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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 04:50:23
November 12 2010 04:44 GMT
#4339
Regardless of the reasons, which isn't my point, I'm simply talking about patterns here.

6 Apples and 1 Orange.
What stands out?

Plus you guys saying that you have to replace a fellow Mafia member, further supports the logic that "someone else" is involved and is in the same group of the player being mod killed.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 12 2010 05:00 GMT
#4351
On November 12 2010 13:44 kingjames01 wrote:
I watched the entire game and I was not overly impressed with ANYONE's play. After the game, everyone is patting each other's backs and saying, "yeah, that was great how you pulled that off! You're a great player" or "that was some great analysis. You really got that right." NO! EVERYONE ELSE FUCKED UP.

I'm so mad. =(


Haha, I had the same feeling after reading youngminii's post-game posts.

For the record, I did asked medic's to protect you. You were the only guy in the game at that time that I thought, "this dude has to be fucking town".

On November 12 2010 13:50 kingjames01 wrote:
Also, it was CLEAR that Aeres tried to pretend to be a second bodyguard since he thought DCLXVI had accidentally outted himself. I understood as soon as it happened. The reason why I didn't bring it up was BECAUSE I understood as soon as it happened.

If you're FUCKING town, then put a little bit of thought into it, understand it and then go along with it, you shallow-minded fools. Don't make him explain himself. That negates the point of his move. He had a role which allowed him to take that risk. He took one for the team but you guys lynched him for it.


When Ace was going for LAL and some others supported, I came out and explained why Aeres could do a fake role claim as a Townie. I even pointed out the clues related to the Cruise Ship Captain role, which very possibly means the role exists and Aeres wasn't bull shitting about it. Town still lynched him, and I got myself mod killed for not being able to vote ;(
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 12 2010 05:02 GMT
#4354
On November 12 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote:
Okay you have to calm the fuck down.

Lynch All Liars is a pro-town policy that is designed to stop unneeded confusion. You do not make up roleclaims in situations like that. Maybe in the end game where it can help you avoid a lylo or where you can protect someone very important but in his situation, LAL is the best policy.


Did you ever think about this at all?

Unless you can get the LAL policy in every single game, as a general consensus, this will never be the best policy, and will only be abused by the Mafia as a scapegoat.

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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 12 2010 06:02 GMT
#4383
On November 12 2010 14:13 youngminii wrote:
I understand that kingjames is a good player, what I don't understand is why he's being such a jackass about it. Do you think Qatol or flamewheel don't /facepalm epically virtually every game? They see every flaw that we make but they don't throw a temper tantrum about it. If they have the discipline to not rage in every post-mafia game session, what makes you think you have the right to do so?


So, what's the difference between them?
Qatol and Flamewheel don't play.

I'm not justifying anything, but you should understand a player involved would be more riled up than pathetic bystanders
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 19:30:56
November 12 2010 19:27 GMT
#4410
On November 13 2010 04:19 Aeres wrote:
Oh crap, I missed the ending of the game. Good work, Mafia.

Now, I wanna post the death message that I was planning on when I was lynched; I didn't know I couldn't post this after my lynch, due to some miscommunication between me and Artanis, so I guess I'll post it now.

+ Show Spoiler +
Heh… looks like I got to visit the gallows after all. Unfortunately, I wasn't lying when I said I was a townie, as you guys already know at this point. Then again, I suppose your convictions against me were valid, if incorrect.

I'm not particularly happy about my death, but I don't blame you guys in the slightest. Hell, if that was any other player who had fake-claimed Bodyguard and fucked it up to the extent that you saw, I'd be voting for that guy's execution, too. So, I don't feel like my death was unjustified. I admit my idea for protecting the Doc, although feasible in theory, was just horribly played out. I blame that on A) being generally inexperienced, B) wanting to service the town within the limits of my role, C) liking the idea of being a sensationalist hero (lol), and D) not bothering to think anything through completely.

Truth be told, I suck. I wanted to improve, so I decided to try something unorthodox in a game I was participating in. There's only so much you can glean from reading past games, so I wanted to see if my observations of Ace, BC, L, the Doc, Qatol, and the other "Big Gunz" in TL Mafia would pay off. Clearly, they didn't.

I don't like being conservative in games like these. It's a great feeling to win debates and prove claims, especially in a team setting where your actions can win you the game, so I went on a much more active tack than my play in Haunted Mafia showed. I wanted that chance to be "the man", the guy whose actions were critical to the game. I did not meet the requirements for The Man™; in fact, my claim was about as believable as Blizzard's argument for IP rights in Korea. -.-

But I digress.

Good intentions, plausible ideas… terrible implementation. The story of my life… and now of my death.

Take care, guys. I'm most likely going to sit out the next Mafia game, partly so I don't inadvertently screw up the game again, partly due to schoolwork encroaching on my free time, and partly because of self-pity, I guess. It's pretty discouraging to have what you think is a sound plan getting shot down because of its utter stupidity, and then being derided as a stupid player. I'm not trying to QQ, but that's pretty much how I feel.

+ Show Spoiler +
As a final addendum to this little monologue, I'd like to throw a message out to the good Doc.

Doc, I'm fully aware that I'll sound like a creepy son of a bitch for saying this, but I defended you so adamantly early in the game because… I suppose it's because I look up to you as a player. A sort of icon, if you will, as to how a Mafia player should act and think. I want to emulate that set of qualities, but inexperienced as I am, I can't hope to do so just yet. I also felt that your abilities (not just your role, but your skills as a player) were vital to the town, so I wanted to protect you as best I could. In the end, I stabbed myself in the back, but I was convinced till the end that you were a townie. Taking one for the team isn't always a smart decision (as seen in my horrible fuckup), but I couldn't think of another way to help the town. My role was suited to protection, and who better to protect than the Mayor, who also happens to be a role model to me?


You could have just posted at the last minute, if you know you're going to get lynched.
But what the hell? That post isn't really game related. I was expecting strategic thoughts, clues, pointers, etc..
It's better to have you express your feelings and summarize it after the game has ended, like now.
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