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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 18 2010 07:04 GMT
#99
/in
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 26 2010 13:26 GMT
#230
On November 26 2010 17:35 flamewheel wrote:
Expelliarmus biatch



PROTEGO
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 04:23 GMT
#304
harry potter stuff is all you ever need, this is SALEM mafia, we are all magical people here ok

produce your wand, yo.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 04:38 GMT
#307
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 04:44 GMT
#309
what better way to teach the game than to show them precisely what the "non-learning" games are all about?

but okay, sure. real analysis?

the only thing we need now is pandain to attempt to get people to claim to him in PMs and to start a circle and we have a standard TL mafia game. drh is already vying for day 1 leader so we are certainly off to the normal start.

thing of note is that the OP explicitly says not all roles may exist in the game. dont do analysis assuming all these roles are there, especially when trying to reverse engineer rolecounts through the guise of "well, THIS is balanced!" etc.

also if this is a "learning game" then i guess we should stick to the bread and butter playstyles and not go all out with crazy trickeries and gambits and stuff
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 04:51 GMT
#310
ps i voted for darth because a random vote on drh is pretty frowntown given the daily circumstances
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 05:15 GMT
#313
haunted and insane actually had a lot of content to discuss on day 1, surprisingly enough
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 20:54 GMT
#350
wifom baby yeah <3
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 22:00 GMT
#372
On November 28 2010 06:04 deconduo wrote:
As coag said, the PM thing is pretty irrelevant. I'm not going to tell someone my true feelings through PM, especially because I have no idea if I'm talking to maf or not. I would like to hear what annul has to say about it though.


drh PMed me before day post even came up...

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From: DoctorHelvetica [ 9498 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: sup witch buddy
Date: 11/26/10 12:13
and by everybody i mean like 5 people becuase im too lazy to pm everyone

ghrur is dumb and thinks i am actually mafia who didn't get the pm with my teammates SIGH

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Original Message From annul:
what?

if youre claiming witch then i think you just broke the game, cuz i did not get sent a witch role =\

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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
lol so who else in our team?



so i mean drh seems to be messaging everybody with garbage like this; its not really surprising in a newbie game that maybe 1 person is going to bite. so of course i dont believe any PM claims.

i do think though that you can look at what is said in PM as evidence for day 1 lynches, but not in a "well he claimed so we believe him" way
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 22:09 GMT
#375
smart yeah, but i almost feel like it is an unfair thing to do. many newbies may not understand their roles so well... or maybe make assumptions about what people can say and do about roles, etc. i know, for example, in one place i play mafia on IRC, it is illegal to fake claim detective as a civ in a 9 player game (2 mafia 1 dt 6 civ). just saying.

as for point 2, because pandain is acting red to me and the choice was him or someone else?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 01:13 GMT
#424
you quote pandain and add absolutely nothing to the conversation, its like "HEY DID YOU GUYS NOT SEE THAT POST??!?!?!?!"

yeah they did.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 01:17 GMT
#427
i heavily defend attacks against me no matter what, green blue or red. make a note of this.

i claimed this in haunted (red), followed it up in insane (blue), and continued the trend in sengoku (blue, though i guess that isn't "proven" yet). why stop now?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 01:24 GMT
#440
haha nicely done.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 01:25 GMT
#442
and ps i never claimed any color for this game.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 17:09 GMT
#513
so glad i rejected you access to hp mafia

for lulz ill post the PM chain between he and i

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From: Scaramanga [ 6147 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: HP Mafia
Date: 11/28/10 22:33
Ahk cool thanks for letting me sit out, few hosts have said no for some reason
Im in Bc's mafia game atm due to the host's not going by the ban list so i just thought i'd check if your the same. If you leave it up to the mods im pretty sure they'll say no
I hope i get to play in anymore of your future games

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Original Message From annul:
hey,

i do not make the rules, so unless you can get a mod override of the ban (try posting in the ban thread, it has worked before to get bans overridden) then you cannot play in this one.

i will gladly count it to your total of sat games.

