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On November 10 2010 13:39 L wrote:
Haha, wow. Maybe you should go back and actually read those posts before commenting them, because you've falsely characterized half my arguments. My statements regarding DrH on the top, for instance, were actually a defence of DrH's statement that he could be 100% confirmed.
The rest of the post, similarly, and perhaps oddly, ignores RoL's idea that there might be a godfather in the game, and that its probably pandain.
Why is that odd? Well, because you're 'confirmed' because he has you on his list. But if his list is bullshit, then so is your confirmation. Oh but wait, if his list is bullshit, then Kenpachi might be blue too, and lynching me/him would win you the game. If you were blue, you'd know you aren't confirmed, and that pandain isn't either.
Between you just plain lying about my positions, playing scummy all game, and overzealously trying to claim that you're confirmed, there doesn't seem to be much room for doubt. You've pretty much cemented that you/pandain are mafia in my mind.
LOL you are using RoL's idea that there is a godfather role and it's probably Pandain when RoL flipped red. So you are using an argument that another red used to try and lynch someone? Can you be any more scummy at this point?
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On November 10 2010 14:21 L wrote:
Alternatively, Pandain might be 100% legit, and Nemesis could be the GF. Either way, I'm pretty certain Nemesis is mafia, because he's literally a walking encyclopedia of scumtells at this point.
Walking scumtell?
Tell me who just recently changed their argument to "making a bunch of one liner and lightly accusing people" to "calling out for being inactive."
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So everyone's helping mafia now except you L, right?
I think that third party roles have already demonstrated that they are not on the mafia side right now by killing Ace. You are barking up the wrong tree. Trying to threaten them to work for you is not gonna work out.
And since you keep trying to somehow paint me and Pandain red, I will actually give proof that I am blue just to make you feel even more helpless. Which also confirms Pandain's role for the second time if people are actually too stupid to believe his argument.
NODE, confirm that I have visited you NIGHT 3, and since you already know my role, and that my role is blue
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On November 10 2010 15:01 L wrote:
Like Coag?
No, Coag gave up and started calling pandain mafia and spammed the thread until he died. Kenpachi put forth his argument, saw that no one wanted to even bother considering that Pandain was lying and stopped bothering.
If you want 'proof' that someone's mafia, you aren't going to get it outside of someone being a DT, checking someone, then dying. Either that, or having a role and using it. Outside of that, there's really very little 'proof' someone can muster.
Want a demonstration?
1) Pandain claims he checks alignments, he can't prove it.
2) Pandain claims Nemesis is blue, he can't prove it.
3) Pandain claims Kenpachi is red, he can't prove it.
So what standard of information do you want to use here? Town can decide. Not you. You win the game if mafia Ace this lynch. Sorry for doubting you, but I typically don't trust players who have a win right in front of them who say they won't take it.
On the plus side, Node finally arrived and told us who's dying, so I can go ahead and reveal that I'm the Junkie. I've got 2 night lives and once per game I get to pm the mods and tell them I have murrayitis. If i'm wrong, I die. If i'm right, they give me drugs to cure the disease. Being a terrible drug addict, they don't actually work on me, but they give me a night hit.
I've breadcrumbed this pretty much once per day, by throwing up huge mrus posts while no one else was talking about it.
Now that Ace's role flipped as mrus spreader and given that he hates my face, I'm pretty sure I have mrus. So tonight I'll either die, or I'll get to hit someone. I fully expect both third party members to push me today because Lunar'll probably be afraid of my hit. Nemesis/Pandain is probably a given as well. To everyone else, specially you if you're not lying, Kenpachi, please read carefully.
How does your role give you more information about murrayitis than other roles? In fact, how do you even know more than plague doctors. CubedIn who was the only doctor who roleclaimed, he never even once mentioned that mafia had a targeted spreader, which means the only one that knew that is mafia.
On November 11 2010 01:00 L wrote:
Basically the math goes like this:
Right now we're at 6 town, 2 3rd party, 3 mafia. If we lynch 1t/1m we end up with:
5 town, 2 third party, 2 mafia going into the night. Mafia have 1+1 hits and lunar has 1, which makes this:
2 town 2 third party, 2 mafia going into the next day. Town loses. By a lot. Including the secret vote, its 5 votes vs 2 town votes. Third party can't lynch mafia here either because the last remaining mafia player will hit them and make them lose.
I might die or get a kp if I claim tonight, so we're +1/-1. Our only hope if we split 1/1 on the lynch is that I shoot a mafia during the day so that third party doesn't need to worry about being killed. But mafia's decided to toss me under a wagon because I'm the only person bothering to not lose the game and they can't kill me during the night.
So yeah. Those are our only options if we want to win.
What is to stop mafia from killing thid party anyways? And what do you mean third party can't lynch mafia. Unless mafia tells them who they are, then they can't avoid lynching mafia anyways. And if mafia tells them who they are, what's to stop them from lynching them?
So no, your hypothetical scenario of third party helping mafia is far off.
