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On November 04 2010 09:22 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 09:18 Nemesis wrote:
Oops it seems that my post didn't go through
Should we use double lynch next day phase then? Well here's how i see it : If we use double lynch every days from now on we will use it on day 4-5-6. Game could be over by then, or very close to it. Taking the chance of lynching 2 suspicious players can harm the town, but it can also be very helpful. < this is why we have to vote. I personally think using all our tools is a good idea.
I totally agree with this. Hits the nail right on the head.
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kitaman we can BOTH DO PAGE 5 :D
but with all seriousness, how do I know which page is which O.o
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On November 04 2010 09:41 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 09:37 KtheZ wrote:
kitaman we can BOTH DO PAGE 5 :D
but with all seriousness, how do I know which page is which O.o lol whoops I missed that, I'll do 6 then. The page is based on the link DrH posted. There are like 100 posts per page
OH i get it now
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Just finished looking at page 5. This included most of the shitstorm between Dr.H and pandain, as well as a TON OF NESTED QUOTES WITH PANDAIN IN IT.
What I CAN conclude is that youngminii was at odds with pandain. He noticed the Dr.H - pandain feud, and attacked pandain ( and Dr.H, but to a lesser extent).
Dinner time, bbl.
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Pandain, anyone can scream unconfirmable role if they decide to roleclaim.
Why hasnt Dr.H?
And why are you the FIRST PERSON in the game to claim this?
Also, at least giving details on the CONDITIONS that need to be achieved so you can confirm your role would be nice, instead of this vague stuff we keep getting.
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On November 04 2010 10:28 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 09:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nemesis voted for him immediately iirc. Deconduo also voted for Pandain. Just wondering what is iirc?
its been answered a few times in the forum; If I Recall Correctly
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On November 04 2010 10:34 Coagulation wrote:
think about the name that came back "mafia retard"
dont waste your lynch on me.
At least give an indication of what your power is; It is completely necessary right now since DT found you red. I mean srsly? "Mafia retard" is a looong stretch from "Extremely powerful blue townie who decided to risk being miller in exchange for his power"
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On November 04 2010 10:32 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 10:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
how are they different, he's calling into question my ability to confirm and using it as an excuse to make me look bad as a candidate overall 1.He was saying this before you had failed to poke someone, I only questioned you after failed to confirm yourself. Actually, in fact, he would be pro towards you, since he would defend the fact you had been unable to confirm. I was questioning the fact whether you could do this at all, Divinek was opposing you because he felt your role might not be actually useful in those scenarios. Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 10:29 youngminii wrote:
"Just stop, I hate reading long posts. Analytical posts are crap. I'm not going to debate your arguments but they're crap."
OR
"Just stop, you're posting crap. Repetitive posts are crap. I'm not going to debate your 600 posts of the same flawed arguments against DrH but they're crap." You didn't even address one thing. Not one thing. And honestly, I spent time into those. I don't like people saying its crud. Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 10:30 KtheZ wrote:
Pandain, anyone can scream unconfirmable role if they decide to roleclaim.
Why hasnt Dr.H?
And why are you the FIRST PERSON in the game to claim this?
Also, at least giving details on the CONDITIONS that need to be achieved so you can confirm your role would be nice, instead of this vague stuff we keep getting. Honestly I'm a bit confused about what you're saying here. Can you clarify?
Basically, I'm bothered that you are claiming to have an "unconfirmable role" when noone else in the game has done this for an extended period of time.
Dr. H said this in the beginning (well, maybe), but nonetheless, we have a solid basis of what his role is.
Considering that you were being extremely anal over how Dr.H was not confirming his role, I find your stalling extremely scum-like.
Anyone is able to say that they have an unconfirmable role. What I am asking for is the details of the conditions you require to confirm your role. You said earlier that you had a way to confirm your role, but it has not occured yet. It would probably be best for town if we knew what this was, so we could confirm you as whoever you are.
