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On December 23 2010 07:09 aidnai wrote:
On the scum side, I thought bussing LSB to 'confirm' orgolove and airbag was pretty smart. I don't think anyone picked up on this analysis-wise at any point. Snape was definitely a liability, and they got two semi-confirmed 'townies' out of the deal. Although to be honest airbag tried to take way too much credit for the lynch when practically the whole town was screaming about LSB's scumminess and orgolove didn't follow up his 'confirmed' status by misdirecting town or doing anything really...
GG everyone, hope to play with you again soon.
Just FYI, I don't think a single townie (Besides ROL, but ROL was working with me) actually accused me of scummyness. It was all mafia day 1. Basically everyone who attacked me was mafia.
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Oh, and sorry for lynching you... no hard feeling right?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
What I'm curious of is why was pandain so insistent of dying. Was his trust of DrH really so strong that he would rather sacrifice himself as a dt rather than vote against him? >.<
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Well Kita I'm sorry for not believing you when you came to me about drh. I'd also like to claim some fame and take some blame from GGQ. I suggested he bus Ken night two however I also told him who to bus ken with so while ken was saved, we killed a townie due to my extremely bad scum radar. Oh and I'd like to publish an excerpt of my first pm I sent to airbag (emphasis added).
Hm well this question makes me think you are DoctorHelvetica because in insane mafia one of your main arguments for why you should have been mayor is that you would have been an independant mayor who wouldn't be swayed by bad townies. But that's beside the point . In my case I would listen a lot to the town because there are a lot of good scumhunters in this game and so for my first lynch it'll be important for me to listen to them.
Anyway I thought I did better in this game than in my previous two games but after the second night I got so lost I didn't trust anyone who PM'd me and became rather worthless in terms of scum hunting. I wish RoL had survived. Did I say this already? Maybe I need to say it again, I wish RoL had survived.
Well nicely done Kita and jcarl. I only wish I had been able to be more helpful.
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On December 23 2010 07:09 aidnai wrote:wow, a come from behind victory! I didn't expect the game to end this way, well done town  Annul, very nice job with the setup and day/night post flavor and general hosting. I'll be looking for more games from you, if you're up for it. As far as balance, town seemed OP at the end with all the DT/roleblock/medic roles, BUT, I still think mafia would have won if Dr.H had not had the misfortune of claiming Poppy to the real Poppy (lololol). To be honest though, I did have several frustrations with the town play this game. 1) it made me mad when after I was lynched, people were like 'oh, draco, that's not such a bad lynch'. I WAS TOWN ORIENTED. 2) Kita gave town a clear 1:1 choice with the double name claim, but then town lynched pandain wtf? 3) inactivity played a huge role in the missed dr.h/pandain lynch. Inactivity almost won the game straight up. Very frustrating to watch ilovejonn come to the thread with enough time to tip the scales, then putz around saying 'i have 20 more minutes' and still never vote  4) not much analysis. Several mafia pretty much outed themselves trying to save DrH (especially cubed and barundar), and the vote lists were pretty damning as well. But the town instead relied on the information roles and town circles and role claims. It worked for this game, but I don't think it's the best way to play. On the scum side, I thought bussing LSB to 'confirm' orgolove and airbag was pretty smart. I don't think anyone picked up on this analysis-wise at any point. Snape was definitely a liability, and they got two semi-confirmed 'townies' out of the deal. Although to be honest airbag tried to take way too much credit for the lynch when practically the whole town was screaming about LSB's scumminess and orgolove didn't follow up his 'confirmed' status by misdirecting town or doing anything really... GG everyone, hope to play with you again soon.
Airbag claimed Poppy to me, and I had DT checked kitaman as the real Poppy. It was just a matter of convincing the town.
1. Awwww *hug*
2.This was killing us. We couldn't understand why the town didn't want to go with it.
3. I'm really pissed at inactivity. It's pretty much unacceptable. Towns keep getting fucked by mod-kills.
4. A lot of analysis was done behind the scenes, and not necessarily in the thread. While it would have been useful to convincing people for certain votes I guess, it was good to try and keep the mafia in the dark about how much we knew,
"Although to be honest airbag tried to take way too much credit for the lynch when practically the whole town was screaming about LSB's scumminess"
That was something I said somewhere in the thread, and it was what definitely convinced me Dr.H was scum. He was trying to win the town over.
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On December 23 2010 07:12 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2010 07:09 aidnai wrote:
On the scum side, I thought bussing LSB to 'confirm' orgolove and airbag was pretty smart. I don't think anyone picked up on this analysis-wise at any point. Snape was definitely a liability, and they got two semi-confirmed 'townies' out of the deal. Although to be honest airbag tried to take way too much credit for the lynch when practically the whole town was screaming about LSB's scumminess and orgolove didn't follow up his 'confirmed' status by misdirecting town or doing anything really...
GG everyone, hope to play with you again soon. Just FYI, I don't think a single townie (Besides ROL, but ROL was working with me) actually accused me of scummyness. It was all mafia day 1. Basically everyone who attacked me was mafia.