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On November 11 2010 01:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Happy page 200 ppl.
L who do you suggest we lynch if you don't wanna lynch kenpachi?
Dun Dun Dun, three of the four unconfirmed people banding together with three mafias left. Coincidence? I think not.
I'm off for now, I have a midterm today and somehow I'm wasting my time here.
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Hahahaha, I can't believe that there are actually people who are buying your plan L. Seriously, are mafia really that desperate that they don't even know how to do math now?
Here is your plan as already outlined by LunarDestiny:
Right now there are
6 town
3 mafia
2 third party
Lynch both third party on day5:
6 town
3 mafia
mafia 2 night kill on night 5:
4town
3mafia +secretz mafia vote
MAFIA WINS
Town lynch someone on day 6
A)2town
2 third party
3mafia
(mafia wins)
or
B)3town
2 third party
2 mafia + secretz mafia vote
LYLO - town can still win if third party votes for mafia
or
C)4 town
2 third party
1 mafia + secretz mafia vote
Yes L's Plan leads to mafia winning. That is so protown of you right? You have been hanging around with kira too much.
Also consider that Pandain has been pretty much confirmed blue. If we follow the "confirmed blue" list we have a 2/3 chance of killing 2 mafias, and 1/3 chance of killing just 1 mafia.
Unless you actually think that RoL and L is correct about Pandain being Godfather which is ridiculous as why the hell would RoL put suspicion on the real Godfather when he has just been confirmed blue? Godfather has been given a free pass via being scanned and mafia would bus him?
So L, what's your next attempt at escaping the guillotine?
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Yes you are definitely right, we give up. Pandain is definitely godfather and you are definitely blue even though you have no argument.
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Also, where the hell is everyone? It just feels too quiet in here, it's weird. :X
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OMG, you guys are idiots, you are actually trusting L over a confirmed Role Checker. XD
If you are going to wifom about Pandain being godfather
Uh, COAG ASKED FOR PANDAIN TO GET DT CHECKED DAY ONE. I don't know if Pandain AND Nemesis are mafia, but I'm 99% certain one of them is.
Yes because mafia don't set other people up right? This whole game the majority of people pushing for Pandain to be lynched have been mafia if you want to WIFOM. RoL, a mafia, had been pushing for Pandain to be godfather the entire time. Now L continues his legacy and you guys believe him.
On November 09 2010 17:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
You have to be kidding me -_-; I go AFK for one night and the town becomes retarded. You guys need to think reasonably a lot more often and remember to put a lot of emphasis on what the plans of previous days were because usually when chaos like today happens its because we were close to something and we need to go back and figure out what it was.
First off, I read everything now. Pandain is the mafia godfather, I would say this with 99% certainty. His role checks out with KtheZ but his behavior has been anything but town. Pandain has been playing the role of the mafia aggressor to a tee. He attacked the shit out of DrH with half assed reasons hand in hand with another confirmed mafia. When we were debating between the lynch of the two I would say the mafia swayed that to try to get pandain to live a little longer, when coagulation was dead in the water. While all this is going on we can see plenty of posts from coagulation (from early days) recommending that we check all the mayoral candidates. The reason for this I would assume is because they knew he wouldn't come back as red. When pandain gets called out after the Coagulation lynch he keeps saying let me live and check me while claiming the most easy to fake town role.
Wow, most obvious setup ever and you still think Pandain is mafia? Seriously, if there is a godfather role in this game, why the hell would mafia reveal who he is after he's been checked?
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No, using double lynch today is our best option. I wanted to use double lynch before murayittis hits and wipes out a lot of us. It is also best to use it now while town members are a lot higher in numbers than mafia numbers.
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On November 12 2010 06:15 Node wrote:
Shit, I missed Nemesis' post asking for confirmation earlier. Sorry about that.
I was immunized on Night 3.
You stupid AARRRRRGHHHHHH.
Why the hell would you actually reveal my role? I was only asking you to confirm that I am blue. -.- This is why I haven't come forward until today, I knew something like this would happen.
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Lololol, why the hell are people actually voting me?
1. A confirmed detective comes and say that someone is red.
2. Lynch Detective and people who he checked blue.
3. ????
You are falling for the same trap we all fell too during the Ace/kitaman incident except this one is even more obvious. Although, granted we only fell for that because someone didn't claim to actually have done the hit -.-
And yes, I am actually a plague doctor. Can't help it now that node has basically revealed my role.
These are the people I protected
Night 2 - DCLXVI
Night 3 - Node
Night 4 - Infinitestory(I was roleblocked)
Note plague doctors can't do anything the first night night.
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WOw mafia has some sort of one-time use ability to change vote and L somehow survives -.-
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why pandain? 
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YOu guys not better listen to L's desperate pelase tomorrow-.-
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if town even somehow survives anyways
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I should've checked this thread earlier >.<
Well nicely played by mafia, GL Town
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Last minute change by mafia, seems they were planning it from the start 
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L and Pandain did a ninja vote
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lynch L first if possible
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