There isn't a reason to hold this back; The simple details of WHAT YOU NEED TO CONFIRM YOUR ROLE is not enough to paint a target on you; I would say people like the ADD DT, Dr.H, etc are prime targets for a hit.
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well god damn, ninjaed after i wrote that small paragraph
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Since we have a claimed ADD detective, I find it HIGHLY unlikely there is ANOTHER TOWN ALIGNED RANDOM DETECTIVE.
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The main purpose of a DT check is to check ALIGNMENT. Other tidbits are just useful to know.
Having two ALIGNMENT DTs in a game doesnt make sense. For example, in haunted mafia(which i failed epically and will make up for), there were 2 dts for 60 people. Now, considering that we have ~ 30-40 people, I find it Extremely unlikely that town has TWO RANDOM ALIGNMENT CHECKERS. For all we know, you could be scum; you never claimed alignment (But you'll obviously claim town). And for all we know you could be lying about your role, your role actions, or anything you want.
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On November 04 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 10:49 youngminii wrote:
Wasn't Pandain's main 600 post argument against DrH the fact that he 'lied' and he couldn't confirm himself 100% because he got roleblocked?
Now it's day 3 and Pandain can't confirm himself which is a bigger lie than DrH's? Does this not strike you as fucking stupid at all Pandain? Couldn't you have come up with a better argument/roleclaim? First of all I still don't see how if I find mafia that doesn't confirm me. Now obviously at most I could do if mafia would be to claim a townie was mafia, and then they get lynched. But then next day, I get lynched. That is definitely not beneficial for mafia. @KtheZ, we're actually different roles, his is in fact even better than mine :/
The main purpose of a DT check is to check ALIGNMENT. Other tidbits are just useful to know.
Having two ALIGNMENT DTs in a game doesnt make sense. For example, in haunted mafia(which i failed epically and will make up for), there were 2 dts for 60 people. Now, considering that we have ~ 30-40 people, I find it Extremely unlikely that town has TWO RANDOM ALIGNMENT CHECKERS. For all we know, you could be scum; you never claimed alignment (But you'll obviously claim town). And for all we know you could be lying about your role, your role actions, or anything you want.
EBWODP
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On November 04 2010 10:56 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 10:53 youngminii wrote:On November 04 2010 10:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i feel uncomfortable
something about his role feels really plausible to me, but at the same time its very easy to fake and much safer to fake than mine
i suggest we kill pandain/someone unconnected or opposed to pandain
if pandain turns up blue and the other turns up red that could be really good for us in the end. No, we're killing Pandain. He's posting scummily (as usual though) and there is no reason for Artanis/LSB to make two roles that literally overlap yet have one *slightly* better than the other. If Pandain is blue then FoS infinitestory. Wait, what the fuck? Doctor & Plague Doctor literally overlap yet PD is *slightly* better >___>
take into consideration that in your case, the mafia had a PD.
And pandain is most likely lying about his role/role action
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On November 04 2010 10:59 Pandain wrote:If I die, FoS on KtheZ for pushing me so hard with illogical reasons. At least Dr. H has had decent ones.... Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 10:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if a vig hits pandain we might have better information for our double lynch :O
What illogical reasons? I simply ask why it took you so long to roleclaim and why your roleclaim clearly overlaps with a previously claimed role.
and what does FoS mean :/
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On November 04 2010 11:02 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 11:01 KtheZ wrote:On November 04 2010 10:59 Pandain wrote:If I die, FoS on KtheZ for pushing me so hard with illogical reasons. At least Dr. H has had decent ones.... On November 04 2010 10:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if a vig hits pandain we might have better information for our double lynch :O What illogical reasons? I simply ask why it took you so long to roleclaim and why your roleclaim clearly overlaps with a previously claimed role. and what does FoS mean :/ Because roleclaiming was plainly idiotic. It's not like I'm going to claim "Hey mafia, I have a role where I can find out people's alignments!" Also infinite has a good point with the doctor/plague doctor(town does have both fyi) FoS=finger of suspicion.
