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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 19 2010 10:58 Pandain wrote: Point taken. However, then obviously no one was converted. So you're still lying, eh? Either that or spouting stuff which has nothing to do with what your talking about. Pandain, if noone was converted, the game would have ended. Its really obvious you're mafia. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 19 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote: Man frickin use your mind. No one was converted because glasse is mafia. Let me lay this out for you. Night two:Glasse mc's coag coag protects glasse Kenpachi fails to convert me, dies. Glasse gets coag lynched so then he can get to late game basically confirmed and get me lynched. Night three they hit lsb because they can't let him reveal that glasse is mafia. omfg That reasoning is extremely far-fetched. Are you telling me that coag would rather protect a RANDOM person than LSB, who had claimed? Kenpachi visiting you before he committed suicide is enough proof its you. Although Glasse, I'd like to note that both mafia ARE able to MC on the same day  | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 19 2010 11:41 KtheZ wrote: That reasoning is extremely far-fetched. Are you telling me that coag would rather protect a RANDOM person than LSB, who had claimed? Kenpachi visiting you before he committed suicide is enough proof its you. Although Glasse, I'd like to note that both mafia ARE able to MC on the same day Wait this isnt even RIGHT. Coag was shown to be YAKUZA (there probably would be a diff name if he was a converted person) | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
Plus, if you really were yourself, why would you conveniently decide to protect yourself when it was vital that LSB remain town? In fact, didnt you read my posts in the beginning that it probably is better for shrink to get MCed rather than doctor or detective? | ||
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KtheZ
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 19 2010 11:55 Pandain wrote: I've already explained this. I was pretty likely to be MCED(had caught kenpachi, most likely they wouldn't LSB because they would figure he would be protected like the first night) in addition, it isn't good for shrink to be mced. it's better than tracker or doctor. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
Also, you're spamming like INSANE, like how you did in INSANE mafia. Either you're greedily trying to increase your post count or you are just trying to clutter up the already long message board, noticing that I (and other people) sometimes neglect to read long ass walls of text. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 19 2010 12:26 Pandain wrote: I'm fuckin spamming because I'm about to die. And I always spam anyways, ask anyone. It's something I'm working on, but me about to die certainly doesn't help. so is that your argument? The first sentence has been proven irrelevant, as that assumes I am lying. so circular reasoning, I'm lying because I'm lying. How the hell has the first sentence been proven irrelevant? The fact that kenpachi visited you when you died is the greatest piece of evidence of all. It outweighs all other pieces of evidence and puts a absofuckinglutely HUGE FoS on you. An absofuckinglutely HUGE FoS. And you're trying to explain how we are left with 1 mafia left, who is glasse, and explaining this through an intricate explanation of how coag protect glasse (for no reason at all), and then glasse converts coag, and kenpachi fails in conversion, and then we are left with 2 mafia again? I find the probability of this extremely low. What I find to be more probably is you lying. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 19 2010 12:35 Pandain wrote: You assume that proves I'm mafia because I'm not shrink. But if I'm not shrink, I'm mafia. So your using circular reasoning to prove that. again, I protected myself. Seriously KtheZ... I assume you are mafia because kenpachi visited you. I believe much more that you WERE converted rather than believe the whole chain of events that you say led up to the situation now. Nothing you say is verifiable, but looking at the only solid piece of evidence we have, that kenpachi DID visit you when he committed suicide, puts the FoS on you. I don't need your condescending remarks to tell me who to vote for. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
Your hundreds of dropped arguments, as well as you unrelentless and hypocritical hounding of Glasse to prove himself when you silently drop many arguments made against you, make me think you are mafia. Glasse voted for mafia both times. Would a mafia really bus his allies TWICE? | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
I will not unvote you now. Day doesnt even end till you vote, so you have plenty of time to explain yourself, but take this word of warning: My mafia senses are tingling! | ||
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KtheZ
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KtheZ
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I'll take the next 25 mins to read through the posting and tell myself which one of you are mafia. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
instead of posting nice, long analysis and having insightful posts (which he did before kenpachi), pandain instead turn to tons UPON TONS OF POSTS that flooded pages and were designed only to assault glasse. Plus, I noticed something. Coag first voted for pandain, but unvoted and changed instead to Glasse on page 26. Yup, I'm convinced its pandain. really sorry man, if i'm wrong. Lets stop debating and see the results. Glasse, lets do this. ##Vote pandain | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