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Original Message From Scaramanga:
Hello,
Im an old school mafia player who fucked up very badly a long time ago, as a result i received a three game ban of which i have not chipped into (i didnt read the ban thread properly and thought i just had to wait through a game). I was just enquiring as to whether or not the ban thread effects who plays in your games. If not i'll be very happy to play in your mafia game, if so i ask if it is ok to use your game to sit out and absorb one of my bans.
Thanks
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 17:36 GMT
#516
i may have to introduce an ability in HP mafia called scaramitis, then it would come full circle
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 18:36 GMT
#523
i think he should random a green and give him the DT =\
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 29 2010 00:24 GMT
#539
hey now

who are you to tell me what i can and cannot do in my hosted games, provided i am not breaking any rules?

i was unaware we could just flat ban people we didnt like from hosted games
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 29 2010 01:18 GMT
#546
f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 29 2010 03:22 GMT
#582
On November 29 2010 12:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On November 29 2010 12:10 SouthRawrea wrote:
Alright I'm not entire sure of the legitimacy of DrH's town circle but I've had a DT come to me with my correct role so I will act as his mouthpiece for the remainder of this game. Basically in PM land at this point we've been looking for a secure way of connecting with DrH's circle without putting risk to both groups.


Well that is some progress at least. However, I won't completely trust this after annul raping us in Haunted...





;D

... ;D

that said, the other, more probable alternative way this could fuck town over (other than him being godfather i mean) is that he is actually mafia and his "DT" is either another mafia player and/or doesnt exist. in a game like this with only 1 mafia team, sacrificing 1 member for completely fucking the town circle is a good play, especially if he can get a few other blues out of the deal.

this was bad in haunted because the red teams wanted to kill the other red team and NOT the town, but here with only 1 red team and their target the town, those blues will fall pretty quickly to a play like that.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 30 2010 06:30 GMT
#640
tbh this game is prematurely fucked for the town due to a DT suiciding so like i really have stopped paying much attention since then

if im still alive later on in the game im sure i will pay more attention to the stuff (and, specifically, look at individual posts of the ones still alive), but in the meanwhile ill give cursory skims and vote my gut and/or what people i think are town are voting. for some reason i just do not "feel" this game =(

id almost say "go and kill me" but i mean you really are better off just finding scum, not lynching a townie for not caring so much on day 2

not that i think i am in any danger whatsoever, mind you
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 30 2010 17:36 GMT
#671
btw, it goes against my mafia DNA to "give up" - i am only explaining why i am not so active in this one right now

when it gets deeper in the game if i am still here i will do my part, for sure.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 30 2010 17:39 GMT
#673
but i do appreciate the reputation for skill i have among the noobs ;D
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 30 2010 17:41 GMT
#675
also i am reading the thread mind you, so i know all of what is happening
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 30 2010 17:44 GMT
#677
jcarl the reason for that is because i feel it is usually better to say nothing if you have nothing to say. when i have stuff to say believe me i say it. this goes for whatever color i happen to be. notice in haunted i pretty much said nothing of significance for the first two days and then when i felt i had a chance to affect the game, i started making noise...

not claiming red by any stretch, but that is just how i play no matter what. and right now if i were to speak up on something or FOS someone, it wouldnt be strong. i dont feel it right now. when i do, i will, thats all im saying.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 02 2010 02:30 GMT
#980
On December 02 2010 11:03 Radfield wrote:
Why Annul is Mafia

Annul fits the mafia profile in several key ways:

Is Active during Day 1, but provides little content. Everything he states is pretty much obvious or spam.

"everything" i state? have you been through EVERY post of mine? cuz i know of at least a few posts i made that even drh said "thats a good point" implying he didnt come up with it. or maybe it is obvious to you because you control all the info (as red)? hmmmmmmm

He has a marked decline in posting from day 1 -> Day 2. Culminating in an almost disappearance from the thread.

yes, tell-tale sign of a mafia right here, not caring about the game

Continually references past games.

i hear invoking reference points to bolster arguments is 100% a scum tactic confirm/deny pls

Writes a giving up post at a time when the town is far far ahead, and there is absolutely no reason to be demoralized. Basically coming up with an excuse for future inactivity.

i am demoralized because we got a suiciding DT who received absolutely nothing for his suicide. it doesnt matter if town had a good night 1, we would have a better day 2 if the DT didnt suicide out. the town, then, is at a permanent disadvantage RELATIVE to what it could otherwise be. if the dolphins are up 10-7 thats great but im not happy if instead it could have been 14-7.


States how he will aggressively defend himself but does not do it. He never once responded to Pandain's accusation.(contradiction)

pandain's accusation was not worth defending. perhaps i should caveat: if a REAL attack is on me, one with potential to gain traction, i aggressively defend. pandabear is bullshitting around fishing for scumtells (or is red himself dunno).

