EPTBC and RoL: Salem Mafia
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CubEdIn
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What a sunny awesome day. Who do we brutally kill? | ||
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How did I make it thus far? Anyway, I'll try to skim through this and get up to date and vote or something. | ||
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I think Kenpachi is suspicious. If nobody DTs him he can easily fake the medic role all the way to the end. And even if he does get DTed, he could be the Elder Witch. I really don't like this, it's exactly how Pandain got rescued, but better, because Kenpachi can just claim he defended x, y, z, and mafia just not attacking those players. Definitely a bad thing. Also, Dr.H has been playing differently then what I saw so far. At least to a certain extent. I don't know if that's a good thing or not but we'll see anyway. So yeah, no other real suspects other than that. I don't gotta vote or anything right?  | ||
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I'm just saying, I don't really think he's red, but we should not put it aside like people did with Pandain and let him drag on till the end without second-thinking it. | ||
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First I looked at the voting thread and I was like "WTF none of this makes any sense", since I thought I was looking at the Sengoku mafia. ANYWAY. I would vote for Radfield. Mostly because you guys say that he's a good mafia player. I have never played with him before, so I wouldn't know, but the post analysis kinda makes sense. It's a lot of WIFOM, of course, but then again you can't really analyze without going into this area. Basically, since I checked out the voting thread already, I'd have to pick between Radfield and Dr.H. I don't particularly trust DrH at the moment, but since he has a good idea of what (almost) everyone is (and I know a bunch of people claimed to him), then it might be wise to let him live for a bit longer. If he only gets us to lynch greens/blues, then it would be bad for his image. But I don't see why we would lynch him after a ton of people claimed to him. If you've gone down a path, at least see where it leads first. You can't be on both sides of the fence at once rite? RITE? So yeah. Radfield. | ||
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Can BC keep OP updated with Day X/Night X links? It's very very helpful, and will be more so later in the game. At least for me. | ||
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On December 02 2010 23:07 youngminii wrote: I honestly think everyone that's going against Radfield should read the above post, twice, and reconsider your decision. And focus on who? Switch to Dr.H? He currently holds a lot of information on this game. I didn't ask people to claim to him, but they did. Now, we go with the flow. We need to put a little faith into Dr.H, or admit he is Mafia and that he knows most of the blue roles, which means that even if we get him, the town is screwed. Now, also consider the fact that we need someone who will gather up more votes then whoever wants to lynch Dr.H. I doubt this will happen in time. Give the town a better target. Not you in particular, but anyone! | ||
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I started playing yesterday when I found out I wasn't. Also, I did not support DT scan of kenpachi. I just said that we cannot be sure of anything. Which still stands true. I don't really care who DTs who, as long as the town knows about it. | ||
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I know it's a long shot, but if you are not certain of both of MHs bombs, it's pretty much the same thing. And eventually we'll have to take a stab in the dark anyway. Also, one more thing, if we ARE lynching MH, we have to be very accurate about it. We can't have the lynch derail at the last moment and give away info on who the MH is to the mafia. I know this sounds stupid, but I seen it happen with Pandain in Insane. What was supposed to be a very clear lynch got derailed easily because people were not paying enough attention. So. I'm gonna ask mr. jcarlsoniv: You said you spoke to MH and you're both toying with the idea. Do you happen to have a 3rd target? Someone we can be at least 50,01% sure is mafia tonight? After that's been answered, I propose we vote if we lynch the MH or not. | ||
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As for me, I'm not mafia. And if you think I am, then take a look at my posts, out of the few I made, I have mostly tried to help the town NOT lynch Dr.H. That's not proof, true, but if I was a lurking mafia, I wouldn't have drawn attention to myself by protecting him, and then killing him the next night. If mafia would've wanted him dead (which they did, cuz they killed him), they wouldn't have someone try to draw attention from him. I don't know how else I could put this, I really don't want you guys to waste a bomb/lynch on me and lose us the game, after I screwed up at the start by being inactive as well. LOOK INTO MY EYES! WOULD I LIE TO YOU? | ||
