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kitaman27
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On December 19 2010 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: EBWOP what drh said is false, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I protected myself night one. Is that enough to get you to trust me? Another lie. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 19 2010 18:31 CubEdIn wrote: Well then it means that he wasn't hit anyway. And that he lied. I don't really like this game much. It's like house. Everyone lies. He was a green. Both Amber and the real medic said that he was hit. Are you saying they both lied? You seem pretty insistent to brush away this issue. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote: And I would probably just shut up and oblige, but from what I see so far, the PM circles blow. We lost a ton of blues, a ton of DTs, and we got one mafia who may or may not have turned town. Fair enough, but the only two of those that I was in contact with was Kenpachi, who was modkilled, and Pandain, who was lynched while I pushed for DrH. The leak hasn't come from my circle. On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote: Now, even if town gets successful lynches every night, it's still very much in trouble. So no, I won't take people who lie lightly. Yet you give DrH a free pass? On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote: Unfortunately, the Amber thing is irrelevant to me now, because, even though he lied, he is dead. But the point is that Amber not dieing on night one validates the real medic and discredits the fake one. On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote: Just wait for the night post. Agreed. DrH has not been protected by the real medic and he stated earlier in a pm that he cannot protect himself so if he survives the night hits then its pretty clear he is guilty. He will probably say the mafia let him live to create suspicion, but they really let him live because he is their leader. Anyone find it weird that he is not desperate to find out the identity of the real medic? If there is a double name claim and he is really pomfrey than the other medic is 100% guilty. Instead he portrays me as a "misguided" town and spends his time defending himself. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 19 2010 09:39 ~OpZ~ wrote: -er-....i would of voted pandain again. i had absolutely zero to say about the discussion, and i thought pandain was scum. i've never seen him play like that before, and when i get on my comp and off my phone, ill post my analysis of him. personally i think im weak at analysis. atleast when im not 100% sure like you seem to be about drH. i was even noting the connection between the two. pandain played completely unlike himself, and i thought he was scum. ive pointed it out all game. my vote wasnt changing, so screw that for FoSing me. noT yo mention i was voting for RoL on the sole stipulation he lynched LSB. would you like me to look at someone tomorrow? Its tough to give a free pass to those who lynched the dt, when I had proposed a 1:1 trade for scum. If you believe that I am 100% sure, then why would you vote for pandain again? I agree his weird "claim" to be my dt was bizarre, but DrH was the sure thing. If you want to look at someone, I would suggest waiting until after the DrH lynch, but the choice is yours. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote: So you're saying that there's only one medic left in the whole game? And it can't be DrH because he said that he did not protect Amber? Fair enough, but how do we know there's just one more medic left? There have been 3DTs so far, we could easily have more medics, no? If there's a reason why we think it's just one medic left, then I missed it, and if it's irrefutable, then that's the best proof against DrH that I've seen so far. You must have missed this, or chose to ignore it, but Meapak claimed a type of medic too. DrH stated that Meapak protected Amber night one and Meapak responded that this was a lie. The real pomfrey told me that they protected Amber night one. That means the other pomfrey is a fraud. On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote: What really? You would want him to try and "out" the other person? That would be incredibly anti-town. Seriously, if you're wrong about him, when DrH dies, you will have to produce the other person or else it's your head that will roll 100%. Why would he try and give the mafia a free hit? (assuming you are correct, and that other medic is the real one). You are either confused or defending your scumbuddy to the death. That makes no sense at all. They both claimed the same name. One of them is scum, the other is not. If DrH is pomfrey then he knows 100% that the other medic is scum. This would NOT be giving the mafia a free hit. On December 20 2010 00:22 ~OpZ~ wrote: Just gonna correct this, but he has asked you numerous times to produce both the medic, and dt that called him out. So this is incorrect to say. I will not say that it makes him any less scummy tho, but I can understand why you'd want someone calling you red to come out. He's arguing with you, and you're nothing more than a proxy. I just read through all his posts and couldn't find a reference to where he asked me to produce the other medic and the dt that checked the real medic. Though he has suggested numerous times that he is ok with a 1:1 trade, but then follows that up by saying I'm scum so I won't reveal the other medic. Lets follow his wishes and lynch him tonight, and we can lynch the other medic the next day. On December 20 2010 00:46 ~OpZ~ wrote: No Cubedin, DrH has claimed Pomfrey. Another person, I believe, the story is has gotten name checked as Pomfrey by Kenpachi? Yes DrH has claimed Pomfrey. Another person has been checked as Pomfrey, but that person was not kenpachi. