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Assassin In The Palace
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On November 06 2010 03:41 Fishball wrote:seRapH pretty much just listed the sure win scenario. (I never read the rules until I saw HeavOnEarth's post up top) The key point here, is all Bodyguards knows who their king is. This can be abused so hard. Aside from the King, the Assassin is the only real one looking for information. The Bodyguards don't need to find out who each other are, and they don't need to talk, as in to "generate" discussion. If no one talks, the Assassin gets nothing. All he can do is to pick a target and hit randomly. Also, this "plan" will still work, even if bodyguards do NOT know who their King is. Basically, no one in the game needs to talk, at all. Whoever tries to fish, bam, your assassin. In a slight response, I think your idea is strong, but it will never happen, and it already got shat to shit. Also, remember that Assassin - You are the Assassin. At any point in the game you can PM me the name of the person you want to kill. You can only kill once and if you do not kill the king with your one hit, you will lose the game. Your goal is to determine who the king is and kill him before you get lynched. If you get lynched, you will have a chance to put in a hit before you die. Your win condition takes precedence over the bodyguards/king win condition. Anytime. BGs have to be careful how they respond, one chink in the chain and assasin has his job half done. Obviously BGs can confuse, but that would make us lean toward lynching this BG out of necessity. For instance, assasin knows this meapak will not be the king. There is no PM coordination and 3 people have already voted him. Of course we will kill him now, but we do need to watch who is voting what. The BGs have to be a little bit more discreet. I respect meapak's willingness to die, but he has to know that every time a BG dies, the assasin increases his chances. We want to get him lynched early BECAUSE HE WILL ALWAYS HAVE A CHANCE TO KILL. He just sends the PM before then and he gets a kill. Fairly certain everyone who voted already is a BG, or else a very clever or bold assasin is amoung them. | ||
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On November 06 2010 13:21 orgolove wrote: As DrH mentioned, staying silent will completely take the fun out of the game. Though that is the "optimum" strategy, the host wants interaction. So we give him interaction... Of course, but completely straying from the general idea is just being obnoxious. You don't need to create scenes in mafia, it just happens. But I guess you guys are all the drama we need so, have fun with that split vote that already gives alot of info. I'll be keeping to myself. | ||
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Darth seems like a solid vote I like your reasoning with everything else. And there is not much detail we should be going into as we only give more information, but more people need to just give their thought, because I'm not having an assasin sit back this game with his arms crossed. And there are no inactives. HOHOHO | ||
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Hopefully I don't have to go into too much detail why this is smart. | ||
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On November 08 2010 15:56 Bereft wrote: Really? I insist that you do if you are going to vote for me. Because by the time I flip over not assassin, your explanation will be worthless to me by then :/. I don't expect you to know and that's all I have to say on this  | ||
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On November 09 2010 14:25 Node wrote: I dunno orgolove, I'm inclined to base any analysis on this game alone rather than on activity in past games -- the nature of this variation is quite different from traditional mafia, and nothing's stopping people from acting differently on a game-by-game basis. That in mind, I'd like to present an analysis of youngminii's posts in this game: His first game-related post is a contentless vote jumping on the Meapak bandwagon. I shouldn't have to explain why this is the kind of behavior we should be looking out for. His second post pushes for being more active and promoting discussion. I could go either way on this post. He could be a bodyguard honestly wanting to reduce the chances of the assassin being successful. He could also be the assassin attempting to get discussion going so that he could more easily get the king out in the open. This was in response to me, and I too was a little suspicious, but I think that the attempts of youngminii in getting the king in the open were not intended. Here he defends orgolove. This post doesn't really tell us one way or the other whether he's red. Yes, an assassin doing an analysis on anyone is fairly risky, but it's also easy for the assassin to say that. This post is helpful as he explains that anyone who starts voting for the king is expected to be assassin, BUT MUST BE HANDLED DELICATELY. A very good point if it is not a BG making a gambit vote. He posts saying that he didn't accuse Darth (truthfully), and that he was going to defend him, which never happened. He hasn't posted since, and never voted in the second day. Youngminii is really shifty in my books. I think if we lynch him, worst-case scenario we get rid of a non-contributor, and best-case scenario we kill the assassin. I'm still not sold on Darth being innocent, but in the end I think there are better suspects right now. Isn't darth dead? I think you are a little slow on the uptake with that one  .##Vote Youngminii Otherwise I like your analysis, but I feel there are better suspects that I will get into later. But I made a mistake with Bereft guys. There is a way you handle truly suspicious people if you are thinking a certain way. You can't let them know that you have suspicions that day, but the BG's must kill that person the next day for silent reasons. If bereft was the assassin, we might have lost the game right then and there, but everyone kept their heads and we killed him without exposing much. I think if we can hold our heads again in the next dilemma, we should have a good chance of killing the assassin and giving our king more of a chance. | ||
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I have a weird feeling about orgo. I know he did start a lynch, but a 1 in 9 shot is pretty good odds. But more so then him his coagulation. I do not feel comfortable keeping him alive, but he is being a expectedly silly bodyguard or a very bold and risky assassin. I did not notice his 'king revealing posts' but such things usually get reprimanded. But meapak has been setting off warning bells for me. I can't take the time out now, but when I come back I expect some posts like Node's on nearly everyone, including myself. | ||
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On November 11 2010 15:05 Coagulation wrote: no the best way to scumhunt is to have the king pushing suspicions and perpetrating himself as a red to make assassin slip. our king is our most valuable asset here and has been 100% useless. FUNK OFF CANT. Our king has already won us the game. He's got a fool proof plan that a lot of bodyguards caught on. He will initial a victorious march over the assassin's grave in due time. Slightly ironic for you of all people to call the king useless, you foggot. | ||
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On November 12 2010 03:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hey he also replaced consonants, that must count for something. It's a secret code. That only coagulation needs to decipher. | ||
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Let's just hope the assassin doesn't try to lynch me. But if he wants to kill me, then he can go right ahead. | ||
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On November 13 2010 05:43 Coagulation wrote: i dont understand why you would lynch me if you know who the assassin is. lynching me would only increase the chances he hits the king in the case he takes a random shot. But is it random coag? Maybe we are better off lynching you first to throw him off. Very well, I suppose there is no more use hiding it. Time to choose Node. ##Vote Node | ||
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I think if node doesn't pop assasin, it's pretty clear that young is it. Looking back now, node did start a lynch against young, which would be a very risky move for assassin to do. I don't believe young has started any lynches, but he has been speaking his mind when he needed too. I don't really get strong vibes from anyone else, and node's posts have been wishy-washy other then that one post. Makes me wonder... COME ON VOTE I WANT TO SEE... | ||
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On November 15 2010 05:09 Coagulation wrote: ##vote node if hes blue bum is a deadman I will start the lynch myself! | ||
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Great job node, you held out very well in the early game, and made the right move when you needed to. I hope it wasn't me that immediately gave you young's number -_- SORRY DARTH LOL, we needed to burn a lynch before node. I was hoping that someone would come after me for voting you after node voted young, so it would seem like you were king and I was assassin. Then maybe node would see it as a BG gambit to give the 'darth' king less notice. I would have played along, but there was no way to convey that idea to the other BG's.  On November 15 2010 12:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Node PM'd me day 1 promising not to read the code. It was no ones fault. It was pretty clear that the reason Node was bandwagoned was attacking youngminii. Town needed to wait longer to fool Node into thinking he was being lynched for something else. It was so far into the game already that I wasn't confident that 3 or 2 of the last BGs could pull it off, since we had already stumbled so far. I was hoping with a still large pool of players and confident posting that maybe node might get unsure... FAILURE | ||
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