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From wiki (http://wikiguides.neoseeker.com/wiki/The_Mafia_Game/Roles): Insane Cop This cop always receives the wrong alignment for the person they investigate. Once they figure out that they are an insane cop, they can provide useful information by assuming the opposite of what they receive from the moderator is true. Insane Doctor There is a fifty-fifty chance that this doctor will kill the person they attempt to protect if they aren’t attacked by someone else. This is decided by the flip of a coin. | ||
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As of now, my opinion of these two are: bumatlarge Kind of experienced Claimed he has a way of proving his innocence Ran and voted himself as mayor 1:22 after the game started. Either he is a blue role or a mafia who wish to steal mayor without much discussing with his teammates. Pandain Experienced Demonstrated good plays in mafia games | ||
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If DoctorHelvetica is Town, then Bumatlarge is Town or Mafia If DoctorHelvetica is Mafia, then Bumatlarge is Mafia If Bumatlarge is Town, then DoctorHelvetica is Town If Bumatlarge is Mafia, then DoctorHelvetica can be Town or Mafia | ||
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That way, only dts (or any blue role) can communication with each others (assuming that all dt (or any blue role) role pms are the same). | ||
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If what Fishball said is true, then Artanis is the one fucking with us. Then this game is indeed insane. Back to topic, I don't think we should vote Fishball as mayor because making him as mayor does not benefit the town since his "supposely dt role mentioned by jcarlsoniv" does not help him use mayor's first day lynch ability. Furthermore, it is dangerous to have the other 5 members role claim to him. What if he is a mafia then there goes our 5 blue roles. The counter argument to voting for Fishball is he is experienced. Assuming the town circle thing is true, he also mention the circle got six members which I predict that there is 1 or 0 mafia in it. The ratio of 0/6 or 1/6 is less than the ratio 9/39 (number of mafia over number of players). | ||
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At least this is how the past games worked. | ||
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Secondly, lying in the previous games means very little in this game. Go ask Bumatlarge and Fishball about have they lied in a past mafia game. | ||
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On October 29 2010 14:58 orgolove wrote: Yeah - except he got himself lynched within a day after that post >.< Mod post: Murrayitis Mechanics. The amount of people infected with Murrayitis is posted at the start of the day. Murrayitis is transferred if a carrier is visited, or visits someone during the night. Doctors can cure someone from Murrayitis. While Plague Doctors can cure and transfer immunity to someone with Murrayitis. Well, if he is elected, I assume at least a doctor (or a Plauguuuuu doctor would give him protection). | ||
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DoctorHelvetica was the first supporter of both bumatlarge and Fishball. Assuming that mafia got no incentive to vote town as mayor, that DoctorHelvetica is most likely to be town. In the case that DoctorHelvetica is mafia, then both bumatlarge and more so Fishball is mafia. The above situation is a if statement about if DoctorHelvetica is town or mafia, then bumatlarge and Fishball are... NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Or we could continue supporting Fishball and his town circle plan. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica had been the most active person. He is also experienced. We need mayor like him. He also said he can somehow prove his innocence which is another plus. So I will change my vote to him. AND Fishball, your fellow circle got to step up or you will be a very good lynch. | ||
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Those two posts have a big time difference between them. | ||
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I know this is very mafia-like to post like this. I wish I can redeem myself soon. | ||
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So without DrH dying, there is no way of proving DrH's alignment if he was to be roleblocked every night. We can't do much here since there could be better lynch targets. What DrH say now can be treated as useful information in the case he dies in the future. Mafia can kill DrH tonight without the presense of a bodyguard. They can also choose not to kill DrH and let people who are against DrH and his failure of proving himself do their jobs. Again we can't do much here. In regard to the Aeres/youngminii situation, I don't have much useful insight of the situation. Now for the purpose of this post: Node got a very good power (the power to predict that a specific person die). If this power is included into the 2+1 kill power of the mafia, we can reduce the number of mafia targeted death by 1 if we can protect that certain person with a medic related role. Words directing to DCLXVI: Node who claimed oracle predicted your death, if you got anything to contributed please do it now. Also IF roleclaiming before dying benefits town, then roleclaim. | ||
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On November 02 2010 06:56 NB wrote: i want to know 1 thing before i said anything..... Node said that at day he knows who will die at night, so who is it this night? It's DCLXVI | ||
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The logical reason is mafia targeted someone and that person came in contact with 2 others. I question who that person could be. On October 29 2010 10:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: With the exception of any doctor role, players will not be informed if they have murrayitis. As of now, no one claims to have the disease so I assume that no doctor has the disease. If DrH is telling the truth about his poking ability and his doctor role. He couldn't have the disease and the disease never transferred to another person. Then who the mafia targeted with the disease and who the disease spread to. We have to figure this out soon or the game will end at an exponential rate. My guess is that it's someone who stood out in day1 excluding DrH. | ||
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Reason 1 (day1) mod post: Mayor Artanis of Insania was quickly overwhelmed by the effects of Murrayitis. It quickly became clear that the Mafia had somehow harnessed the power of Murrayitis and planned to use it against the town. It stated that Mafia harnessed the power and planned to use it against the town. Reason 2: Three people are infested. That means that M-Rus infest on a random person who happens to a somewhat popular given they came in contact with 2 other people. | ||
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On November 02 2010 06:17 bumatlarge wrote: I'm going to make a brief player summary list. Nothing fancy, please quote to add FACTS not opinions. I'm doing this from memory just to help myself remember exactly what concrete things have happened. + Show Spoiler + 1. DoctorHelvetica - Mayor. Claims role checks for virus, used on jcarl night1, no results. 2. Hyperbola - 3. Bumatlarge - Claims he can add a person to be a personal mason each day. Ran for mayor 4. Veldril 5. Pandain - Ran for mayor. At odds with Dr. H? 6. Aeres - Claimed BG and captain role that lets hi leave at night with restrictions. Says the BG claim was a lie. 7. deconduo 8. Coagulation 9. annul Bullet Bill / Bodyguard - Mayor candidate, real BG, if there is only 1. 10. infundibulum 11. Amber[LighT] 12. Kenpachi 13. lol1221 RebirthOfLegend 14. Nemesis 15. ghrur 16. KtheZ 17. QuickStriker Angsty Pardoner - Result of +1 kp of mafia? (node oracle) 18. CubEdIn 19. Meapak_Ziphh 20. SiNiquity Self-Conscious Vigilante 21. DCLXVI 22. Divinek 23. Lexpar 24. ShmotZ Mafia Do-Gooder - never used vote, part of fishball circle 25. Orgolove ADD Doctor - modkilled, fishball circle 26. Node - Claims oracle, can see where +1 mafia kp will strike 27. youngminii 28. jcarlsoniv - claims he was never poked by Dr. H 29. BrownBear Vote Rigger 30. Infinitestory 31. Masq L 32. NB 33. Meeple Glasse 34. Misder 35. kingjames01 Self-Conscious Lazy Vigilante 36. Ace 37. Fishball - Is in confirmed (orgolove) circle of 6. Only 3 remain. Claims he can determine alignment of his circle. 38. kitaman27 39. LunarDestiny 24 of 30 Town-aligned roles remaining 8 of 9 Mafia-aligned roles remaining 1 BG Murraytis spreads to visitors and visitees. 3 People infected. Radio Loony lets a message be sent by some player. So lazy that I use this chart as reference... According to the chart, ShmotZ and Orgolove are part of Fishball's circle. But according to the role pm given after their death, there is no mentioning for any circle whatsoever. Orgolove the ADD Doctor is now dead. You are the ADD Doctor! Once per night, you may PM me the person you want to save that night. However, if the person doesn't get hit at night, you get an ADD attack and have a 10% chance of killing him yourself, so be careful! You are not allowed to protect yourself, as you are paranoid that you might kill yourself. Furthermore, given the recent spreading of Murrayitis, you have trained yourself in being able to cure a person from this plague. ShmotZ the Mafia Do-Gooder has been modkilled. You are the Mafia Do-gooder! You never really wanted to be part of the mafia, but your dad just happened to be Al Capone so you were forced into it. Every day, you get an additional vote every day, but have to use it to vote on one of the mafia. If you are the only mafia left, you are relieved of this. | ||
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On November 02 2010 09:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Considering the mafia likely know everyone who is in the circle, I think you should tell everybody as a town. It's just more information that we don't have that the mafia does. Good point here. Since ShmotZ is part of the circle and he was reveal to be mafia. Then mafia should have the circle list as information. No reason to hide it unless the plan you are having has to work secretly to town. | ||
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If Aeres is mafia, then claiming Bodyguard make him look town since mafia have no intention of killing DrH through nightkill and is ok to roleblock DrH every night. Then there will be no bodyguard death through targeting mayor with night kill. Unfortunately for Aeres, the other bodyguard got modkilled and forced him to semi role claim. I do agree that Aeres currently is our best lynching target, but I would abstain of my vote because I don't want the bandwagon to take over. Aeres needs to speak up if he is trying to help town. | ||
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This an examples I would have post on the radio. -It seems that a mafia member is feeling bad for the sin he committed. | ||
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Youngminii - He escaped one lynch for some reasons. DrH also pointed out that his willingness to keep gunning for Aeres makes him less likely to be red. Aeres - Lied about being the bodyguard role. Pretty much given up after being exposed. Divinek - Inactive... I probably choose between Aeres or Divinek. But I'll decide near deadline to see if I can justify my vote better. | ||
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But that post never imply that Youngminii is a scum but as someone who doesn't understand the game. The biggest benefit of reading that post is it reminded me that Youngminii refuses to reveal anything about his role Am I missing something? | ||
