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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:12 GMT
#61
btw coag, activity = good. if you keep being inactive you'll create a meta image of yourself being an inactive player normally and when you start being active everyone will point out that meta and lynch you quick.

just don't be scummy i guess
lalala
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 04:18 GMT
#62
Some general unofficial hints and tips for this setup:

Town:
-It might be a good idea for the doctor not to protect anyone night one in case they protect a sacrificing mafia.

-Try and think about a good time to roleclaim, and a good way to do it. Massclaim might not always be the best, but sometimes it can be.

-Every role has its uses, even if they might not be apparent straight away. For example, if you lynch a hunter claim and have him shoot an unhit bulletproof claim, that can verify 2 people with one lynch, as the bullet proof won't die to the first bullet. Another example is a tracker claim tracking a shrink claim. They can then confirm each other by the tracker announcing who the shrink visited.

Mafia:
-Fake claiming roles and counter claiming roles is very important. Even if you get caught out, you have the ability to sacrifice yourself during the night if you don't get lynched that day.

-Use your sacrifice ability very wisely. It is usually best to use it as soon as possible. If there are role claims, it may be likely that the shrink is protecting them.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:22 GMT
#63
On November 12 2010 13:18 deconduo wrote:
For example, if you lynch a hunter claim and have him shoot an unhit bulletproof claim, that can verify 2 people with one lynch, as the bullet proof won't die to the first bullet.

Does this mean people don't flip when they die?

Oh GOD I HATE THESE SETUPS FUCK MY LIFE

/gameface
lalala
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:22 GMT
#64
Doctor, protect yourself night 1 if possible. Same thing as what deconduo said, but chance to prevent a hit

(or if we get a plan going, the tracker)
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 12 2010 04:23 GMT
#65
On November 12 2010 13:22 LSB wrote:
Doctor, protect yourself night 1 if possible. Same thing as what deconduo said, but chance to prevent a hit

(or if we get a plan going, the tracker)

thought you were talking to me when you said doctor >_>
RIP Aaliyah
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 04:26 GMT
#66
On November 12 2010 13:22 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 13:18 deconduo wrote:
For example, if you lynch a hunter claim and have him shoot an unhit bulletproof claim, that can verify 2 people with one lynch, as the bullet proof won't die to the first bullet.

Does this mean people don't flip when they die?

Oh GOD I HATE THESE SETUPS FUCK MY LIFE

/gameface


People do flip when they die. But people can be converted.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 04:28:26
November 12 2010 04:27 GMT
#67
On November 12 2010 13:22 LSB wrote:
Doctor, protect yourself night 1 if possible. Same thing as what deconduo said, but chance to prevent a hit

(or if we get a plan going, the tracker)


Doctor CAN'T protect himself

However shrink CAN shrink himself.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:35 GMT
#68
All right, the biggist issue that people will have with the tracker is fear of a mafia fakeclaim. I'll take care of that shortly

One big issue is if the tracker gets converted, the mafia could easily claim tracker and waste a lynch. I've looked over the town, and I'm confident of their scumhunting abilities

I'm basically scared of mafia taking control of my role and I'd rather deny the mafia a role than allow them to use it.

So I'm going to claim tracker right now.
I am doing this because I want shrink protection, I'll track people that I'll pin down as possible scum.

But what if I'm mafia. Well doctor, you don't have to protect me. In fact, I'd discourage it since I'm claming to deny the mafia an easy lynch.

But what if there is a counterclaim? Well thats an easy way to expose a mafia. Great way to shut down a generating role.

TLDR: I am tracker. Shrink plz protect me
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:42 GMT
#69
Why don't the Doctor and Shrink roleclaim then protect each other?

Scenario A:

Real Doctor and Real Shrink claim and protect each other. All is fine and dandy. Lynch everyone else. Lalala.

Scenario B:

Real Doctor and Real Shrink claims, but Fake Doctor counterclaims. Tracker watches Fake Doctor, Shrink protects Fake Doctor, Real Doctor protects Shrink and Fake Doctor 'protects' Real Doctor. If Fake Doctor doesn't make a move, Tracker claims and Fake Doctor gets lynched. If Fake Doctor does, converted fellow dies. Worst case, one for one.

Scenario C:

Real Doctor and Real Shrink claims, but Fake Doctor counterclaims. Tracker watches Real Doctor, Real Doctor protects Fake Doctor, Fake Doctor 'protects' Shrink, Shrink protects Real Doctor. Either way, Real Doctor is confirmed, Shrink might get converted but we can just have the Tracker watch the Shrink the next day and see what happens. Worst case, one for one.

Scenario D:

Real Doctor and Real Shrink claims, but Fake Shrink counterclaims. Tracker watches Fake Shrink, Fake Shrink protects Real Doctor, Real Doctor protects Real Shrink, Real Shrink protects Fake Shrink. Same deal, if Fake Shrink doesn't make a move he's dead, if he does he's dead and the converted dude is dead. Worst case, one for one.

Scenario E:

Same deal as Scenario C.

Scenario F:

Real Doctor and Real Shrink claims. Fake Doctor and Fake Shrink counterclaims. Shrink protects themselves while Doctors do not protect. Watcher watches the Shrinks. If he gets the Fake Shrink, one scum down. If he gets the Real Shrink, we have a confirmed Shrink and the Fake Shrink dies anyway. As for the Doctor, if Fake Doctor converts Real Doctor then we're in a worst case situation with one Shrink and one Red. Worthwhile imo.

Read it over, think about it.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:43 GMT
#70
Say /yes if you agree with the above plan.

If we get 7 /yes (2 taken out from mafia) we'll go ahead with it. If not, oh well we'll play like civilised gentlemen.
lalala
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:46 GMT
#71
Shrink and doctor claim, mafia can mindcontrol the shrink. No one is comfirmed except for the doctor.

It is a good idea on how to deal with counterclaims. It could be useful if mafia trys to counterclaim me
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:47 GMT
#72
Wait if Shrink and Doctor claim and there's no counterclaim, they can keep protecting each other and mafia won't be able to mindcontrol anyone.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:47 GMT
#73
EBWOP: I mean mafia won't be able to mindcontrol either of them.
lalala
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 12 2010 04:48 GMT
#74
and the mafia will just circumvent that by mindcontrolling everyone else lol
RIP Aaliyah
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
November 12 2010 04:49 GMT
#75
On November 12 2010 13:47 youngminii wrote:
EBWOP: I mean mafia won't be able to mindcontrol either of them.


What stops mafia from MCing the shrink, if he protects the doctor?
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:49 GMT
#76
Doctor doesn't protect against mafia mc.

Btw I claimed tracker
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:51 GMT
#77
oh okay

i'm an idiot

i was under the assumption that the mind control IS mafia kp

ignore everything i said before this post kthx
lalala
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:54 GMT
#78
I feel ignored
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 04:57 GMT
#79
On November 12 2010 13:54 LSB wrote:
I feel ignored

I forgot to mention that you have a secret role that makes your posts invisible to everyone else.
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
November 12 2010 05:05 GMT
#80
On November 12 2010 13:49 LSB wrote:
Doctor doesn't protect against mafia mc.

Btw I claimed tracker


So since you claimed tracker, it is probably not a good idea for anyone else to roleclaim. This is because this leaves 2 people open for MC/hit. Then, the doctor will be at a loss as to who to protect, same for the shrink.

You know what I just noticed? If there was someone i WANTED the mafia to MC, I would say the shrink. It makes sense, because since the mafia used a MC, the shrink's usefulness decreases anyway.
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