It was all mafia? I'll have to go back and reread, but that brings up another point.
Your plan wasn't scummy. I thought it merited discussion, unfortunately when I said as much, I apparently drew a lot of suspicion >.<
Meapak and decon and RoL all thought I looked fishy, apparently I need to learn to play town
I thought my defense was good, but LSB's timing was just too good (i mean, he dropped his analysis of me while I was working on my own of beneather). Also, meapak had no way to go against what everyone wanted, and the town was afk as usual or just unwilling to change their mind about me. The comment "if you had posted like this in the first part of the day, you would have lived" was particularly irritating because I had not had any opportunity to post well before being accused...
@LSB: no hard feelings. I'm sore that I haven't got to play more than 1 day as town yet, but I'll keep trying I guess.
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Wait...So town manages to get 2 out of 8 mafia while losing 3/5 of their members in the process and STILL win? Something isnt right here...
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i think mafia could have still won even if the town knew the entire mafia list because town would need to continue to block hits the next two nights, but they conceded so thats all that matters
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On December 23 2010 07:30 aidnai wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2010 07:12 LSB wrote:On December 23 2010 07:09 aidnai wrote:
On the scum side, I thought bussing LSB to 'confirm' orgolove and airbag was pretty smart. I don't think anyone picked up on this analysis-wise at any point. Snape was definitely a liability, and they got two semi-confirmed 'townies' out of the deal. Although to be honest airbag tried to take way too much credit for the lynch when practically the whole town was screaming about LSB's scumminess and orgolove didn't follow up his 'confirmed' status by misdirecting town or doing anything really...
GG everyone, hope to play with you again soon. Just FYI, I don't think a single townie (Besides ROL, but ROL was working with me) actually accused me of scummyness. It was all mafia day 1. Basically everyone who attacked me was mafia. It was all mafia? I'll have to go back and reread, but that brings up another point. Your plan wasn't scummy. I thought it merited discussion, unfortunately when I said as much, I apparently drew a lot of suspicion >.< Meapak and decon and RoL all thought I looked fishy, apparently I need to learn to play town I thought my defense was good, but LSB's timing was just too good (i mean, he dropped his analysis of me while I was working on my own of beneather). Also, meapak had no way to go against what everyone wanted, and the town was afk as usual or just unwilling to change their mind about me. The comment "if you had posted like this in the first part of the day, you would have lived" was particularly irritating because I had not had any opportunity to post well before being accused... @LSB: no hard feelings. I'm sore that I haven't got to play more than 1 day as town yet, but I'll keep trying I guess.
Aww. I thought I was the most obvious town that wasn't in a circle 
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 23 2010 07:33 Incognito wrote:
Wait...So town manages to get 2 out of 8 mafia while losing 3/5 of their members in the process and STILL win? Something isnt right here...
You're so pessimistic. Town missed on one lynch the entire game (lets ignore electing a scum as mayor :p). Think of it this way: The town plays dead the first three days to extract vital information and the proceeds with 7 consecutive scum lynches. -_-
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If its 9 v 6 town shouldn't win ever.
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On December 23 2010 07:33 Incognito wrote:
Wait...So town manages to get 2 out of 8 mafia while losing 3/5 of their members in the process and STILL win? Something isnt right here...
informed minority vrs informed majority
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On December 23 2010 07:37 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2010 07:30 aidnai wrote:On December 23 2010 07:12 LSB wrote:On December 23 2010 07:09 aidnai wrote:
On the scum side, I thought bussing LSB to 'confirm' orgolove and airbag was pretty smart. I don't think anyone picked up on this analysis-wise at any point. Snape was definitely a liability, and they got two semi-confirmed 'townies' out of the deal. Although to be honest airbag tried to take way too much credit for the lynch when practically the whole town was screaming about LSB's scumminess and orgolove didn't follow up his 'confirmed' status by misdirecting town or doing anything really...
GG everyone, hope to play with you again soon. Just FYI, I don't think a single townie (Besides ROL, but ROL was working with me) actually accused me of scummyness. It was all mafia day 1. Basically everyone who attacked me was mafia. It was all mafia? I'll have to go back and reread, but that brings up another point. Your plan wasn't scummy. I thought it merited discussion, unfortunately when I said as much, I apparently drew a lot of suspicion >.< Meapak and decon and RoL all thought I looked fishy, apparently I need to learn to play town I thought my defense was good, but LSB's timing was just too good (i mean, he dropped his analysis of me while I was working on my own of beneather). Also, meapak had no way to go against what everyone wanted, and the town was afk as usual or just unwilling to change their mind about me. The comment "if you had posted like this in the first part of the day, you would have lived" was particularly irritating because I had not had any opportunity to post well before being accused... @LSB: no hard feelings. I'm sore that I haven't got to play more than 1 day as town yet, but I'll keep trying I guess. Aww. I thought I was the most obvious town that wasn't in a circle
No, you thought I looked fishy, not the other way around. I had no suspicion of you. I thought LSB and beneather were mafia day 1. I'm still not sure what I did wrong with beneather... I would have wagered my (in-game) life that he was scum.