I don't trust your debate too much, although I do put it into consideration. The reason I don't really enjoy the debate you guys had is that it was far, FAR too hard to follow. As much as I enjoy reading these forums, reading your debate and then having to search for a huge amount of posts really takes away from the analysis that I can produce. These are several pro town posts glasse has had that you ignored. shouldnt the town also have a copy then? it would help a lot with this clam thing In this quote, he is asking for deconduo for the town to have the role pm list also, instead of just mafia. This is a pro-town action. can you really vote for no one? also i would not do that, it makes it much easier to manipulate a vote for mafia if over half of the town doesnt even vote Warns town against no-lynch daytimes, in concurrence with Dr.H (who was town) and other people. Seems pro-town, but mafia also advocated this, so this i'll call neutral. Another thing I have to note: Votes: No Lynch (3) KtheZ LSB kenpachi Dr. H (2) youngminii Coagulation Pandain (1) Dr. H Kenpachi (1) Glasse Coagulation (1) Artanis Yet to vote: Pandain Voting ends in just under 8 hours. To clarify some more voting rules: -The person with the most votes will get lynched (not the majority, sorry). This includes 'No One' -If there is a tie, then no one will be lynched. Glasse voted kenpachi when there were 3 people voting No-vote, ans 0 votes weres on youngminii. However, youngminii actually was lynched. Glasse voted for kenpachi when there was no definitive evidence pointing at anyone, but then a bandwagon formed out of nowhere and hit youngminii. Glasse's vote DID matter, in fact. Him voting a mafia that early was a pro-town indication, since no mafia would vote for themselves when NOBODY HAD VOTED FOR ANYONE ELSE YET. I dont understand how you can call his vote irrelevant, when it could have made a HUGE difference, because he was right. In fact, this then happened Votes: No Lynch (3) KtheZ LSB kenpachi Dr. H (2) youngminii Coagulation Kenpachi (2) Pandain Glasse Coagulation (1) Artanis Youngminii (1) Dr. H And kenpachi was one of the leading figures for lynch, yet once again somehow youngminii was lynched with 1 vote. What I'm trying to say is that Glasse voting for kenpachi actually IS indicative of his pro-town status, and it actually DID matter in the lynch process. Had glasse voted kenpachi at the last second, then I would have considered it a bus, but since he voted him in the very beginning, it is not. End result: youngminii (4) <----- SOMEHOW GAINED 3 VOTES Coagulation Dr. H kenpachi LSB kenpachi (2) Pandain Glasse Coagulation (1) Artanis Dr. H (1) youngminii No Lynch (1) kthez And this is what bugs me the most. You said that from this i just dont have anything important to say :3 SORRY! He was obviously pro-mafia, but if you would read maybe 1 or 2 posts after: i think drh is trying much harder than i've ever seen him which makes me believe hes trying to hide something. He DID contribute. This MAY be continued. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 20 2010 13:23 Pandain wrote: If KtheZ realizes your mafia, then even if he unvotes it'll be 1v1. Dude, its not about winning or losing the game. It's about setting yourself in the future. It's called busing, it happens all the time. you denying that just makes it all the more obvious. KtheZ, I have one request of you. For now, unvote me, so I can vote glasse safely. Than I plead you, I beg of you, to actually read everything,and I know, I know somehow deep in my heart that you'll see my side. I don't care if it seems hopeless, I have faith, because I know I'm right. But right now, even if you do see, then you can't change the outcome. That's why I want you to unvote me, and finally, after thinking it through well, vote. But now it seems it'll just be impossible, so that's why I'm pleading you. You do realize that is kind of play puts extreme pressure on me right? Let's just end this game and see if you really are mafia. I'm not buying it, and I do not wish to change the decision that I have made for myself. Seriously man, pleading is unreasonable at this point in the game. There is no reason for me to unvote if i'm just going to vote for you again. (Which i just did) I did read the debate, but I still feel that the mafia is you. I have thought it through well, and I feel that trying to make me feel emotional about my actions will not change my mind. This may be sort of a dickmove, but with all seriousness, asking me to be empathetic in this topic is kind of useless, since seriously, it could all be a mafia ploy for all I know. I am not being stubborn. I have read through all the posts and I have chosen you. Simply saying that since I did not change my vote, I am stubborn, is wrong. Look, I'm really sorry if you're town, and I AM a simple noob who is playing his second game, but right now I feel that it is you, and I have heeded your words and read through what you have asked me to. I still think its you. Even with this emotional outburst trying to make me feel bad, I still think its you. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
Votes locked means we cant change it right? | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
Mindfucked right now. | ||
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