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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 07 2010 08:53 kitaman27 wrote: You being insane is the only thing that makes sense. I have a question. Why check infinitestory when he has already claimed and proven his role? That doesn't add up.[/QUOTE] I was trying to test my insanity, as well as confirm a useful blue to us. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 07 2010 13:16 Pandain wrote: Veldril is safe. Btw, KtheZ, you checked me and got Garbage collector, correct? Yes, I can confirm you are a garbage collector. Alignment still unsure, but MOST probably town. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 08 2010 03:30 infinitestory wrote: pandain says he's trash collector, kthez says he got pandain as mafia garbage collector Ok ok, pandain is the TRASH collector; I didnt bother to check the investigation pm to MAKE sure what i was typing was correct. Garbarge collector and trash collector are basically the same thing; I mixed them up. Sorry about the mistake. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
? Im first saying that I am perfectly fine with proving I am what I claim. Second, I'm saying that I may prove what I am through death, and that that is not a good option. Third, I'm commenting on how few medics we have left. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 08 2010 11:24 Nemesis wrote: Just note KtheZ lied about his roleclaim, look at my previous post So, here are my conclusions from my previous post 1. KtheZ lied 2. He either wanted to confirm Pandain or infinitestory to the town Has it occured to you that I found pandain to be mafia and thought he was mafia? Since I was so adamant in lynching him, why would I reveal evidence AGAINST myself? I was quite sure he was mafia due to my check, and I thought he lied about what his ROLE COULD DO. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
Proves my point above even further. EBWODP | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 08 2010 12:16 Nemesis wrote: Except you included that part which means you didn't know the name of his role at all. And you even got the name of his role wrong when you roleclaimed :/ And how convenient is it that the other person you checked was InfiniteStory, another person who has already roleclaimed? I was trying not to show myself as a detective, since I felt that at that point it was not wise to roleclaim. Plus, I mixed up the words GARBAGE and TRASH. It really is not a notable detail for you to nitpick about. I have good reason to check infinitestory. Since I suspected myself to be insane, checking him was the reasonable thing to do. Since he had claimed ADD Detective, I could either: A. Find him lying about his role (and find him town, which would confirm my suspicion of insanity) or B. Find him telling the truth about his role (and find him mafia, which doesnt make sense and also confirms my insanity) or C. Find him lying about his role (and find him mafia, which I really doubted would happen if he actually was town) The benefit of this is also that we can confirm infinitestory's checks upon other people. I have had very few (if none at all) scum-like actions this game. The entire pandain ordeal, I always qualified my analysis with the statement that his ROLE ACTION may be a lie, which noone else at the time had ever stated or taken into consideration. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 08 2010 12:42 Nemesis wrote: I don't buy your "suspecting yourself" argument here. If you actually suspected yourself, you would have considered the possibility that Pandain was telling the truth, yet you kept insisting that Pandain was lying about his role. And yes, if you actually had a pm telling you that his role is TRASH COLLECTOR, it would be something that you would not ever mistake as you would actually check your pm's about what your rolecheck would return before posting your roleclaim. as compared to reading about Pandain's role once when he roleclaimed. I'm still trying to connect how this relates to the town's current situation though, so I'll just check what else I can find out from previous posts. My role PM included a detail about my "head hurting for some reason" so obviously I knew something was up, I just didnt know what. However, I suspected insanity. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
double lynch tmrw FTW | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 08 2010 13:10 youngminii wrote: This is the biggest shitfest right now. I'm voting for kitaman for obvious reasons, AS YOU SHOULD BE TOO, and I'll be voting for KtheZ for also screwing up a few times and his post right above me (voting off Hyperbola, Nemesis and double lynch, if this doesn't scream mafia I don't know what does). I repeat: Kitaman and KtheZ. Care to explain? I'm only voting nemesis because i'm sure he wont die and I want to toss the vote. Whats wrong with a double lynch? We have only a few days left and I think a double lynch is in our best interests, considering that we have many investigative roles and few doctors left. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
