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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 01 2010 03:47 GMT
#1699
Yeah I'm not getting anything from what's happening right now. I'm putting my vote on Aeres the taking a break from mafia for the night...
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 01 2010 21:17 GMT
#1895
I'm going to make a brief player summary list. Nothing fancy, please quote to add FACTS not opinions. I'm doing this from memory just to help myself remember exactly what concrete things have happened.

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1. DoctorHelvetica - Mayor. Claims role checks for virus, used on jcarl night1, no results.
2. Hyperbola -
3. Bumatlarge - Claims he can add a person to be a personal mason each day. Ran for mayor
4. Veldril
5. Pandain - Ran for mayor. At odds with Dr. H?
6. Aeres - Claimed BG and captain role that lets hi leave at night with restrictions. Says the BG claim was a lie.
7. deconduo
8. Coagulation
9. annul Bullet Bill / Bodyguard - Mayor candidate, real BG, if there is only 1.
10. infundibulum
11. Amber[LighT]
12. Kenpachi
13. lol1221 RebirthOfLegend
14. Nemesis
15. ghrur
16. KtheZ
17. QuickStriker Angsty Pardoner - Result of +1 kp of mafia? (node oracle)
18. CubEdIn
19. Meapak_Ziphh
20. SiNiquity Self-Conscious Vigilante
21. DCLXVI
22. Divinek
23. Lexpar
24. ShmotZ Mafia Do-Gooder - never used vote, part of fishball circle
25. Orgolove ADD Doctor - modkilled, fishball circle
26. Node - Claims oracle, can see where +1 mafia kp will strike
27. youngminii
28. jcarlsoniv - claims he was never poked by Dr. H
29. BrownBear Vote Rigger
30. Infinitestory
31. Masq L
32. NB
33. Meeple Glasse
34. Misder
35. kingjames01 Self-Conscious Lazy Vigilante
36. Ace
37. Fishball - Is in confirmed (orgolove) circle of 6. Only 3 remain. Claims he can determine alignment of his circle.
38. kitaman27
39. LunarDestiny

24 of 30 Town-aligned roles remaining
8 of 9 Mafia-aligned roles remaining

1 BG
Murraytis spreads to visitors and visitees. 3 People infected.
Radio Loony lets a message be sent by some player.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 02 2010 04:24 GMT
#2066
Ive seen divine around that fucking lurker, feel free to bandwagon him.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 02 2010 22:45 GMT
#2229
On November 02 2010 06:17 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm going to make a brief player summary list. Nothing fancy, please quote to add FACTS not opinions. I'm doing this from memory just to help myself remember exactly what concrete things have happened.

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1. DoctorHelvetica - Mayor. Claims role checks for virus, used on jcarl night1, no results.
2. Hyperbola -
3. Bumatlarge - Claims he can add a person to be a personal mason each day. Ran for mayor
4. Veldril
5. Pandain - Ran for mayor. At odds with Dr. H?
6. Aeres - Claimed BG and captain role that lets hi leave at night with restrictions. Says the BG claim was a lie.
7. deconduo
8. Coagulation
9. (DEAD)annul - Bullet Bill / Bodyguard - Mayor candidate, real BG, if there is only 1.
10. infundibulum
11. Amber[LighT]
12. Kenpachi
13. RebirthOfLegend
14. Nemesis
15. Beneather
16. KtheZ
17. (DEAD)QuickStriker - Angsty Pardoner - Result of +1 kp of mafia? (node oracle) fishball circle
18. CubEdIn - Neo medic, picked blue pill, mafia know who he is? can prot hiself
19. Meapak_Ziphh
20. (DEAD)SiNiquity - Self-Conscious Vigilante
21. DCLXVI
22. Divinek
23. Lexpar
24. (DEAD)ShmotZ - Mafia Do-Gooder - never used vote, part of fishball circle
25. (DEAD)Orgolove - ADD Doctor - modkilled, fishball circle
26. Node - Claims oracle, can see where +1 mafia kp will strike
27. youngminii
28. jcarlsoniv - claims he was never poked by Dr. H
29. (DEAD)BrownBear - Vote Rigger
30. Infinitestory
31. L
32. NB
33. Glasse - claims radio loony poster
34. Misder
35. (DEAD)kingjames01 - Self-Conscious Lazy Vigilante
36. Ace
37. Fishball - Is in confirmed (orgolove) circle of 6. Only 3 remain. Claims he can determine alignment of his circle.
38. kitaman27
39. LunarDestiny

24 of 30 Town-aligned roles remaining
8 of 9 Mafia-aligned roles remaining

1 BG
Murraytis spreads to visitors and visitees. 3 People infected.

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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 02 2010 22:57 GMT
#2233
EBWOP

updated my list

Day 3 is usually a good day for information to start coming forward, so I expect to see lots of things. I think everyone who has claimed a role has done so for decent reasons (except Aeres). If you are keeping your role to yourself and it has long term benefits like DT, you need to try to figure out a way to get your info out. I have PM powers, fishball has some too, and I dont think we are the only ones. I think if you are similar to a plague doc, keep adding on those vaccination to players you think will make alot of night traffic, because with perfect vaccinations, that m-rus might never hit. Unlikely though, only 16 need to be infected, and we'll be lucky if we have 3 immune roles.

