Sengoku Mafia - Page 58

On November 23 2010 04:22 Ace wrote:
I defended Hessmyrr because you guys never had a good reason for lynching him. Your Day 1 lynch was a farce "because you misread the rules". I defended Hessmyrr Day 1 proving that your reasons for lynching him was terrible.

Day 2? Same thing.

No one ever proved Hessmyrr was Scum. I asked like 50 times "why is Hessmyrr scum?" but you never could. So how is my defense of him scummy?

Also I've got another thing to bring up.

kingjames how were you so sure Hessmyrr was scum? You incessantly cried and shouted that he had to be Mafia.

1.) Only and information role of some sort (detective) or another Mafia member would know Hessmyrr is Scum.

2.) If you were a Detective role you'd have come out and told us. You can't be killed in this game except by lynching. Even if Mafia knew your location on the map and could pop you you couldn't be stopped if this was true.

3.) This means you are Scum. There's no way that you would know Hessmyrr is Scum. The Day 1 and Day 2 cases against him were terribly bad but you and LSB kept pushing HARD for his death. Ignoring anything anyone else said about it.




4.)It wouldn't be hard to bus your fellow scumbuddy if he's going to leave the game.
Before Hessmyrr was lynched I kept saying regardless of what he flips it would be an attempt by you guys to "confirm" yourself to the town. But Hessmyrr was going to possibly be gone by his own admission. This starts to add up quite nicely now doesn't it?

Day 1 start a terrible lynch upon Hessmyrr
Fail
Day 2 start another terrible lynch on Hessmyrr
Fail
In both cases neither of you could prove Hessmyrr is Scum.
Day 3 jcarl comes up with an idea to lynch for information
The minute we start accepting the plan, kingjames comes out and starts screaming to lynch Hessmyrr because he is scum even though he can only be 100% of this if he is Scum himself

annul, bless his heart, tried to question the lynch also but he get's harassed to death about it by kingjames. Annul did nothing wrong:
He questioned the nature of lynch - Hessmyrr could have been a guerrilla warrior but kingjames shot that possibility down multiple times.

We know players have guerrilla warrior abilities: We saw it used Night 2. So how come Hessmyrr couldn't have been? kingjames shot that possibility down without any proof as to how Hessmyrr could not have been guerrilla.

To this day, no one ever proved Hessmyrr was Scum. He was lynched because you two knew he was going to leave the game and saw it as an opportunity to gain Town Cred. If you are town aligned then by now you would have been able to tell us how you knew 100% that Hessmyrr was scum.

And you never answered that question. So today I'm voting for kingjames because he was pushing super hard for this guy's lynch with no proof and 100% conviction. LSB is next.

Day 3 jcarl comes up with an idea to lynch for information
The minute we start accepting the plan, kingjames comes out and starts screaming to lynch Hessmyrr because he is scum even though he can only be 100% of this if he is Scum himself

On November 23 2010 04:32 Ace wrote:
ah yea my bad, you're right. It was you who asked for my opinion on page 47 and I got it mixed up. Regardless my point still stands:

What started out for "lynch for information" turned into "I'm 100% sure this guy is scum" and nobody had proof.

On November 23 2010 04:22 Ace wrote:
I defended Hessmyrr because you guys never had a good reason for lynching him. Your Day 1 lynch was a farce "because you misread the rules". I defended Hessmyrr Day 1 proving that your reasons for lynching him was terrible.

Day 2? Same thing.

No one ever proved Hessmyrr was Scum. I asked like 50 times "why is Hessmyrr scum?" but you never could. So how is my defense of him scummy?

Also I've got another thing to bring up.

kingjames how were you so sure Hessmyrr was scum? You incessantly cried and shouted that he had to be Mafia.

1.) Only and information role of some sort (detective) or another Mafia member would know Hessmyrr is Scum.

2.) If you were a Detective role you'd have come out and told us. You can't be killed in this game except by lynching. Even if Mafia knew your location on the map and could pop you you couldn't be stopped if this was true.

3.) This means you are Scum. There's no way that you would know Hessmyrr is Scum. The Day 1 and Day 2 cases against him were terribly bad but you and LSB kept pushing HARD for his death. Ignoring anything anyone else said about it.




4.)It wouldn't be hard to bus your fellow scumbuddy if he's going to leave the game.
Before Hessmyrr was lynched I kept saying regardless of what he flips it would be an attempt by you guys to "confirm" yourself to the town. But Hessmyrr was going to possibly be gone by his own admission. This starts to add up quite nicely now doesn't it?

Day 1 start a terrible lynch upon Hessmyrr
Fail
Day 2 start another terrible lynch on Hessmyrr
Fail
In both cases neither of you could prove Hessmyrr is Scum.
Day 3 jcarl comes up with an idea to lynch for information
The minute we start accepting the plan, kingjames comes out and starts screaming to lynch Hessmyrr because he is scum even though he can only be 100% of this if he is Scum himself

annul, bless his heart, tried to question the lynch also but he get's harassed to death about it by kingjames. Annul did nothing wrong:
He questioned the nature of lynch - Hessmyrr could have been a guerrilla warrior but kingjames shot that possibility down multiple times.

We know players have guerrilla warrior abilities: We saw it used Night 2. So how come Hessmyrr couldn't have been? kingjames shot that possibility down without any proof as to how Hessmyrr could not have been guerrilla.

To this day, no one ever proved Hessmyrr was Scum. He was lynched because you two knew he was going to leave the game and saw it as an opportunity to gain Town Cred. If you are town aligned then by now you would have been able to tell us how you knew 100% that Hessmyrr was scum.

And you never answered that question. So today I'm voting for kingjames because he was pushing super hard for this guy's lynch with no proof and 100% conviction. LSB is next.

On November 23 2010 04:40 Ace wrote:
Well then explain how he was sure that Hessmyrr was scum and how it was convenient that Hessmyrr was leaving the game anyway.

On November 23 2010 04:49 kingjames01 wrote:
I don't think it's against the rules if I just post this map. Here's a temporary map until Coagulation posts a better one.

On November 23 2010 04:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:


He may not have been 100% sure. But he thought Hesmyrr was scum, and as I said before, if you don't believe it yourself, who else will? He was confident and other people followed.

I honestly saw Hesmyrr going afk as a futile attempt to duck out of the crosshairs, but at that point it was too late. By the time he announced his absence, there were so many votes on him that I don't think it mattered, so that is a moot point.

On November 23 2010 04:54 Ace wrote:


If you know your ally is going to leave the game and is Scum, then bussing him is easy since he won't be able to continue anyway.

You are ignoring the point that he knows this guy was 100% scum. This is beyond simple belief - he KNEW. How is it he knows?

On November 23 2010 04:54 Ace wrote:


If you know your ally is going to leave the game and is Scum, then bussing him is easy since he won't be able to continue anyway.

You are ignoring the point that he knows this guy was 100% scum. This is beyond simple belief - he KNEW. How is it he knows?