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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
On December 03 2010 13:32 LSB wrote: Coag, Barudar, can you give me little seemingly unimportant details about your role? Like how do you go about doing things? Do you follow someone? Do you have special glasses? Do yo go through someones stuff and look for things? I have a radar gun.... | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
so does anyone have any info on blue role night actions.... | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On December 03 2010 16:50 Barundar wrote: Happy BD Coa. Who did you check? im not giving the mafia any info yet. someone needs to come forward tho. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
##Vote: Fishball | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On December 03 2010 17:02 Barundar wrote: How can telling your target be of help to the mafia? You don't have the result. It’s just interesting for the rest of the town to know, if you picked a target to confirm your sanity or to scumhunt, and who it was. because it will allow mafia to fake claim the info if they know who i targeted for rolecheck | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
Also, orgolove, we know you're a vet because you survived the night. Does being a zombie give you any extra powers? Also, why are you voting for Fishball? | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
I suggested that he might have been forced to act the way he was due to his assigned role but he deflected that with some comments about being crazy. There was also the incident about the vote on Fishball being nullified. I think these statements make Fishball suspicious but not necessarily scum. We should put some pressure on him so that he is forced to explain his behaviour. Also, I'm very interested to see what your DT check shows. At the moment, Barundar has said that he checked you, and "got a green result." Barundar: can you clarify your statement about Coagulation? Do you mean that Coagulation's role is Green or that your check came back positive for the Town? | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
Anyway: 1) my first vote against fishball was nullified 2) when I revealed this and kept putting the suspicion on him, I got hit during the night so, I think it's pretty clear who the red is this game. | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On December 03 2010 17:45 orgolove wrote: Nope. It was a "gimped" veteran role, in that if I'm hit, everyone knows automatically. Anyway: 1) my first vote against fishball was nullified 2) when I revealed this and kept putting the suspicion on him, I got hit during the night so, I think it's pretty clear who the red is this game. Okay, I think that we should push Fishball into giving us a better defense. The way that he's been dodging the minimal pressure that we've put on him is not satisfactory. Until Coagulation's DT check is revealed, my vote is going on Fishball. ##Vote Fishball. | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
On November 30 2010 07:03 Coagulation wrote: Lets get down to business [##]Vote Fishball On November 30 2010 07:50 Fishball wrote: Why would you vote for me? Wait, why would you not vote for me? [##]Vote Fishball On November 30 2010 07:52 Fishball wrote: Haha, nevermind  Just checked I can't vote for myself. So, [##]Vote RebirthOfLeGenD Look at his responses to Coagulation's first accusation. A townie would probably be incensed that he just "randomly" voted for you and it would've been understandable if he got a bit defensive. But no - despite being voted against for no reason, and as the first vote of the day, he just laughed it off and even made a gesture of voting for himself. Really smells like a red in my view. Also, if Fishball turns red, then we can be pretty sure that the vote nullifier is definitely a red role. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
Barundar: can you clarify your statement about Coagulation? Do you mean that Coagulation's role is Green or that your check came back positive for the Town? Both. Green and town. I would rather not have to quote the PM out of my fear of gods. Also I got pharma protected last night. You guys are teh best <3. I didn't eat my pills though, so you can protect someone else next night. | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On December 03 2010 17:52 Barundar wrote: Both. Green and town. I would rather not have to quote the PM out of my fear of gods. Also I got pharma protected last night. You guys are teh best <3. I didn't eat my pills though, so you can protect someone else next night. Ah! So there are pills and not someone following you around trying to protect you. Yeah, I think it's worth remembering also, that the mafia targetted orgolove and left you and Coagulation alone. So are you allowed to keep your pill then? If so, then that's one less player the pharmacists will have to keep safe tonight. We'll have to see how the day goes and what else is revealed before we make more plans but I have a few ideas. | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
