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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 04 2010 00:38 GMT
#2617
I'll take page 2, so page 6 is left.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 04 2010 00:47 GMT
#2624
On November 04 2010 09:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nemesis voted for him immediately iirc. Deconduo also voted for Pandain.


My voting was as follows:

There were 3 candidates initially, Fishball, Pandain, Bumatlarge. I vote for bum because I thought he would make the best mayor. I wasn't too happy with panda's posting and didn't like the idea of the Mayor having a private PM circle.

However at that point bum had pulled out (I dunno why) so I had to choose between panda and fish. I picked panda simply because fish was pushing the whole circle thing too much. It was more of not liking fish as opposed to liking panda. Dr. H had not announced candidacy at this point. In fact he was voting for Pandain as well for the same reason iirc.

Then bum came back into the race so I switched back to him, reasoning given in the post you quoted.

There were other candidates as well, but the only votes they had were from themselves so I didn't really consider them.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 04 2010 00:49 GMT
#2626
On November 04 2010 09:38 deconduo wrote:
I'll take page 2, so page 6 is left.


Actually I'm going to bed now (1am here) and I'm busy from like 9am to 10pm tomorrow so someone else should probably do it if you want it done in a reasonable timeframe. Sorry.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 05 2010 00:55 GMT
#2913
Don't have any time, just back from work today. Skimmed the thread and the only matter that seems to be up for debate is coag now or let bombs take care of him.

I think we should just lynch him now. A bird in the hand and all that jazz. Considering we have no idea what roles are out there, its just safer to cash in our guaranteed maf lynch now imo.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 05 2010 00:56 GMT
#2914
Oh and theres no reason not to vote for a double lynch at this stage I think, so I would FoS anyone that isn't voting for it.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 05 2010 20:07 GMT
#2964
Some things:

Why is the voting so close? Maf most be manipulating it somehow, but for what reason I don't know. At this stage watching the voting patterns should give us a lot of info.

On a similar note: Maybe we should let Dr. H choose the lynches from now on, as he is mostly confirmed townie. People not voting with him should give explicit reasons as to why they are not. This stops any last minute fuxxing with the lynches, but gives us less to work on with regards to voting patterns. Peoples thoughts? Good idea or bad idea?

Medics!!!
Maf likely targets for tonight: Dr. H, infinite, cube, DC, node, NB. Choose wisely.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 05 2010 20:16 GMT
#2967
On November 06 2010 05:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Pandain/Coag are both good choices. It really comes down to what you feel is best for the town. I'm willing to take my chances with DC's gambit but Coag is the safest choice.

I don't think the voting split is suspicious at all.


Its 19 town 7 maf. If the town vote is split fairly evenly, then maf get to choose who dies. If coag dies and is red, thats a pretty clear indication that Pandain is red also. If Pandain dies, then coag's role must be more important for tonight than panda's.

GTG for now
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 06 2010 23:16 GMT
#3229
Aww damn, who killed me? I thought I was doing really well.

GL maf, make me proud.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 00:55 GMT
#4230
On November 12 2010 09:51 NB wrote:
sr guys, i afk for too long... i was in too many event recently, offline as well as online.... Will try my best to keep track but im quite sure after this game i wont be playing any mafia for quite a while ^^... Town Hwaiting!!! im trying to read to catch up... i think panda and youngminii are quite suspicious...


Best post evar.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 01:20 GMT
#4252
I think pandain played really well.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 01:45 GMT
#4279
GG, well played maf, especially L + Pandain. How you managed to not get lynched is beyond me.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 02:30 GMT
#4304
On November 12 2010 11:28 Coagulation wrote:
Also i would like to bitch about having the most retarted mafia role ever.

Yes it was.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 04:40 GMT
#4338
Yah, we basically would have been raped by modkills if there wasn't replacements.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 04:49 GMT
#4343
On November 12 2010 13:44 kingjames01 wrote:
I was so angry about this game.
There were SO many mistakes made by the town. Unfortunately I was killed the first night... (WHAT THE HELL WAS UP WITH THAT???)

It was obvious that Pandain's bid to become mayor was mafia-concocted. Two other players supported him with very shoddy reasoning. That should have been enough to kill 3 mafia.

Another thing that really made my blood boil was the stupidity over the existence of the Godfather and whether or not Pandain could have been him. Godfather can choose to appear as WHATEVER he wants. The perfect role is to pretend that you know when someone is Red or Blue since you know that already. It is IDIOTIC to start with the assumption that there is no Godfather.

Also, in order to win the game as town, you have to think like mafia. If some mafia is going to get lynched, the perfect plan is to bus a teammate, ESPECIALLY, if that means the Godfather is safe.

I watched the entire game and I was not overly impressed with ANYONE's play. After the game, everyone is patting each other's backs and saying, "yeah, that was great how you pulled that off! You're a great player" or "that was some great analysis. You really got that right." NO! EVERYONE ELSE FUCKED UP.

I'm so mad. =(


You were too good, thats why we killed you
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 04:56 GMT
#4349
On November 12 2010 13:50 kingjames01 wrote:
Also, it was CLEAR that Aeres tried to pretend to be a second bodyguard since he thought DCLXVI had accidentally outted himself. I understood as soon as it happened. The reason why I didn't bring it up was BECAUSE I understood as soon as it happened.

If you're FUCKING town, then put a little bit of thought into it, understand it and then go along with it, you shallow-minded fools. Don't make him explain himself. That negates the point of his move. He had a role which allowed him to take that risk. He took one for the team but you guys lynched him for it.

