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I.S. can prove his role to us by telling us the "role" of one blue in the game and they can confirm that, but not what they can do. Although we might be able to figure out what that role could do just by its name, so I'm not sure I'm up for that plan. But if he can find a way to make the person confirm that he is telling the truth, then it might work.
Since we have double lynch next day phase, we need to start talking about who we are planning to lynch.
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On November 07 2010 02:26 CubEdIn wrote:
Also, why would the mafia hit you (Pandain)? You're one of the prime suspects in tomorrow's lynching. Why waste a hit on you if you're blue? Just saying.
Also, @ Nemesis' "I.S. can prove his role to us by telling us the "role" of one blue in the game and they can confirm that, but not what they can do."
If he were red, he could just tell us that a fellow mafia is blue, and that fellow mafia would go "yeah he's right, I am -random role-". Both confirmed = win?
It's a fairly easy role to fake, but I don't think he faked it. But we'll see as the game moves on.
Well if we find out that he is lying, then that would be a free mafia for us.
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On November 07 2010 08:53 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 08:49 KtheZ wrote:
Of course I'm not 100% sure if I am an insane detective. Maybe i only have a 50% chance of mixing it up. However, I do confirm infinitestory as ADD Detective and thus as town. You being insane is the only thing that makes sense.
I have a question. Why check infinitestory when he has already claimed and proven his role? That doesn't add up.[/QUOTE]
That was night 2, meaning before he claimed his role
Also, NODE HAS SOME EXPLAINING TO DO
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Hmm, yeah I guess it is plausible that Beneather indeed placed his doll on DrH and NB got protected. Can NB confirm if he was protected?
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On November 07 2010 09:06 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 09:06 Nemesis wrote:
Hmm, yeah I guess it is plausible that Beneather indeed placed his doll on DrH and NB got protected. Can NB confirm if he was protected? I thought he just said he was?
Oops, I'm bad at reading XD
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Ok a few things to note is if Pandain is confirmed townie by KtheZ, then I am also confirmed townie since Pandain has scanned me to be townie.
Next is it's time to scumhunt. Right now, my lynch target is L. He made up shit to try and make me look red. I would understand his suspicion on me at the time when Pandain was also getting suspected of, but most of his arguments were made up so I am really suspicious of him.
Also, he tried to put suspicion into CubedIn by saying that the role he was claiming was "impossible for mod to give a role like that" and that CubedIn was lying.
He is either a really bad scumhunter, or red trying too hard to get innocent people lynched.
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Ok I just took a look at deconduo's post in this game and here are a few things that I've noted so far
On November 03 2010 02:29 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 02:27 CubEdIn wrote:
So you don't think that the mafia knowing that I'm a doctor is a negative?
Basically, I'm a "goto" target each night, and if I want to live, I need to self-protect myself a lot. Thus making my role almost useless.
I don't see why you think anyone else (other than the mayor/bodyguards, maybe) would make a better target than a 100% confirmed by mods doctor.
IMO, by role-claiming, I just leveled the playing field a bit. I think L's point is that no one would have any reason to pick normal townie, so why were you given the choice if it isn't really a choice.
Hmm lightly supporting L's condemnation of CubedIn based on WIFOM on what mod would do
On November 04 2010 09:50 L wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 09:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nemesis voted for him immediately iirc. Deconduo also voted for Pandain. I'll look at his post history then. Gimme a few min.
Also, L did an analysis on me after DoctorH said he was suspicious of me and deconduo, but somehow he only did an analysis on me and not on deconduo.
Voting for L now.
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On November 07 2010 08:57 NB wrote:
OMG, IM ALIVE xD.... Thank you medic :3....
i was assuming that ima die and didnt post anything, sorry guys T_T
NB did you actually get a message that you were protected by medic or did you just assume that you were since you didn't die seeing as DrH was actually switch with someone(most likely you) by bus driver and died because of it?
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Hyperbola has really been inactive this game. Here is DoctorH's analysis on hyperbola. It is not the most solid argument ever, but since we need to lynch two people for today, I will put my vote on him for now until someone else convinces me otherwise or I find a better target.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 05 2010 03:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Here's everyone who hasn't voted yet afaik: Lexpar Hyperbola Amber[LighT] Beneather Coagulation Hyperbola has been SUPER inactive this game, but isn't that off considering he ran for mayor on the basis of his great analysis and being a good player (rather than his role): Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 07:47 Hyperbola wrote:
Citizens of Insania,
I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job.
Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola! Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 09:45 Hyperbola wrote:On October 29 2010 08:29 bumatlarge wrote:On October 29 2010 07:47 Hyperbola wrote:
Citizens of Insania,
I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job.
Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola! On October 29 2010 07:49 CubEdIn wrote:
*heads to the voting thread to vote for Hyperbola*
*giggles* See, this is bad, we can't have this. Look how much nonsense he spouted. No of that means anything. IT MEANS NOTHING. Then this dude just votes for him? Sorry charlie not having it. You need to be voting for me. If I am not voed in, I will be  Then I will become a Pandain/BM (without the getting modkilled part) and just bug everyone. But if I am! I will be :D Everything will go under my scrutinizer eye and no one will get any biased treatment. Except for maybe Ace, who I owe some respect for that penalty mafia game. He's allowed to do his own thing and not vote for me. An interesting strategy. You call me out on my magnificent speech and then proceed to say almost nothing yourself. Then you direct attention away from yourself and give the illusion of trying to help town by saying random things about the game. I don't think Cube was being serious when he posted that, but I however, was. I am very adept at organization and strategic play. Although I may have not been in as many mafia games and tend to stay quiet, I can still manage a team and have done so in games I was mafia in. The same skills can apply to town if we are able to sort out who's who and create a legitimate town circle. Furthermore, I am very adept at sorting out what's what's legitimate and what's bullshit. Unless there are some specific roles which may overcome my keen eye, I can guarantee you that there will be NO leaks in the town circle if I am voted mayor. As for the issue of whether I am mafia or not... you can be damn well sure that the first person to announce their candidacy for mayor as I did had better be really fucking good at defending themselves from clues if they're mafia. Other than that fact, I cannot guarantee anything. But that is what most elections are: a leap of faith. A hostile defense and further claims that he is a good scumhunter with a keen eye. No leaks in the town circle? What town circle, considering as far as we know you can't PM? Odd post. He's called out on that later and then claims town could probably talk on irc but Artanis tells him nope. Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 10:24 Hyperbola wrote:
All this setback does is simply show that many things can technically be exploited in this game, with the influx of new abilities I believe a great strategy can be devised if the great minds of this game work together under one leader.
I am still running for mayor. A vote for Hyperbola is a vote for a brighter future for us all. Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 11:06 Hyperbola wrote:
What I am interested in is how forgetforeverine is going to factor into the game. Is it simply a role playing element and can a specific role can utilize it? Or is it just a way of having people "forget" about other mafia games... in which case we can't make arguments based on past actions. what is forgetforeverine? i don't remember anyone saying anything about this... Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 09:40 Hyperbola wrote:
It's really pointless for me to vote for myself at this point so I guess I'll vote for Pandain. The other two prime candidates are all discussing secret societies and whatnot, and even though I'm all for those types of roles, I believe the mayor should really be a figurehead for the whole town.
1. It would be really difficult, and not to mention disadvantageous, for the mayor to prove they are a free mason or something along those lines
2. The mayor keeps the rest of the town out of the loop (because there wouldn't be a way to transfer secret data) and therefore causes confusion which can lead to unwarranted bandwagoning.
3. If the mayor dies, how will the circle prove itself to town afterward? After losing all leadership, the town will flop and scum will have it's way with the remains.
And as for Pandain, I have seen his play style from the previous game and think he would make a good mayor. If he turns out to be mafia, and unless he has flawlessly acted out the role, people would notice and he'd be gone in a blink of an eye. Parrots the argument of distrust Coagulation was using that "Fishball is untrustworthy because he operates in secret circles/town circle. But, hyperbola, THE ENTIRE BASIS OF YOUR CAMPAIGN WAS ON CREATING A TOWN CIRCLE. Back to the "Vote pandain cause he's bad and we can tell if hes mafia ez" argument that coagulation used Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 01:51 Hyperbola wrote:On October 31 2010 20:20 youngminii wrote:
oh god that was a shitfest, i didn't read everything to the full but i got the general gist of what's going on
Before you ask me to do something stupid like roleclaim, ask yourselves:
Why in God's name would scum have an ability that allows them to not die? Lynches always bypass the 'oh this guy has two lives' thing anyway.
