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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 10 2010 22:53 GMT
#99
aw hell i'll sign up for this one too!

/in
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 11 2010 01:55 GMT
#123
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we have to vote a character, not a player, right? So if a player is looking to become minister of magic, he has to reveal his character so we can vote for him?
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 11 2010 03:04 GMT
#154
On December 11 2010 11:58 LSB wrote:
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On December 11 2010 11:51 CubEdIn wrote:
On December 11 2010 11:38 LSB wrote:
What will I do as mayor

I will hold a secrete ballot for the first elections. And I will post who voted for who afterwards.

You know, mafia loves to redirect the first election? This will make it harder for them to. This is important for many reasons. Say we're going to lynch inactives. One is mafia, one is town

Mafia: "Yo! Lets bandwagon this guy!"
Town: "We'll their both inactive so I guess I'll vote for the town"
Annul: "You guys lynched a townie. Sheep =P"

Now. Imagine my system

LSB: "Person A and Person B are inactive, please send me pm for who you vote for"
Town sends PMs. Each person has about a 50% chance of dieng. Mafia doesn't have that much influence.
Annul: "This person is mafia! Woot Woot!"


In addition, I will not be able to influence the vote because I will post who voted for who afterwards. So if you see something messed up, you can call me out of it. (Of course, this also means that we got a great way to catch mafia).


Let me tell you the loophole in your plan there, buddy.

Say you're mafia.
People choose two people to lynch, townie and mafia. You rig the "anonymous" votes and lynch the townie, even though most people voted for the mafia. You can never be checked/blamed for that since people agreed to secret votes.

So yeah, that's not gonna be in the best interest of town IMO.

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In addition, I will not be able to influence the vote because I will post who voted for who afterwards. So if you see something messed up, you can call me out of it. (Of course, this also means that we got a great way to catch mafia).

People will be like, "YOU ARE WRONG!" if I try to manipulate votes.


If you are mafia then you'd have 8 votes to manipulate that your mafia mates wouldnt complain about. Given that everyone would be voting their own targets, 8 votes would be enough to swing it onto whoever you want.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 11 2010 14:26 GMT
#219
On December 11 2010 23:15 Jackal58 wrote:
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On December 11 2010 13:47 aidnai wrote:
On December 11 2010 13:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Wtf is a "smurf"?
Other than the obvious little blue cartoon people?


Obvious smurf imo.

My first game. And I'm already making an impression. Scum right there folks.


Are you suggesting that you are scum or the guy accusing you of being a smurf is scum? I'm confused by this post.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 11 2010 14:39 GMT
#221
On December 11 2010 23:38 Jackal58 wrote:
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On December 11 2010 23:26 GGQ wrote:
On December 11 2010 23:15 Jackal58 wrote:
On December 11 2010 13:47 aidnai wrote:
On December 11 2010 13:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Wtf is a "smurf"?
Other than the obvious little blue cartoon people?


Obvious smurf imo.

My first game. And I'm already making an impression. Scum right there folks.


Are you suggesting that you are scum or the guy accusing you of being a smurf is scum? I'm confused by this post.

The latter.


Why is that a scum tell, though?
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 11 2010 14:49 GMT
#223
I'm not sure what advantage we can lever out of the first day Minister for Magic lynch. Do we really think that one of us will be better at finding a Death Eater than all of us? That's why I'm voting for zeks, who has offered to hold an open vote to determine his lynch. I feel like discussing and voting in the open is the best way to get things moving in the right direction.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 11 2010 18:57 GMT
#254
On December 12 2010 03:56 Jackal58 wrote:
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On December 12 2010 03:13 aidnai wrote:
Ok, i'm sorry for bringing up smurfs again. Smurf or not *actually* wasn't the main point of post--it's just strange to me that an honest-to-god newbie has no other question about the game than 'what is a smurf'. He looked suspicious, so I wanted to see how/if he reacted.

