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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 15 2010 03:17 GMT
#241

I knew I would regret it.
Yet now if i withdraw vote I look scummy
But again, who else do you think is a good lynch?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 15 2010 03:18 GMT
#242
On November 15 2010 12:17 Pandain wrote:

I knew I would regret it.
Yet now if i withdraw vote I look scummy
But again, who else do you think is a good lynch?

well

you look like scum to me
coagulation is our worst player
i don't trust glasse's inactivity and iirc he made a kinda bad scummy post on me but that could have been in kingmaker, i don't exactly remember
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 15 2010 03:19 GMT
#243
glasse wasn't even in kingmaker so it was in this game
RIP Aaliyah
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 15 2010 03:28 GMT
#244
On November 15 2010 12:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 12:17 Pandain wrote:

I knew I would regret it.
Yet now if i withdraw vote I look scummy
But again, who else do you think is a good lynch?

well

you look like scum to me
coagulation is our worst player
i don't trust glasse's inactivity and iirc he made a kinda bad scummy post on me but that could have been in kingmaker, i don't exactly remember

I don't think Pandain is scum. He isn't doing the stupid "I'm going to take out Doctor H through lynching!". He did back off, so it's his strange idea of 'pressuring'. I don't think it's much different from his normal play.

Coag, we're all counting on better play from you this game. Can you put a bit more thought into your posts. Like understanding whether something is actually town favored or mafia favored? I don't want to resort to lynching you because you "the worst player"
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 15 2010 03:28 GMT
#245
Guys, I couldn't claim to be calm/clam as I was not confirmed yet. If I did, people could have thought I was mafia. If I thought I was viewed as confirmed already I would've considered it though, it crossed my mind before posting.

That said, a summary of the previous three pages:
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I would actually consider Pandain's withdrawal less scummy rather than more. From his play in insane mafia he just likes choosing a target and going through with it regardless. He's not doing that here which makes me less inclined to believe he's mafia.

Regarding the lynch: Not lynching anyone seems rather counterintuitive to me. It means no chance to hit a mafia and we're basically just giving them another day when we have no kp at night. If we have no real suspects, I'd say Coagulation is a good bet given that his play in previous games has been poor which means that if he's town, we will not have lost that much. I'm worried about the inactivity of Glasse as well though, and Kenpachi has been flying under the radar too. For now I'm going to leave my vote here but will consider changing to either one of those barring unforeseen developments.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 15 2010 03:36 GMT
#246
##Unvote Dr. H
I just hope you really aren't mafia haha.

Hmm.... I'll wait for more people talking before voting again.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 15 2010 03:36 GMT
#247
##Unvote Dr. H
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 15 2010 03:39 GMT
#248
I disagree. Maybe he learned his lesson not to be so tenacious after Insane Mafia (since I told him in PM that in future games when he is losing a bandwagon/argument as mafia he should just back off and go with the flow of the town)

doesn't clear him in the slightest
RIP Aaliyah
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 15 2010 03:47 GMT
#249
Regarding the lynch.

I believe that Pandain, Coagulation, Glasse, and Kenpachi are all playing like normal. The issue is whether or not we should peruse a policy lynch. Whether or not we should lynch people because they are acting like scum.

Things to consider. I can track one of the four people mentioned. That could verify a player, one way for us to doge using a policy lynch.

Normally I'd suggest against a policy lynch. However, there have been no major 'slipups' day 1. Except for Pandain, but that's normal for him.
If we are going to actually go for a policy lynch, I am against policy lynching Pandain and Coagulation
Pandain actually tries to do stuff, and he has moments.
I know/think that Coag actually tries, so I'd rather not lynch him. Addressed to Coag: if you want to get better, maybe you can bounce ideas off of someone else who isn't playing the game?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 15 2010 03:48 GMT
#250
Playing like "normal" doesn't mean you can't be scum

I feel Pandain is playing like scum. I feel that Glasse isn't playing like normal. There is no "normal" for Glasse because there is no meta read on him whatsoever
RIP Aaliyah
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 15 2010 03:51 GMT
#251
about glasse
I dont think i have seen him do anything that would draw attention to him but that might be exactly what hes trying to do.
from the 2 games i have played with him he is generally very outgoing and jokes alot and has very little worries about what town thinks about him.
he hasnt done that at all this game. mostly inactive at this point.

about kenpachi
He hasnt really contributed much but from what i remember he doesnt post at all in any of the other games unless someone is actually actively trying to get him lynched or what not. so i dont see any significant warning signs in him laying low but i think we really need to get him talking.

about pandain pushing doch
I wouldnt be too suprised to find out one of them are red. but im a little confused why pandain would back down and ask drh who he thinks a good lynch right after doch got done writing a half page analysis on why he thinks pandain is scum and then votes pandain. i dont know what to make of that. is it scummy? i dont know. is it weird. yes.



LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 15 2010 03:51 GMT
#252
On November 15 2010 12:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Playing like "normal" doesn't mean you can't be scum

I feel Pandain is playing like scum. I feel that Glasse isn't playing like normal. There is no "normal" for Glasse because there is no meta read on him whatsoever

Yes, I know that playing like 'normal' doesn't mean that they are town.
What I'm saying is that normal analysis isn't going to apply to people who don't play normally.
I could never read people like Divinek/Bill Murray, because they both seemed scummy to me all the time.

As for Glasse, I'd be willing to lynch him, because to him, playing like normal means to make cat sounds and not much else.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 15 2010 03:54 GMT
#253
Oh yeah.

Don't you think if Coagulation was mafia, his partner would have forced him to convert someone else day one?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 15 2010 03:54 GMT
#254
Pandain started off playing the same way he was as mafia but he backed off when it was clear he couldn't get me lynched, something I advised him to do as mafia in the future

no way is he cleared

glasse played quietly and helpfully in haunted mafia, insanely and wildly in insane mafia, so there is really no way of knowing how he plays as mafia, he's never been mafia.
RIP Aaliyah
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 15 2010 03:54 GMT
#255
On November 15 2010 12:47 LSB wrote:
Regarding the lynch.

I believe that Pandain, Coagulation, Glasse, and Kenpachi are all playing like normal. The issue is whether or not we should peruse a policy lynch. Whether or not we should lynch people because they are acting like scum.

Things to consider. I can track one of the four people mentioned. That could verify a player, one way for us to doge using a policy lynch.

Normally I'd suggest against a policy lynch. However, there have been no major 'slipups' day 1. Except for Pandain, but that's normal for him.
If we are going to actually go for a policy lynch, I am against policy lynching Pandain and Coagulation
Pandain actually tries to do stuff, and he has moments.
I know/think that Coag actually tries, so I'd rather not lynch him. Addressed to Coag: if you want to get better, maybe you can bounce ideas off of someone else who isn't playing the game?



i will be the first to admit i am very inexperienced. i will be playing in mafia boot camp and hopefully refining my ability to contribute to town more efficiently.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 15 2010 03:54 GMT
#256
On November 15 2010 12:54 LSB wrote:
Oh yeah.

Don't you think if Coagulation was mafia, his partner would have forced him to convert someone else day one?

yeah, good point. i sure as hell would.
RIP Aaliyah
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 15 2010 06:15 GMT
#257
Dont you think if i was mafia i would of converted someone day 1 just from the fact that im bouncing off the lynch coag day 1 bullshit from kingmaker mafia. Im not stupid and neither is mafia. I was well aware that i would be dealing wth the same shit in this game. plus now its magnified more because now im the easiest target for them to go after without leaving a scum trail.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 15 2010 09:38 GMT
#258
##Vote No one
Reading through the thread.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 15 2010 09:44 GMT
#259
Okay right now I think Pandain is not scum. Basically it all boils down to the fact that he went against no lynch. Now, the lynch is the town's most important weapon for two reasons. One is it allows you to kill someone. Two is because of the activity and discussion it generates. These two reasons mean a lynch should never be passed up UNLESS there's a specific scenario that benefits the town by not lynching (ie. 2 scum and 4 town, if there's a mislynch then town loses but if you abstain then you get to live another day with 2 scum and 3 town).

In that light:
Vote DoctorHelvetica
My vote is based on the fact that in Insane Mafia he was so adamant about defending himself against all of Pandain's silly accusations yet in this game he just fires right back at Pandain.
metagame ftw
lalala
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 15 2010 11:54 GMT
#260
On November 15 2010 12:51 Coagulation wrote:
about glasse
I dont think i have seen him do anything that would draw attention to him but that might be exactly what hes trying to do.
from the 2 games i have played with him he is generally very outgoing and jokes alot and has very little worries about what town thinks about him.
he hasnt done that at all this game. mostly inactive at this point.




sorry :3
don't worry though, now i will be bored in class all week and act as retarded as usual.
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