds up to more than 15 players, is why I think roles that were mentioned before are mentioned again in this line:
"A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer "
If what jcarlsoniv claims his abilities are true, the spirit would make more sense on his role than mine, but we can only find out after he is lynched. Still, this was not a random, unthoughtful claim from me.
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On December 04 2010 06:00 Coagulation wrote:
Hes the town lover.
When we lynch him he will be converted to mafia
iv been trying to say this forever.
of course he wont admit it.
Excuse my language, but did you not fucking read?
On December 04 2010 05:17 Fishball wrote:
@ Coagulation - No, I will not be converted, I will not come back to life, I will die. Let me word it this way. If I get lynched, and I am still alive, feel free to kill me again.
The moment I remain alive after a lynch, everyone in the world would know I'm lying.
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On December 04 2010 06:12 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +Alright, time for some action.
On December 04 2010 03:42 Coagulation wrote:
im telling you hes gonna be converted to mafia if hes lynched. i was on to him 6 pages back.
@ Coagulation - No, I will not be converted, I will not come back to life, I will die. Let me word it this way. If I get lynched, and I am still alive, feel free to kill me again. Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 00:02 Fishball wrote:On December 03 2010 21:09 Coagulation wrote:
fishball you need to cut the godamn shenanigans and start helping town. But remember I said I have two things to announce? Since more people have spoken up, here it is. 2. Remember where I asked Lebron to quote "jcarlsoniv" on his claim since I missed it? I waited till Night to end so I can bring this up. Very damn conveniently, based on the lines DH provided us thus far, I have a spirit inside of me too! My power is activated upon being lynched. Hmm, this sounds very familiar... Unless DH has two roles with "OooOo Spirits inside them", or one of these roles were meant for another hint/clue/lead/guide/pointer/sign/trace, jcarlsoniv is lying. I also like how jcarlsoniv said "don't lynch me just yet, I would like to see how other people think". I for one don't care if people lynch me or not, hence I never gave a crap on Day 1. I would have voted for myself if I could, which I actually tried. how the fuck are you gonna "die" AND "activate your powers" at same time. jesus christ you are doing a piss poor job of making a LICK OF SENSE this game.
You suck.
Think, Mad Hatter.
No, I'm not a Mad Hatter.
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On December 04 2010 06:10 LSB wrote:Now, onto Fishball Mafia has been helping out Fishball -2 Vote Corruptions -1 Hit on Orgolove. This all could be WIFORM, however, in the game I played as mafia, I took out people who slightly suspected me. Fishballs Role-Fishball is not a critical town role such as Doctor or DT. -Fishball Claimed Preacher and has some sort of bonus ‘spirit’ after a lynch. -An alternative theory is that Fishball is a ‘town lover’ and is converted to mafia after the lynch. One key thing we have to note is that Fishball is trying not to get lynched. That means that possibly getting lynched will weaken his role. I’m inclined to believe that he can’t survive the lynch The Hammer Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 06:00 Fishball wrote:
The way DH worded his disappointment of wrong interpretations of the Hammer, plus the clue itself, which adds up to more than 15 players, is why I think roles that were mentioned before are mentioned again in this line:
"A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer "
Fishball knows something about the Hammer that we all don’t. I have two guesses on what the Hammer is. Either it is the Lynch, and Fishball gets a bonus if we lynch mafia. Or the Hammer is a person who’s role is tied to fishballs. If someone wants to confirm what Fishball is leading us on with, as per the hammer, that would be great. The hammer leands credibility to Fishball’s role as I believe he has deduced something that I did not think of and that pertains to his role. Final Verdict: Fishball is probably not lying about his role. Since I believe the mafia roles are Lover, Vote Corrupter, and Bus Driver. I’m going to say that Fishball is probably town.
What, me trying not to get lynched? I never told you guys to back off your votes did you? I even told Aeres to keep his vote.
As I mentioned before, I don't really care if I get lynched or not.
And for the 3rd time, for the love of god. If I'm still alive after a lynch, just kill me. Once I'm dead, I'm dead.
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On December 04 2010 06:16 Coagulation wrote:
So wich is it
You get lynched and you DIE?
Or you get lynched and your power activates?
How about a combination of everything? Just like the Mad Hatter example I said?
I get lynched, I die, my upon being lynch ability activates.
OHH MAFIA IS SOOO HARD.