Remember your role is never pointless (GLASSE) there is always some reason the mod put your role in the game that you might not be aware of.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 02 2010 23:00 GMT
#2235
And would it be selfish or scummy to ask for that vaccine if it hasnt already been dished out?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 02 2010 23:07 GMT
#2242
On November 03 2010 08:02 Glasse wrote:
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On November 03 2010 07:57 bumatlarge wrote:

Remember your role is never pointless (GLASSE) there is always some reason the mod put your role in the game that you might not be aware of.


I thought about it and didnt see anything useful about it without access to pm.

i would not have thought about anything else anyway so it would have been as useless as it is now


Well it might be useless now, but hmmmm who in this game has claimed they can PM people.... sorry, deja vu, i recall saying this exact statement to someone else.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 02 2010 23:18 GMT
#2263
Divine voted for me as mayor
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 00:16 GMT
#2292
Here are some theories also. Rolebloker targetted Dr.H we assume, right? Dr.H is immune to M-rus. Mafia has a now dead PD. I think mafia is very conservative in their actions for fear of the virus. Which makes me think that town is likely to have a virus spreading role if they found some unprecedented infected.

I suggest a medic considers dr. h as a target, since he is immune and becoming a clearer townie day by day.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 04:09 GMT
#2379
On November 03 2010 11:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Once this game is over I'm gonna find someone to teach me how to do analysis posts because I don't know how to quote everything I want to but I said I'd take a closer look at bumatlarge and I feel like I found some good stuff.
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Ive seen divine around that fucking lurker, feel free to bandwagon him.

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Divine voted for me as mayor

This is before and after the night post.
I know divine outside of TL mafia. I don't think he remembered that he was playing.
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Here are some theories also. Rolebloker targetted Dr.H we assume, right? Dr.H is immune to M-rus. Mafia has a now dead PD. I think mafia is very conservative in their actions for fear of the virus. Which makes me think that town is likely to have a virus spreading role if they found some unprecedented infected.

I suggest a medic considers dr. h as a target, since he is immune and becoming a clearer townie day by day.

Maybe he hasn't been paying attention but Doc is definetly not a clearer townie
Maybe you haven't been paying attention, so explain to me why DocH isn't a clearer townie day by day not confirmed. He is by no means confirmed.

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And would it be selfish or scummy to ask for that vaccine if it hasnt already been dished out?

Role Fishing maybe?
rofl for a plague doctor to use his power on me? Are you even playing this game or reading how things happen in this game
He makes a list of players and their actions but it's not really anything new, it feels like he's scum trying to act like town.

He posts a lot of small, rather irelevent posts that make him look active but are actually pretty substanceless.


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Investigate me all the way, but i suggest if we have a PD to make sure i dont start spreading AIDS everywhere.

My power lets me have a permanent mason relationship with someone the rest of the game. They dont know who else I add each day, and they cannot PM anyone but me. So if im red, i can distort everything to hell. But if I start spreading misinformation, I'd like to think that the people I choose would be smart enough to catch it. And even if M-rus works that it immediately contracts to the person who visits, and then contracts to the person who visits them, I cannot contract it, because I can do it at the start of each day, so people who protect and investigate me are under no danger unless I am plagued. If I am immune, I cannot contract it when I add people, so I feel like a worthy candidate of having a PD vaccinate me.

Is this his power? Why haven't we heard more about it? It's been long enough for him to use it.
Yes, I am the one not paying attention this game.
He makes a couple apologies for being inactive

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I think it's safe to say you are claiming plague doctor, and the person you protect gets notified that you did this? That could be convenient. I do find it possible that mafia could have there own plague doctor, but Im not here to speculate that. If you use your power on me, and I can add you, we can start a circle. To verify it, you would give me one bodyguard who I would relay all of the information I learn. A medic can protect me if they wish, without fearing M-rus. If there is another plague doctor besides Dr.H (if that is what you are) Id suggst picking fishball, who has stated he has means to a circle and a role. That way another medic can choose between myself and fishball to protect. Whats really important is that the medics are safe in this from the M-rus, and if fishball or I die from a lucky shot by mafia, then oh well, fishball or myself die.

Is this plausible Dr. H? If so, then you have my vote.