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I also found out that my knowledge of how bodyguard works was incorrect. There goes half of my reasoning behind lynching Aeres. DrH's reply to Pandain is logical and I don't believe that Pandain is try to twist your word to make you look scum. I think he is misinform about your ability to semi prove that a person is town or mafia (heck. I was confused about your ability before that reply of yours). Now for who I should vote (does it matter at this point?) Youngminii - No one reply to my post that was made 2 hours before about how Infinitestory's post depicts why youngminii gunning for Aeres is scummy. As of now, he somehow escaped lynching (from the things happened in this game, this is not the most crazy thing). When asked about his role, he refuse to say much except that he is blue... Aeres - He was my prime target but after I found out about what bodyguards really do, I drop most of my claim that it is beneficial for mafia to roleclaim bodyguard when they are willing to roleblock mayor every night. The reason left over is he lied about being a bodyguard. Divinek - he is being targeted because of inactiveness... won't modkill do the work? CubEdIn - There's not much information about him. He did role claim as doctor right? If that is true, someone needs to protect him and speak up in the future if their night protection worked. If not, he will end up dead. I still don't have a strong opinion on who is mafia. I do agree that lying is pretty bad. If mafia can get away with a exposed fake roleclaim, then they can do it again (especially in this game where they can make up role). Also, I do agree that we will be talking about Aeres for the rest of the game if it is not resolved today. Because there is a lack of clear target for today, I believe we can use it to clear out this confusion. | ||
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You can do it by claiming what you are putting in the next radio show. | ||
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You guys can talk in encrypted messages using "Fishball's last PM network message" as the encryption code. Or you guys might not want to expose yourself as being in the circle. | ||
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On November 03 2010 08:13 kitaman27 wrote: Well I guess that infers some town members also have the power to use Murrayitis against the mafia? That's a good thing I suppose. I don't that is the case. Remember that day1 post about mafia harness the power of M-Rus? It implies that only the mafia can use the power. The mafia having their own plague doctor give them the incentive to infect their own (possible popular players) and transmitted the disease faster. They can cure the disease right before all the infected die. | ||
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On November 03 2010 09:04 Coagulation wrote: i think if anyone is painted red by the aeres lynch its youngminii he was the very first to throw around "LAL" and "lynch first ask questions later" with zero reasoning. unless something significant happens overnight im gonna be watching youngminni closely. I don't agree... Youngminii claimed soon after Fishball's death that he is the newest added member to the circle. Fishball's post also hinted that youngminii is possibly the newest member given youngminii's unwillingness to release he role. On November 02 2010 14:17 Fishball wrote: One last update before I go to sleep. - We have 4 members in the circle now, including myself. We all know who each other are. - 2 members have role claimed to me, which includes the new member. - The last member finally replied, and have refused to role claim to me for now, explaining that he wants to play it safe for a while. Good night. My conclusion is that Youngminii is the new member in the circle (the other two members of the circle can decide if they want to step up and prove Youngminii is indeed the newest member. I don't think the mod would be that evil and give the circle a mafia member after half of their circle got modkilled. | ||
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On November 03 2010 09:15 jcarlsoniv wrote: Well we don't know that the mods selected someone to be in the circle. It very well could have been RNG. Well, using RNG seems more reasonable. Also look at how Artanis phrase the adding of the new player. He is describing it as a balancing issue. So what is his definition of balance? 4 blue or 3 blue 1 red (assuming orglove is the only mafia originally in the circle) On November 02 2010 13:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Due to the modkills, a PM network was severely damaged. For balance reasons, one player has been added. | ||
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On November 03 2010 09:21 LunarDestiny wrote: Well, using RNG seems more reasonable. Also look at how Artanis phrase the adding of the new player. He is describing it as a balancing issue. So what is his definition of balance? 4 blue or 3 blue 1 red (assuming orglove is the only mafia originally in the circle) Orgolove->ShmotZ at least youngminii is confirm as the newest member now. | ||
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But glasse did role claim. Doesn't make sense for him to be mafia. | ||
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Is it beneficial for town to have the explosion sooner or later? | ||
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One thing you can do with that role is to use it as a M-RUS transfer method to whom you suspect as mafia. Maybe you can do other things since you are less likely to be roleblock. | ||
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On November 03 2010 13:01 LunarDestiny wrote: Ok, if that is so. After losing their Plague Doctor (I assume they only has 1... not very sure), they will be less likely to target someone who has a high chance of being a M-RUS carrier (you). That means you have lesser chance to be role block, then you can do that sticky thing tonight. One thing you can do with that role is to use it as a M-RUS transfer method to whom you suspect as mafia. Maybe you can do other things since you are less likely to be roleblock. Immune to M-RUS huh... trash the idea. | ||
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On November 03 2010 13:14 kitaman27 wrote: If the mafia indeed only has one plague doctor, then DrH could consider using his sticky ability to identify someone who has a strong chance of already having m-rus and then that person can attempt to use their role to infect other mafia suspects, as a sort of weapon. I do believe that mafia only has plague doctor because Divinek's role pm stated that he killed LSB and gets the vaccine. I don't think there is another mafia who is a doctor and is unhappy with the town. Divinek the Mafia Plague Doctor is now dead. You are the Mafia Plague Doctor! You killed LSB because you were unhappy with the town. You decided to aid the mafia in curing their members instead. You can cure any one person from Murrayitis at night. But if DrH is immune to the disease, mafia would be more willing to roleblock him since they don't want their roleblocker get infected with someone who can carry the disease. | ||
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On November 04 2010 03:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I have entrusted Bumatlarge with a message in case I die in the night. If he doesn't post it, he should be held accountable and possibly lynched. Can you put a message in codes and give him the decoder? That way, he can't make up any message he wants. | ||
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On November 04 2010 08:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote: LunarDestiny implied I poked him before I told everyone I poked him he still needs to confirm it but I'm pretty sure it went through this time. Confirm, short message too. Something like I was poked by DrH. Also, it seems that Node's ability is not actually foreseeing a person's death but somehow knowing where a mafia hit going to go at the start of the day. Given that there is two deaths and mafia's kill power is 2+1, that "+1" should be the hit that Node is "foreseeing." | ||
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Anyone claims dt defects mafia almost guarantee a lynch. And for the reason of double lynch. Pandain is a suspect but I am only 50/50 on him as mafia at this point. My main reason for double lynch is that we should use them when town still holds most of the lynching power. | ||
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Infinitestory checked you to be Mafia Retard. Just that name alone implies you are mafia. Bring a mafia retard doesn't make you not mafia. Take a look of ShmotZ, his role actually benefits town but he is still a mafia. ShmotZ the Mafia Do-Gooder has been modkilled. You are the Mafia Do-gooder! You never really wanted to be part of the mafia, but your dad just happened to be Al Capone so you were forced into it. Every day, you get an additional vote every day, but have to use it to vote on one of the mafia. If you are the only mafia left, you are relieved of this. | ||
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On November 04 2010 11:22 Coagulation wrote: NO AMOUNT OF FLINGED BOOGERS CAN SAVE ME NOW. WTF, if what you are saying is true (we know after the lynch with your role pm), then GG pandain. On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated. On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying. Day 2 - 43 hours to go Aeres: 3 Ace youngminii bumatlarge Jcarlsoniv: 1 Elder Vote | ||
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On November 04 2010 11:28 LunarDestiny wrote: WTF, if what you are saying is true (we know after the lynch with your role pm), then GG pandain. Wrong on my part. Those are two different day of voting... | ||
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Coagulation say he is a retard and can fling booger (we will know after the lynch). The mod post in the voting thread say booger is flung to a random mafia member. The mafia member "ran out". Pandain is hit with "green substance" who also "ran out". So the question is booger can be green right... I don't really pick my booger so I don't know. | ||
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On November 04 2010 11:45 bumatlarge wrote: I apologize for posting but having vast experience on this subject matter, I found myself incapable of not answering this question. Boogers are composed of dried nasal mucus, and are often a dark yellow color, and occasionally carry a greenish hue, but only the most veteran nosepickers are informed of this. Fun fact, a little less then half of adults have eaten their snot and have enjoyed it. Snot is meant to be consumed regardless, as mucus normally gets swallowed after cilia sends it down the hatch. Feasting on others' boogers is generally shunned upon as the mucus may carry foriegn bacteria harmful to different bodies. So with your booger picking knowledge that if we somehow get Coag with M-RUS, he will fling all of his mafia members infected? I should stop with the booger thing. | ||
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On November 04 2010 12:12 Pandain wrote: mmm seems like I'm dead either way :/ Node, who is going to die tonight? NB. | ||
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instant mod kill... I wish. | ||
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On November 04 2010 12:28 Kenpachi wrote: zerg icon = auto scum .. Im not sure about what 666 is trying to say.. is he saying he gives up also or he being sarcastic about being mafia DC can't be scum, he was "foresaw" by Node to be dead. I assume that counts as a mafia kill. Mafia won't target their own as a target. Then Node is lying? DC please restate that confusing post of yours. | ||
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On November 04 2010 12:39 DCLXVI wrote: options as I see them (my plan)lynch pandain today, me tomorrow so that I can kill coag and another scummy player instead of someone else If I am lying well you are lynching me and pandain who doc wants to lynch anyways, and then you lynch coag. So the town is still lynching reds every vote (presuming pandain is red, which doc seems to believe) Or you do docs plan which is to lynch Coag, then pandain. I lose a bomb and lose my effectiveness because I only get a vig hit when I die, so there is no 2for1 when lynching me. Mad hatter is a role I have never seen on a mafia, and I am asking you guys to lynch me tomorrow. What is there to lose? Assuming both coag and pandain is mafia A) today: lynch coag tomorrow: pandain and someone else. You also lose a bomb. 2 mafia dead, 1 lynch target, 1 bomb remaining. B) today: lynch pandain tomorrow: lynch DC and someone else. Bomb kills coag and someone else. 2 mafia dead, 1 lynch target, 1 bomb target, 1 townie dead. So plan A has 1 bomb remaining. plan B has 1 bomb target and 1 townie dead. I think plan A (lynch coag today) is better. | ||
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On November 04 2010 12:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: but the other person could be mafia? why assume they're a townie? What other person could be mafia, the townie death is for DC dying. | ||
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Putting that aside, comparing lynching pandain and lynching coag today. coag - 97% mafia? - retard role, bad for mafia. Pandain - 70%mafia? - he claim as "trash collector." we don't believe him. If he has a power role as mafia leaving won't be good. | ||