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 01:23 CubEdIn wrote: Well you're right. I'm confused as hell. I understood that there are two Pomfreys. I understood that someone protected Amber, but that someone was not DrH (or Meapakk). However, I don't see why this constitutes a case against DrH, that's all. Just try to EXPLAIN other than incriminate me. DrH claimed medic, correct? Then how would he know what Meapakk did? And why would he say that meapakk defended Amber if he didn't know that for sure. These are things that I just don't understand. I did not bring up my case against DrH because he did not protect Amber. I didn't even bring this up until after the Pandain lynch. Here is the thought process: 1) Two people claim to be Pomfrey 2) I must decide which of the two is more scummy to push for lynch reasons against DrH: -He claimed medic on day one/two to multiple people after stating what a dumb move this is in Salem -He starts off as a smurf and then switches to his real account to influence the town -The other pomfrey was checked by a dt 3) I publicly reveal DrH's claim as pomfrey and push for his lynch 4) The mafia know whether or not DrH is the real pomfrey, they choose to spare him. Instead, the only people who vote DrH are myself, a couple of mod-confirmed townies, and a few others. Rather than taking a 1:1 trade the town decides to push someone they deem more suspicious, who turns out to be a dt. Why did he say Meapak protected Amber? To cover the fact that Amber wasn't protected by him. This later was shown to be a lie. On December 20 2010 01:23 CubEdIn wrote: Again, you're looking at this from your perspective alone. I do not know that there are two people who claimed Pomfrey. Only YOU know that, we just have to believe you. So from my point of view, I know that DrH said he's Pomfrey and that you said that's a lie. Even if DrH IS pomfrey, then he has YOU, who KNOWS who that other guy is, and when he flips green you will HAVE to give us his identity. I don't think anyone has denied the fact that there are two Pomfrey claims. Above you even admit its probably true with "I understood that there are two Pomfreys." If after the DrH lynch, I refuse to give up the other Pomfrey then I will vote myself for lynch. I suggest you do as well. On December 20 2010 01:23 CubEdIn wrote: Explain to me how my logic doesn't work? Why would anyone reveal the identity of BOTH people who claimed Pomfrey in the thread? Really, just try to slowly explain it to me as if I was a retard. Scenario 1 -> DrH is blue. => The other Pomfrey is a red. They would not kill DrH because then you would out the red. Unless they could kill all the people who know the red's identity, they would have to let DrH live. It would be in Mafia's interest that the town doesn't know the red's identity, correct? Scenario 2 -> DrH is red. => The other Pomfrey is blue. Mafia would like to know his name because he's a medic. It would be in Mafia's interest that the medic is revealed to the town (and to them, obviously). -> this would be giving mafia a free hit, it's what I was referring to. Claiming in public = free information for Mafia. That's how I see it. Please explain where I am wrong, because I feel pretty retarded right now. Agreed. I am not revealing the other medic until DrH is dead. That is what I have been saying. The problem was that if DrH is Pomfrey then he must know the other Pomfrey is red. I know if I were in his place I would be desperate to stop the fake claimer rather than brush off the accusation and focus my efforts on some weak gryffindor claim by Why. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 18 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: He also said that if I were checked I would come back town and that is impossible that I returned a death-eater aligned result. Whoever said that is lying. lol what? My dt checked a pomfrey. My dt did not check DrH as red. Don't fall for this misdirection. On December 18 2010 08:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm not lying. Your DT can go ahead and check me so we can lynch the fake claimer. He is not calling for the dt's identity. He is asking the dt to check him because he is the elder. On December 18 2010 18:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: So I'm FoS'd for defending our DT and protecting the other one right? Good logic. Maybe we can lynch all those fake DT's who said I was red now. All those fake Dt's that said he was red? Again misdirection. My dt checked someone that came up pomfrey. My dt did not check him as red. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 06:36 deconduo wrote: 3. Airbag/DoctorHelvetica 11. CubEdIn 12. Meapak_Ziphh 9. Coagulation 13. Barundar 14. Node 15. chaoser 17. kitaman27 20. orgolove 21. ~OpZ~ 30. tube All remaining mafia are in this group somewhere, along with Ollivander, Nicolas Flamel and either Harry/Hermione. All we need to work out is which is which. Opps, you forgot one. Let me fix that for you. ##Vote DrH | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 06:49 deconduo wrote: Because I don't think he is. And considering this is potential mylo, I'd like to know who his counterclaim is. We have no information except that 'someone investigated someone and that someone was Poppy and not drh and then someone told kitaman' Huge help that is. Please explain to me why you don't think DrH is Lord Voldermont. He claimed medic day one, lied about Meapak protecting Amber night one, he lied about protecting kenpachi night two, he switches to his real account to influence the town. We wouldn't be in a potential mylo situation if the town had listened to me in the first place. Can you also please elaborate on your potential death condition tomorrow? | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 07:07 orgolove wrote: I don't get why DrH became a sudden target of everyone's investigations. lol? Because he double name claimed. On December 20 2010 07:07 orgolove wrote: One of you are claiming that one of your friends investigated someone else and he was doctor, and that friend said that that someone he investigated was not DrH, and that someone who knew his friend knew that DrH was not Poppy then told you kitaman. You are trying to discredit my claim by making it sound overly confusing. A dt checked the real Poppy. DrH later claims Poppy. DrH should be lynched. Further Kenpachi was modkilled, not killed by a mafia. So we don't know for sure if DrH is actually lying. Yes we do. DrH said kenpachi was hit night two. The hit points are all accounted for. When I called him on it, he later changed his story that kenpachi was bus-drivered instead. If he was bus-drivered then he never would have known he was hit in the first place. His claims are all over the place. This is MYLO. I am as suspicious of DrH (or any one of you) as anyone else. But I'm not going to vote to lynch anyone unless we get something 100% concrete. And that's especially considering how many LIES there were in this game - you might still be lying right now, and trying to start a bandwagon early in the day to seal the deal. lol early in the day? I started this bandwagon on Friday morning. Cmon now. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 07:37 annul wrote: if this is true, then he was cheating. next time someone blatantly cheats in PM land, report it. they get modkilled. For the record, I didn't ask him to claim to me. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 08:03 CubEdIn wrote: Meh, my power is a bit odd. I can't tell who checks my target, or what they do. But once I check someone, I can see actions against them for the rest of the game (or until I die). If any of the other "watches" could be verified I would have said something. But the other watches were rather useless. Night #1: LSB. He was visited by someone. Night #2: Airbag. He was not visited by anyone. Night #3: Airbag. He was visited by someone & zeks - he was also visited by someone, obviously. I know it's convenient, but I checked LSB because he was scummy as hell. And I checked zeks because he seemed very pro-town, but in last night's debacle he chose not to vote, which I found very suspicious. So yeah. I can check whoever you want me to check, and I'll still have my sights on Airbag. "camera fanatic. able to take a picture of a player once per game. because pictures move in the wizarding world, you are able to see every action that player takes (but not the target)." Fair enough I somewhat trust you now. I take it this is what you are claiming? | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 07:55 Mr.Zergling wrote: I am kind of a mixed role: DT/Roleblocker/Medic Meapak already hinted at ollivander so you can remove him off your list. Chaoser was replaced by Gabriel. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 08:32 CubEdIn wrote: Well, after the game started, I watched the entire Harry Potter series and realized why my character had this power. It made sense in the movie, at least, I don't know about the books. Either way, as I told pandain and others in this game. I'm not fond of claiming names. It ruins the game (obviously). If you guys think you can use my powers, then just tell me who to track (via PM, preferably) and I will. If not, then don't. I have shared as much as I could, if not too much. Lets wait to resolve this mess until later. DrH is our target right now. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 08:51 Barundar wrote: I think Kitaman is lying about extra DT and whatnot. Based on his dedication, Jcarl "confirmed" him. Obvious he is Voldemort or real Poppy, and at the moment it's down to a flip between him and DrH. Kitaman said DrH and Pandain was scum. DrH said Pandain was not scum. Kitaman could have been lying about both. DrH could have been right about Pandain beceause he was scum. Town would be safer to find scum elsewhere. vote Coagulation lolz | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 09:07 Barundar wrote: So you deny? I'm very aware its mislynch or lose. I see 7 mafia alive, and a shortlist of people it can be. There is a better chance of hitting scum from that list than through kitaman/drh You think I'm lying about my Dt? Lunar already confirmed the existence of my dt. Are you saying me, my dt and lunar are all lying? | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 09:23 Barundar wrote: I say you are lying about your identity, and it hurts town. Especially when it's so glaringly obvious. How are we supposed to trust you? Deconduo's list. So first I'm lying about my dt and now I'm lying about my identity? Heh. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 10:58 Mr.Zergling wrote: Here we go, one part of powers is gender DT, and Kitaman is female Sigh I suppose I better role claim then + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.ohthescandal.com/home/getithere/sites/ohthescandal.com/htdocs/wp-content/uploads/potter_bra.jpg) You are a cross-dressing Harry Potter. By day you the hero of the wizarding world, but by night you let your feminine side go wild. All gender checks that take place during the night will appear as female. You win with town. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 14:06 orgolove wrote: With all this lynching of DrH, I can't help but bring back the spectres of annul's last victory in DrH's experimental Mafia. Just like this, we had seen a "confirmed" blue/group of blues 100% sure that the person we were lynching is a red. Then suddenly, the person that EVERYBODY was so sure about, that he was such a definite blue, turned out to be a master of disguise. I'm looking at you Annul. This is a truly crucial lynch for us. Are we 100% sure that the person leading the charge is clearly a blue? In this game, there has been clear instances where 1) targets of actions were switched 2) many, many confirmed blues lied (see: the veteran claim) 3) people fake roleclaimed Here again it feels like we are being led on by the tongue through the fingers of a godfather or some other sort of role that lets you hide your true identity. And I'm getting a similar vibe from the people leading the discussion to lynch DrH right now - why specifically. *Facepalm Might I suggest that the mafia take this time to bus your scumbuddy? I'm really getting tired of responding to these type of posts. | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 15:02 orgolove wrote: I'm hardly inclined to trust you when even confirmed blues... you know... lied? So Amber trying to draw a second hit must mean I'm lying about a totally unrelated subject, right? | ||
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