Here's his reason for voting for our dear mayor.
I can't even believe how much misinformation you are spreading around. Do I really need to explain this stuff? I said if he was claiming plague doctor, we could check him to see, and it would be a much more valuable mayor then the 'sticky' version.
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I did not withdraw my candidacy, I merely stated that fishball's plan was similar to mine, and if alot of the town thought him the better candidate I would not have a problem, but after reading into it and stating my opinions, I still want to be mayor, because

1) I know Im town, and will work in every way possible to make everything clear to everyone on what is happening.
2) I can make bodyguards in my circle! 100% confirmed townies, so if im poisoned or lynched, I can pass on all my info to them. How you will verify them though, might be a tad confusing. I hope to figure that out, and Im open to ideas.
3) I WONT FUCK IT UP. (Fairly sure fishball wont either if he isnt red)

Again, Im fairly certain it should be between fishball and I, because we can make circles happen, and he has stated that he has the power to flesh out the weeds of his. I'd like for him to address connecting circles through me, that would be cool. I need to catch up now, I was working.

Also, if a person is contaminated with M-rus in the night, and they are visited that same night, do the visitors contract it?
This is very important, because if medics protect him, we need to know how the M-rus functions.

Someone help me out, what does he mean by this post? He can make body guards?
ROFL? I'm sorry, I think you need to read the thread again, or at least look who was running for mayor.
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I am not in Fishball's circle. I have an ability to form a town circle of my choosing. I already choose my first person.

I don't have any other role, but I can easily access any circle already made if they are pro town. I don't have anything to hide now, and I guarantee everything I do will have crystal clear reasons as to why. The only thing I will not tell you is who. I believe my method will work slower then fishball, but it will be more effective later on.

It's not all that dangerous if I am not mayor, but it can be really strong if I am mayor. I dont think anyone aside from fishball has hinted that they can do this. It should be between me and him.

Here's where he first talks about his role, a role easily faked by scum (like fishballs but fishball was proved innocent and I think that makes it even more likely the bum is lying).
SHIT I have to go but I'm gonna post this anyway... I'll be back.


It seems you are a bit confused as to the reasons why I would be scummy at all. And Dr. H is in my circle. So is one other that I wont disclose. Everything you have said derives from your inconsistent understanding of what is happening. Someone else post a better analysis if you are really going to be suspicious of me, which I find on the other hand to be completely reasonable since I am the only candidate with one mafia to have voted for me and no confirmed townies.

And if anyone wants to link Dr. H and I, go ahead.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 04:16 GMT
#2381
On November 03 2010 13:14 kitaman27 wrote:
If the mafia indeed only has one plague doctor, then DrH could consider using his sticky ability to identify someone who has a strong chance of already having m-rus and then that person can attempt to use their role to infect other mafia suspects, as a sort of weapon.


Wow get out of my head kitaman
SHHHH
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 07:34 GMT
#2399
On November 03 2010 16:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On November 03 2010 15:59 Coagulation wrote:
On November 03 2010 15:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Yeah, I dunno there is a lot to think about. I was mainly focusing on the idea that the target of the poke could of been bus'd instead of role blocked, or it could of just went through. There is just so many trivial things in this game its hard to rule anything out.

I swear I really enjoy this set up I just really wish that I was here since the beginning. With all the work I have to do it makes it really hard to try to keep up with the thread which gets another 20 pages every time I refresh. I also can't skim read because there is so much important stuff that happened that I am so far behind.

Its very demotivating :/ but I will try anyway. I just read the post by DrH recently where he talks about getting role blocked and I just wanted to bring up some obvious possibilities that he could of easily been bus'd because he made a pretty large jump on page 75ish which from a recent post (maybe 5 pages ago?) he apparently still stuck with.

I haven't really formed much of an opinion on anyone, but for such a good player it seems like a glaring oversight. It really sucks I have to sleep soon though, I actually fine this game to be the most interesting one I have played in in a long time. Reminds me of the olden days before the massive amount of F11 lamer set-ups.



Not being able to PM is fucking shit and makes the game boring/frustrating as hell.


yeah i was mad about it but i can pm

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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 21:59 GMT
#2478
Here's your fucking Dr. H pw.

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YEAH THATS RIGHT, WATCH ME FUCK WITH THIS ONE. I CANT EVEN TYPE WORDS RIGHT ANYMORE.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 22:11 GMT
#2482
Wow im pretty proud of myself, someone doubt my power now, I dare you.

L and Ace havent really been speaking with each other much unless I missed a bit. That open for alot of interpretation and alot of WIFOM. Maybe they are both afraid to open a can of worms on each other, meaning that one might be town or both, or both wary mafia or one wary mafia. Oh look wifom already.

Maybe they are both satisfied that mafia havent targeted them yet. or they wont be targeted.....