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On November 04 2010 21:09 CubEdIn wrote: Just a thought: Albeit a long shot, Glasse could be mafia. Why? - We don't really know his role - We know that he's part of Radio Loony, but he claims he doesn't control "all of it", just the non-instigating parts? How convenient. - His voting pattern is strange (keeping his vote on DrH, could be related to his role) - He very rarely posts useful things Maybe he doesn't control Loony altogether, but is there a way we can check this? Perhaps give him something to say and see what comes up, but I guess that would be useless since if someone else is controlling it as well, they will see it and play along to cast-away suspicion. My only real issue with Glasse is that he didn't role-claim properly. He gave us bits and pieces. First the cat, then, after a while, he decided to let us know that he didn't write all of it. (Why not tell us from the beginning?), then he told us he has a character count he must stick to, then he told us that c.count is 75. Why not just share all this information from the beginning? Can anyone brainstorm a way for us to see exactly how the mechanics behind the Radio work? I'll go back to reason that if Glasse is mafia, then his mafia buddy would surely have stopped him from doing stupid things like roleclaiming. That Loony Radio role is super powerful, I just don't see how mafia would give that role up. Only explanation I can think of is Glasse is town, without help from anyone, he underrated his role. | ||
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I hope I am not too late to make this post. I beg that those who didn't vote for Pandain to really consider what I state above. If that make sense to you, please change your vote to Pandain. | ||
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On November 05 2010 11:49 Coagulation wrote: YES PLZ CHANGE YOUR VOTE TO PANDAIN. Starts with you first. | ||
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Then there are these mod posts: On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated. Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying. ~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote. On November 04 2010 11:37 Coagulation wrote: As a last act of defiance I loaded up my finger with my carefully harvested ammunition and took aim at doch. but it was too sticky and clung to my finger upon my attempted firring. so i began to shake my hand vigorously to remove it and in true retard fashion projected it into my own eye. This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself. On November 05 2010 13:05 LSB wrote: If you have any day actions please PM me Pandain (11) KtheZ Hyperbola Beneather Youngminii Kenpachi DoctorH (2) Infun DCLXVI Meapak_Ziphh Lunardestiny Coagulation (10) Infinistory Node Nemisis Ace Deconduo Pandain Vedril NB ROL Kitman DocH (1) Glasse Hyperbola (1) Amber[Light] Double Lynch has passed, unless you guys start unvoting it I'm going to skip keeping track now Lexpar, L, and kitman27 still need to vote This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out. This is what I predict Coag's role ability is: - During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify. - His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod. So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation. What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him? We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town. There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case. There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town. If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him. If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent. Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on. This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated. | ||
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On November 06 2010 04:19 Pandain wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2010 04:01 LunarDestiny wrote: To me, it seems that the mafia is comfortable letting Coag die. This makes me feel that Pandain got a very valuable role and his ability can be put to great effect tonight. Also, mafia may see Coag's role as a mafia retard is a liability and may hurt them in the future. Then there are these mod posts: Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability ~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote. This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself. This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out. This is what I predict Coag's role ability is: - During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify. - His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod. So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation. What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him? We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town. There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case. There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town. If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him. If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent. Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on. This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated. there are several things wrong with this, and some assumptions you make. iirc coag did vote during day 2. Also, during day 1 when would he have used this ability? We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town. You assume I am mafia, and have a very powerful role because of this. I am welcome to a DT to check me, if they can. But from my understanding of the game so far(based on my role and Infinite's), there may not be a DT who can actually check someone who he wishes to check. Which is why I'm saying that if town is dead set on lynching me and there's nothing I can do, they might as well lynch DXCVII tommorow, when he can't be roleblocked(very likely since Dr. H was telling the truth) But again, I'd like to hear more reasons why I'm being called mafia besides coag. Actually, there are not a lot of strong reasons that say you are mafia. !)Even with close voting, the mafia seems content of letting Coag die. 2)You just gave after you are accused of being mafia. 3)If you are mafia, your ability might hurt town(I know this is a IF->MIGHT double assumption). I believe there are other reasons that people pointed out earlier in the thread, but these are the reasons I am basing on when making my decision. | ||
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Or you want to die a glorify death. When you die turns out blue, that we can confirm Infinitestory, Nemesis, and 1 other person's (who you check tonight) alignments? | ||
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That said, I still unsure if Pandain is the right choice. | ||
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Can we assume that most if not all mafia members are voting for the same person? | ||
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If you are truly a town player, then summarize what you do know in case you are chosen to be lynch. If you turn out to be blue, we will take what you have said as important information. If you turn out to be red, we will just ignore your summary. | ||
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On November 06 2010 06:56 kitaman27 wrote: We have 5 minutes to decide if we want to switch or not. Not true, we got 1 hour left. On November 04 2010 08:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/324/sunrisepp.jpg) Day 3 This is Insania News, my name is Zacko Whacko. Last night has taken its toll on many inhabitants of Insania. The tragedy of the cruiseship was remembered, and a day of silence was called in. As elder Jcarlsoniv returned home from the mourning, he was swiftly welcomed by the mob. It was however the last welcome he would ever have. Another person who came back from mourning was Bumatlarge. He hurried home in hopes of seeing his wife again, but his worst fear came true instead. "Please get in.", someone said, and so he did. A silenced shot was fired and Bumatlarge was thrown in the water. Jcarlsoniv the Floridan is now dead. bumatlarge the Stalker Townie is now dead. News in 60 seconds: Some looney tried to force his way into a house, but this attempt failed. The man himself was out of town for the night. Several houses were invaded. Another man was seen on the rooftops. An unidentified second and third man were seen attempting to infiltrate houses, but were not caught. The mayor has promised he would try to make the city more safe at day, starting off by lynching a baddie. Now for Radio Looney: "Blue pill is not what you think. @Glasse : Woa! I have my own twitter now! My scumbuddy is DoctorHelvetica! *wink* *wink* :3" It is now day! 3 people are infected. You have 48 hours to lynch someone. Remember: There are still 3 double lynches available, which you can vote on. Should a majority pass on this, they will be used in the next day phase. | ||
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voting: (pandain vs. coag) The situation was 12 vs 12 Then secret mafia vote->12 vs 13 Kita within 1 minute (6:55-6:56) change his vote from coag to pandain, result 13 vs 12. Pandain should be lynched then, but LSB messed up on the time. So Kita was refreshing the voting thread just as the secret mafia post was cast. Within 1 minute, changed his vote from coag to pandain. Very hard to believe. | ||
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On November 06 2010 07:18 Beneather wrote: Coagulation is just begging to not be lynched and just keep pointing the finger at Pandain. I'd say Coagulation is the Mafia Switching my vote to Coagulation . I don't think most of Coag's action on day3 makes any sense. | ||
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On November 06 2010 07:33 kitaman27 wrote: Also, looking back it was 3 minutes, not 1. Normally, I would just ignore that, but the fact that you inserted the incorrect time stamps is a bit weird. I messed up on the time there. What I meant was you noticed the secret vote 1 minute after. | ||
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If what Kitaman is true, then he almost spoiled mafia's plan of killing coag. Switch to lynch coag implies that you think kitaman is lying. Also, why did the mafia place the secret on coag who is one of them when they could have place that vote on pandain who you (DrH and Beneather) think is innocent. Is my logic correct? | ||
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On November 06 2010 07:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote: that's why i'm not going to vote for pandain. coagulation is the more sure target and why would the dying mafia push suspicion onto a different and better mafia player? I also don't agree on this. Coag continuous say Pandain is mafia is irrelevant because his word can not be trust. To exaggerate, if coag gives out the whole mafia list, would you believe it? | ||
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Pandain red: Kitaman is blue Pandain blue: Kitaman is red. | ||
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On November 06 2010 07:50 Pandain wrote: don't be so blind sighted, read what I said, its entirely possible kitaman just wanted to encourage the bandwagon. Of course, we shouldn't use wifom at all I suppose, is this wifom? Encourage the bandwagon at the last 2 minutes. | ||
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On November 06 2010 07:52 Coagulation wrote: YOU KNOW WHO ELSE WANTED TO ENCOURAGE BANDWAGON AT LAST MINUTE? SECRETZ MAFIA VOTER. JUS SAYIN. NO. The mafia can vote in the last minute to lynch Pandain, then they don't need a bandwagon at all. | ||
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On November 06 2010 08:00 Coagulation wrote: but that would give them away expecially with the fact that they would be saying 1 thing in thread and doing something different in vote thread The town don't know who give the secret mafia vote. That vote can come in the last minute and finalize the lynch. | ||
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On November 06 2010 08:15 Pandain wrote: I'm still willing to address questions regarding my innocence. I would ask a DT check me, and we lynch DXCVII tommorow so then za bomb goes off on me but you guys get extra info Explain why that secret mafia vote was to coag one of their own and not to you, a self claimed blue. | ||