Yah, I was amazed no one else saw this either. The moment Aeres claimed I was pretty certain it was a fakeout, but he still got lynched for it.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 16:25:05
November 12 2010 16:24 GMT
#4399
Quick summary from mafia point of view.:


Day 1: We try to get Pandain elected. If you notice the votes, all the maf had a vote on Pandain at some point I think. We try and put down fishball. Things go wrong when Dr. H runs. Pandain + Coag are sooooo scummy here. Seriously, I was facepalming at some of the posts. Dr. H gets elected and lynches youngminii. Youngminii lynch dodges and sinquity dies.

Night 1: We decide to kill Kingjames and Brownbear. They were playing well and were unlikely to have medic protection. We RB Dr. H as well so his stick doesn't go through. This is to put suspicion on him. At this point we don't know who the random kill will be. We get our first bit of luck here, with the bodyguard being killed, after the Aeres/DC thingy.

Day 2: Aeres gets lynched and Fishball gets modkilled. If I was town here I would be raging SO HARD. Lynching aeres was a huuuuuuge waste. It allowed us to just run riot with accusations and stuff and attempt to pile suspicion on Dr. H. Fishball modkill was lucky for us as well.

Night 2: We kill Jcarlsoniv because he is playing well. We kill bumatlarge via bus to knock out the PM network. Now town has no private communication as far as we know.

Day 3: Coagulation gets unlucky, Double lynch is voted in.

Night 3: The big one. We kill Dr. H via bus and save NB at the same time. We take out CubEdIn as well. DCLXVI dies from his role, Beneather as well. Unfortunately, mods are evil and get 3rd party to kill me ;_;

Day 4: PANDAIN IS STILL NOT LYNCHED, WTF. In fact, town lynches the non-scummy detective KtheZ, Hyperbola gets lynched as well, not too sure why. Pandain, L, Ace, RoL are really scummy but none of them get lynched. NB isn't really scummy, just afk.

Night 4: Town have a chance! Amber[LighT] dies but takes out RoL with him. 3rd party take out Ace. This drops maf KP to 1 + NB random kill only. We kill infinite and kitaman27 because both are DT roles. Veldril dies because of his role.

Day 5: Pandain attempts to get Kenpachi lynched and succeeds. Last minute blitz gets Nemesis
take out as well. However it exposes L + Pandain as scum. We have pretty much lost the game at this point if we can't convince the 3rd party to help us. We know that node is dying tonight which in turn will kill NB. If 3rd party hit Pandain, then only L is left, and his vote blitzing ensured that town know he is scum. Epic plan is formed involving getting m-rus to hit. 3rd party must be convinced to not kill Pandain.

I may have left some things out, feel free to add anything or ask questions.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 17:05 GMT
#4401
Btw, Dr. H what made you suspect me? I thought I was doing pretty well to be not scummy
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 19:25 GMT
#4409
On November 13 2010 04:19 Aeres wrote:
Oh crap, I missed the ending of the game. Good work, Mafia.

Now, I wanna post the death message that I was planning on when I was lynched; I didn't know I couldn't post this after my lynch, due to some miscommunication between me and Artanis, so I guess I'll post it now.

+ Show Spoiler +
Heh… looks like I got to visit the gallows after all. Unfortunately, I wasn't lying when I said I was a townie, as you guys already know at this point. Then again, I suppose your convictions against me were valid, if incorrect.

I'm not particularly happy about my death, but I don't blame you guys in the slightest. Hell, if that was any other player who had fake-claimed Bodyguard and fucked it up to the extent that you saw, I'd be voting for that guy's execution, too. So, I don't feel like my death was unjustified. I admit my idea for protecting the Doc, although feasible in theory, was just horribly played out. I blame that on A) being generally inexperienced, B) wanting to service the town within the limits of my role, C) liking the idea of being a sensationalist hero (lol), and D) not bothering to think anything through completely.

Truth be told, I suck. I wanted to improve, so I decided to try something unorthodox in a game I was participating in. There's only so much you can glean from reading past games, so I wanted to see if my observations of Ace, BC, L, the Doc, Qatol, and the other "Big Gunz" in TL Mafia would pay off. Clearly, they didn't.

I don't like being conservative in games like these. It's a great feeling to win debates and prove claims, especially in a team setting where your actions can win you the game, so I went on a much more active tack than my play in Haunted Mafia showed. I wanted that chance to be "the man", the guy whose actions were critical to the game. I did not meet the requirements for The Man™; in fact, my claim was about as believable as Blizzard's argument for IP rights in Korea. -.-

But I digress.

Good intentions, plausible ideas… terrible implementation. The story of my life… and now of my death.

Take care, guys. I'm most likely going to sit out the next Mafia game, partly so I don't inadvertently screw up the game again, partly due to schoolwork encroaching on my free time, and partly because of self-pity, I guess. It's pretty discouraging to have what you think is a sound plan getting shot down because of its utter stupidity, and then being derided as a stupid player. I'm not trying to QQ, but that's pretty much how I feel.

+ Show Spoiler +
As a final addendum to this little monologue, I'd like to throw a message out to the good Doc.

Doc, I'm fully aware that I'll sound like a creepy son of a bitch for saying this, but I defended you so adamantly early in the game because… I suppose it's because I look up to you as a player. A sort of icon, if you will, as to how a Mafia player should act and think. I want to emulate that set of qualities, but inexperienced as I am, I can't hope to do so just yet. I also felt that your abilities (not just your role, but your skills as a player) were vital to the town, so I wanted to protect you as best I could. In the end, I stabbed myself in the back, but I was convinced till the end that you were a townie. Taking one for the team isn't always a smart decision (as seen in my horrible fuckup), but I couldn't think of another way to help the town. My role was suited to protection, and who better to protect than the Mayor, who also happens to be a role model to me?


Your situation was horrible As I said above I would have raged so hard if I was town, because I still feel that your was a great move. I tried to defend you as best I could but it wasn't enough. Well played, you just got unlucky.
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