 Apparently mafia only has 1 kp (which they wasted on a vet night one), unless our pharmacists actually stopped a hit. Our night-claiming DT's are both alive and it seems that barundar is the sane one... I'm going back over orgolove's posts to try to see why he might have been hit... ideas so far: - orgolove was going after fishball, so either mafia is trying to frame fishball (again) or save fishball (again). Either way, we will unfortunately need to discuss how to deal with fishball. He obviously will not respond to pressure, and I'm inclined to think he won't contribute much to town either. The goal of lynching is obviously killing scum, not apathetic or unhelpful (or 'crazy') townies, but when there's no way to tell them apart... i honestly wish fishball wasn't playing this way. It's simply impossible to make a read  - they hit orgolove for a 'sure' hit, and possibly to avoid other night roles (trackers/watchers etc.)... no reason to expect pharmacist protection. Too bad for them he's a vet lol. If this is the case, then his - they had some reason to believe orgolove's role was dangerous to them. Of these three possibilities, I think the first is most likely. Here's fishball's posts since my last mini-analysis of him. + Show Spoiler + On December 01 2010 04:53 Fishball wrote: Huh? Coag is still on the list. On December 01 2010 04:59 Fishball wrote: Nevermind, I missed your first post above. On December 01 2010 15:09 Fishball wrote: lol, that's not how I play, more like how I choose to play. I'm currently trying to get gold on GT5 B-6 His response to my pressure was to completely ignore it, then blow off the defense ~opz~ offered for him. On December 01 2010 15:27 Fishball wrote: I like how the OP says there are no clues, but then there are "hints". On December 01 2010 15:34 Fishball wrote: I personally think this stuff should be clarified in the beginning. On December 01 2010 15:50 Fishball wrote: I know the difference between the two (unless you think others are retarded), and that is not my point. Sure, a host can do whatever he wants; That's why I said "I personally think". On December 02 2010 02:35 Fishball wrote: I wanted to vote for annul, and so I did. ##Unvote RebirthOfLeGenD ##Vote: annul On December 02 2010 02:43 Fishball wrote: I did have one other explanation: I wanted to. La la la la La~ On December 02 2010 03:06 Fishball wrote: Totally dude. We should just kill them all. The world would be a better place. On December 02 2010 04:20 Fishball wrote: Now I'm starting to think we should lynch SouthRawrea On December 02 2010 05:25 Fishball wrote: Because I'm a ball, and I roll. You cannot stop the ball. I'll just roll over you. On December 02 2010 05:29 Fishball wrote: One of the reasons I want to lynch Annul: He can't be this stupid. Which means he has a different agenda. On December 02 2010 06:19 Fishball wrote: I don't want to get lynched. NOOOooo... Hey, experimental game, change of ways for me to play the game. Seeing how everyone reacts and how they read "my play" is an interesting study. On December 02 2010 07:15 Fishball wrote: Well I'm a lover. I love many things. I'm a merry person. On December 02 2010 08:36 Fishball wrote: Three Mafia in the game. My picks for the moment! - annul - SouthRawrea - ????? On December 02 2010 23:25 Fishball wrote: Have you ever thought if he is Mafia, he can rightfully end the vote early every other cycle, when he deems so, without "drawing suspicion". Just throwing it out there and stirring it up. This quote is significant because it is the only post i was able to find in which Fishball offered an idea that was relevant to the game. Unfortunately, his idea is that deconduo's axe role could be red, which would OBVIOUSLY be OP for mafia...basically, they would decide the lynch every other day. On December 02 2010 23:56 Fishball wrote: I like overpowered roles. Don't you like overpowered roles? I asked for Rambo with 10 KP and immune to everything, but DH said that role was stupid. I died a little inside. On December 03 2010 01:43 Fishball wrote: Yes I'm magical. In my little magical world, I sit in an office most of the time and "work". Wait. What roleclaim? Oh you mean the comments I had for deconduo's roleclaim? Scare me? Why so scared? I no scared! On December 03 2010 02:19 Fishball wrote: I refuse to believe that you do not think I'm crazy. On December 03 2010 13:09 Fishball wrote: Come fourth people, and tell us what you found! On December 03 2010 13:10 Fishball wrote: God damn typo. Forth* After more people speak up, I want to bring up two things. I believe most of these speak for themselves, but I did comment on a couple stand-outs. For those of you unable to wade through all that, i offer the tl;dr version below. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/7804/53288700.jpg) It occurred to me that since there are lovers in this game, fishball could be the town oriented lover. If we lynch him, we may get a mafia. Generally these roles are forbidden from roleclaiming or trying for a strategic modkill, so this role might help explain fishball's behavior. I'm not convinced on this idea though because of this post... On December 02 2010 06:19 Fishball wrote: I don't want to get lynched. NOOOooo... Hey, experimental game, change of ways for me to play the game. Seeing how everyone reacts and how they read "my play" is an interesting study. I'd love to hear any other thoughts on this, especially from fishball. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
This quote is significant because it is the only post i was able to find in which Fishball offered an idea that was relevant to the game. Unfortunately, his idea is that deconduo's axe role could be red, which would OBVIOUSLY be OP for mafia...basically, they would decide the lynch every other day. http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Executioner The Executioner may be either town or mafia, but is traditionally a mafia role. Fishball does look like the best lynch candidate though. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
i think if fishball was really mafia he would be pretty inclined to naturally act pro town to hide himself.. acting like he is now... it isnt scum play.. but at the exact same time... it sure as fuck aint pro town either.. fishball you need to cut the godamn shenanigans and start helping town. | ||
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