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On November 06 2010 08:43 Pandain wrote: i already said, they probably wanted to encourage a last minute bandwagon. Why would they want to encourage bandwagoning to lynching you as oppose to sending their secret vote at the last possible minute to finalize the lynch themselves. | ||
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On November 06 2010 08:45 Pandain wrote: because coag was starting to take the lead. Right before the secret mafia vote came, the voting was 12vs12. Their secret vote can finalize the result. | ||
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On November 06 2010 08:49 Pandain wrote: Idk, ask them n.n. Probably feared coag getting lynched. Actually what I just realized is nobody knew LSB planned on ending day early. so they probalby thought they had more time. This clearly stated that LSB was going to end it at 7:00 KST. On November 06 2010 03:58 LSB wrote: Ah, counted his vote. Just didn't realize that he had. All right, the list should be finalized. Day ends in 3 hours, Lexpar and L to be modkilled | ||
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No 1 except for me pointed out that LSB messed up. I pointed it out 1 minute before the vote freezed. On November 06 2010 06:59 LunarDestiny wrote: Not true, we got 1 hour left. | ||
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On November 06 2010 09:31 Kenpachi wrote: GOD DAMN IT HOW DID COAG GET LYNCHED ... I might die tonight.. Then i say DrH and DC are Mafia -_- Don't know about DC, but DrH is very unlikely to be mafia. He is the first one to accuse Pandain, if it weren't for him, Pandain would not be in danger on day3. So him switching his vote to coag proves he is not mafia. | ||
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On November 06 2010 09:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote: lexpars death proves im town ho ho ho anyone want to shit on me now? I shit on you because you changed your vote to coag. Dammit. Then I shit on myself because I told LSB that he messed up with the time. If I didn't tell him that, Pandain would be the one getting lynched. | ||
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On November 06 2010 09:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote: why? i dont think pandain is mafia anymore none of coags posting/pandain posting makes sense as mafia and as much as you can say WIFOM there is a point when I see that pandain isn't mafia, he's just the worst scumhunter/analyser in the history of mafia Then how do you explain the secret mafia vote which came at 6:55? | ||
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We need to devise a plan to stop mafia from killing our strong roles. We can decide who to lynch after we get more result on night action. Also, DrH said Pandain is blue... ok. If he is telling the truth, his ability to tell alignment of one person is useful. So who should he target? | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:10 infinitestory wrote: I'm not a highly valuable DT, since my check is RNG'd. We have something on the order of 18 blues, 6 reds remaining, so once again my check is a 1 in 4 thing (which means on average I'll find another red on night 6). Medics, please don't waste your prot on me unless you have an excellent reason. Bro, you are the only 100% town, | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:11 Pandain wrote: If a DT does manage to check me, should they claim so in thread? On November 06 2010 10:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: dt's should only claim if they find a red I think if a DT check Pandain and he is blue. The dt should claim. This would save us one lynch (on pandain) and we will then know that Pandain was telling the truth. Then Pandain's claim on infinitestory and Nemesis is blue is also true. Pandain's night 3 alignment check is also true. | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: im 100% town, the night post proved it the only way I would believe infinitestory is 100% town is if coagulation was the blue retard. the fact that coag was red says nothing. I missed that night post. Where was it? | ||
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Shouldn't we keep it real, and play with logic. | ||
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On November 07 2010 08:22 KtheZ wrote: Considering that the state of the town is in complete disarray, I will now roleclaim. I am the detective. However, I suspect that I am an "insane detective". The reasons and my finding will be below. On night 1, I forgot to investigate anyone, being the lurker dumbass I was. On night 2, I investigated Pandain. I found him to be the MAFIA Garbage collector. On night 3, I investigated infinitestory, and found him to be the MAFIA ADD detective. Now, what the hell? Why would the mafia have an ADD Detective? This has led me to conclude that I am insane. Now, assuming I'm an insane detective, it is apparent that Pandain and infinitestory are town-aligned. I am no longer into lynching pandain; I had found him to be mafia, which is why i was so ardent in pursuing his lynch. I feel that infinitestory's results are now trustworthy, and that pandain did not lie about his role. If you think I am lying, look at my posts against pandain. I was so one-mindedly pursuing pandain because I thought he was mafia. However, this night has confirmed my sad suspicion that I am "insane". Mafia Trash Collector... Pandain said trash collector gives him the ability to tell alignment. Mafia knows the alignment already... Then you say infinitestory is also mafia... Not saying you are lying but it does not make sense. | ||
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o.o missed the insane part. Now it make some sense. | ||
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I would want to believe that both infinitestory and pandain town rather than both of them being mafia. If they are both town, then Pandain confirmation of Nemesis being town is also true. | ||
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On November 07 2010 08:49 KtheZ wrote: Of course I'm not 100% sure if I am an insane detective. Maybe i only have a 50% chance of mixing it up. However, I do confirm infinitestory as ADD Detective and thus as town. You being insane is the only thing that makes sense. You checked pandain to be mafia trash collector. Why would the mafia need someone to check on alignments. | ||
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On November 07 2010 09:01 kitaman27 wrote: Ya, that's what I assumed for the story, however we are still missing DC's second bomb. Did it not go off? DCLXVI the Crazy Mad Hatter has tin foil hatted himself. You are the Crazy Mad Hatter! Once per night, you may plant a bomb on someone or switch the bomb with someone else, and they will go off if you die. However, should you survive night 3, you put on a tin foil hat and place a bomb under your own bed and die, unless you're saved by a doctor that night. This does not trigger your other bombs. You have two bombs. | ||
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On November 07 2010 09:15 Ace wrote: I'm sure it's 2+1 also but I just looked through the OP and can't find that anywhere. Where is the Mafia KP listed? here. On October 29 2010 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Mafia has 2+1KP. Bodyguards are common in mayor games in which as long as they are alive, they will protect the mayor. | ||
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KtheZ claims he role ability tells him both alignment and role of a targeted person. In Pandain's case, we do not need to know his alignment. KtheZ told us that Pandain's role is indeed trash collector. A role, which he claims, has the ability to tell alignment. That role is useless for the mafia. The logical reasons for lynching Pandain are if we suspect that: 1) Kthez is lying 2) Pandain role is Trash Collector, but telling alignment is NOT his ability. (Can anyone find a mafia game which the role trash collector is used?) | ||
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KtheZ because he checked Pandain role to be TRASH COLLECTOR. Veldril because he was checked to be town by Pandain. Nemesis because he was checked to be town by Pandain. Lynching lurkers is a hit or miss to me. But you can giving reason why that lurker is likely to be mafia, then it is much better than lynching random people or random lurkers. | ||
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I see KtheZ's claim of Pandain being Trash Collector is a claim that aimed to save Pandain. If we know Pandain's alignment: Pandain is mafia: KtheZ is also mafia given that a town member would not save a mafia. KtheZ is the 2nd to vote to lynch Pandain in the day 3 lynch, although this is not a strong reason. Pandain is town: KtheZ is also town because mafia would not save a town. | ||
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In addition to Kitaman's watch, Ace seemed too good of a target not to be killed if he is town. | ||
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This icon of mine (I think it is a devourer), looks like shit. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://www.granitegrok.com/pix/precious.jpg) Precious was my kill, Ace. Don't ever take precious away from me. | ||
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Sméagol was clean until some dirty guy touched me at night. | ||
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I think getting deconduo would be smart as he's not a total lurker like veldril so lynch chances are lower and cubedin has chance of getting killed by mafia The day is still long though, we have a lot of time to think about it ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: Messed Up at my last pm. Read the mod pm if you haven't read it yet. We need three people (Veldril, deconduo and CubEdIn) dead to win. Veldril - easy, since they are hinting that tomorrow it is a double lynch. Getting an inactive won't be too hard. Deconduo - Low posting and relatively inactive. This is second in terms of difficulty. CubEdIn - This is much harder. He claimed as medic and succeed in some ways. Not dying meaning he could have protected himself. DrH not dying which means he could have protected DrH. DC(666 dude) not dying which means he also could have protected DC. Lets hope the mafia will help us killing CubEdIn. I currently don't have anything else on my mind. But don't say or hint anything about this new form group unless we both agree it is beneficial for us to do so. | ||
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Do not provoke anyone. Our first priority is survival. Our nightkill will do most of the work for us. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: deconduo is indeed the best choice. He is the less likely to be kill out of the three and therefore should be our target. Veldril is on the pro town side so mafia may want to take him out. CubEdIn claims he is a medic said he is likely to protect himself. I don't know if he is telling the truth but I want a sure kill. So deconduo is our best choice. Also, what are you putting at the loony radio? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: anything new? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: I prefer some time to think about it. There is no hurry. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: Well we could probably decide now and ill just send it or something ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: I am think of deconduo too. Not too sure though. One thing to add, if one of us are not present for personal reason, then the other should pm the mod for the night kill. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: who should we use our KP on tonight? I was thinking deconduo. Veldril is lurking so eventually he'll die and i think cubedin could possibly die from mafia, unless hes mafia himself tonight What do you think? | ||
