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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 14 2010 06:34 GMT
#744
On December 14 2010 15:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 15:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
sorry for talking for the mod, but results and actions are always returned with the day post. The reason being it allows the users to change their actions until the day post and makes it so day 1 rc shit doesn't happen.


So LSB would not know the result of RoL's check before RoL was killed.

Sorry LSB. Caught you.


Quoting myself because I feel it is extremely important everyone sees this post.

Lynch LSB. He lied about the fact that RoL checked orgolove and that orgolove killed RoL, because RoL would not have gotten this information until the day, when he was already dead.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 14 2010 16:06 GMT
#765
On December 15 2010 00:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 14:35 LSB wrote:

+ Show Spoiler [Role Claim] +
I am the Traitor. When Name Checked I am ****. When check my role shows up as "no role". When Alignment checked I am death eater. I also count as part of the death eaters when determining the KP.

I win with the town.

I was planning on giving myself up to the town once we killed a death eater to reduce the overall KP. But now it's too late.
Anyways. I do have one special role though. I can pick a member and determine with absolute certainty if he is mafia, and who he killed. This is because I accompany him to the kill and help him do his business.

Last night Orgolove hit RoL





To prevent later speculation, you accompanied orgolove last night, right? So RoL did not dt check him like you suggested earlier?


On December 14 2010 13:51 LSB wrote:
All I'm saying is that RoL checked Orgolove before he died.
I did not do anything to encourage him to go that way.

Once I flip green, kill Orgolove. He probably has some kind of role that causes him to kill the dt that visits him.


I don't like liars.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 14 2010 17:00 GMT
#770
On December 15 2010 01:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 01:43 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:51 LSB wrote:
All I'm saying is that RoL checked Orgolove before he died.
I did not do anything to encourage him to go that way.

Once I flip green, kill Orgolove. He probably has some kind of role that causes him to kill the dt that visits him.


This is not true. RoL was checking Opz before he died, not Orgolove.


there is still the possibility that he was trying to push orgolove without role claiming. If that was the case though, I would assume LSB would say so, rather than allow him to get caught up in a lie.

Meapak, did you inform LSB that the "scream" referred to a roleblocking ability against you or was LSB the first one to bring it up. If LSB was the first to mention it, I'm not sure how so many people can be accusing him of making it up, unless LSB was part of the team that caused the scream.


That's exactly the suspicion. If LSB knew someone was getting role blocked, he could immediately say "FFFFFFUUUUUUUU" in the thread, which he did.

I see no reason for LSB to have lied about this. If he was gunning to get scum killed, he would have come forward with any information he had, not make something up that was impossible logistically. The scum slips are so tasty.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 14 2010 19:30 GMT
#776
On December 15 2010 04:27 CubEdIn wrote:
7PM KST or EST?

Sorry, but neither of those are really familiar.
You can use the the "time" tag to make it easy for everyone.

Like say:
Day will end at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Or say "In 6 hours". Or give me CET/GMT. :D

It's just that KST and EST are confusing to most Europeans, sorry.


Have to make everything hard, don't you =P

I think he means 7pm EST, which is in ~4.5 hours.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 15 2010 01:23 GMT
#837
Alright, so LSB knew he was mafia, and thought he just had no powers. Good job town, looks like a win for us.

What I'm curious of know is why Kenpachi was 100% certain that LSB was town. Kenpachi is probably our best target now.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 15 2010 01:28 GMT
#839
On December 15 2010 10:24 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 10:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Alright, so LSB knew he was mafia, and thought he just had no powers. Good job town, looks like a win for us.

What I'm curious of know is why Kenpachi was 100% certain that LSB was town. Kenpachi is probably our best target now.

hey doesnt Snape sound like hes a townie?


Snape...snape...severus snape...

"sounds like" is not 100% proof. You were so convicted on convincing us he was town, when he was not at all. He could very easily have stayed scum and flown under the radar. We nipped the problem in the ass before it became a huge issue.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 15 2010 04:39 GMT
#854
When is day annul?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 15 2010 17:42 GMT
#872
On December 16 2010 02:20 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
I disagree. DT checks should be used to find mafia, and not to confirm innocents. Trying to confirm innocents is just a waste of time considering the possibility of a godfather/roleblocker. If a DT tries to find a red, but find a town, then you get an innocent to start a circle with. If you hit red, share it with the town.

Are you confirming their innocence or persuading us they don't need to be checked.
WIFOM.


Lol, I know you're new, but I think you need to learn how to use WIFOM properly =P
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 16 2010 05:05 GMT
#929
Hey Airbag, what ever happened to this?

I'm going to protect Amber. He's a good scumhunter but he's playing under the radar right now which makes me think he has a blue role or he's doing something significant in PMs. I think he's more active as mafia.

I imagine he'll be valuable tomorrow or day 4.


Also:


On December 16 2010 13:13 LunarDestiny wrote:
In the case of my circle, Annul had to say it explicitly that the circle is made out of all townies. So I presume that circles with both town and mafia exist. In another word, if your role pm didn't say your circle is made out of all townies, beware.


Mine was described the same way, and since annul said he doesn't lie in his PMs, I have absolutely no reason to believe that my allies are scum.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 16 2010 05:31 GMT
#934
On December 16 2010 14:09 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 14:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Hey Airbag, what ever happened to this?

I'm going to protect Amber. He's a good scumhunter but he's playing under the radar right now which makes me think he has a blue role or he's doing something significant in PMs. I think he's more active as mafia.

I imagine he'll be valuable tomorrow or day 4.


Also:


On December 16 2010 13:13 LunarDestiny wrote:
In the case of my circle, Annul had to say it explicitly that the circle is made out of all townies. So I presume that circles with both town and mafia exist. In another word, if your role pm didn't say your circle is made out of all townies, beware.


