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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 04 2010 03:12 GMT
#2797
On November 04 2010 12:12 Pandain wrote:
mmm seems like I'm dead either way :/

Node, who is going to die tonight?

NB.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 04 2010 03:19 GMT
#2811
edit!!!

instant mod kill... I wish.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 04 2010 03:22 GMT
#2818
I read the rule again... only a warning on the 1st edit...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 04 2010 03:32 GMT
#2828
On November 04 2010 12:28 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 12:27 Ace wrote:
I bet Doc's next argument is "because you have a defiler icon, you must be Scum!"

zerg icon = auto scum ..


Im not sure about what 666 is trying to say.. is he saying he gives up also or he being sarcastic about being mafia

DC can't be scum, he was "foresaw" by Node to be dead. I assume that counts as a mafia kill. Mafia won't target their own as a target. Then Node is lying?

DC please restate that confusing post of yours.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 04 2010 03:49 GMT
#2843
On November 04 2010 12:39 DCLXVI wrote:
options as I see them
(my plan)lynch pandain today, me tomorrow so that I can kill coag and another scummy player instead of someone else
If I am lying well you are lynching me and pandain who doc wants to lynch anyways, and then you lynch coag. So the town is still lynching reds every vote (presuming pandain is red, which doc seems to believe)
Or you do docs plan which is to lynch Coag, then pandain. I lose a bomb and lose my effectiveness because I only get a vig hit when I die, so there is no 2for1 when lynching me.
Mad hatter is a role I have never seen on a mafia, and I am asking you guys to lynch me tomorrow. What is there to lose?


Assuming both coag and pandain is mafia
A)
today: lynch coag
tomorrow: pandain and someone else. You also lose a bomb.
2 mafia dead, 1 lynch target, 1 bomb remaining.

B)
today: lynch pandain
tomorrow: lynch DC and someone else. Bomb kills coag and someone else.
2 mafia dead, 1 lynch target, 1 bomb target, 1 townie dead.

So
plan A has 1 bomb remaining.
plan B has 1 bomb target and 1 townie dead.

I think plan A (lynch coag today) is better.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 04 2010 03:52 GMT
#2847
On November 04 2010 12:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
but the other person could be mafia? why assume they're a townie?

What other person could be mafia, the townie death is for DC dying.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 04 2010 04:12 GMT
#2857
I am still think about lynch DC the mad hatter for 2 to kill coag and one other target.

Putting that aside, comparing lynching pandain and lynching coag today.

coag - 97% mafia?
- retard role, bad for mafia.

Pandain - 70%mafia?
- he claim as "trash collector." we don't believe him. If he has a power role as mafia leaving
won't be good.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 04 2010 14:39 GMT
#2876
On November 04 2010 21:09 CubEdIn wrote:
Just a thought:

Albeit a long shot, Glasse could be mafia.
Why?
- We don't really know his role
- We know that he's part of Radio Loony, but he claims he doesn't control "all of it", just the non-instigating parts? How convenient.
- His voting pattern is strange (keeping his vote on DrH, could be related to his role)
- He very rarely posts useful things

Maybe he doesn't control Loony altogether, but is there a way we can check this?
Perhaps give him something to say and see what comes up, but I guess that would be useless since if someone else is controlling it as well, they will see it and play along to cast-away suspicion.

My only real issue with Glasse is that he didn't role-claim properly. He gave us bits and pieces. First the cat, then, after a while, he decided to let us know that he didn't write all of it. (Why not tell us from the beginning?), then he told us he has a character count he must stick to, then he told us that c.count is 75.

Why not just share all this information from the beginning?
Can anyone brainstorm a way for us to see exactly how the mechanics behind the Radio work?

I'll go back to reason that if Glasse is mafia, then his mafia buddy would surely have stopped him from doing stupid things like roleclaiming. That Loony Radio role is super powerful, I just don't see how mafia would give that role up. Only explanation I can think of is Glasse is town, without help from anyone, he underrated his role.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 04 2010 21:47 GMT
#2898
Just wanted to add that even though Pandain's day2 vote was negated, his vote for lynching DrH came after Ace who voted first.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 02:25 GMT
#2917
Pandain, I was expecting you to make some kind of response post to everyone that are suspicious of you, but you didn't. Before day3, you are one of the most active poster and one of the best analyzer in the thread. You were battling with DrH head to head and never shown weakness. It is not like you to not counter argue the suspicions pointing at you unless you are contented with Coag being lynched today and you die at a later time. Coag, a very aggressive poster, also seem wanting to protect you by not doing what he can to label you are a better lynch than him. It really makes me believe that you are highly likely to be a mafia and that your group is ok that Coag instead of you to be lynched today.

I hope I am not too late to make this post. I beg that those who didn't vote for Pandain to really consider what I state above. If that make sense to you, please change your vote to Pandain.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 02:52 GMT
#2919
On November 05 2010 11:49 Coagulation wrote:
YES PLZ CHANGE YOUR VOTE TO PANDAIN.