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----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: artanis said 23 hours at 9pm kst, its almost 8pm kst so in about 5 minutes ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: Do you know how much time before day 5? I pmed LSB and even he is not sure. Artanis hasn't gave me a reply. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: well just cut my name from it then one of us needs to stay alive if the mafia decides to target you, at least i can still use the kp ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: Again, I will claim that I will kill Ace after night actions freeze but before day post is posted to gain the maximum trust from town. If Ace wasn't Killed (I was roleblock or medic save Ace), then I might have to quote every conversation of our to prove my innocence. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: you can say as much as you want, just mention that you have a teamate but don't say who. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: Tomorrow I will claim as vigilante and say I killed both Ace and deconduo. It is no surprise that I will receive tons of questions. Like I said before, winning in our current situation is very hard. So how much information should I give to town? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: thats what i meant, you did it before so why change i'll let you have the honor ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: Did you do it? If not, I think it is better that I do it myself. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: do it NOW ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: Please send the night action to both mods. "##Kill: Ace" | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:22 infinitestory wrote: for some reason I really doubt either one of you is dying tonight but are you in fact a 3rd party that has a different win condition than "all mafia dead" Mod gave me a M-rus alert. And suggested me to get cleaned by our LAST plauge doctor. | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:23 Glasse wrote: after i had already screwed up my role  artanis is evilIf it wasn't for the 30 minutes time limit, I could had done a better job reviewing the pms before post. | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:24 infinitestory wrote: ebwop: judging from the fact that you're aiming at mafia with those night KP, i doubt it, but just to be sure Our victory conditions are: 1)We need to get our 3 targets killed. 2)We need to stay alive until the game is over. | ||
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Sharing is with town because we both can't stand Ace (and the mafia) bullying you. He just using his mafia knowledge and he got himself out of the situation. | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:29 infinitestory wrote: cool :3 so town should attempt to cooperate with Glasse and Lunar I would like to but I will mostly die when the M-Rus blow. Which dirty man touched me!!! | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:30 Glasse wrote: i think i tried very hard to make people fucking vote for ace you have all failed to hear my hidden message That's right people. You didn't believe a guy who sweared on behave of his dick | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:32 Pandain wrote: If ace is blue... Then he lied and stole OUR kill. | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:32 kitaman27 wrote: You were spouting nonsense the entire game. Why not come out and actually disprove him? Because we are easy picking by the mafia. And we still had to get Veldril killed without dying. Now it makes no difference. | ||
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Day3:group formed, Night3:we hit on deconduo Night4:we hit on Ace | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:36 LunarDestiny wrote: Summarize of our actions: Day3:group formed, Night3:we hit on deconduo Night4:we hit on Ace EDIT:Day4, I got M-RUS. | ||
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Look at how Kitaman got bullied. | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:39 Pandain wrote: so you didn't because you were scared of ace? Even though you had FRICKIN UNDENIABLE PROOF HE WAS LYING? What proof? At that point, we don't want to reveal everything. | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:40 Pandain wrote: could've just claimed you were the vigi :/ but w/e, I guess that was just the best move in retrospect. Wanted to be lurking and not be targeted by anyone who is dirty. | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:44 LSB wrote: Guys I'd like to congratulate you all for making this the largest thread in the Mafia forum since TL Mafia 2. (only 3100+ posts to go!) Create a 4th group, that's how you do it. | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:45 LunarDestiny wrote: ALSO, don't lynch Veldril, HE IS TOWN!!! 100%, swearing on behave of Glasse's dick. | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:53 kitaman27 wrote: Good luck town. Watch out for Artanis[Xp]'s pro-mafia role names :p Watcher that tracks, what a cruel joke. | ||
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On November 10 2010 09:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Had to make a correction: 3 people are infected, not 4. One person that was targetted was immune. Yes 11 people left, 3 infected. There's still hope. | ||
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On November 10 2010 09:15 Pandain wrote: rofl I've been like "why hasn't anyone even reacted at all yet to my finding?" Then I realized all the active people are dead(infinite...kitaman somewhat) Besides Glasse, and somewhat Lunar I guess. But they don't seem to care :/ We care because we can actually win now. We'll lynch Kenpachi. | ||
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On November 08 2010 08:24 kitaman27 wrote: inf on night one amber on night two ace on night three Amber is Blue. On November 08 2010 12:15 infinitestory wrote: conveniently, i have returned from dinner in time to answer this night 1, i checked annul, found bullet bill & bodyguard. PM included flavor text of me having fun playing on the tire swing night 2, i checked coagulation, found mafia retard. night 3, i checked infundibulum, role name will be withheld since he's still alive and town infundibulum is BLUE On November 07 2010 08:22 KtheZ wrote: Considering that the state of the town is in complete disarray, I will now roleclaim. I am the detective. However, I suspect that I am an "insane detective". The reasons and my finding will be below. On night 1, I forgot to investigate anyone, being the lurker dumbass I was. On night 2, I investigated Pandain. I found him to be the MAFIA Garbage collector. On night 3, I investigated infinitestory, and found him to be the MAFIA ADD detective. Now, what the hell? Why would the mafia have an ADD Detective? This has led me to conclude that I am insane. Now, assuming I'm an insane detective, it is apparent that Pandain and infinitestory are town-aligned. I am no longer into lynching pandain; I had found him to be mafia, which is why i was so ardent in pursuing his lynch. I feel that infinitestory's results are now trustworthy, and that pandain did not lie about his role. If you think I am lying, look at my posts against pandain. I was so one-mindedly pursuing pandain because I thought he was mafia. However, this night has confirmed my sad suspicion that I am "insane". This guy is insane. Pandain is BLUE On November 10 2010 09:48 Pandain wrote: Well remember it was random. Let's see... night 1: infnite Night two: nemesis Night three: Veldril Night 4: Kenpachi. All innocent 'cept Kenpachi Nemesis is BLUE. Kenpachi is RED. Cleaned List Pandain - BLUE Infundibulum - BLUE Kenpachi - RED Nemesis - BLUE Meapak_Ziphh Node - Oracle??? youngminii L NB Glasse - THIRD PARTY LunarDestiny - THIRD PARTY | ||
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On November 10 2010 09:55 Pandain wrote: 10. infundibulum- isn't he supposed to be blue? How do we know that again? On November 08 2010 12:15 infinitestory wrote: Show nested quote + On November 08 2010 12:12 Nemesis wrote: Infinitestory I'm just wondering who did you check the previous days? No need to reveal their roles. conveniently, i have returned from dinner in time to answer this night 1, i checked annul, found bullet bill & bodyguard. PM included flavor text of me having fun playing on the tire swing night 2, i checked coagulation, found mafia retard. night 3, i checked infundibulum, role name will be withheld since he's still alive and town | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh Node - Oracle??? youngminii L NB | ||
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1 certain mafia. 5 uncertain people. Today we lynch the certained mafia, lynch 1 uncertain person, I kill 1 uncertain person at night. Worst possible outcome: 1 dead mafia, 2 dead blue. Remaining: 3 uncertained people. Tomorrow: Double lynch and night kill. GG | ||
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On November 10 2010 10:12 Glasse wrote: dont forget the possibility that there would be a good liar in the "confirmed" list Unless, one of the dead Blue tripped us. That wouldn't happen. | ||
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On November 10 2010 10:25 Kenpachi wrote: Pandain what the hell? Your either lying or your role is inaccurate.. Sigh i dont understand.. how would my role be of Red? It wouldnt make sense to gain an advantage by lynching mafia if im mafia.. Like i stated earlier, it would be retarded if i was able to use my powers when i vote lynch town as mafia.. SUP. Also read.+ Show Spoiler + On November 10 2010 09:52 LunarDestiny wrote: Amber is Blue. infundibulum is BLUE This guy is insane. Pandain is BLUE Nemesis is BLUE. Kenpachi is RED. Cleaned List Pandain - BLUE Infundibulum - BLUE Kenpachi - RED Nemesis - BLUE Meapak_Ziphh Node - Oracle??? youngminii L NB Glasse - THIRD PARTY LunarDestiny - THIRD PARTY | ||
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On November 10 2010 10:41 L wrote: So, are you asking me to roleclaim or what's the story here? If roleclaiming helps you, then you should do it. | ||
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On November 10 2010 10:42 Kenpachi wrote: Heh i can be the Oracle in his place. It will be me Dude, you are dying today. You won't last until night. | ||
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On November 07 2010 08:22 KtheZ wrote: Considering that the state of the town is in complete disarray, I will now roleclaim. I am the detective. However, I suspect that I am an "insane detective". The reasons and my finding will be below. On night 1, I forgot to investigate anyone, being the lurker dumbass I was. On night 2, I investigated Pandain. I found him to be the MAFIA Garbage collector. On night 3, I investigated infinitestory, and found him to be the MAFIA ADD detective. Now, what the hell? Why would the mafia have an ADD Detective? This has led me to conclude that I am insane. Now, assuming I'm an insane detective, it is apparent that Pandain and infinitestory are town-aligned. I am no longer into lynching pandain; I had found him to be mafia, which is why i was so ardent in pursuing his lynch. I feel that infinitestory's results are now trustworthy, and that pandain did not lie about his role. If you think I am lying, look at my posts against pandain. I was so one-mindedly pursuing pandain because I thought he was mafia. However, this night has confirmed my sad suspicion that I am "insane". On November 09 2010 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yes, sorry. He was indeed insane (returned opposite alignment) | ||
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On November 10 2010 13:39 L wrote: Haha, wow. Maybe you should go back and actually read those posts before commenting them, because you've falsely characterized half my arguments. My statements regarding DrH on the top, for instance, were actually a defence of DrH's statement that he could be 100% confirmed. The rest of the post, similarly, and perhaps oddly, ignores RoL's idea that there might be a godfather in the game, and that its probably pandain. Why is that odd? Well, because you're 'confirmed' because he has you on his list. But if his list is bullshit, then so is your confirmation. Oh but wait, if his list is bullshit, then Kenpachi might be blue too, and lynching me/him would win you the game. If you were blue, you'd know you aren't confirmed, and that pandain isn't either. Between you just plain lying about my positions, playing scummy all game, and overzealously trying to claim that you're confirmed, there doesn't seem to be much room for doubt. You've pretty much cemented that you/pandain are mafia in my mind. Give concrete reason why this list is bullshit. If you can't, we will continue discussing who on the uncertain is to be lynch. + Show Spoiler + On November 10 2010 09:52 LunarDestiny wrote: Amber is Blue. infundibulum is BLUE This guy is insane. Pandain is BLUE Nemesis is BLUE. Kenpachi is RED. Cleaned List Pandain - BLUE Infundibulum - BLUE Kenpachi - RED Nemesis - BLUE Meapak_Ziphh Node - Oracle??? youngminii L NB Glasse - THIRD PARTY LunarDestiny - THIRD PARTY | ||