Mine was described the same way, and since annul said he doesn't lie in his PMs, I have absolutely no reason to believe that my allies are scum.


Sorry, but have you mentioned the names of these allies?


My allies are ghrur and oddo123. Ghrur was replaced by pevergreen. I have no idea why pevergreen thinks I am scum, I am a mod-confirmed town to him.

I am in a house of the school. I believe it a wise idea for the houses to come forward, because banding together is the best way to defeat the Death Eaters (as is very nicely shown in the 7th book).

My allies and I are Gryffindor.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 16 2010 05:31 GMT
#935
Er...I hope I can claim that...
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 16 2010 05:43 GMT
#937
On December 16 2010 14:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hey jcarl your PM said that your circle was all town... But did theirs?


It says I have a confirmed town-aligned group. Would that not mean all of the members in it are town aligned?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 16 2010 19:56 GMT
#954
I don't have an alternate win condition in Gryffindor, not sure about the other two.

Why is NOT in my alliance group. I'm not sure why he is saying he is in Gryffindor.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 16 2010 20:22 GMT
#958
On December 17 2010 05:19 Pandain wrote:
1.Was snape part of mafia, or just like a traitor?
2. Did mafia know snape knew them?
3. are these mod formed circles or circles that just sprung up?



1. He was mafia, he thought he was just normal mafia with no powers.

2. I would assume so.

3. These are mod formed circles. At least, mine is.


I love how when Pandain's name is mentioned, he just pops up. You need to address the fact that you are lurking hardcore.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 17 2010 00:16 GMT
#978
On December 17 2010 09:12 annul wrote:
Gabriel has replaced chaoser.

tube responded to my PM and says he will be posting soon. if he doesn't, i'll pull the trigger on him in a bit.

* * * * *

ghote the Cho Chang has been mod killed.

+ Show Spoiler +
you are Cho Chang!

you win with town


* * * * *

the day is not over. you still have ~24 hours for the day.


Lame. Role should have been "If you find Harry Potter and have sex with him, Cedric will die."
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 17 2010 00:17 GMT
#979
On December 17 2010 09:16 annul wrote:
airbag has permission to switch to his main account.

airbag the smurf has become doctorhelvetica.


Tah-dah!

I'm curious as to why you are switching. How many other people did you reveal your smurf-ness to other than me?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 17 2010 03:39 GMT
#1002
Caps lock is totally cruise control for cool and "I'm always right..."
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 17 2010 17:21 GMT
#1022
On December 18 2010 02:16 Barundar wrote:
Kitaman I feel like I'm missing something here. You say another one claimed Poppy, and that we should lynch both. I agree.

So who is this other Poppy, in case you are lying to us about DrH?


Why would you want to lynch a DT confirmed Poppy?

I can confirm that Dr.H PMd me at the start of the game (as Airbag) posing as a noob. He was asking some questions, saying he wanted to team up with a veteran to stay alive. I am by no means a veteran, and he was trying to sweet talk me to get my trust. After watching him post, I had determined that he was most certainly a smurf. When I called him out on it, he eventually told me that he was DocH. He also made a claim early that he was able to protect people, so I figured he was Poppy. When talking to Kitaman, he said that he had a DT who had found the real Poppy, and it was not Airbag/Dr.H.

Also, in many many posts Doc has been saying "I feel the mafia are just lurking and being quiet, letting the town tear each other apart." This is all while Doc has been one of the most active posters, so I believe this is a way to shed suspicion of himself.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 17 2010 17:30 GMT
#1025
On December 18 2010 02:28 Barundar wrote:
I was refering to this sentence by Kitaman.
Show nested quote +
I had already recieved a pm that a dt type role had already located a Pomfrey. I pm'd annul to confirm that there were not duplicate role claims and he said that I was correct. That leads us to the fact that one of the two sources is lying. What do we do with liars? We lynch them.

He states we lynch them, but he only mentions one.



"What do we do with liars? We lynch them."

He was keeping it grammatically correct.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 17 2010 17:42 GMT
#1030
On December 18 2010 02:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 02:35 deconduo wrote:
99% sure Doc H isn't mafia. If you read one of my previous posts, LSB gave me PMs with the 2 of them talking. There was absolutely no reason for LSB to fake PMs from another mafia member at that point in the game. Here they are again:

+ Show Spoiler +

I'd rather not draw that much attention to myself...

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From LSB:
If you want, you can be the auditor.

The thing is, since I'm doing it, the mafia won't be able to slip in and and manipulate the vote.

Changing the voting record is also a problem with normal voting. All the mafia has to do is decide slightly earlier.

If you really don't like the private vote idea. (I take it the general sentiment is that they don't want it) We can do reasoned voting, or runoff voting

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Airbag:
but if you are mafia it increases the ways in which you can manipulate the vote and it gives the mafia a long time to discuss how they'd like their voting record to look without ever having to appear wishy washy for changing it

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From LSB:
The issue is that people like to go with the bandwagon. It seems safer, and there is a false sense of security in voting with the majority.

Private votes allow each person to make their decision independently. It cuts off ways for the mafia to influence people.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Airbag:
I understand wanting to vote for a player with experience but you can just manipulate the votes if ur mafia

Why not just have people post their votes publicly, then it's completely impossible for you to lie about it.



Didn't the whole LBS situation seem a little fishy to you though? He practically role claimed scum for some weird 1:1 trade with oroglove. PM's can be fabricated. In the previous game, there was a decent amount of discussion on mafia and fake pms. Why fake role claim if you are clean?


Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "There was absolutely no reason for LSB to fake PMs from another mafia member at that point in the game."

At what point in the game does it begin to be good for mafia to start faking PMs?
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