You two just have an aura of wifom, dont you? I hope mafia hits dr. h and I hope a medic chances a protect. Cube, dont say for sure what you are going to do, say you are "leaning against it" or something. Or maybe thats your plan. Oh look town favored wifom. JUST HELPIN YOU BRO. For actual content here is what you say and do cube.

RNG.
50% you
25% him
25% her
whambam you get to do what you want. Thats what I followed in the PYP game, did i rng? FUCK NO LOL I JUST PICKED BATMAN. And got it while being on the bottom of the list. I think Ace enjoyoed hosting that game.

Im tryign to think of more to say but im mentally exhausted from working and physically drunk. But it looks like its not enough.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 22:14 GMT
#2485
On November 04 2010 07:12 KtheZ wrote:
Just wondering, whats a stick/oracle/masonmaker?

To add to your points:
I agree that it is highly unlikely for there to be 3+ medics, mainly for the reasons you stated.

Since we have lost 2 plague doctors ( Mafia and townie ones), it would probably to be safe to assume theres a HARD MAXIMUM OF 3 left, and a likely minimum of one that is town aligned.
So now since M-itis has become a HUGE kill factor in this game, I'd like to point out this observation:

All townies should consider if they really NEED to perform their role;

Weigh out the risks and benefits of performing your role. Right now, 3 people out of 28 are infected, so there is a ~11% chance of infection (3/27) if you decide to act. Of course, people like PD, medic, VITAL power roles should act, but what im trying to throw out is to:

ATTEMPT TO CONTAIN THE SPREAD OF M-ITIS RATHER THAN SPREADING IT.

This post is intended to deter people from performing their roles without WEIGHING OUT THE RISKS.


If m-rus was randomly distributed, it would favor town with deaths and information. Fantastic for town. It just matters how clever mafia is with the disease, and how retarded town is with their visits.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 22:28 GMT
#2491
On November 04 2010 07:20 KtheZ wrote:
Wait how would it favor town in deaths and information? The only information we get is who died, their role, and how much the disease has spread. The information gleaned is relatively useless if the people are dead, isnt it?


Scum infect important people, important people are hopefully smart about who they visit. Other blues are smart about who they visit. First night kills obviously indicate where reds are spreading their virus. The infected are all smart townies, so maybe they in turn visit who they feel is scum. I said "IF RANDOM" it just matters how smart mafia is with their picks. It could POTENTIALLY lead to a good outcome for us. I feel hope for this, because I would have killed silent good players while infecting the outspoken less-experienced. I think mafia did the opposite.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 22:39 GMT
#2494
On November 04 2010 07:30 L wrote:
Its probably not randomly distributed, because the vast majority of roles that visit other during the night that have flipped thusfar are protection roles, meaning that the most important players in the game are going to be rapidly M-rused.

I don't think we have 3 Pds left. 1 would be the likely maximum. With 5 total, the game would be largely immunized and M-rus wouldn't kill anyone.


This is true. I do assume townie omnipotence with my optimism.

On November 04 2010 07:34 L wrote:
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L and Ace havent really been speaking with each other much unless I missed a bit.
It wasn't you that missed a bit. It was me. I missed an entire day because I was subbed in.

Dunno what arguing with Ace would do. I tried my best to not have Day 2 focus on something other than the Aeres cause that DrH/Miini/Ace pushed, so take that for what you will.

Dinner time. Later brosefs.


Also true, hope you plan on interacting later. There is a good chance the entire mafia team doesnt have alot of experience between them.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 22:46 GMT
#2495
Aw, I thought maybe we would still have the ADD doctor with a backup role,
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Backup
But since artanis revealed a hidden mechanic about the role, I doubt it. I will continue my endeavors, but for now, I must finish playing Braid.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 23:28 GMT
#2523
Good luck town
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 04 2010 02:45 GMT
#2771
On November 04 2010 11:37 LunarDestiny wrote:
Wait... my statement of Coagulation flicking Booger at a random mafia member which I say is Pandain is not wrong.

Coagulation say he is a retard and can fling booger (we will know after the lynch).
The mod post in the voting thread say booger is flung to a random mafia member. The mafia member "ran out".
Pandain is hit with "green substance" who also "ran out".

So the question is booger can be green right... I don't really pick my booger so I don't know.


I apologize for posting but having vast experience on this subject matter, I found myself incapable of not answering this question. Boogers are composed of dried nasal mucus, and are often a dark yellow color, and occasionally carry a greenish hue, but only the most veteran nosepickers are informed of this. Fun fact, a little less then half of adults have eaten their snot and have enjoyed it. Snot is meant to be consumed regardless, as mucus normally gets swallowed after cilia sends it down the hatch. Feasting on others' boogers is generally shunned upon as the mucus may carry foriegn bacteria harmful to different bodies.
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