• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:24
CEST 14:24
KST 21:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League31Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War1275.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact No more sc2 streamers on team liquid? Server Blocker Terran AddOns placement How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Practice Partners (Official) Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos GG Lan Fest Sofia, Bulgaria [this November] [Recap] Hive ZvZ in MonstarZ vs Dreams
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8087 users

Don't lose yo village! - Page 4

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 41 42 43 Next All
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:12 GMT
#61
btw coag, activity = good. if you keep being inactive you'll create a meta image of yourself being an inactive player normally and when you start being active everyone will point out that meta and lynch you quick.

just don't be scummy i guess
lalala
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 04:18 GMT
#62
Some general unofficial hints and tips for this setup:

Town:
-It might be a good idea for the doctor not to protect anyone night one in case they protect a sacrificing mafia.

-Try and think about a good time to roleclaim, and a good way to do it. Massclaim might not always be the best, but sometimes it can be.

-Every role has its uses, even if they might not be apparent straight away. For example, if you lynch a hunter claim and have him shoot an unhit bulletproof claim, that can verify 2 people with one lynch, as the bullet proof won't die to the first bullet. Another example is a tracker claim tracking a shrink claim. They can then confirm each other by the tracker announcing who the shrink visited.

Mafia:
-Fake claiming roles and counter claiming roles is very important. Even if you get caught out, you have the ability to sacrifice yourself during the night if you don't get lynched that day.

-Use your sacrifice ability very wisely. It is usually best to use it as soon as possible. If there are role claims, it may be likely that the shrink is protecting them.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:22 GMT
#63
On November 12 2010 13:18 deconduo wrote:
For example, if you lynch a hunter claim and have him shoot an unhit bulletproof claim, that can verify 2 people with one lynch, as the bullet proof won't die to the first bullet.

Does this mean people don't flip when they die?

Oh GOD I HATE THESE SETUPS FUCK MY LIFE

/gameface
lalala
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:22 GMT
#64
Doctor, protect yourself night 1 if possible. Same thing as what deconduo said, but chance to prevent a hit

(or if we get a plan going, the tracker)
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 12 2010 04:23 GMT
#65
On November 12 2010 13:22 LSB wrote:
Doctor, protect yourself night 1 if possible. Same thing as what deconduo said, but chance to prevent a hit

(or if we get a plan going, the tracker)

thought you were talking to me when you said doctor >_>
RIP Aaliyah
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 04:26 GMT
#66
On November 12 2010 13:22 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 13:18 deconduo wrote:
For example, if you lynch a hunter claim and have him shoot an unhit bulletproof claim, that can verify 2 people with one lynch, as the bullet proof won't die to the first bullet.

Does this mean people don't flip when they die?

Oh GOD I HATE THESE SETUPS FUCK MY LIFE

/gameface


People do flip when they die. But people can be converted.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 04:28:26
November 12 2010 04:27 GMT
#67
On November 12 2010 13:22 LSB wrote:
Doctor, protect yourself night 1 if possible. Same thing as what deconduo said, but chance to prevent a hit

(or if we get a plan going, the tracker)


Doctor CAN'T protect himself

However shrink CAN shrink himself.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:35 GMT
#68
All right, the biggist issue that people will have with the tracker is fear of a mafia fakeclaim. I'll take care of that shortly

One big issue is if the tracker gets converted, the mafia could easily claim tracker and waste a lynch. I've looked over the town, and I'm confident of their scumhunting abilities

I'm basically scared of mafia taking control of my role and I'd rather deny the mafia a role than allow them to use it.

So I'm going to claim tracker right now.
I am doing this because I want shrink protection, I'll track people that I'll pin down as possible scum.

But what if I'm mafia. Well doctor, you don't have to protect me. In fact, I'd discourage it since I'm claming to deny the mafia an easy lynch.

But what if there is a counterclaim? Well thats an easy way to expose a mafia. Great way to shut down a generating role.

TLDR: I am tracker. Shrink plz protect me
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:42 GMT
#69
Why don't the Doctor and Shrink roleclaim then protect each other?

Scenario A:

Real Doctor and Real Shrink claim and protect each other. All is fine and dandy. Lynch everyone else. Lalala.

Scenario B:

Real Doctor and Real Shrink claims, but Fake Doctor counterclaims. Tracker watches Fake Doctor, Shrink protects Fake Doctor, Real Doctor protects Shrink and Fake Doctor 'protects' Real Doctor. If Fake Doctor doesn't make a move, Tracker claims and Fake Doctor gets lynched. If Fake Doctor does, converted fellow dies. Worst case, one for one.

Scenario C:

Real Doctor and Real Shrink claims, but Fake Doctor counterclaims. Tracker watches Real Doctor, Real Doctor protects Fake Doctor, Fake Doctor 'protects' Shrink, Shrink protects Real Doctor. Either way, Real Doctor is confirmed, Shrink might get converted but we can just have the Tracker watch the Shrink the next day and see what happens. Worst case, one for one.