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On December 23 2010 07:43 aidnai wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2010 07:37 deconduo wrote:On December 23 2010 07:30 aidnai wrote:On December 23 2010 07:12 LSB wrote:On December 23 2010 07:09 aidnai wrote:
On the scum side, I thought bussing LSB to 'confirm' orgolove and airbag was pretty smart. I don't think anyone picked up on this analysis-wise at any point. Snape was definitely a liability, and they got two semi-confirmed 'townies' out of the deal. Although to be honest airbag tried to take way too much credit for the lynch when practically the whole town was screaming about LSB's scumminess and orgolove didn't follow up his 'confirmed' status by misdirecting town or doing anything really...
GG everyone, hope to play with you again soon. Just FYI, I don't think a single townie (Besides ROL, but ROL was working with me) actually accused me of scummyness. It was all mafia day 1. Basically everyone who attacked me was mafia. It was all mafia? I'll have to go back and reread, but that brings up another point. Your plan wasn't scummy. I thought it merited discussion, unfortunately when I said as much, I apparently drew a lot of suspicion >.< Meapak and decon and RoL all thought I looked fishy, apparently I need to learn to play town I thought my defense was good, but LSB's timing was just too good (i mean, he dropped his analysis of me while I was working on my own of beneather). Also, meapak had no way to go against what everyone wanted, and the town was afk as usual or just unwilling to change their mind about me. The comment "if you had posted like this in the first part of the day, you would have lived" was particularly irritating because I had not had any opportunity to post well before being accused... @LSB: no hard feelings. I'm sore that I haven't got to play more than 1 day as town yet, but I'll keep trying I guess. Aww. I thought I was the most obvious town that wasn't in a circle No, you thought I looked fishy, not the other way around. I had no suspicion of you. I thought LSB and beneather were mafia day 1. I'm still not sure what I did wrong with beneather... I would have wagered my (in-game) life that he was scum.
Blame my killing of you on RoL, he pointed out that you were an easy lynch switch. Suicide attacks are fun too! if you posted Barunder probably you'd be able to survive, or at least take out Barunder some time later. The issue with your lynch was that there as no alternative. It was either lynch aidani, or... nothing.
And I'm a reaver!
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huh? was i in the radar for day 1?
E: think you misread, he wrote Beneather >_<
E2: Gratz!
E3:
Even if all went well, we would have gone from
9 v 6
9 v 5
7 v 4
Where our kill point would be reduced to 1. We would have to rely on 2 people voting random or going afk to get modkilled to win >_<
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oooh oops. XD. I kept on mixing you two day 1.
And yeah, beneather had some suspicion stuck on him, and I was defending him in thread in hopes that once I get lynched, people would think he's mafia.
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On December 23 2010 07:46 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2010 07:43 aidnai wrote:On December 23 2010 07:37 deconduo wrote:On December 23 2010 07:30 aidnai wrote:On December 23 2010 07:12 LSB wrote:On December 23 2010 07:09 aidnai wrote:
On the scum side, I thought bussing LSB to 'confirm' orgolove and airbag was pretty smart. I don't think anyone picked up on this analysis-wise at any point. Snape was definitely a liability, and they got two semi-confirmed 'townies' out of the deal. Although to be honest airbag tried to take way too much credit for the lynch when practically the whole town was screaming about LSB's scumminess and orgolove didn't follow up his 'confirmed' status by misdirecting town or doing anything really...
GG everyone, hope to play with you again soon. Just FYI, I don't think a single townie (Besides ROL, but ROL was working with me) actually accused me of scummyness. It was all mafia day 1. Basically everyone who attacked me was mafia. It was all mafia? I'll have to go back and reread, but that brings up another point. Your plan wasn't scummy. I thought it merited discussion, unfortunately when I said as much, I apparently drew a lot of suspicion >.< Meapak and decon and RoL all thought I looked fishy, apparently I need to learn to play town I thought my defense was good, but LSB's timing was just too good (i mean, he dropped his analysis of me while I was working on my own of beneather). Also, meapak had no way to go against what everyone wanted, and the town was afk as usual or just unwilling to change their mind about me. The comment "if you had posted like this in the first part of the day, you would have lived" was particularly irritating because I had not had any opportunity to post well before being accused... @LSB: no hard feelings. I'm sore that I haven't got to play more than 1 day as town yet, but I'll keep trying I guess. Aww. I thought I was the most obvious town that wasn't in a circle No, you thought I looked fishy, not the other way around. I had no suspicion of you. I thought LSB and beneather were mafia day 1. I'm still not sure what I did wrong with beneather... I would have wagered my (in-game) life that he was scum. Blame my killing of you on RoL, he pointed out that you were an easy lynch switch. Suicide attacks are fun too, if you posted Barunder probably you'd be able to survive, or at least take out Barunder some time later. The issue with your lynch was that there as no alternative. It was either lynch aidani, or... nothing. And I'm a reaver!
Congrats!
You're right about no alternative. That was meapaks fault for picking me and ilovejonn to focus on. Both town, and he was a lurker (nothing to analyze).
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