Note that mafia also had their own plague doctor, so there may be role-checkers for the mafia also.
So the standings right now is that you claim to be Garbage collector, and your results have turned up OBVIOUSLY unconfirmable results (who in their right mind would say "I'm not safe omg")
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On November 04 2010 11:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 11:05 KtheZ wrote:On November 04 2010 11:02 Pandain wrote:On November 04 2010 11:01 KtheZ wrote:On November 04 2010 10:59 Pandain wrote:If I die, FoS on KtheZ for pushing me so hard with illogical reasons. At least Dr. H has had decent ones.... On November 04 2010 10:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if a vig hits pandain we might have better information for our double lynch :O What illogical reasons? I simply ask why it took you so long to roleclaim and why your roleclaim clearly overlaps with a previously claimed role. and what does FoS mean :/ Because roleclaiming was plainly idiotic. It's not like I'm going to claim "Hey mafia, I have a role where I can find out people's alignments!" Also infinite has a good point with the doctor/plague doctor(town does have both fyi) FoS=finger of suspicion. Note that mafia also had their own plague doctor, so there may be role-checkers for the mafia also. So the standings right now is that you claim to be Garbage collector, and your results have turned up OBVIOUSLY unconfirmable results (who in their right mind would say "I'm not safe omg") mafia doesnt need an alignment checker since mafia know everybodies alignment
I noticed, which is why I think hes lying about his role/role action
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On November 04 2010 11:10 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 11:09 KtheZ wrote:On November 04 2010 11:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 04 2010 11:05 KtheZ wrote:On November 04 2010 11:02 Pandain wrote:On November 04 2010 11:01 KtheZ wrote:On November 04 2010 10:59 Pandain wrote:If I die, FoS on KtheZ for pushing me so hard with illogical reasons. At least Dr. H has had decent ones.... On November 04 2010 10:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if a vig hits pandain we might have better information for our double lynch :O What illogical reasons? I simply ask why it took you so long to roleclaim and why your roleclaim clearly overlaps with a previously claimed role. and what does FoS mean :/ Because roleclaiming was plainly idiotic. It's not like I'm going to claim "Hey mafia, I have a role where I can find out people's alignments!" Also infinite has a good point with the doctor/plague doctor(town does have both fyi) FoS=finger of suspicion. Note that mafia also had their own plague doctor, so there may be role-checkers for the mafia also. So the standings right now is that you claim to be Garbage collector, and your results have turned up OBVIOUSLY unconfirmable results (who in their right mind would say "I'm not safe omg") mafia doesnt need an alignment checker since mafia know everybodies alignment I noticed, which is why I think hes lying about his role/role action So you think i'm mafia, because I claimed a role which you think mafia wouldn't have. Circular reasoning ftw.
Not necessarily. Let me correct myself.
I think you have a chance of being mafia because you claim an undoubtedly pro-town role, but we are still unable to confirm it in any way.
However, I am getting second thoughts, congrats.
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On November 04 2010 12:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 12:10 Ace wrote:On November 04 2010 11:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I say we lynch Ace and KtheZ if pandain flips blue. If he flips red we lynch Nemesis and Deconduo.
that's why we should use a vig hit IMO Excuse me? Explain sir. I'm not impressed with your "scumhunting" in this game, you're basically picking the weakest targets. I feel like if mafia were going to hit any experienced player it would be you first and you didn't roleclaim to bumatlarge even though he was probably the surest blue in the game and the only one you could PM with (to our knowledge) If you're mafia you'd also be the ideal person to save with a bus. It comes down to the lynch turnout but if pandain turns blue I don't have a better target besides perhaps infinitestory.
If you give him such an explanation, give me one too!
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On November 04 2010 12:19 LunarDestiny wrote:
edit!!!
instant mod kill... I wish.
That sure would simplify things greatly.
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