Starts with you first.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 04:18 GMT
#2922
So how does your bombs activate again? LSB just edited out his explanation.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 04:55 GMT
#2926
DC, one thing didn't make sense to me. Why did you role claim bodyguard on night 1? If the mafia decide to kill you, your mad hunter role is wasted.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 05:03 GMT
#2928
Ok, he was implying he was bodyguard. On day2, he stated that it was never a bodyguard claim.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 05:34 GMT
#2930
LSB, did you messed up because you didn't count CubEdIn's vote on Coag.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 19:01 GMT
#2950
To me, it seems that the mafia is comfortable letting Coag die. This makes me feel that Pandain got a very valuable role and his ability can be put to great effect tonight. Also, mafia may see Coag's role as a mafia retard is a liability and may hurt them in the future.

Then there are these mod posts:

On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated.

Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability

On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying.

~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote.

On November 04 2010 11:37 Coagulation wrote:
As a last act of defiance I loaded up my finger with my carefully harvested ammunition and took aim at doch. but it was too sticky and clung to my finger upon my attempted firring.
so i began to shake my hand vigorously to remove it
and in true retard fashion projected it into my own eye.

This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself.

On November 05 2010 13:05 LSB wrote:
If you have any day actions please PM me

Pandain (11)
KtheZ
Hyperbola
Beneather
Youngminii
Kenpachi
DoctorH (2)
Infun
DCLXVI
Meapak_Ziphh
Coagulation
Lunardestiny


Coagulation (10)
Infinistory
Node
Nemisis
Ace
Deconduo
Pandain
Vedril
NB
ROL
Kitman

DocH (1)
Glasse

Hyperbola (1)
Amber[Light]


Double Lynch has passed, unless you guys start unvoting it I'm going to skip keeping track now

Lexpar, L, and kitman27 still need to vote

This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out.

This is what I predict Coag's role ability is:
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify.
- His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.

So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation.
What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him?
We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.

There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case.

There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town.
If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him.
If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent.

Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on.

This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 19:36 GMT
#2955
On November 06 2010 04:19 Pandain wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 06 2010 04:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
To me, it seems that the mafia is comfortable letting Coag die. This makes me feel that Pandain got a very valuable role and his ability can be put to great effect tonight. Also, mafia may see Coag's role as a mafia retard is a liability and may hurt them in the future.

Then there are these mod posts:

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated.

Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying.

~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote.

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 11:37 Coagulation wrote:
As a last act of defiance I loaded up my finger with my carefully harvested ammunition and took aim at doch. but it was too sticky and clung to my finger upon my attempted firring.
so i began to shake my hand vigorously to remove it
and in true retard fashion projected it into my own eye.

This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 13:05 LSB wrote:
If you have any day actions please PM me

Pandain (11)
KtheZ
Hyperbola
Beneather
Youngminii
Kenpachi
DoctorH (2)
Infun
DCLXVI
Meapak_Ziphh
Coagulation
Lunardestiny


Coagulation (10)
Infinistory
Node
Nemisis
Ace
Deconduo
Pandain
Vedril
NB
ROL
Kitman

DocH (1)
Glasse

Hyperbola (1)
Amber[Light]


Double Lynch has passed, unless you guys start unvoting it I'm going to skip keeping track now

Lexpar, L, and kitman27 still need to vote

This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out.

This is what I predict Coag's role ability is:
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify.
- His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.

So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation.
What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him?
We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.

There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case.

There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town.
If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him.
If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent.

Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on.

This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated.



there are several things wrong with this, and some assumptions you make.
Show nested quote +
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify.
- His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.

iirc coag did vote during day 2. Also, during day 1 when would he have used this ability?


We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.

You assume I am mafia, and have a very powerful role because of this.

I am welcome to a DT to check me, if they can. But from my understanding of the game so far(based on my role and Infinite's), there may not be a DT who can actually check someone who he wishes to check.

Which is why I'm saying that if town is dead set on lynching me and there's nothing I can do, they might as well lynch DXCVII tommorow, when he can't be roleblocked(very likely since Dr. H was telling the truth)

But again, I'd like to hear more reasons why I'm being called mafia besides coag.

Actually, there are not a lot of strong reasons that say you are mafia.

!)Even with close voting, the mafia seems content of letting Coag die.
2)You just gave after you are accused of being mafia.
3)If you are mafia, your ability might hurt town(I know this is a IF->MIGHT double assumption).

I believe there are other reasons that people pointed out earlier in the thread, but these are the reasons I am basing on when making my decision.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 19:48 GMT
#2961
So Pandain, what can be done to prove your innocence on day 4 when you have to be of a less desirable lynch than 2 people?

Or you want to die a glorify death. When you die turns out blue, that we can confirm Infinitestory, Nemesis, and 1 other person's (who you check tonight) alignments?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 21:44 GMT
#2997
Now that L is voting for Pandain, what will happen in the case of a tie?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 21:47 GMT
#2999
Amber, I see you are voting for Hyper right now, your vote can decide the lynching.

That said, I still unsure if Pandain is the right choice.
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