States how he will not give up but seemingly does it, and completely stops posting.(contradiction)

i said i had nothing of value to say so i was shutting up. i said the game was irrepairably broken due to scaramanga being dumb, and no matter what, town is playing at a deficit relative to where it should be given the sum of all actions. i have nothing to say so i say nothing. now i do, hello rad <3

Also, top it all off, Dr H just stated that Annul knew that Coag was the medic.

i did? i mean maybe i did and dont remember it, but if he PMed me with that information i surely didnt process it enough to base any of my actions on it lol

None of these things on their own blare out scum, but all put together make a strong case. In fact, there is not a single redeeming, solid post in Annul's history this game. Someone please show me how he is town?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 02 2010 03:45 GMT
#994
oh ok

so basically radfield's claim that all i post are "nothing posts" when he just cites me actually contributing

good to know

"though not spam this is a NOTHING VOTE" o rly? voting for the ones on drh is nothing vote huh? k

also evidently calling someone out on wifom is also a "nothing post"

well shit man if i do not have a "single redeeming post all game" (paraphrase) then neither do you.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 02 2010 03:47 GMT
#995
you also fall back on this magical "MISCONSTRUCTION OF MY POST LOL" thing. am i really misconstruing your post? really? you had a bullet list of why i am mafia. i countered them, in order, as YOU listed them. why, then, is this a misconstruction?

dont blame me if you didnt make clear what your hidden definition or argument was if you dont actually write it in your fos post
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 02 2010 17:36 GMT
#1028
here is my logic for this game:

1. doctorh knows way too much information
2. because of this, if he is mafia, we auto lose.
3. therefore, we must assume he is not, and trust him implicitly, as our only chance to win.
4. doctorh, given his role as leader of town circle, is investing tons of time in this game
5. therefore, he knows a bit more about people's tendencies etc than i, an outsider, can know.

.*. whatever doctorh wants to happen, i will follow.

he doesnt like radfield. he doesnt like JS. cool, me neither. awesome. vote them.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 02 2010 17:43 GMT
#1030
why does it make you look bad? not saying anything that isnt already known tbh
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 21:04:43
December 02 2010 21:04 GMT
#1040
hey peeps,

allow me to interject the awesomeness of this game to advertise the fact that HARRY POTTER MAFIA is forming! it will go down once this game finishes. i really like the role list and setup for this one (i am biased of course) and it will be pwnage and awesome.

go go play sign up lets rock this biiiitch <3


edit: formatting
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 04 2010 22:21 GMT
#1146
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 05 2010 00:35 GMT
#1157
On December 05 2010 08:27 Kavdragon wrote:
Annul. I'm calling you out specifically. I know you are board, and are uninterested in this game atm. You said that if you survived till later you'd step up and do your part. Now is the time. I need your expertise in this matter. What have you to say?


i will analyze the players you request

you say its 11-4 right? give me a list of remaining players and claimed roles (do it in IRC if you must)

right now im sitting in the library studying for finals, but when i decide its break time ill check shit out.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 05 2010 01:09 GMT
#1161
of course, but behavioral analysis is much better when i have something to go on. for example if i know someone claimed vet and they are acting timid as fuck i know something is not right
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 05 2010 02:23 GMT
#1163
?

i never claimed vet
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 05 2010 02:34 GMT
#1165
100% coincidence lol

but if that is what he did and if that is how he is acting, i definitely understand the suspicion now!
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 05 2010 04:37 GMT
#1170
alright

drh suspected ym

i am gonna go along with that.

kavdragon agrees. so we are gonna drop two on his face right now in the voting thread. suggest all townies to follow suit.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 05 2010 04:37 GMT
#1171
we have more to come soon too on other people, but for now, the firing power is on ym.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 05 2010 05:09 GMT
#1173
"Witch killing power is 2 until there are less than 2 witches."

does this mean that it only drops to 1 when there is 1 witch left?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 05 2010 19:19 GMT
#1183
its 9-0 on YM

end day early imo
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 05 2010 21:39 GMT
#1190
esben, what is your role
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 05 2010 23:32 GMT
#1212
allow me to use my GG post to announce that this game is almost over and therefore sign up for harry potter mafia! need to fill it up cuz we begin when salem ends, but not if we arent full!
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