Why would I not try to defend myself after being pressured for so long? If you thought I was biding my time so that someone could try to take the attention away from me, why didn't anyone?
DrH I'm surprised you didn't think of the second question. Also, a whole lot of your reasoning for your accusations in this thread comes from the metagame, which is stupid because some people like not playing the same style every single game. Stop relying on the metagame, especially if you've only seen me play *once*.
Hang on, your reasoning is flawed anyway because if you actually used the metagame, you would have seen my active posting in Haunted Mafia as scum. Why in the world would you still try and get me lynched? Ok so these are the aspects of his role (if he's telling the truth): 1. avoid a lynch 2. no talking So I'm thinking his role is the ability to leave town, turn invisible, or hide in the closet for a night. I don't know why he wouldn't role claim but, more importantly, this doesn't seem like a scum-favored role. Think about it: why would scum leave town? Is the mob getting too hot for him? This would seem almost detrimental because if someone has a valid case against him, he can't argue it and just delays the inevitable 1 turn. I think the role is intended to just dodge night actions and simply dodges lynches and forbids speaking as a side effect. So in short, I think youngminii is innocent to some extent... for now. bit of a defense for youngminii. Coagulation attacked youngminii really hard. This doesn't clear hyperbola though, there are reasons why mafia might attack another mafia but the way coagulation did it was strangely intense. If Coagulation somehow flips blue I'd SERIOUSLY consider hyperbola. Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 07:29 Hyperbola wrote:
Lexpar has successfully derailed the thread for like 3/4 of a page, lol. Not that we're really doing anything intense right now. Regarding youngminii, I don't think we really need to get to the bottom of the whole situation just yet as Coagulation stated. I think we should wait till day, analyze the day post and the deaths, and then resume "getting to the bottom of things". But as other people have said before me, role claiming is nothing but detrimental unless it's done right. Do not be like Aeres guys (no offense), his role claim was rash and could put him and others in danger. Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:54 Hyperbola wrote:
Ok let's not fish for the elder. Why do the mafia's work for them? If he want's to be known he'll say it in the thread.
Regarding Node: His role is really easy to fake. A mafia knows exactly who's going to die and he probably has a role that decided who to kill during the day or is just completely faking it. The reason I think this is because he explicitly asked for medic protection on night 1 and 3 people are now infected. I am assuming that Murrayitis starts off with only 1 host because otherwise it would take very little time to infect half of the town's population. I can't really prove anything right now but Node is now quite suspicious in my eyes. Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:56 Hyperbola wrote:On November 01 2010 09:53 Coagulation wrote:On November 01 2010 09:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote:
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town? Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me. Awwww that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me! ... on the internet... I didn't realize I was actually an important player in this game. On November 01 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I would like to announce that last night I poked jcarlsoniv. I did not receive a PM from Artanis or LSB meaning the poke was successful and jcarlsoniv does not have murrayitis. I cannot confirm this Dr.H, I did not receive a PM from the mods saying I was poked. Did you receive any other night actions? Something stopped my poke from going through to jcarlsoniv. how fucking convenient. You do realize it would actually be a smart move for mafia to roleblock DrH? This can really flip either way at this point. Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 08:42 Hyperbola wrote:
I honestly do not know who to vote for right now. Nothing seems solid. I'm gonna vote for someone random so I don't get modkilled. Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 08:41 Hyperbola wrote:On November 04 2010 08:24 CubEdIn wrote:
Well if you want my opinion about the blue pill thing (let's assume I'm not lying), it's either:
1. A note from the admin. But it would be pointless, because I didn't take the blue pill.
2. A mafia being able to influence the Radio as well. It would make sense, half Glasse, half Mafia.
I don't think this is the case. Otherwise Glasse would have said something. Anyone else thinks it's kinda weird that DCLXVI would have a "leave town role" like Aeres and potentially youngminii? Either that or Node is BSing us. Hyperbola has been mostly pretty inactive and a lot of his posts are just saying things the town had already really been talking about. I figured a mafia would drop out of the race when Mayor was revealed to be vulnerable to rolechecks and the way with which hyperbola ran his campaign fits this profile. I'd consider him as a second lynch tomorrow. A very strong target if coag flips blue imo
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On November 07 2010 14:09 Glasse wrote:explain? did i miss something?
