EPTOn November 01 2010 04:47 Aeres wrote:
Yeah, it may not have been the smartest move to make, but this is only my second Mafia game. Last game, I was far more reticent than I am now... I'm trying to compare playstyles. = /
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On November 01 2010 04:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I...*sigh*
Bodyguards want to be secret, once they are out in the open, they are so much more vulnerable. I do understand your logic, but just think about it. Now, since the Mafia knows of your identity, they could very easily role block you (assuming there is a role blocker) and kill you the same night. They have a 50/50 shot at getting it, more than enough odds to be comfortable doing so. Once you're gone, Dr.H is up for grabs. I honestly think claiming was not a smart move.
On November 01 2010 04:41 Aeres wrote:
I was not told that another exists.
Again, all I have to go on is the idea that DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) basically roleclaimed. However, my belief was that if he was killed by the Mafia, the Mafia would target the influential, outspoken people so far, of which I happen to be one (maybe bias here, but whatevs). By keeping my role a secret, I wouldn't know when the Mafia might try and nightkill me, so my ability to predict an attack and set sail would be hampered. By letting the Mafia know, I can set a schedule on which I can alternate between sailing and Medic protection to stall for time.... at least until I run out of uses for my role.
On November 01 2010 04:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I know you aren't told who the other bodyguard is, but were you told that another one exists?
What reason do you have to operate under the assumption of two bodyguards?
On November 01 2010 04:35 Aeres wrote:
Bodyguards are not told who the other Bodyguards are.
I do not know for sure if DC is a Bodyguard... it is possible that he is not. My suspicion is that he is, though.
I'm only going on what I received in the PM. As of now, I am operating under the assumption that there are 2 Bodyguards. Unless someone brings up evidence to the contrary, (i.e. DC's role being revealed) I will keep that claim.
Perhaps I am being deceived here, but I honestly cannot say.
On November 01 2010 04:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:
When you got the PM saying you're a bodyguard, did it tell you that there are two bodyguards? Or do you just think that DC is the other one?
On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:
As has been stated before (and most likely again later), this is INSANE Mafia. We have no idea what Artanis and LSB are capable of throwing at us.
I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia.
On November 01 2010 04:21 infinitestory wrote:
I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious.
On November 01 2010 04:16 Aeres wrote:
Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain.
On November 01 2010 04:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them.
i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them.
Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain.
I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious.
As has been stated before (and most likely again later), this is INSANE Mafia. We have no idea what Artanis and LSB are capable of throwing at us.
I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia.
When you got the PM saying you're a bodyguard, did it tell you that there are two bodyguards? Or do you just think that DC is the other one?
Bodyguards are not told who the other Bodyguards are.
I do not know for sure if DC is a Bodyguard... it is possible that he is not. My suspicion is that he is, though.
On November 01 2010 04:28 youngminii wrote:
Yeah but that's just saying "IF there's a role like the one Aeres is claiming then it would be so"
Why are you so sure there are 2 bodyguards? Wasn't your logic behind the 1 bodyguard theory based on the assumption that DCX is a bodyguard?
I don't see why not.
Yeah but that's just saying "IF there's a role like the one Aeres is claiming then it would be so"
On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:
On November 01 2010 04:21 infinitestory wrote:
I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious.
I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia.On November 01 2010 04:16 Aeres wrote:
Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain.
On November 01 2010 04:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them.
i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them.
Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain.
I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious.
Why are you so sure there are 2 bodyguards? Wasn't your logic behind the 1 bodyguard theory based on the assumption that DCX is a bodyguard?
I want to ask you guys something too. Would it be a good idea to analyze the Murrayitis's mechanics and how it would affect the game in the long run? I think I find it's interesting but I'm not sure if other players agree or not.
I don't see why not.
I'm only going on what I received in the PM. As of now, I am operating under the assumption that there are 2 Bodyguards. Unless someone brings up evidence to the contrary, (i.e. DC's role being revealed) I will keep that claim.
Perhaps I am being deceived here, but I honestly cannot say.
I know you aren't told who the other bodyguard is, but were you told that another one exists?
What reason do you have to operate under the assumption of two bodyguards?
I was not told that another exists.
Again, all I have to go on is the idea that DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) basically roleclaimed. However, my belief was that if he was killed by the Mafia, the Mafia would target the influential, outspoken people so far, of which I happen to be one (maybe bias here, but whatevs). By keeping my role a secret, I wouldn't know when the Mafia might try and nightkill me, so my ability to predict an attack and set sail would be hampered. By letting the Mafia know, I can set a schedule on which I can alternate between sailing and Medic protection to stall for time.... at least until I run out of uses for my role.
I...*sigh*
Bodyguards want to be secret, once they are out in the open, they are so much more vulnerable. I do understand your logic, but just think about it. Now, since the Mafia knows of your identity, they could very easily role block you (assuming there is a role blocker) and kill you the same night. They have a 50/50 shot at getting it, more than enough odds to be comfortable doing so. Once you're gone, Dr.H is up for grabs. I honestly think claiming was not a smart move.
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My role is called the "Cruiseship Captain". I am eligible to PM a mod in order to set sail for the ocean and leave town for the night, thus becoming immune to any and all night actions (positive and negative alike, including roleblocks and DT checks). I am not permitted to set sail on consecutive nights.
Yeah, it may not have been the smartest move to make, but this is only my second Mafia game. Last game, I was far more reticent than I am now... I'm trying to compare playstyles. = /
Ah, ok, I missed the fine print.
But the fact that you are operating under the assumption there is another hidden guard is really dangerous.
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