EPTBecause I'm trying to defend accusations of being Scum, instead of telling you my role that means I must be scum?
How does that even make SENSE?!
Is anyone reading this thread?
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Ace
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Because I'm trying to defend accusations of being Scum, instead of telling you my role that means I must be scum? How does that even make SENSE?! Is anyone reading this thread? | ||
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On November 08 2010 11:07 kitaman27 wrote: I stated the night I watched him and he then confirmed he did not make an action on that date. There is no convenience as he did not reveal his actions prior to my declaration. Your argument is wrong. Pandain, look at Ace throwing you under the bus. I know Ace and I are of opposite alignments. I can see the possibility of you being a mislead town who bought into Ace's deceptive argument. That's why I have not pushed against you while you target me. READ! Amber never did anything for 3 nights. He never talked about having a role. So you choosing him isn't a big gamble - it's convenient. Why aren't you answering the other questions about your role not making sense with the rest of the game? You also don't think it's convenient that after Inf admits he hasn't used his role yet and that Is says he checked Inf you claim to have tracked/watched Inf Night 1? | ||
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You come out and say Amber didn't perform a night action. How is that a big gamble? Inf admitted he hasn't used his role. You come out and say Inf never performed a Night Action. That isn't convenient to you? you STILL haven't explained why your claim doesn't include me visiting someone. Watcher and Tracker will never say Ace was found at the scene of the crime. It will say I visited player x. So if I killed someone last night then who did I kill? You can't say because you're lying. | ||
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He said you didn't visit anyone the night he checked you. I said you never said anything about your role. Hence it's not a gamble to think you didn't do anything. He makes it sound as if me claiming he chose to check you is a big argument when it's not. I was saying he picked 2 players that had no information revealed about their Night Actions as part of his claim. Hence it's convenient. @Inf: Yea I was the mod that game. But I did not mix up your role description. What we have here is someone claiming Watcher, with Tracker powers but is missing the "Ace targeted/visited Player X" part. He claims I was involved in the killing last night but can't tell us who I killed. So how is his role legit? | ||
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On November 08 2010 11:22 Infundibulum wrote: my role can only do an action during Day. oh ok, guess that solves that. He still claimed it after I posted your quote from earlier here: On November 08 2010 04:53 Infundibulum wrote: It doesn't really matter, because my role doesn't do a whole lot. I haven't even used it this game :p This was posted before he claimed. You don't think it's convenient that after you say this he claimed he checked you Night 1? | ||
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I told bumatlarge not to ask Dr.H for his bodyguard's info (he didn't know it was hidden at the time) because it would make him look like scum. Do I get a free pass also? I don't have access to the role list but I have access to tons of Mafia games. You don't have a Tracker or Watcher role I know that for a fact. | ||
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If it doesn't make you innocent then it makes you guilty. Wtf? Amber has not claimed. Amber has not said anything about his night Actions. How does that make you innocent? I said it's not a gamble because Amber never revealed information. You say it makes you innocent. HOW does that make any sense? There is only 1 thing in your entire claim that makes sense. But the fact that you so readily assumed I am Mafia based on it just shows me your bullshitting. | ||
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On November 08 2010 14:35 kitaman27 wrote: I am a Dt who discovered Ace is mafia. Don't fall for this deception. I thought you were a Watcher/Tracker of some sort? So now you are a detective? Incredible. You can't even keep your fake claim straight. Something did happen last night. But I know your claim is wrong because you can't be Watcher/Tracker or you would have told me a name by now. So since you aren't either you are now a Detective. LOL. | ||
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We just had a long, long argument about why you can't be a Watcher or Tracker. But you clearly just said you are a detective who discovered Ace is Mafia. If thats the case why even argue about Watcher/Tracker? Your original post says: Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched. You did not say Ace is Mafia. You said Ace was involved in the hit. So you can't be a detective or you would have said plainly you investigated me to be Scum. You can't be a Watcher/Tracker because you don't have a target. If you were a legit Watcher/Tracker we wouldn't be having this conversation. I asked you WHO I'm linked to and you can't tell me. If you are a watcher/tracker then WHAT hit was I involved in last night? Are you really selling that the mod told you "Ace was involved in last night's hit" when there were 5 dead people? | ||
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On November 08 2010 15:09 kitaman27 wrote: Wait, so are you confirming that you were involved in a hit last night? Yep I was. Which is why I've been asking you about who the target was. | ||