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So are you saying that Kitz who checked Pandain lying? So we should believe that Coag told a dt to check Pandain, to prove Pandain is blue when he should be mafia. Ok. Next game when a red ask a dt to check on someone. That person is Godfather. i should follow that advice next game too. | ||
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On November 10 2010 14:11 LunarDestiny wrote: So are you saying that Kitz who checked Pandain lying? So we should believe that Coag told a dt to check Pandain, to prove Pandain is blue when he should be mafia. Ok. Next game when a red ask a dt to check on someone. That person is Godfather. i should follow that advice next game too. | ||
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On November 10 2010 14:19 L wrote: No, I'm saying that if Pandain is godfather, he'll be able to choose what his check returns, and if that's the case, his star pupil over there, Nemesis, isn't confirmed either. Again... Ok. Next game when a red ask a dt to check on someone. That person is Godfather. i should follow that advice next game too. | ||
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On November 10 2010 14:21 L wrote: Alternatively, Pandain might be 100% legit, and Nemesis could be the GF. Either way, I'm pretty certain Nemesis is mafia, because he's literally a walking encyclopedia of scumtells at this point. Yeah, they are a much better lynch than those have no concrete information to prove their innocence. | ||
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On November 10 2010 14:33 L wrote: Uh, making one liners is a sign of feigned activity. They're called chaff posts and typically indicate nothing unless they form the vast majority of a player's statements, in which case he's inactive and trying to appear otherwise. How is this new? As for lunar: they are, actually. When you have Divinek, RoL and Coag in game actions all pointing at Pandain's guilt, its pretty huge. Add that to Nemesis admitting he wanted to sit back and watch the game during a period in which 2 blues were the lynch targets, and then the panoply of other gaffes he's made and you have fantastic lynches for today. Anyways, I suppose the town can decide the merits. I'm still not going to claim until Node shows up, because quite frankly I don't want to lose what's probably our only shot at winning. And when I say town, I mean town. Not third party. If the mafia win tonight, so does the third party. Which is kinda terrible, because it means this is a 6 to 5 vote and not a single townie can screw up or we lose. Mafia have a long road of winning and I don't have intention to win with mafia. On night 4, I killed Ace who I thought to be a 90ish% mafia at that point. Also, a lot of people accused Pandain being mafia (me included, see 5 hours before day3 lynch). You are still not pointing out solid information that Pandain is mafia. | ||
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Also Pandain say that Kenpachi is mafia. Like Coag after he was accused, Kenpachi already lost confidence to prove his innocence. Maybe you can give him some confidence by proving that he is not mafia. | ||
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On November 10 2010 14:42 Node wrote: I'll weigh in on stuff once I sort my thoughts out. In the meantime, I have predicted my own death. Such a baller prediction. Props to you. With 4 uncertain people. Tomorrow is GG. | ||
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Kenpachi's confidence meter: On November 10 2010 10:35 Kenpachi wrote: ##Vote Kenpachi Im fucking screwed over.. somehow, Pandain got me as Red even though im not so, ILL BELIEVE HIM BECAUSE HES SO ACCURATE AND VOTE MYSELF TO USE MY SPECIAL POWER.. + Show Spoiler + jk gg On November 10 2010 10:36 Kenpachi wrote: ##Vote Pandain actually ive been given confidence On November 10 2010 12:15 Kenpachi wrote: ##Vote Kenpachi Nope. no confidence here. Im red.. + Show Spoiler + from RAGING On November 10 2010 12:15 Kenpachi wrote: ##Vote Kenpachi ~_~ | ||
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On November 10 2010 14:59 Pandain wrote: Prob because, like coag, he knew he had got caught so just resorted to spamming the thread. 'night. Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. | ||
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On November 10 2010 15:01 L wrote: Like Coag? No, Coag gave up and started calling pandain mafia and spammed the thread until he died. Kenpachi put forth his argument, saw that no one wanted to even bother considering that Pandain was lying and stopped bothering. If you want 'proof' that someone's mafia, you aren't going to get it outside of someone being a DT, checking someone, then dying. Either that, or having a role and using it. Outside of that, there's really very little 'proof' someone can muster. Want a demonstration? 1) Pandain claims he checks alignments, he can't prove it. 2) Pandain claims Nemesis is blue, he can't prove it. 3) Pandain claims Kenpachi is red, he can't prove it. So what standard of information do you want to use here? Town can decide. Not you. You win the game if mafia Ace this lynch. Sorry for doubting you, but I typically don't trust players who have a win right in front of them who say they won't take it. On the plus side, Node finally arrived and told us who's dying, so I can go ahead and reveal that I'm the Junkie. I've got 2 night lives and once per game I get to pm the mods and tell them I have murrayitis. If i'm wrong, I die. If i'm right, they give me drugs to cure the disease. Being a terrible drug addict, they don't actually work on me, but they give me a night hit. I've breadcrumbed this pretty much once per day, by throwing up huge mrus posts while no one else was talking about it. Now that Ace's role flipped as mrus spreader and given that he hates my face, I'm pretty sure I have mrus. So tonight I'll either die, or I'll get to hit someone. I fully expect both third party members to push me today because Lunar'll probably be afraid of my hit. Nemesis/Pandain is probably a given as well. To everyone else, specially you if you're not lying, Kenpachi, please read carefully. First off, we are lynching Kenpachi because Pandain checked him to be red. My "Kenpachi lost his confidence" is not solid proof but that just how some mafia act when a dt checked them. Secondly if you are going with the fact that we shouldn't trust dt before they are confirmed, then a lot of mafia from other games would have gotten away. We should trust Pandain because our Insane (LSB confirm the "Insane" characteristic will make alignment flip flop) detective checked Pandain and got Mafia Trash Collector. Also following with Nemesis's argument, I propose to lynch you because of the following reasons: 1) You are one of the uncertain people. 2) As a very good mafia player yourself, you have not contributed any result to town. In other mafia games, you tend to take control of town at some point in game and will propose a very solid plan for town. You did not do that in this game. 3) I don't want the possibility that you are mafia and leading them with your experience. For most part, we should lynch you because you could be much more valuable as a mafia to the mafia than it is valuable as a town to the town. | ||
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You accused me that I can also win with the mafia. I think we (everyone except L) are very certain that Pandain is telling the truth and that Kenpachi is mafia. After today's lynch, the mafia will have at most 2 members left. How can Glasse and I win with mafia when their victory condition is to have majority in town??? 2 mafia members+Glasse+me=4 Given the remaining 2 mafia members survive, mafia needs at most 3 players left. 4>3... Therefore glasse and I can't win with the mafia, and that is the absolute reason why Glasse and I have NO incentive to help mafia whatsoever. | ||
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Artanis say that Mafia need to kill all town players to win. Also said that they don't need to kill third party. LSB say that The mafia wins if their number is more than the town players. The example LSB gave: 2 town, "2 secete alliance", 3 mafia. The mafia win and you win. He never defined "secete alliance." Can you clarify LSB? In conclusion, there is no mentioning about the "secret vote" even though I ask them specifically about it. Also, our votes as third party does not count toward mafia's votes. So the math 3 mafia+1 secret vote+2 third party is BS. | ||
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On November 11 2010 04:29 L wrote: Uh, if the mafia control the day lynch, they kill a townie, then go back to night where they and you can kill s'more townies until they're numerically superior to the town. Once mafia control our day lynch, we lose. Period. Dear town: Lunar is arguing that its okay for the mafia to have enough votes to win control our lynch. I mean, shit, that's fucked right up. I am arguing that it is almost impossible for Third Party to win with the mafia. That gives me no incentive to work with them. Winning with town is much easier since we have to get the remaining 3 mafia. L, is there anyone else that agree with you that Kenpachi is not mafia? | ||
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On November 11 2010 04:35 L wrote: Uh, you're arguing that its almost impossible for the third party to win with mafia with this example? THATS TOMORROW. Jesus Christ, you just quoted a mod giving you the exact numbers we'll have tomorrow if you and the mafia push this lynch through, and you're saying its impossible? This is unreal. So me the math please? | ||
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Right now there are 6 town 3 mafia 2 third party Lynch both third party on day5: 6 town 3 mafia mafia 2 night kill on night 5: 4town 3mafia Town lynch someone on day 6 A)4town, 2mafia or B)3town, 2mafia Night 6: A)mafia 2 night kill on night 6 2town, 2 mafia B)mafia 2 night kill on night 6 1town 2 mafia I like your plan that you lynch both third party... | ||
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Why don't you just say you are the mafia and want the third party to buy your plan... Oh wait, then the town will just lynch you. | ||
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What I got out of it are: Fact: So me the Car Facts? Claim: -You roleclaim someone with 2 night lives. Any point in the game you point the mod. If you don't have M-Rus, you die. Got M-Rus, you get a night kill. -Lynch both third party. At night, assuming what you said about your role is true (-.-), 3town die or 2 town 1mafia die. Remaining 3 town 3 mafia or 4town 2 mafia. Then M-RUS have the potential to kill some people. Then town work with 1 lynch and mafia work with 2 nightkill. | ||
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On November 11 2010 05:29 L wrote: You aren't town, and your numbers are off. Go do your math again. You and Glasse aren't counted in the 6 remaining blues, because hey, look at that, you aren't blue. There are 11 people alive. 6 town. 3 mafia, and you two. If we lynch you two tonight, we end with 6 town/3 mafia. If they hit 2 of us and I hit one of them, we end up with 4/2. 4/2 means mrus pops, we probably go down to 2/1. Lylo for the game. The alternative is that we lose straight up tonight. My numbers aren't off... We now have 6 town, 3mafia, 2 third. You propose that town lynch the 2 third->6town 3mafia. At night 2 mafia night kill, you claim to have a KP will use it (ASSUMING YOU ARE NOT LYING AND ASSUMING YOU GOT M-RUS)->3 town dead or 2 mafia 1 town dead. Remaining 3 town 3 mafia OR 4town 2 mafia. My math is GOOD? ASSUMING that someone is not lying AND ASSUMING that someone got M-RUS AND ASSUMING that someone does a successful hit is also GOOD too. | ||
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On November 11 2010 06:53 Ace wrote: oh come on, how many hoops does this circus act have? L failed to get me dead. Woo. | ||
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On November 11 2010 06:52 Pandain wrote: However that still means you could ally with them.... I'll have to analyze this... after some sc2 first  If town believe in L, I will shut up. | ||
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It is now Day 5! You have 48 hours to vote. Remember that a double lynch is active, so you have to vote twice. Should everyone have voted earlier, I will close the votes earlier. | ||
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On November 11 2010 06:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Regarding win condition: Mafia need to kill all non-mafia non-third party members to win. LSB is wrong in this. I decided on this ruling because a number of things could still jeopardize mafia victory even if they gain a numerical advantage in town, therefore they wouldn't be assured victory. L, you never respond to this new information. Can you tell me how the third party can benefit if they were to side with the mafia? You are a very good thinker, so I thought you can do the thinking for me. | ||