Right now, I am not convinced anyone is truely mafia right now, so I am extremely wary of putting my vote in this decisive battle. For all I know there could be a mafia bandwagon going on. However, thanks to your explanation, I will now revise my votes. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 08 2010 13:10 youngminii wrote: This is the biggest shitfest right now. I'm voting for kitaman for obvious reasons, AS YOU SHOULD BE TOO, and I'll be voting for KtheZ for also screwing up a few times and his post right above me (voting off Hyperbola, Nemesis and double lynch, if this doesn't scream mafia I don't know what does). I repeat: Kitaman and KtheZ. Also, I'm still fishing around for someone to vote for, so youngminii could you elaborate as to why kitaman is "obvious"? | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 08 2010 14:18 infinitestory wrote: did you miss the several pages long discussion on kitaman's watcher/tracker/whatever role name incongruency? Oh yeah that was him. I keep forgetting whos who. Silly me. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 08 2010 14:57 Ace wrote: ... We just had a long, long argument about why you can't be a Watcher or Tracker. But you clearly just said you are a detective who discovered Ace is Mafia. If thats the case why even argue about Watcher/Tracker? Your original post says: Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched. You did not say Ace is Mafia. You said Ace was involved in the hit. So you can't be a detective or you would have said plainly you investigated me to be Scum. You can't be a Watcher/Tracker because you don't have a target. If you were a legit Watcher/Tracker we wouldn't be having this conversation. I asked you WHO I'm linked to and you can't tell me. If you are a watcher/tracker then WHAT hit was I involved in last night? Are you really selling that the mod told you "Ace was involved in last night's hit" when there were 5 dead people? Kitaman said in his roleclaim that he is informed of what they do and if they leave their house. You even said yourself that he does not know the name of the target 7.) Watcher - Has tracker abilities, does not get the name of the target I'm not defending him or anything, but I just want to point out your illogical reasoning. It is probably safe to assume you are either: A) A town role infected with murrayitis or B) A mafia role that is able to spread murrayitis. It is also quite reasonable to conclude that: A)You helped mafia perform a hit or B)Your role was a town-aligned role that somehow ties into a mafia hit. Could you give an example of how a townie can be involved in a mafia hit? I'm just throwing out my ideas. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
I am not very learned in the way of voting. We have a double lynch on our hands, so I decided to vote for someone I feel lurking, and I have another vote I just throw around. I'm not really sure if anyone is mafia, but that vote will be one that I really have no clue about, and will just throw around. I don't understand why people are/want others to be voting me. I have answered all questions regarding my role and my roleclaim, yet people still cite these same arguements against me, like "oh he might be lying" which I have addressed already. The only thing I have not been very wise in is my vote this day. Just because I voted stupidly does not mean you should disregard everything i've said this forum and label me mafia. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 09 2010 07:09 Pandain wrote: I have voted KtheZ. In addition so I can stay alive(one of the main reasons) I have reason to doubt he's actually clean. For one, he got my role wrong(I had even given him a chance to correct himself, but he failed again) Also, he has played somewhat scummily(voting nemesis just because he noted out flaws, despite the fact he knows im blue, and I checked nemesis to be safe. so wtf there.) Finally, the contradictions pointed out by nemesis are evident. Why would you vote me? I'm the person who confirmed your role! I DID correct myself, idk what you're saying. I stopped voting nemesis, instead moving my vote to kitaman. Also, to respond to a large portion of your analysis of me: I did not want to confirm your role, because, as I have stated before, I did not want to roleclaim. Does it really matter to me a LOT what your role name is, when I checked you and found you to be mafia? I was convinced that you were mafia, and that you were lying about WHAT your role could do (Note that I knew you didnt lie about your role). A lot of what you pointed out in your analysis was me trying to NOT indicate obvious detective-ness, such as my I'd prefer if someone proved me wrong, but this is what I managed to conclude after reading for like 20-30 minutes of the forum.. I'm obviously making sure mafia doesn't suspect I'm a detective. it would be bad if I caught the attention of the mafia and got hit, wouldn't it? Again, you just confirmed my role. So how is it unconfirmable. Credits to nemesis for first poniting this out. also trying to fish for my role. Well, I was convinced your ROLE ACTION WAS NOT WHAT YOU CLAIMED. Notice that I keep asking for your ROLE ACTION. + Show Spoiler + On November 04 2010 10:48 KtheZ wrote: Since we have a claimed ADD detective, I find it HIGHLY unlikely there is ANOTHER TOWN ALIGNED RANDOM DETECTIVE. Um.... haven't you realized your insane yet. No I have not realized I am insane; that was on the same day. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
The simple response to almsot everything you say here is: I say your role is unconfirmable because THAT QUALIFIER IS NECESSARY for me so I can pretend I DO NOT HAVE A DT ROLE. If I went up and said your role action is unconfirmed, but your role is confirmed, doesnt that absolutely SCREAM that I am a DT? | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 09 2010 08:21 Pandain wrote: So you lied? You don't have to say the role is unconfirmable, just give reasons why you think I'm mafia. claiming its unconfirmable is just...anti town. There is no other way for me to pretend im not DT besides saying that. | ||
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