Np man. I was invited by one of your members to come and play. So I did. And I may ask more stupid questions. Actually I'll ask 1 now. Wtf is Wifom?


http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Wine_In_Front_Of_Me
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 13 2010 01:04 GMT
#461
On December 13 2010 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
if decon pm'd people he's pretty much not a lynch factor anymore. I'd like the town to focus on either ilovejonn or aidnai. I think most people feel pretty good about either of them I'd just like a final decision to be made so I can tell annul.


If it's between only those two, I'd say lynch aidnai because being new here I can sympathize with another newbie .
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 13 2010 02:50 GMT
#496
On December 13 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:
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Lord Voldemort
Cho Chang
Bellatrix Lestrange
Gilderoy Lockhart
Cedric Diggory
Walden Macnair
Severus Snape
Albus Dumbledore
Poppy Pomfrey
Fenrir Greyback
Sibyl Trelawney
Firenze
Luna Lovegood
Ollivander
Draco Malfoy
Nymphadora Tonks
Ernie Prang
Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington
Mulciber
Parvati Patil
Padma Patil
Moaning Myrtle
Lucius Malfoy
Narcissa Malfoy
Violet
Harry Potter
Colin Creevey
Nicolas Flamel
Hermione Granger
Angelina Johnson
Roger Davies


That leaves someone out.
Possible death eaters
Snape- I believe Snape is the miller, but there is a possibility he's mafia
Gilderoy Lockhart- Erasing people's memories isn't very townish
One of the Patils- This is very very weak, but it could be the generic lovers role. One town, one mafia. Doesn't make much sense storywize.


Snape may be mafia with a town-sided alternate win condition? Perhaps to keep Harry alive or something along those lines? I just can't see any of the other characters as mafia.

Gildetroy Lockhart seems more like a third party to me, as well as Moaning Myrtle (if there's a fool or village idiot in the game, I'd bet it's her). If they win with town then I'm sure they have alternate winning conditions.

We were told to pay attention to the last line of annul's posts. I believe that this time we are supposed to get a hint from:

It is the end of the first year up at Hogwarts. Harry Potter recently vanquished Quirrell, navigated the devil's snare trap, the flying key trap, the potion logic trap, and the chess game trap, to get there. In other words, nothing of great significance happened this year. One wonders what might happen in future years to affect the wizarding world and the loyalties of those within


This suggests that each day in this game is going to be equivalent to a year in Harry Potter world. If Day 1 was Philosopher's Stone then Day 2 will be Chamber of Secrets. This also suggests that character's loyalties may change over time. Characters who were significant in Chamber of Secrets were Gilderoy Lockhard, Moaning Myrtle, Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington, and Colin Creevey. One or more of these characters may have some sort of agenda for next day.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 14 2010 05:56 GMT
#712
The thing is, if LSB counts for a killing power and was going to give himself up to be killed anyways... why not lynch him first and then kill orgolove if LSB turns out to be snape as he's pretty obviously claiming?

Also would like to point out that orgolove is claiming that LSB is just trying to drag down whoever he can before he dies, but orgolove is doing the same thing.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 14 2010 06:06 GMT
#722
On December 14 2010 15:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On December 14 2010 15:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I AM NOT HARRY. I have no idea what the hell is going on however we should NOT lynch LSB. RoL told me he and LSB were suspicious of orgo, I'm still confused about RoL's power however LSB apparently did act according to what RoL said he would. I understand that my powers sound like harry and that's what RoL thought at first but beleive me it's not. My power to block comes through the wands not the horcrux. We should lynch orgolove now and lynch LSB if orgo flips town. I think LSB and I are both telling the truth because the time LSB posted fffffuuuuu in the thread closely corropsonds with the time I received my pm telling me I lost my powers. I pm'd annul making sure I could talk about this and once I got the confirmation I informed someone via pm (who can choose to stay anonymous) and then checked the thread on found LSB's post. I repeat vote Orgolove


Ollivander?


Why do people keep doing this, lol, no one can confirm their character.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 14 2010 17:04 GMT
#771
On December 15 2010 01:57 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 15 2010 01:43 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:51 LSB wrote:
All I'm saying is that RoL checked Orgolove before he died.
I did not do anything to encourage him to go that way.