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On November 11 2010 13:29 L wrote: Uh, the moment mafia gains control of the lynch, they win. If it takes a few days longer for them to shred through everyone, so be it. The only ways to stop that is through mrus popping (which is unreliable) or me shooting them which might involve me dying anyways. Besides my hit, there might be another blue with something that could save us, but they can't claim without getting hit or lynched, given that mafia can brute force a lynch today. As for you not knowing who to vote: the secret mafia vote is pretty cool, bro. Lets you vote train on someone and not be afraid of anything. Dude, I got the M-Rus, If the mafia can't end the game fast, why should I side with them? | ||
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On November 11 2010 14:04 L wrote: Because mafia are less likely to have mrus given that they were the spreaders, so killing them will increase the likelihood of you setting off the mrus bomb on yourself, whereas if you cooperate with them, they can pick targets that they know they had spread mrus to? You just gave us another reason to doubt that you can work with town and win the game. Well done. Look, another ASSUMPTION that mafia are less likely to have M-rus. You know what their roles are? Also what makes you think that even losing their plague doctor, they have not contact M-Rus when doing night actions. On November 10 2010 09:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Had to make a correction: 3 people are infected, not 4. One person that was targetted was immune. Your claimed night kill... will save town. Well, I like FACTS, so here it is. 3 people are infected. One of them is me. No one knows who is the immune person. 3infected-Me=2other infections 11players-Me=10players 2/10=.2=20% you got nice chance of doing your night action. O.O you got an ASSUMPTION huh? I'll do it for you as well. 3infected-Me=2other infections 11players-Me-3mafia=7players 2/7=.28571... about 29% (I'll even rounded it up for you). Anyone likes L's Assumption? Anyone even trust him? | ||
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On November 11 2010 14:48 L wrote: If mrus is mafia controlled, like Ace's role suggests, then naturally they're going to have 3-4 nights worth of targetted spreading on players who aren't mafia. I already bothered to tell you this, yet you don't seem to want to put 2 and 2 together. Or I'll die. Either/Or. If I'm killed in today's lynch, we lose anyways, so might as well go with the only path to victory available. Given that Ace was the primary spreader and has spent pretty much every single game besides this one riding my nuts, I'm pretty certain he'd have aids'd me up. So yeah, You think Meapak and I are equally likely to be the target of night actions? Not so, my good man. You think Kenpachi has an equal chance of being mrus'd as I do? I mean, these are players who essentially didn't exist for all intents and purposes until today. Mafia wouldn't have decided they were worth a premium to set up, because they're bad players. In the event that Mrus goes off mafia wants to be facing down a bunch of garbage town players. The alternative isn't really any brighter, but if anyone else has a role that they can use on me during the night that would spread mrus and not otherwise be wasted, they can do so. I've checked with the mods and they've stated that my mrus is checked after the night's round of infections. Nemesis seems to have a role he can use on people consistently. Meapak doesn't. Node doesn't. Dunno what infund has. Kenpachi claimed Hero and can't use his abilities yet. And why do always want me to work with mafia??? It's like I say "No" and you say "you should." Going on... Ace interacted with you? Damn, it must be a big deal since I missed it. Also what did you do prior to this day that? Only thing I remember is you keep on accusing Nemesis as mafia even after he was checked. Did you do something else that you want to share with me? (start with day 2 since that is when you replaced the modkilled) And why do you still think Kenpachi is innocent? That both Pandain and Nemesis are mafia? Nothing support your Godfather claim. Don't give me that if there is a Godfather, he should be checked by a DT by now and therefore one of the checked blue role is the Godfather. | ||
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On November 11 2010 15:20 Kenpachi wrote: Actually L, it would be 3/1/2 or 4/0/2 because we dont know if Glasse has the virus and we know Lunar has the virus.. right? Your friend L gave you confidence? | ||
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On November 11 2010 15:21 Kenpachi wrote: hey hey hey hey hey i have the most crucial role as townie imo. But you went from Hero to Zero... maybe you can be the Mafia Hero. | ||
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No, I don't want you to work with mafia. I know you will, though, because it WINS YOU THE GAME INSTANTLY. Oh yeah. I shouldn't have hit on Ace AND shouldn't have reveal ourself to town. Everything we did is for winning with the mafia. Ace and I have history. Feel free to read older games that we're both in. They inevitably end in one of us killing the other. Hence why I think Ace was happy to poison me. You do know that you haven't prove yourself as town right? Mafia does not target mafia with M-RUS. Uh, COAG ASKED FOR PANDAIN TO GET DT CHECKED DAY ONE. I don't know if Pandain AND Nemesis are mafia, but I'm 99% certain one of them is. Best strategy EVER!!! Should put this in MAFIA 101. A red that ask a dt to check a specific person on day 1, that person is likely to be Mafia. If that person also claim dt and check someone else. That person is also likely to be mafia. | ||
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On November 11 2010 15:56 youngminii wrote: I'M A CORSAIR BITCHES Wait if KtheZ was insane and Pandain was red by an insane check then he's blue, then he's telling the truth and kenpachi is red? i'm confused I'll do an unbiased summary for you. KtheZ is an insane DT. Stated by LSB, he check for role and opposite alignment. One of his check is Pandain, the mafia trash collector. Pandain also checked Nemesis to be blue and Kenpachi to be red. L claims that either Pandain or Nemesis is Godfather because Uh, COAG ASKED FOR PANDAIN TO GET DT CHECKED DAY ONE. I don't know if Pandain AND Nemesis are mafia, but I'm 99% certain one of them is. | ||
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On November 12 2010 02:11 Pandain wrote: MAn, I still don't see how people can be so blind as to continue the charade that I'm godfather. There's two possibilities why: 1.You are mafia. 2.You are a townie who hasn't realized all the reasons why I'm obviously blue. Which is it? As for the 3rd party thing, you have a good point. Lunnar/Glasse, do you have a kp as a team, or just lunar. I want to cooperate, but if L insist that I have no intention to win with town and town have no intention to not kill third party. Why should I even tell you guys? ...Well, looks like the only one that don't trust me is L. There have been suspicion that of me by others but not that much. We make I deal? You don't lynch me today. I will give you the information. I will use my nightkill to help town. If this asking too much? | ||
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On November 12 2010 04:26 Pandain wrote: How 'bout you tell us now? If I tell, town can decide if they want to use 1 lynch or 2 lynch to take out third party. Like I said, you can believe me that I will use my nightkill for town, I can't say anything about how I am going to use it or it will fail. There is nothing I can do as of now to convince town that I will cooperate with them. | ||
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On November 12 2010 04:49 youngminii wrote: You realise L's the only one pining for you, and will probably change his vote later anyway? If I tell you, I will tell the mafia as well. They use a night kill to take me out just as easy. Someone will then say: well, why should the mafia use a nightkill on you? And why is it beneficial to both town and I to reveal the nightkill? | ||
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On November 12 2010 05:00 LunarDestiny wrote: If I tell you, I will tell the mafia as well. They use a night kill to take me out just as easy. Someone will then say: well, why should the mafia use a nightkill on you? And why is it beneficial to both town and I to reveal the nightkill? Tell, you what. If I survive the lynch, I will tell. Does it make such a difference that the town can't wait? They are not lynching me today right? | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:17 LunarDestiny wrote: 30 minutes hopefully he doesnt change what was already setup by mafia (like changing a kill for you) ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: artanis said 23 hours at 9pm kst, its almost 8pm kst so in about 5 minutes ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: Do you know how much time before day 5? I pmed LSB and even he is not sure. Artanis hasn't gave me a reply. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: well just cut my name from it then one of us needs to stay alive if the mafia decides to target you, at least i can still use the kp ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: Again, I will claim that I will kill Ace after night actions freeze but before day post is posted to gain the maximum trust from town. If Ace wasn't Killed (I was roleblock or medic save Ace), then I might have to quote every conversation of our to prove my innocence. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: you can say as much as you want, just mention that you have a teamate but don't say who. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: Tomorrow I will claim as vigilante and say I killed both Ace and deconduo. It is no surprise that I will receive tons of questions. Like I said before, winning in our current situation is very hard. So how much information should I give to town? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: thats what i meant, you did it before so why change i'll let you have the honor ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: Did you do it? If not, I think it is better that I do it myself. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Gollum: do it NOW ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LunarDestiny: Please send the night action to both mods. "##Kill: Ace" Yes, it is third party kill power. We can both use it. | ||
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Killed deconduo. Not intentionally do it for town. But it still benefited town. Killed Ace. I could have followed my third target (Veldril). I didn't. I targeted the one who lied to town. Told town about everything in fear that I will die and town will still be confused about the mafia death. All I get is a lynch. Nice. | ||
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On November 12 2010 06:00 Kenpachi wrote: dude its natural for Pandain to go after you after killing some mafia. he knows youre a threat so hes going to try to eliminate you. If you die and turn got to be a fallen hero. I'll kill Pandain for you... | ||
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Give me a reason that I targeted Ace instead of my third target Veldril? | ||
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On November 12 2010 06:16 Node wrote: And I don't think there's anyway Nemesis could have known that without being the person that immunized me. Nope, all plauge doctors are dead. Veldril was the last one... But he might be another kind of "stick". | ||
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On November 12 2010 06:23 youngminii wrote: Shouldn't everyone with mrus like, claim now or something? They don't know if they have M-Rus. I was told I have M-rus because Artanis pity on me and say that my last target, Veldril, was the last plague doctor. | ||
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On November 12 2010 06:30 L wrote: Oh hey, holding the town hostage? That's cute. Too bad upon re-reading your earlier posts you revealed that its a team kp and that you can win if one of you is killed. Don't understand this post??? Read everything before posting please. | ||