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On December 04 2010 06:26 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 06:23 Barundar wrote:On December 04 2010 06:16 Fishball wrote:On December 04 2010 06:10 LSB wrote:Now, onto Fishball Mafia has been helping out Fishball -2 Vote Corruptions -1 Hit on Orgolove. This all could be WIFORM, however, in the game I played as mafia, I took out people who slightly suspected me. Fishballs Role-Fishball is not a critical town role such as Doctor or DT. -Fishball Claimed Preacher and has some sort of bonus ‘spirit’ after a lynch. -An alternative theory is that Fishball is a ‘town lover’ and is converted to mafia after the lynch. One key thing we have to note is that Fishball is trying not to get lynched. That means that possibly getting lynched will weaken his role. I’m inclined to believe that he can’t survive the lynch The Hammer On December 04 2010 06:00 Fishball wrote:
The way DH worded his disappointment of wrong interpretations of the Hammer, plus the clue itself, which adds up to more than 15 players, is why I think roles that were mentioned before are mentioned again in this line:
"A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer "
Fishball knows something about the Hammer that we all don’t. I have two guesses on what the Hammer is. Either it is the Lynch, and Fishball gets a bonus if we lynch mafia. Or the Hammer is a person who’s role is tied to fishballs. If someone wants to confirm what Fishball is leading us on with, as per the hammer, that would be great. The hammer leands credibility to Fishball’s role as I believe he has deduced something that I did not think of and that pertains to his role. Final Verdict: Fishball is probably not lying about his role. Since I believe the mafia roles are Lover, Vote Corrupter, and Bus Driver. I’m going to say that Fishball is probably town. What, me trying not to get lynched? I never told you guys to back off your votes did you? I even told Aeres to keep his vote. As I mentioned before, I don't really care if I get lynched or not. And for the 3rd time, for the love of god. If I'm still alive after a lynch, just kill me. Once I'm dead, I'm dead. 1. What makes you think the hammer isn't red. We know very little of it, and the "axe" claimed pretty early. 2. Your argument buys into his guesses on blue roles. DrH's clues have notoriusly been hard to read, and are way too easy to hide behind. Fishnut has made absolutely no contribution in the thread, has been hiding information, and has overall just been dragging the town down. We can't rely on guesses against that. Hey, hey... Fishnut isn't appropriate... If you're going to be insulting, you have to do it with style, flair, class and subtlety... Anyway, if you feel so strongly against Fishball, why did you remove your vote? That doesn't really make sense. This is the current vote tally: Fishball (6) orgolove, kingjames01, Aeres, jcarlsoniv, annul, Barundar, kingjames01, Coagulation, annul, (Aeres in spirit), aidnai ~OpZ~ (1) Coagulation, annul, kingjames01, Aeres Fishball, only 2 more votes and this whole issue is settled. You're going to get lynched if you don't try harder to save yourself.
Read my previous posts. I'm not trying to save myself.
I don't care if I get lynched at all.
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On December 04 2010 06:23 Barundar wrote:
1. What makes you think the hammer isn't red. We know very little of it, and the "axe" claimed pretty early.
Fuck me.
Do you guys even read the OP?
"The vote that ends the day is called "the hammer"."
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On December 04 2010 06:48 Barundar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 06:32 Fishball wrote:On December 04 2010 06:23 Barundar wrote:
1. What makes you think the hammer isn't red. We know very little of it, and the "axe" claimed pretty early.
Fuck me. Do you guys even read the OP? "The vote that ends the day is called "the hammer"." Funny. + Show Spoiler +Basically, it means there are 4 players that have their roles tied with the lynch. Now I have two different understandings regarding this statement.
1. Among these 4 players, some benefits from the hammer, some don't.
2. Among these 4 players, some can be the hammer (as in voting last), some can't. Why do I say that? Because my role description prohibits me from being the hammer, or I will be mod-killed. (Oh I just revealed more of my role!)
I think it's likely #2. It would be hard to benefit if you are lynched and dead. Yes, a player might have certain abilities that occurs upon being lynched, but that doesn't really benefit the player in any way, since he is dead. He can't play anymore. The term "fear" and "love" is also hard to apply in this case.
If it were #2, everything would make sense. Certain players have to be the hammer every time, and some can never be the hammer, like me.
I suggest everyone to closely observe the voting patterns from here on. Even if the town figure who these 4 players are, we'll still need to figure out the alignment from these players. Show nested quote + Even if the town figure who these 4 players are, we'll still need to figure out the alignment from these players
So what exactly is your question? Are you just repeating what I said?
Anyone could be the Hammer. The last vote to get a person lynched, which ends the day, is the Hammer.
What???
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The only information I'm withholding is my actual role.
I only speculated and pointed out that 4 players can or cannot be the Hammer. I can't be the Hammer. Anyone who ends the day is the Hammer.
How confusing is this?
On December 04 2010 06:52 Barundar wrote:
If you want to live you need to reveal more of your role.
Is this a threat?
lol, be my guest.
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On December 04 2010 07:10 Barundar wrote:Sorry, I'm acting like an idiot - should really go get drunk instead. Here is the post I was refering to regarding red hammer: Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 02:56 deconduo wrote:On December 03 2010 02:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
One strikes with the hammer the other with an axe.
One strikes back, the other strikes early
im annoyed by how far off everyone is with these hammer clues, damn I'm the axe. So someone else is the hammer. I made up my mind when you claimed Orgo to be scum.
Claim =/= Suspect.
I can only Claim what I know for sure.
You really need to get your wording straight.
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On December 04 2010 07:44 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 07:39 annul wrote:
is fish at 7 or 8?
i.e., is it over, or is there still a chance to debate this lynch? Actually, it's only 7. This is the current vote tally: Fishball (7) orgolove, kingjames01, Aeres, jcarlsoniv, annul, Barundar, kingjames01, Coagulation, annul, (Aeres in spirit), aidnai, Barundar ~OpZ~ (1) Coagulation, annul, kingjames01, Aeres I think we're just waiting for someone to condemn Fishball now. If you have more things to say in his defense, you better hurry.
I don't need any condemnation, as my death would tell a lot.
The points I want to emphasize is, the 4 players related to the hammer (3 after my death).
I've talked to DH, and he said this game was based on experiments for vote manipulation.
So yeah, watch the voting patterns.
Bonus note, my death doesn't exactly mean a good thing for Town.
It's really a flip of a coin.
You'll all see, soon enough 
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