He can scan the alignment of one person per night. Where you have been for the last 2 days?>.>
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On November 07 2010 14:57 youngminii wrote:
Pandain, there's a very real possibility that KtheZ is a paranoid DT. Either way, I'm not convinced, you could be the Godfather for all I know.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what the paranoid DT is?
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On November 07 2010 14:57 youngminii wrote:
Pandain, there's a very real possibility that KtheZ is a paranoid DT. Either way, I'm not convinced, you could be the Godfather for all I know.
Well even if that is the case, it is very unlikely that Pandain is mafia then. His role has been confirmed eitherway(Trash Collector), and since it checks the alignment of one random person per night. It would be a useless role for mafia as mafia already knows everyone's alignment.
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On November 07 2010 15:39 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 15:07 Nemesis wrote:On November 07 2010 14:57 youngminii wrote:
Pandain, there's a very real possibility that KtheZ is a paranoid DT. Either way, I'm not convinced, you could be the Godfather for all I know. Well even if that is the case, it is very unlikely that Pandain is mafia then. His role has been confirmed eitherway(Trash Collector), and since it checks the alignment of one random person per night. It would be a useless role for mafia as mafia already knows everyone's alignment. /facepalm That would be the ideal role, you realise Godfathers don't actually gain the abilities of the role they choose, right?
I was just pointing out that he is not any more likely to be mafia or town if KtheZ is actually a Paranoid DT as compared to Insane DT.
On November 07 2010 15:26 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 11:11 Nemesis wrote:On November 07 2010 08:57 NB wrote:
OMG, IM ALIVE xD.... Thank you medic :3....
i was assuming that ima die and didnt post anything, sorry guys T_T NB did you actually get a message that you were protected by medic or did you just assume that you were since you didn't die seeing as DrH was actually switch with someone(most likely you) by bus driver and died because of it? i have no clue... i did not receive any pm so it could be bus :D (i just check out what bus actually do @_@) are you supposed to receive a notice if medic save you?
That was how it worked in past games as far as I know. Hmm so if medic didn't save you, that means that there is 1KP missing as Beneather died because he placed his voodoo doll on DoctorH and DCL killed himself.
Did someone else get protected today or maybe mafia KP has decreased?
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Hmm, I have thought it over while watching PL, and I think that meapak is indeed a better target than hyperbola. Well, I'll be sleeping for now.
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Wow, some new information is always nice.
I was kind of suspicious of ace as he was supposed to be a "renowned scumhunter", but so far he hasn't really done anything useful.
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Well back to studying for calculus midterms for now.
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Hmm well the thing is Ace if he is found to be lying, then there is no way he can talk his way out of it next day phase. But I guess it doesn't matter whether we lynch you or him to find out whether he's lying or not.
But the roles which doesn't work exactly compared to a standard mafia game have slightly different names from those of standard mafia role names like "ADD Doctor", so now that you pointed it out, it does seem suspicious.
Well kitaman, as a chance to defend yourself, who else did you visit the previous nights?
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Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 08:39 kitaman27 wrote:On November 07 2010 08:33 Glasse wrote:On November 07 2010 08:32 infinitestory wrote:On November 07 2010 08:30 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Well we could lynch Pandain and another person not on your checks to check your own sanity. We had a plan to lynch Padain anyway so it almost works out that we can confirm your sanity, and it's a safeguard to understand that you aren't lying, after all. Let's try not to lynch someone who's more likely town than mafia at the moment. I really hate lurkers, i feel like there HAS to be a mafia hiding in them Agreed. Carefully watching the lurkers should be a priority. Especially those who disappear for periods of time after the town has formed a majority opinion. I had a feeling you might claim this. Luckily, I decided to hide my discovery in a post right after I found out you were scum. That way when you accuse me of making the claim up, I can show you I had the information prior to finding out who would be the lynch targets.
I'm sorry but that is a bit of a ridiculouse defense, I'm not buying it XD
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Well can infindibulum and AmberLight confirm that they both did not leave their house during the respective days they were visited?
Which days were who visited?
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On November 08 2010 08:24 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:23 Nemesis wrote:
Well can infindibulum and AmberLight confirm that they both did not leave their house during the respective days they were visited?
Which days were who visited? i just confirmed infun did not leave his house, based on my knowledge of infun's role amber also just confirmed he did not leave his house night 2
Can you link or quote me to where Amber confirmed it?
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