Once I flip green, kill Orgolove. He probably has some kind of role that causes him to kill the dt that visits him.


This is not true. RoL was checking Opz before he died, not Orgolove.


there is still the possibility that he was trying to push orgolove without role claiming. If that was the case though, I would assume LSB would say so, rather than allow him to get caught up in a lie.

Meapak, did you inform LSB that the "scream" referred to a roleblocking ability against you or was LSB the first one to bring it up. If LSB was the first to mention it, I'm not sure how so many people can be accusing him of making it up, unless LSB was part of the team that caused the scream.


If Meapak was roleblocked, it was most likely by the Death Eaters. If LSB is a Death Eater, he would know what the scream was, which would allow him to claim the roleblock first. If there was one scream from one citizen, then one of the two is lying, and LSB has been by far the scummier.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 15 2010 00:05 GMT
#807
Why all the lies LSB?
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 15 2010 03:59 GMT
#852
About Lynching Orgolove

Greetings, Hogsmeade. There seems to be some confusion regarding exactly what we learned by lynching LSB, so here I am to go through it.

I was one of the people who wanted to lynch LSB, so I'll explain my logic. The way I saw it, there were two possibilities, both of which favoured a lynch on LSB. One the one hand, perhaps he was telling the truth about himself and orgolove. He himself said that he was going to give himself up after betraying a Death Eater so that Hogsmeade would get two Death Eaters for free. So whether we lynched orgolove or LSB first, the end result would be the same and lynching LSB first let us test the truth. On the other hand, perhaps he was lying about everything and was a different Death Eater, who, feeling the cold touch of the town's lynch tightening around his neck, was just trying his best to take a townie down with him first. Either way, lynching LSB before orgolove was a good idea.

The truth wasn't exactly either of those possibilities. He was telling the truth about being Snape, and lying about almost everything else. He was never roleblocked, it was just a cover for him to have an excuse to claim. He had none of the powers he claimed, and as far as he knew he was sided with the Death Eaters and would stay that way. For that, citizens of Hogsmeade, we can be proud. We found and lynched a red. Well done. Unfortunately, it would have been better for him to survive, but not even he knew that.

Now we have to figure out what this means for the future. The obvious way to interpret events is to think that LSB was lying about everything, and this would imply that orgolove is probably a town-sided character that LSB was trying to get killed to help the Death Eaters. However, there is the possibility that LSB figured that since he was Snape, he was likely to switch to town side at some point, and was doing his best to help town already. In that case, orgolove might actually be a Death Eater that LSB was pointing to for us.

There are a couple of reasons why I don't think that's true. First of all, LSB was not acting town-sided even from the beginning of the game. If he thought he was going to end up town, there were good ways that he could try to help us. Lying his ass off about everything was not one of them. Secondly, if he was a Death Eater whose role pm said nothing about being town sided, then calling out orgolove might be stepping on the rule about betraying your role and giving up mafia to the town.

Of course, I don't think orgolove is totally clear, but I don't think he's necessarily a Death Eater either.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 15 2010 04:00 GMT
#853
^ the above post was started before I saw LunarDestiny's more concise version of the same thing...
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 16 2010 22:53 GMT
#969
There's pms allowed in this game. Why are we putting all this info into a thread that Death Eaters can read?
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 23 2010 01:38 GMT
#1497
On December 23 2010 07:07 kitaman27 wrote:
opz vs GGQ was tough to tell, both were relatively inactive, but the hit on GGQ fixed that.


I was playing a little inactive on purpose this game to stay under the DE's radar (not that it actually worked... did you guys figure out who I was or just kill me randomly?). After saving Meapak on night one, I had a confirmed townie to give my thoughts to so I didn't really need to post. Also, I trusted him to keep me from being lynched if it came to that.

I should've stuck with my gut a little more. First night I wanted to bus onto LSB, but I was afraid that he might get hit by something that I didn't want to redirect onto Meapak. Second night I wanted to bus onto DoctorH but I felt it wasn't worth the risk of killing the medic. Would've been epic if I'd managed to kill two in two nights lol.
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