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On November 08 2010 15:11 KtheZ wrote: Could you give an example of how a townie can be involved in a mafia hit? I'm just throwing out my ideas. I wasn't involved in a Mafia hit. You should read all the pages of this discussion. His claim doesn't reflect any role and doesn't fit with any of the other roles in the game. If it does then prove me wrong. | ||
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You said you got notification that I was involved in a hit last night. There were 5 dead bodies. So which hit was I involved in since you claim to have gotten this information from the mod? If you tracked me to "the hit" then there has to be some wording that tells you WHICH hit? Am I wrong to assume this? Otherwise you'd never know and there would be no way you could say I'm Scum. If that's not the case, then you are a detective. If you are a detective then you'd be able to say I'm Scum right? But you didn't - you said I was involved in a hit. See what I'm saying? Your claim doesn't add up. Really this is it: There were some hits last night. Ace was there. You yourself would have had to conclude I was Scum. I don't believe you're an innocent townie that messed up so that leaves one thing: You're Scum that messed up the fake claim. | ||
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Either he has Watcher/Tracker and can tell me who I was with last night or he has DT powers which wouldn't be able to tell him where I was. If he has DT powers AND Tracker/Watcher powers then why can't he answer the simple question of who the other person was? It's not adding up. | ||
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On November 08 2010 15:30 infinitestory wrote: hits last night: DrH (bussed by deconduo, likely swapped with NB) Cubed (roleblocked while protting self, killed) Beneather (confirmed to have had his voodoo doll on DrH) DCLXVI (confirmed to have died due to role, selfdestructed) deconduo (confirmed to have died due to DC's selfdestruct) so you were involved in the hit of either DrH or Cubed? Why the hell? If you were one of the guys mentioned in the day post, that means you either carried out a hit yourself or were the guy roleblocking Cubed. Since there is no reason to roleblock a confirmed medic, and DrH was confirmed 100% townie just before, I have to assume you decided to hit Cubed. But that doesn't make sense either. Were you somehow involved in a killing in a way not mentioned in the Day post? The possibilities dwindle, and so does the likelihood of you being town. btw this now means that every inspection that kitaman made has been correct, even if his role name is weird. I could have sworn I was the one who pushed the idea of duo being bombed by DC. Correct? Why would I out myself when I didn't have to? I don't have role blocking powers though. That would mean I role blocked Dr.H Night 1 when I wanted to know if he was legit. That doesn't make sense now does it? | ||
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On November 08 2010 15:35 infinitestory wrote: You're making assumptions. Nowhere has he said he can even figure out who the other person was. There's no reason to assume he will have exactly the role of a tracker OR exactly the role of a watcher, etc. Just because he can track someone like a tracker doesn't mean he can find the target like one, especially since the role appears to be named differently. I'm not making assumptions. I outlined this earlier: Doctor, Plague Doctor, Mayor, Vigilante, Detective, Bodyguard: Every single one of them have variations based on their original roles. None of them are named in a way that acts different from their original roles. So why would Kita be the only person so far that has a role that doesn't have any bearing on it's original? It does NOT fit with the rest of the roles in the game. | ||
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On November 08 2010 15:42 kitaman27 wrote: So you admit to performing a vig type role on Deconduo and then proceed to provide a false outline of what happened that night. Sounds like an unnecessary lie that you know better than to commit. And that's not even getting to the fact that Deconduo has been relatively quiet. What could lead you to using up a vig role on him? I admit to having some kind of killing role and that I targeted Deconduo. I didn't provide a false outline of what happened that night - I was trying to make sense of what happened that night. There very well could have been a bomb on duo for all I know that didn't go off. I clearly was interacting in a discussion of piecing the NKs together. Hmm let's see: because I'm pretty good at hunting Scum? I was already on to duo from a while back: On November 03 2010 23:19 Ace wrote: How can a plan succeed and fail at the same time deconduo? Thank god you aren't the mod of this game. This was right after deconduo tried to rationalize Aeres's plan after I said there was no way it could work. I pretty much had him on my Scumdar at this point. The only thing that had even remotely held me back from 100% committing was the fact that he voted for bumatlarge in the Mayor votes along with me. | ||
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On November 08 2010 15:52 infinitestory wrote: we never said 666 blew deconduo with a bomb, in fact we clarified several times that his bombs never went off at all ace said (untruthfully, it seems o_O) that deconduo probably died in 666's suicide bomb I said probably so I could see who would let information slip about the NK. The only people who would have a concrete idea on how the NKs played out would be scum. I tried to engage in a little discussion to see who would let too much slip. If you would have preferred me to say "oh yea, I've got another idea on how duo died but it's a secret!" then my bad homie ^_^ | ||
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