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Of course, now we reached the point of no return. We either trust him, or lynch him. There's no middle way :/ So yeah... food for thought. | ||
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Hope you get 99 virgins and stuff! | ||
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On December 08 2010 03:09 kitaman27 wrote: You heard the man, no going back now that he role claimed. If your vote isn't on him then you make yourself a target. What if someone else claims and you two are mafia? Just asking, that would be funny.  | ||
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On December 08 2010 03:29 jcarlsoniv wrote: Why would I tell people to lynch me if I'm mafia? lol First of all, I'm just going into deep WIFOM here, but since you're playing along with the discussion, let's digress! Many reasons! a) Find out who the real MH is (look for the guy with a surprised look on his face that seems to be going "heeeeeeey....") b) Cause a huge shit storm, in case there are 2 MHs claiming. The Mafia will be united, but the town won't. They will no longer know who to trust and votes will be split at least 2-ways (tho, one of them will be the real MHer so no harm there I guess). c) Draw attention to some players while hiding others. A lot can happen if that amount of chaos is ensued. I'm not saying it's a wise move for mafia, It's not. But it would be hella-funny, and not as unreasonable as it sounds. The only real argument against it is that town doesn't have any real leads anyway, so there's no need to push a snowball down the hill. | ||
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And I also knew Radfield was red, when he started panicking at the end. But yeah, I would've guessed Node/Glasse to be #3. GG. | ||
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On December 08 2010 10:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: From what I skimmed, did Jcarlsoniv keep saying his second target was Eii? Because he never actually had a bomb on Eii. You guys didn't do anywhere near enough analysis later on and I don't know why after you lynch the first veteran you didn't move to the second "veteran". Something I learned a few games ago, if you know that one of two people are mafia kill them both. My guess is that youngminii played it badly. He died, he should've taken the other guy with him, since the whole town was going "no way, there's just ONE vet", he was claiming that there are two, when, in fact, he should've been going "fine, but if I'm not red, know that that other guy is prolly GF, take him down". It's a sacrifice, something close to what I was trying to do with L when I was pushed in Insane mafia, and if it would've worked, we'd have had the GF dead. But youngminii managed to convince people that there are 2 vets. /facepalm Also, Dr.H was pushing Radfield a lot, after he died, Rad should've been TOAST. Not even thinking about it, just lynch and forget about it. People should be a lot more ruthless when it comes to Mafia, and should analyze FACTS before posts. If you're relying one lynch on "there is only one veteran", then you better stick with that to the grave. If you're pushing Radfield, and then the next night you die, people should be thinking "maybe there's a connection there". But of course, this is all looking back, so it's easy. I had no clue about any of the other mafia, but Rad & South were kinda obivous. | ||
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On December 08 2010 10:13 Incognito wrote: Not necessarily true. 2 veterans in a game is perfectly reasonable and has been in quite a few setups in the past. In that case, town should've let both live. Killing one based on the fact that there's just one vet, and then letting the other go is dumb. | ||
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On December 08 2010 10:19 Radfield wrote: Lol, classy Cubedin... the ol "I KNEW you were mafia" after the fact  Yes, the reason I fought so hard at the end was to link myself and Eiii irrevocably. If people all of a sudden decided to lynch me at the end, then it would be obvious that Eiii was also mafia, since I would never fight hard against the Mad Hatter lynch unless we were both mafia(since if Eiii was town then I win). + Show Spoiler + At the very end I was pushing Eiii just for the fun of it And yes, I knew the other bomb was on KtheZ, since South told us that. GG everyone Oh come on don't be mean to me. The whole town was pretty much sure you were Mafia, and that's all I stated. It just got more obvious when you were causing a fuss, but as you said, it didn't matter anyway. And I know that ym didn't die just because of that, but I've seen this happen a lot of times: Town bases self on one idea -> something bad happens, people forget about the idea -> time is wasted and game is lost, when following the idea would've been good. I'm just saying, if we committed to something, we should follow through. Just like it was with the Pandain Lynch in Insane. And I never claimed that I'm a good player, but I did comment about our "confirmed green", and I always voted for killing you when you were in the spotlight. So you can't say I'm being whiny. I would've never guessed who ELSE was mafia anyway. | ||
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