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Take it or left it. I can't prove this unless I quote the mod pm. I did say Veldril was the last plauge doctor before day5. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6929255 | ||
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On November 12 2010 06:45 L wrote: Oh good point. Doesn't change the fact that you tried to blackmail the town. Classy. I blackmail the TOWN for a total of LESS THAN A HOUR. Give me a pat on the back now. I was blackmail by town for almost the entire day5. | ||
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This is the absolutely true. You can quote this. | ||
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Thank god for reasoning. | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:45 LunarDestiny wrote: ALSO, don't lynch Veldril, HE IS TOWN!!! On November 10 2010 08:45 LunarDestiny wrote: ALSO, don't lynch Veldril, HE IS TOWN!!! Best thing I can do to help. 1st post is before day5. 2nd post is after day 5 | ||
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On November 12 2010 07:51 LunarDestiny wrote: Best thing I can do to help. 1st post is before day5. 2nd post is after day 5 FIXED. | ||
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L screwed with you guys. AND pandain, I am dragging you with me. | ||
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Then you can work from there. Peace. | ||
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Glasse will night kill Pandain. | ||
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I am Bullet Proof. Both Ace and L also in their post hint it is so. | ||
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Kenpachi, I am building you a grave. | ||
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You are the Plague Doctor. During the night you can protect someone. If you protect someone they are cured of Murrayitis (if they have it), and a possible hit is prevented. However, if mafia hits the person you are protecting and they have Murrayitis, you both are killed because you are too busy to defend yourself. On the first night, you won't be able to protect anyone as you're just finishing the cure to Murrayitis. Note that if you use night actions when you are infected, the people you come into contact with will get Murrayitis too. AH!!! Artanis, you lied and that is insane. | ||
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On November 12 2010 08:20 LunarDestiny wrote: Nemesis the Plague Doctor has been lynched. You are the Plague Doctor. During the night you can protect someone. If you protect someone they are cured of Murrayitis (if they have it), and a possible hit is prevented. However, if mafia hits the person you are protecting and they have Murrayitis, you both are killed because you are too busy to defend yourself. On the first night, you won't be able to protect anyone as you're just finishing the cure to Murrayitis. Note that if you use night actions when you are infected, the people you come into contact with will get Murrayitis too. AH!!! Artanis, you lied and that is insane. Nevermind, you say that Veldril is a plague doctor... | ||
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On November 12 2010 08:57 youngminii wrote: LD whatchya gonna do for the night Moral decision or we don't want to be epicly owned. | ||
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Status #teamliquidX GlasseX [15:43] <Glasse> yo [15:43] == Glasse [~Glasse@bas19-montreal02-1128694905.dsl.bell.ca] [15:43] == realname : Glasse [15:43] == channels : #SoloMid.NET #teamliquid [15:43] == server : *.quakenet.org [QuakeNet IRC Server] [15:43] == account : Glasse [15:43] == End of WHOIS [15:43] <Glasse> so being banned sucks [15:43] <Glasse> i saw that coming :3 [15:43] <Glasse> we need to kill L and not pandain imo [15:44] <LunarDestiny> wait we must confirm each other first [15:44] <Glasse> ok [15:44] <Glasse> send me a pm ill type it back here [15:44] <Glasse> copy* [15:47] <LunarDestiny> i sent it [15:47] <Glasse> Sent [15:47] <Glasse> [15:47] <Glasse> Private Message [15:47] <Glasse> From: LunarDestiny [ 3192 posts | Profile | Buddy ] [15:47] <Glasse> Subject: send this back [15:47] <Glasse> Date: 11/12/10 08:46 [15:47] <Glasse> abcde [15:47] <LunarDestiny> artanis sent me a warning [15:47] <LunarDestiny> If either glasse or you die, the other gets removed from the game as surviving was a prequistice for winning the game. [15:47] <Glasse> what the fuck [15:48] <Glasse> he needed to fucking tell us that before we say anything.. [15:48] <LunarDestiny> also, we can risk winning with L, but there is a high possibly that we will be double crossed [15:49] <Glasse> l and pandain are both mafia :3 [15:49] <LunarDestiny> the mafia 2nightkill combine with our nightkill can not win the game by tonight. but a successful lynch tomorrow can. [15:49] <LunarDestiny> do you trust them [15:50] <Glasse> wait are you pming them? [15:50] <LunarDestiny> alternatively, if we don't want to win and what to give some payback to mafia we can [15:50] <LunarDestiny> I haven't receive anything from them [15:51] <LunarDestiny> if we want to help town we can hit either L or Pandain [15:51] <LunarDestiny> the math is like this [15:51] <LunarDestiny> 4 blue, 3 mafia, 2 third [15:52] <LunarDestiny> mafia will hit 2 blue tonight [15:52] <Glasse> if you can work with the mafia [15:52] <Glasse> we can win with them [15:52] <LunarDestiny> not exactly, and dying this way would be epic fail [15:53] <LunarDestiny> 3 infected right now [15:53] <Glasse> so i guess pandain or L are our only 2 targets [15:54] <LunarDestiny> yes, if we want town to win [15:54] <LunarDestiny> before making our decision, I will act like I will work with them [15:54] <LunarDestiny> this will give town a confirm blue [15:57] <LunarDestiny> So what do you think [15:58] <LunarDestiny> I have confident that I can help town get in a very good position... but we are very unlikely to win [15:58] <LunarDestiny> If we side with them, we have like 30% of getting epicly owned. [15:58] <Glasse> well im 100% sure at least one of us will be hit tonight [15:58] <LunarDestiny> mafia have 2 nightkill and their winning condition is to kill all town [15:58] <Glasse> wait don't they only have 1? [15:59] <LunarDestiny> i don't know. [15:59] <LunarDestiny> they got a standard nightkill and a forshadowed nightkill predicted by node [15:59] <Glasse> true 1+1 [15:59] <LunarDestiny> futhermore, I believe Pandain is the mafia Godfather [16:00] <Glasse> i think that too [16:01] <LunarDestiny> back to the math, if we don't care about winning [16:01] <LunarDestiny> 4 blue right now, mafia chose to hit 2, 2 blue remaining [16:01] == No such nick: Glasse [16:01] <Glasse> test [16:02] <Glasse> can you see this? [16:02] <LunarDestiny> ok... [16:02] <Glasse> can you see this? :O [16:02] <LunarDestiny> yes [16:02] <Glasse> ok [16:02] <Glasse> i got dc'd [16:02] <Glasse> :3 [16:02] <LunarDestiny> If we want to win, our most likely choice is with mafia [16:03] <LunarDestiny> Do you want to win? [16:03] <Glasse> they'll probably fuck us over [16:03] <LunarDestiny> so...? [16:04] <Glasse> i guess we have to [16:04] <Glasse> who are they hitting [16:04] <Glasse> so we can hit someone else? :3 [16:06] <Glasse> cuz if we work with them you need to ask in the thread who they are hitting and who we should hit [16:07] <LunarDestiny> what is your decision [16:07] <Glasse> dude you're the guy thats not banned so its yours, i'd go with the win with mafia however [16:07] <Glasse> doubt we can win with town at this point [16:08] <Glasse> do you agree with that? [16:08] <LunarDestiny> I don't care either way. [16:09] <LunarDestiny> Which side? Town or Mafia? [16:09] <Glasse> i don't really care... [16:09] <Glasse> mafia i guess [16:09] <LunarDestiny> ok. OptionsAdd webchat to your sitePrivacy policyFeedbackFrequently asked questionsAbout qwebirc | ||
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[16:10] <Glasse> probably a bad idea but meh, i gave up on winning when we decided to reveal everything anyway [16:15] <Glasse> putting it all on me! [16:15] <Glasse> wtf! [16:15] <Glasse> [16:15] <Glasse> lol [16:17] <LunarDestiny> I can't stand the responiblity | ||
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On November 12 2010 09:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: All actions are in. Day post to follow shortly. I smell Epic Fail, but whatever. At least I wasn't wrong that L is mafia. Better improve my debating skill. | ||
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[16:21] <Glasse> dude i just hit f5 to see if you said anything on irc :3 now i feel like stoopid cat [16:21] <Glasse> rofl [16:22] <LunarDestiny> ok [16:22] <LunarDestiny> when will you get unbanned [16:22] <Glasse> You have been banned until Nov 12 2010. Banned users cannot post or send PMs [16:22] <Glasse> gonna guess midnight [16:23] <Glasse> that was like the worst time to get caught in a dumb console vs pc argument [16:24] <Glasse> [16:24] <LunarDestiny> If you want to say anything to the players. You can post here and I can post it there. [16:25] <Glasse> ok so copy this: [16:25] <Glasse> I already found that artanis is the most evil person ever created, so he probably is satan himself [16:25] <Glasse> and i doubt he eats cat [16:26] <LunarDestiny> done? [16:26] <Glasse> yea | ||
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Uh, COAG ASKED FOR PANDAIN TO GET DT CHECKED DAY ONE. I don't know if Pandain AND Nemesis are mafia, but I'm 99% certain one of them is. Best strategy EVER!!! Should put this in MAFIA 101. A red that ask a dt to check a specific person on day 1, that person is likely to be Mafia. If that person also claim dt and check someone else. That person is also likely to be mafia. | ||
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Notice L and Pandain's votes are recorded to be at 8:00 The deadline for the voting is Midnight CET. TL does not record the second. There is no way that both L and Pandain vote on 8:00:00 flat Anytime from 8:00:01 and onward is after the deadline and thus not counted. | ||
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On November 12 2010 09:51 NB wrote: sr guys, i afk for too long... i was in too many event recently, offline as well as online.... Will try my best to keep track but im quite sure after this game i wont be playing any mafia for quite a while ^^... Town Hwaiting!!! im trying to read to catch up... i think panda and youngminii are quite suspicious... ... I going to tell you that L and Pandain are mafia. Looks like you got a huge advantage now... | ||
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On November 12 2010 10:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote: there is an epic quotes thread I remember, you switched votes to spare pandain. But I am the one that warned LSB that we got an extra hour... | ||
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On November 12 2010 10:16 Fishball wrote: Trash Collector that can check alignments, yet... people buy it. Look what he found in the trash, Being Mafia For DUMMIES. | ||
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On November 12 2010 10:26 youngminii wrote: well that's what you @#$%ers get for siding with scum I actually prefer myself losing. | ||
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On November 12 2010 11:28 Coagulation wrote: Also i would like to bitch about having the most retarted mafia role ever. Well, there are more retard mafia role like: Watcher - I still can't accept. Kita was screwed having to roleclaim it. Flash - LOL. Everyone would laugh at Youngminii if he roleclaimed. | ||
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On November 12 2010 11:49 Ace wrote: Yea I felt bad for Dr.H. While he wasn't always on the right track the Town was so bad he never had a chance to cut through all the bullshit. By the time Infinitestory came around it was too late. I guess now Dr.H knows how it feels to appear so pro-town and have to deal with bad townies and Scum undermining you and how hard it is to find the difference. I felt like this too... Except I am not pro-town by definition but was trying to be as pro town as I could. I felt it I dealt with afk townies instead of bad townie. I took the short way out at the end when I make Glasse decide to side with town or side with mafia. | ||
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On November 12 2010 12:10 flamewheel wrote: I'm so confused so confused about this game. 216 pages is too much to read though... A lot of it isn't about the game at all. Just people smack talking with each others. | ||
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