Scenario D:

Real Doctor and Real Shrink claims, but Fake Shrink counterclaims. Tracker watches Fake Shrink, Fake Shrink protects Real Doctor, Real Doctor protects Real Shrink, Real Shrink protects Fake Shrink. Same deal, if Fake Shrink doesn't make a move he's dead, if he does he's dead and the converted dude is dead. Worst case, one for one.

Scenario E:

Same deal as Scenario C.

Scenario F:

Real Doctor and Real Shrink claims. Fake Doctor and Fake Shrink counterclaims. Shrink protects themselves while Doctors do not protect. Watcher watches the Shrinks. If he gets the Fake Shrink, one scum down. If he gets the Real Shrink, we have a confirmed Shrink and the Fake Shrink dies anyway. As for the Doctor, if Fake Doctor converts Real Doctor then we're in a worst case situation with one Shrink and one Red. Worthwhile imo.

Read it over, think about it.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:43 GMT
#70
Say /yes if you agree with the above plan.

If we get 7 /yes (2 taken out from mafia) we'll go ahead with it. If not, oh well we'll play like civilised gentlemen.
lalala
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:46 GMT
#71
Shrink and doctor claim, mafia can mindcontrol the shrink. No one is comfirmed except for the doctor.

It is a good idea on how to deal with counterclaims. It could be useful if mafia trys to counterclaim me
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:47 GMT
#72
Wait if Shrink and Doctor claim and there's no counterclaim, they can keep protecting each other and mafia won't be able to mindcontrol anyone.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:47 GMT
#73
EBWOP: I mean mafia won't be able to mindcontrol either of them.
lalala
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 12 2010 04:48 GMT
#74
and the mafia will just circumvent that by mindcontrolling everyone else lol
RIP Aaliyah
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
November 12 2010 04:49 GMT
#75
On November 12 2010 13:47 youngminii wrote:
EBWOP: I mean mafia won't be able to mindcontrol either of them.


What stops mafia from MCing the shrink, if he protects the doctor?
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:49 GMT
#76
Doctor doesn't protect against mafia mc.

Btw I claimed tracker
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:51 GMT
#77
oh okay

i'm an idiot

i was under the assumption that the mind control IS mafia kp

ignore everything i said before this post kthx
lalala
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:54 GMT
#78
I feel ignored
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 04:57 GMT
#79
On November 12 2010 13:54 LSB wrote:
I feel ignored

I forgot to mention that you have a secret role that makes your posts invisible to everyone else.
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
November 12 2010 05:05 GMT
#80
On November 12 2010 13:49 LSB wrote:
Doctor doesn't protect against mafia mc.

Btw I claimed tracker


So since you claimed tracker, it is probably not a good idea for anyone else to roleclaim. This is because this leaves 2 people open for MC/hit. Then, the doctor will be at a loss as to who to protect, same for the shrink.

You know what I just noticed? If there was someone i WANTED the mafia to MC, I would say the shrink. It makes sense, because since the mafia used a MC, the shrink's usefulness decreases anyway.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 41 42 43 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
Not-Summer Championship
WardiTV566
TaKeTV 222
TKL 217
IndyStarCraft 204
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19:00
Weekly #151 (SHIN Mod Edition)
ByuN vs SHINLIVE!
herO vs TBD
ByuN447
CranKy Ducklings144
SHIN 31
CranKy Ducklings SOOP17
LiquipediaDiscussion
AI Arena Tournament
01:00
Swiss - Round 6
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 447
TKL 217
IndyStarCraft 204
SHIN 31
MindelVK 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 49033
Calm 4496
EffOrt 611
Horang2 580
Soma 535
Mini 488
firebathero 433
Stork 390
actioN 342
Soulkey 270
[ Show more ]
BeSt 254
Hyuk 193
Last 173
Snow 149
Zeus 141
Leta 113
Hyun 82
Free 81
Sharp 80
ggaemo 72
Pusan 55
hero 51
Sea.KH 47
ToSsGirL 46
Shinee 44
PianO 38
HiyA 28
Sexy 23
Killer 21
Sacsri 19
Yoon 18
JYJ 18
Bishop 15
Hm[arnc] 14
yabsab 10
Dota 2
XaKoH 489
420jenkins157
Counter-Strike
x6flipin319
Other Games
singsing2248
B2W.Neo1212
Khaldor222
DeMusliM206
crisheroes159
Fuzer 68
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 17
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4247
• WagamamaTV780
• lizZardDota2204
Upcoming Events
OSC
36m
IPSL
3h 36m
BSL Open Qualifier
6h 36m
WardiTV Weekly
22h 36m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 22h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
FEL
5 days
[ Show More ]
FEL
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.