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The day 1 lynch is going to be huge. We need to watch the mayor veeeeeeery closely when he makes it. | ||
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On October 29 2010 11:58 Fishball wrote: I'm still debating whether I should run for Mayor or not, as I DO have something to offer. Such a tease. | ||
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I like Pandain because I believe that he is a transparent and honest townie, at least judging by last game. If he's red, it will become very obvious very quickly. I don't like the thought of a mayor being able to hide information from the town, and my gut tells me Pandain would have let slip if he has this capability. The mayor's actually pretty damn powerful in this game. Being able to outright determine the first lynch is big, as well as getting two votes. I want the motives and reasonings of that person to be as open and obvious as possible. | ||
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I'm seriously considering running for mayor. What I am going to divulge at this point is that I have what I believe is a very powerful role, but I wouldn't feel comfortable revealing it without some level of protection (bodyguards). Because of the nature of the role, I would be able to confirm that I am what I say I am by the second day. The role does not involve the ability to PM others. If I run for mayor, I will outright roleclaim then and there what I am under the assumption that it would be enough to get me elected. I want to know if this is a good idea. I realize that it would be asking others to elect me purely because of my role -- I am fairly new at this game and made some horrendous decisions in Haunted Mafia, though if you check my boogeyman visits I had some pretty good hunches about who was red. Thoughts? | ||
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I'm not sold, yet. | ||
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On October 30 2010 15:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote: the general town consensus is that the 2+1 mafia kp means that the "1" is probably a role that infects people with murrayitis I don't want to be over-obvious, but I will say that I have information that has me believe that this is not the case. I can't say more at the moment as I'm already afraid that I've put myself too far in the open. | ||
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Youngminii is incredibly strange. He posts with practically no reasoning whatsoever, and doesn't return to defend himself when called on it. Though, to be fair, he hasn't posted anywhere else on TL in the meantime. It's possible he's just gone inactive. Anybody who votes with no justification whatsoever raises a huge flag. (*cough* kenpachi *cough*) While I don't have any kind of extensive analysis, NB's posting is... weird. Erratic. Something's not right there. However, I kinda doubt that orgolove is mafia. It's kinda like BM from last game -- I can't see scum putting themselves so far into the spotlight. The last thing they'd want is to put everyone's attention on a member in a huge spat with a townie mayor. At that point we could just look at who he voted for and raise a treasure trove of mafia. | ||
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That was a little late. | ||
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you get an additional vote every day, but have to use it to vote on one of the mafia Whoah... woah, woah, woah, woah woah. What? This brings a lot of perspective on the mystery vote... | ||
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On October 31 2010 10:15 infinitestory wrote: Read it closely. Who received an Additional Mafia Vote today? Does the Mafia Do-Gooder role's additional vote apply on Day 1 for the mayor election as well? Consider that he never voted "legitimately", though. I'm not sure what's going on here... it's either a horrid mod screw-up (in which case I think we should be informed) or there's more than one role of that variety, perhaps one that has to vote town. | ||
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Could we get clarification on that? | ||
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I would hugely appreciate medic protection and induction into a PM circle. I have valuable information that I don't feel comfortable revealing in front of everybody. There is also the chance that what I've got is tainted by insanity, but that applies to everybody. I'll know by the end of the night for sure if what I hear can be trusted -- so far I've seen nothing rules-wise that points to the contrary. If it works out, it will be very very beneficial to the town. There's a lot more going on here than just the plague. | ||
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On October 31 2010 11:05 Infundibulum wrote: No, that doesn't make sense because a town variety doesn't know who his fellow townies are. I was thinking more a mafia that has to vote town. Not as huge a role as the Do-Gooder, but there are situations where it would make a difference. | ||
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On October 31 2010 11:11 Pandain wrote: Sorry didn't come out right. I mean doctor H can then confirm HIMSELF to bum. With only one body guard, mafia can double hit him, no? And is he already immune? I thought he can only tell if another person has murrayitis. Whee, double-post. I thought a mayor is completely immune as long as a bodyguard is about. The bodyguard doesn't take a bullet for the mayor, but stops it from happening in the first place. | ||
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BrownBear will die tonight. | ||
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On November 01 2010 08:09 Pandain wrote: and so why the frick didn't you say so so we can protect him. 1) I have to prove that I'm not bullshitting you. The original target was quickstriker, who was inactive at the time. It wouldn't be a poor sacrifice. 2) It's a double-edged sword. If there's a suicide-bomber in the game and a target is publically revealed it gives an excellent opportunity to take out a medic. That's why I'd like to be part of a PM circle -- if there's a way to get this information risk-free to a medic that's what I want to do. If I had come out with this information earlier I would just be accused of being a mafia attempting to snipe a medic early in the game. | ||
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DCLXVI is going to die tonight. | ||
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And there's always the possibility of me being insane and being wrong sometimes, but there's not much we can do about that. | ||
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On November 01 2010 08:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Is it at all possible that the person who dies at night is mafia? If DC is a confirmed townie now, this makes Aeres look a little bit suspicious IMO. I have no idea, but neither quickstriker nor brownbear were mafia, so evidence points to no. And there's always the possibility of me being insane and being wrong sometimes, but there's not much we can do about that. | ||
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On November 01 2010 08:34 Misder wrote: Is this for certain? Do you know how hes going to die? Is it possible for a doctor or a medic or whatever role its called in this game to protect him so he doesn't die? All I am given is the name of someone who is going to die. I would assume that it's possible for a medic to protect them, as they don't seem to die in any special fashion. I have nothing concrete, though. | ||
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On November 01 2010 08:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Node's role is very easy to fake btw. If he is mafia he needs only to claim "this person will die and I know it" and then kill them that night. If he is actually the suicide bomber this would be a very smart play. All I can really say is that I'm telling the truth. :/ That's part of the reason I waited until the last moment to say that I knew BrownBear was going to die -- it doesn't help the mafia. The other part of the reason is it's obviously bad for the mafia to have someone reveal a target every day, and doing so would put my own life in danger. That's why I briefly considered a mayoral run. If you look at my past posts regarding the role it's something I've been setting up for awhile. On November 01 2010 08:54 Misder wrote: @Node Why were you informed that BB would die so late last cycle, but now you are informed that DXC is going to die so early in this cycle? I was informed at the beginning of Day 1 that quickstriker was going to die, but he went and got modkilled, at which point I got a PM saying that BrownBear was next in line. I explained why I waited to reveal my knowledge of BrownBear's death earlier in this post. | ||
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On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it? The role is called "Oracle". | ||
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On November 01 2010 13:15 youngminii wrote: You're going to die anyway. Unless the mafia are allowed to move the hit? I have no information to indicate the answer one way or the other, but I wouldn't be surprised if mine isn't the only role that indicates with the "mystery kill" in some way. | ||
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On November 01 2010 13:22 jcarlsoniv wrote: I believe you probably can be saved. But it could be dangerous if we try, because it could be a suicide bomber set up or something of the sort. My prophecies say "name will die" (italics are mine). Personally, I think it would be incredibly strange if the person couldn't be saved no matter what, but it is notably different phrasing from "name will be hit". | ||
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Yes, I'm told who will be killed at the beginning of the day. When QuickStriker was modkilled, I PMd the mods and asked if I would be given a new prophecy, and was told BrownBear. I think the reason a new person (BrownBear, in this case) was chosen was because the kill counts as part of the mafia's night KP. Thus, it wouldn't really be "fair" to deny them a kill when they've been told they will have three that night. --- On November 02 2010 12:47 jcarlsoniv wrote: I have known this for quite a while, but it just got me thinking: What do you think the odds are that the mods would change the "oracled" target if that target was modkilled? Idk, it just seems to me that if the player was modkilled, well that's tough shit for the oracle, his power is wasted for the day. Thinking about this, Node actually does seem pretty fishy. Eye of Suspicion While I can see why you think it's fishy, it doesn't make sense in the context of how things went down. I'd have no reason whatsoever to say that QuickStriker was the first target I was informed of -- all that really matters is that BrownBear died. And keep in mind I didn't claim that until the last moment last night, so what does it matter if, at some point, QuickStriker was a target unless we're looking for connections? Frankly, I'm surprised more people haven't brought up suspicions about myself and my role, and it makes me hugely suspect of the "side A vs. side B" that's been going on today. Not that I want to be the center of attention, but yeesh. It worries me that the mafia might consider my role more beneficial than the town does, and thus wouldn't want to see me lynched. Thoughts on why that might be the case below. I don't think it's a list of people with a common link, but instead just a RNG'd townie at the beginning of the day. I've got no proof, but I can't see there being any other way to determine who is going to die at the very beginning of the game, unless it's role related, and I haven't seen any links in the role descriptions of the dead. Keep in mind a kill a day is a pretty big deal. I've said this before, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if my role isn't the only one that can interact with the "mystery" kill in some way. Possibilities for interaction include switching it, blocking it, even canceling it. Also, consider the possibilities for the more "standard" roles in taking advantage of mine. A bus driver, for instance, could absolutely wreak havoc with this knowledge. The mafia could put themselves at risk as much as the town by putting this information out there. Another possibility I've thought of concerning the kill is that the mafia themselves don't know who it is that's going to die. That would be just, well, you know. Still, the potential of this role discreetly giving information to a ghost to deny the mafia a kill every night would be extraordinarily powerful and scary to the mafia. | ||
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NB is slated to die tonight. | ||
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It would have been nicer to see a post analysis and then look at who crawls out of the woodwork to defend him prior to the claim, though. Still, a dead red is a dead red. | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:10 CubEdIn wrote: Damn you ninja. Also, yes, I was gonna ask node about this, how exactly are you foreseeing (i remember you are oracle, right? but i forget the exact mechanics), and when exactly are you informed of the person who will be targeted? I am informed of a person that is going to die at the beginning of every day via mod PM. Because of this, I believe the person is chosen randomly, as I can't see the mafia choosing someone ahead of time, especially on the first day. | ||
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I'm worried about who is going to die tonight. There's a lot of potential to damage town quite a bit, and we definitely seem to have a real plan swinging into motion. | ||
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On November 07 2010 08:21 infinitestory wrote: 5) NB did NOT die. Node, you have some explaining to do. If I had a direct answer, I would give it to you. I can only guess based on what I read on the day post. Doctorhelvetica was driving to meet up with several heads of the town, when he suddenly got shoved into a bus. This day, DoctorHelvetica would join the person who brought him life in death. Judging by this, deconduo's final action was to switch NB and DocH. I've mentioned before that knowing who is going to die is a double-edged sword -- and that a bus driver role could potentially wreak havoc with it. Surprise, surprise. DocH is a much better pick to die than NB, so I'm honestly not surprised that this is the course of action the mafia took. NB, you ought to have gotten a PM if you were directly saved by a medic. At least, that's how it worked in Haunted Mafia. Did that happen? In any case, Amber[LighT] is due to die tonight. | ||
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I'm voting for Meapak and hyperbola, because I think they're mafia. It's as simple as that. | ||
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Switching from Meapak to Ace. | ||
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In the meantime, I have predicted my own death. | ||
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I was immunized on Night 3. | ||
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 I pushed to get into a PM circle, but unfortunately it never came to pass. /mourn Fishball. Fun game. It definitely lived up to its name. | ||
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